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 Kanluwen wrote:
 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Dudeface wrote:
Usual "the local gw manager said" preorders are the end of Jan, low to no credibility but why not throw it out there.


We need to get through Slaves to Darkness wide release and Guard wide release first.

I mean, there's always the possibility of an army set as the start of preorders...


Normally sure, but wasn't something said about WE not getting an army box?
   
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 MajorWesJanson wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Dudeface wrote:
Usual "the local gw manager said" preorders are the end of Jan, low to no credibility but why not throw it out there.


We need to get through Slaves to Darkness wide release and Guard wide release first.

I mean, there's always the possibility of an army set as the start of preorders...


Normally sure, but wasn't something said about WE not getting an army box?

One of the guys leaking rules details says that:
  • WE stuff is all getting released at once, without any army box
  • The combat patrol is a juggerlord, 10 berzerkers, 20 jakhals
  • Full WarCom marketing starts late in January, with release in Feb
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    Here is the updated Pastebin that should have everything compiled: https://pastebin.com/w512d6Lj

    8bound are looking a lot tastier now with the 6 base, 7 on the charge attacks. They'll mulch quite a few things, though berzerkers in Rhinos seems great for racking up Bloodtithe.




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     Kanluwen wrote:
     MajorWesJanson wrote:
    Dudeface wrote:
    Usual "the local gw manager said" preorders are the end of Jan, low to no credibility but why not throw it out there.


    We need to get through Slaves to Darkness wide release and Guard wide release first.

    I mean, there's always the possibility of an army set as the start of preorders...


    Don't think so. Would have been revealed when the rest of the WE stuff was. They wouldn't save this for a last minute drop.

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    Gathering the Informations.

    Cadia Stands box was revealed on October 8th, preorder was on November 19th.

    Don't forget that we knew the contents in advance as well, since it's literally the Combat Patrol bundled with the codex, but didn't really have any news(at least that's immediately springing to my brain dealing with time running endlessly together) of an army set.

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    Are they getting the better Stattersoul Lscannons on their Preds/Landraiders?

    And when are Death Guard and Ksons getting them!
       
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     Kanluwen wrote:
    Cadia Stands box was revealed on October 8th, preorder was on November 19th.

    Don't forget that we knew the contents in advance as well, since it's literally the Combat Patrol bundled with the codex, but didn't really have any news(at least that's immediately springing to my brain dealing with time running endlessly together) of an army set.


    Right, this is the point I am making. The army set was reveled with some of the models on Warhammer day, before even all the models from the full release were. It wasn't revealed some months after the entire content of the army had been revealed. If WE had an army set coming it would have been revealed by now.

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    Gathering the Informations.

     Sasori wrote:
     Kanluwen wrote:
    Cadia Stands box was revealed on October 8th, preorder was on November 19th.

    Don't forget that we knew the contents in advance as well, since it's literally the Combat Patrol bundled with the codex, but didn't really have any news(at least that's immediately springing to my brain dealing with time running endlessly together) of an army set.


    Right, this is the point I am making. The army set was reveled with some of the models on Warhammer day, before even all the models from the full release were. It wasn't revealed some months after the entire content of the army had been revealed. If WE had an army set coming it would have been revealed by now.

    Right, and the point I am making is that the army set reveal happened on their timetable.

    The only firm thing they have said about World Eaters models and releases is this, from the Narrative Grand Finale or whatever the hell it was called:
    We’ll have more on these new miniatures as we get closer to their release – which is in early 2023.


    And it's worth pointing out that those reveals were after a leak namedropping everything specifically.
       
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     Kanluwen wrote:
     Sasori wrote:
     Kanluwen wrote:
    Cadia Stands box was revealed on October 8th, preorder was on November 19th.

    Don't forget that we knew the contents in advance as well, since it's literally the Combat Patrol bundled with the codex, but didn't really have any news(at least that's immediately springing to my brain dealing with time running endlessly together) of an army set.


    Right, this is the point I am making. The army set was reveled with some of the models on Warhammer day, before even all the models from the full release were. It wasn't revealed some months after the entire content of the army had been revealed. If WE had an army set coming it would have been revealed by now.

    Right, and the point I am making is that the army set reveal happened on their timetable.

    The only firm thing they have said about World Eaters models and releases is this, from the Narrative Grand Finale or whatever the hell it was called:
    We’ll have more on these new miniatures as we get closer to their release – which is in early 2023.


    And it's worth pointing out that those reveals were after a leak namedropping everything specifically.


    That same leak saying there isn't an army box? Not really sure what your point is here but it feels like you're agreeing?
       
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    Gathering the Informations.

    We didn't have leaks about a Guard army set either, just combat patrol.
       
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     xttz wrote:
     choppinboard wrote:
    I don't disagree with you regarding Jakhals but they just seem... confused. Expensive for a backfield objective holder, slow(?) and weak(?) for a spearhead unit. Blades of Khorne could whip their chaff waaaay up the board (not sure anymore but they could when I played them years ago). There's no strat (that we know of) to make them go faster so it has to be on the datasheet if it's anywhere. There's been no rumors about them going faster than regular cultists. Maybe the blood they carry will "stim" them to move faster but more likely it just makes them fight harder.


    Honestly I'm not certain how they'll play yet, but I'm expecting to field them in a few games because:
  • Jakhals seem like they'd do some work once a few blood tithes have been unlocked
  • One of the playtesters said in Discord that they're good units, certainly the best cultists
  • There's 20 in the combat patrol lmao

  • I might try a gimmick tactic where the Jakhals start on the board next to a Rhino. On turn 1 they kill D3 of their own models for +1 strength, allowing them to board the Rhino and leave space for Kharn or a MoE to join in. Meanwhile my berzerkers just hotfoot it because they get the free D6" move and benefit from the juggerlord +2" aura.

    Edit: I'm also pretty sure that Jakhals will be one of those troop units whose usefulness will be mainly decided by the faction secondaries available, rather than what's on the datasheet.
    I didn't know they were doing work in the playtesting. With that in mind I may field 20 Jakhals, 1x10 zerk unit, 4x5 zerk units. From their chainblades and buffing potential, even a few Jakhals should be able to punch above their weight class, so having a unit of 20 move up the board should be a scary prospect.
       
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    Speaking of Berzerker units: do we think we can take two Khornate Eviserators per five units or one per five? Plasma pistols are one per five, so it wouldn't be out of pocket for it to be two per five.
       
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    It'll 100% be 1 per 5
       
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     choppinboard wrote:
    Speaking of Berzerker units: do we think we can take two Khornate Eviserators per five units or one per five? Plasma pistols are one per five, so it wouldn't be out of pocket for it to be two per five.


    Depends on what's in the kit really.

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    Lord Invocatus is looking pretty solid, if this datasheet is real:

    Spoiler:
       
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     ArcaneHorror wrote:
    Lord Invocatus is looking pretty solid, if this datasheet is real:

    Spoiler:


    -3 AP, 2 Damage weapon that ignores Invulns. Combine with the rumoured removal of AoC and this chap will just delete SM in bulk!


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    I kind of find it odd that GW is making cavalry HQs more common these days. Space wolves, Orks, Khorn, daemons, Imperial Guard.

    I'm half expecting Exodite HQs for Eldar when the get back to them.
       
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    Calvary is cool. Very fitting for the sci-fantasy setting of 40k to have the boss riding some sort of giant critter. And I’m game for elves on dinos if their time gets here.

    I’m more concerned with the ignores invuln proliferation. It’s a little more palatable on a special character, but still...

    One of these days I’ll start collecting skulls, but too many other projects right now.

       
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     Nevelon wrote:
    Calvary is cool.

    ...what's so cool about the spot outside Jerusalem when Jesus was said to be crucified?

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     Kanluwen wrote:
    This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.

    Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...

    tneva82 wrote:
    You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
    - No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... 
       
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     Dysartes wrote:
     Nevelon wrote:
    Calvary is cool.

    ...what's so cool about the spot outside Jerusalem when Jesus was said to be crucified?


    Look, I’m lucky I’ve got it together enough to string words together. Spelling is right out, and autocorrect/spellcheckers will only go so far.

    While I’m sure there are situations where the incorrect word choice might cause confusion, I doubt this is one of them. Unless someone is reading this through a translator site, and it’s not smart enough to catch the context error.

    And this is a World Eater thread. I’m sure a little crucifixion would fit in just fine...

       
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     Nevelon wrote:


    And this is a World Eater thread. I’m sure a little crucifixion would fit in just fine...


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     legionaires wrote:
     Nevelon wrote:


    And this is a World Eater thread. I’m sure a little crucifixion would fit in just fine...


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     cuda1179 wrote:
    I kind of find it odd that GW is making cavalry HQs more common these days. Space wolves, Orks, Khorn, daemons, Imperial Guard.
    If only this World Eater HQ had any level of synergy with the army he's leading.

    Y'know, like access to bikes or units of Berzerkers on Juggers.

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     H.B.M.C. wrote:
     cuda1179 wrote:
    I kind of find it odd that GW is making cavalry HQs more common these days. Space wolves, Orks, Khorn, daemons, Imperial Guard.
    If only this World Eater HQ had any level of synergy with the army he's leading.

    Y'know, like access to bikes or units of Berzerkers on Juggers.


    I totally agree. Units of berserkers on juggernauts would be amazing, especially if they teamed up with berserker bikers. Might only have 35 models in a 2000 point list, but I'd do it.
       
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    30 pages of leaks is to much to dig through.

    Are there any leaks of the new berserker profile and weapons?

       
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     H.B.M.C. wrote:
     cuda1179 wrote:
    I kind of find it odd that GW is making cavalry HQs more common these days. Space wolves, Orks, Khorn, daemons, Imperial Guard.
    If only this World Eater HQ had any level of synergy with the army he's leading.

    Y'know, like access to bikes or units of Berzerkers on Juggers.



    He can roll out with a pack of Flesh hounds or Mauler fiends like a real boss. Transports would also give him LOS so back him with some Rhinos packed with zerkers.
       
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    Why has he the keyword fly??

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     skeleton wrote:
    Why has he the keyword fly??


    Because Chaos magic.

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     skeleton wrote:
    Why has he the keyword fly??


    So that you can go 'Yppiayeeeeeh.... Yppiayoooooh... Ghoooost Riders in... the skyyyyy' of course.

    He has a magic flying Juggernaut, that's all the explanation that there is for it really.
       
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     skeleton wrote:
    Why has he the keyword fly??

    To really anger the people that have a CSM codex where the only mobile HQ is a Black Legion character.
       
     
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