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Strong initial lineup and fantastic sculpts across the board. Only caveat being that infantry looks like it's only 5 pose sprues again.

Looks like I'll be getting plastic GW vehicles to go with my Wargames Atlantic militia.

You guys think there's any chance we see the Malcador with a nest of heavy bolters up top eventually too?

 Snrub wrote:
I reckon we'll see first wave kits for
-Command Section (5 Man)
-Rifle Section (20 Man)
-Veletaris Storm upgrade kit (20 Volkite Chargers/Storm Axes)
-Veletaris Vanguard upgrade kit (20 Rotor Cannons/Heavy Flamers)
-Dracosan or Aurox
-Leman Russ Strike

Gonna quietly blow a tune on my own trumpet here. 5 out of 6 ain't bad! (Even if they were all 100% givens).

New Sentinal comes as no shock, I suppose. It's appearance being foretold by LI.
Surprised we got all flavours of Russ though right from the start. I thought they'd drag that out for sure.
Malcador is a pleasant surprise too!


I know a couple of local blokes who are going to be rabidly frothing at the mouth over this. Like, a months worth of paychecks frothing at the mouth. If all the local stores run out of stock, I know who'll have it.

lord_blackfang wrote:That's that random set of Mk4 in there

Without trying to sound to petulant, it's not even proper MkIV though, unfortunately. The elbows are right, but it has no extended vambrace.

Yea I'm gonna guess the Mk4 vambrace has been squatted, as it prevents compatibility with weapon upgrade sprues.

Quite pleasantly surprised with the initial wave of plastic Solar Auxilia!

New infantry looks a bit chunkier and less detailed, some of the changes are not to my liking, simplified bayonets instead of the sword ones the resin models have and the blocky power cell sticking out of their rifles, but if the command squad model with lasgun is anything to go by, this may be an optional piece. Same with the Veletarii, a bit chunkier than the originals, not a fan of how the power cell for the charger sticks out, but they look like they mean business! The command section makes me hopeful for the future HQ command squad and Legate commander sets, already quite surprised to see the troop master sporting a serpenta, so a future Legate Commander sprue is bound to be brimming with the good stuff for conversions.

But oh my days, both a plastic Dracosan and Malcador, with the Demolisher cannon included, take that! Also loving that the Solar Auxilia vehicle upgrade sprue has everything, including an awesomely clunky looking flare shield generator and the option for a tank commander with an assortment of nicely weird devices.

And a redesigned Leman Russ! Damn it, already drowning in Russ tanks, but one or two, just for this, wouldn't hurt right?

The heavy Sentinel still needs to grow on me, but it can take volkite, always good right?

Hopefully I can secure one of each come the day of preorder.

Here's hoping for a plastic Macharius now as well, which we can hope is fairly probable in the future.

Also, SA versions of the baneblade? Consider LI got them, must be in with a shot.

Not surprised to see the new Sentinel from LI get a 28mm version, little bit of history repeats.

Liking the plastic "trimmed" Russ and Malcadors, finally a nice fit on these parts we hope.
As for the Auxilia troops, as I own the resins.. these lost a ton of detail in GW's pursuit. A list of details, gone.
- Chain driven geared Rebreather [now banded metal]
- Sealing Bolts on helmets, shin to thighs, ect
- I'm not typing anymore here.


Why not do plastic Imperial Army in the RT style or Militia? The Auxilia command elements could fit in with an existing resin force.

I'm actually glad GW showed some restraint in blinging out Auxilia.

The real question though, will gw also not fail in the pricing department?

Not Online!!! wrote:
The real question though, will gw also not fail in the pricing department?

Like Marines I expect these to be 5$ cheaper than 40k equivalents, which will make an Aux army still absurdly expensive.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:
The real question though, will gw also not fail in the pricing department?

Like Marines I expect these to be 5$ cheaper than 40k equivalents, which will make an Aux army still absurdly expensive.

Well, then they will fail. They could compensate that a bit with squadrons for militia malcadors and dracosans as an option aswell.

Maybee.

 BrookM wrote:
And a redesigned Leman Russ! Damn it, already drowning in Russ tanks, but one or two, just for this, wouldn't hurt right?

I'm thinking of picking up one or two for Tank Commanders in 40k, myself.

 Dysartes wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
And a redesigned Leman Russ! Damn it, already drowning in Russ tanks, but one or two, just for this, wouldn't hurt right?

I'm thinking of picking up one or two for Tank Commanders in 40k, myself.

They would make for the perfect relic vehicles for sure.




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Speaking of the upcoming Auxilia Vanquisher, kinda curious to see if it will keep its coaxial autocannon, as the model has either a heavy stubber, or a really weedy autocannon installed in the side mount.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Optimist. I expect that the new plastic kits will be about a nickel less than resin.

Why? Every other HH kit that has been translated has taken a dive in cost, even compared to their final costs before the swap.

 Sotahullu wrote:
Well yes and no. More of an case getting their own book with more expanded options and some things fixed.

Yeah that's not going to happen, just ain't how HH works and never has been both in terms of individual army books and "rules issues" being addressed.

Not Online!!! wrote:
That is debatable, because it currently get's held up by a single entry. Which is the same that holds up militia lists aswell....

imo the malcador could lose some points.

Agree to disagree on the status of Solar Aux and Militia. I think both lists are good, they just take a bit more effort to play compared to the Legion list. Militia more-so but then I find most people aren't taking the list in the way it really should be played i.e Commit To The Bit.

 Gert wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:
That is debatable, because it currently get's held up by a single entry. Which is the same that holds up militia lists aswell....

imo the malcador could lose some points.

Agree to disagree on the status of Solar Aux and Militia. I think both lists are good, they just take a bit more effort to play compared to the Legion list. Militia more-so but then I find most people aren't taking the list in the way it really should be played i.e Commit To The Bit.

I am sorry but in a competitive inclined match everything that sees some land on the militia side is vanquisher leman russ spam, whilest solar aux is basically the worse off.

If you mean that by commiting then yes sure. But grenadier bit, don't work. Horde infantry (even with 3rd parties) too expensive NVM that i doubt a lot of people have that ammount of infantry. Artillery? Don't work for a whole slew of reasons (stingy on breaching / rending, too small templates). Ogryn spam, don't really work either.

The bit being Ogryn, Cavalry or Leman Russ? Ideally a faction would not require players to spam thousands of points of a single good unit that you have to divine out of dozens of trap options.

Hopefully that won't be a limited box, because the outlay for 6 of them at once might bankrupt me

 endlesswaltz123 wrote:
Here's hoping for a plastic Macharius now as well, which we can hope is fairly probable in the future.

Also, SA versions of the baneblade? Consider LI got them, must be in with a shot.

Errr... I dunno how to tell you this but there won't be a macharius, not in HH anyway. The reason why is in the name in relation to the timeline.

Again, agree to disagree NotOnline.


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chaos0xomega wrote:
Hopefully that won't be a limited box, because the outlay for 6 of them at once might bankrupt me

It's a limited box.

The Macharius tank has an entry in the Legends document, to easily represent a myriad of tanks used by both sides during the conflict. I wouldn't count on the Macharius making a comeback, the Rogal Dorn might be the closest thing we'll get to a plastic Macharius-expy.

Would love to see a plastic Auxilia Baneblade (dare we say it?) Stormhammer though, but I fear those will be (remain) hybrid resin kits.

Didn't we see a HH Baneblade in some random post sometime around the LI announcement?

Thought that was for LI though?

Ah it might be LI Baneblade box art. Seems it's normal the detail on box art is finer than on the models? Drilled barrels and such.

edit.

Ninja'd by the sneaky edit!

But looking at the other vehicle box sets, they all use the 28mm models on the cover, so the Baneblades shown here are most certainly a cheeky preview of what's to come!

Bit odd though, seeing as the Baneblade has been shuffled off to Legends territory. 🤔

Such lovely models.

Just when I thought selling off a load of Praetorians would see a big increase in my savings and available storage space.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Surprised they didn't show off the Axeman option for the unit. Studio not done painting a squad?

I would bet that axes are a separate kit as they likely couldn't find room on the sprue.

Not sure if I'd prefer an extra sprue like the Marine special and heavy weapons or an entirely separate kit that could have different poses (but won't).

 Robert Facepalmer wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Surprised they didn't show off the Axeman option for the unit. Studio not done painting a squad?

I would bet that axes are a separate kit as they likely couldn't find room on the sprue.

Not sure if I'd prefer an extra sprue like the Marine special and heavy weapons or an entirely separate kit that could have different poses (but won't).

They said in like two places that axemen are a build option tho.

 Gert wrote:
Again, agree to disagree NotOnline.


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chaos0xomega wrote:
Hopefully that won't be a limited box, because the outlay for 6 of them at once might bankrupt me

It's a limited box.

Did they confirm or are we assuming? Because we thought that about the age of Darkness box, and the bretonnia and Tomb Kings boxes...

chaos0xomega wrote:

 Gert wrote:
Again, agree to disagree NotOnline.


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chaos0xomega wrote:
Hopefully that won't be a limited box, because the outlay for 6 of them at once might bankrupt me

It's a limited box.

Did they confirm or are we assuming? Because we thought that about the age of Darkness box, and the bretonnia and Tomb Kings boxes...

It’s the same format as the Legiones Astartes Battlegroup which was limited. Still assuming but based on a recent similar example.

"Same format" doesn't mean much anymore in my eyes

Apparently, someone asked on the reveal stream. Saw it this morning on social media but that was about 12 hours ago pre-work and now my brain is mushy peas.

From Twitter, spoilered for size, tanks: https://twitter.com/warhammer/status/1748299476228247949



Infantry and Sentinel: https://twitter.com/warhammer/status/1748390426220908840