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 skeleton wrote:
Why has he the keyword fly??

He rides through the sky on daemonic fire, according to his fluff. Apparently the generic juggerlord doesn't get Fly though.

 Nightlord1987 wrote:

He can roll out with a pack of Flesh hounds or Mauler fiends like a real boss. Transports would also give him LOS so back him with some Rhinos packed with zerkers.

Seems like he's going to fit best with units of (non-exalted) eightbound, which have CORE. That lets them move 11" to easily keep up with him and reliably pull off first turn charges.

Berzerkers in dreadclaws can do that too thanks to their 3D6 charge ability. Lots of early pressure from WE.

 skeleton wrote:
Why has he the keyword fly??

Gravity is on his trophy rack.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/01/13/who-looks-angrier-this-world-eaters-lord-or-his-juggernaut/

This box epitomises the massed frontal assaults the World Eaters love so much, packing in a whopping 20 Khorne Berserkers alongside 10 Jakhals – the only mortal cultists who could possibly keep up with their betters’ kill count – all led by a World Eaters Lord on Juggernaut. 

While Chaos Space Marines are limited to a single Chaos Lord per Detachment, the World Eaters aren’t subject to such petty jealousy. They can field as many beast-bound Lords as their HQ slots allow, meaning you can muster the complete contents of two Combat Patrols – all without needing to spend any Command points on the new Heroic Support Stratagem. 

Combat Patrol: World Eaters will be coming to pre-orders in just a few weeks...

What a boring AF box.

Eh. It’s all new models. Surprised they didn’t cram in kharn or the master of executions as the hq option

 GaroRobe wrote:
Eh. It’s all new models. Surprised they didn’t cram in kharn or the master of executions as the hq option

Yeah sure, but i come from a time where the CSM starter box had:

Lord in terminator armor, 5 possessed, 8 khorneberzerkers, 15 CSM and a rhino.


This by comparison is just "boring" as an army. but that is also an issue with the WE codex being probably the biggest new flanderisation of a faction there ever was, even more so than Wolf wolf wolf marines.

Not Online!!! wrote:
What a boring AF box.

One of the best boxes so far, to be honest. Its actually the core of the army with a reasonably sane proportion of minions.

Not Online!!! wrote:

 GaroRobe wrote:
Eh. It’s all new models. Surprised they didn’t cram in kharn or the master of executions as the hq option

Yeah sure, but i come from a time where the CSM starter box had:

Lord in terminator armor, 5 possessed, 8 khorneberzerkers, 15 CSM and a rhino.

That was an army starter box, though. And higher priced, even in 1990s money.

Not Online!!! wrote:
What a boring AF box.

Well, it's perfect for me starting a Khorne army, so boring in a berzerker frothing rage induced trance sort of way...okay.

 GaroRobe wrote:
Eh. It’s all new models. Surprised they didn’t cram in kharn or the master of executions as the hq option

Yeah I was very much expecting Kharn and/or 20 Jakhals.

Instead we get around 700pts of models we'll actually use, and can be doubled up to make a viable army fairly cheaply.

 Theophony wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:
What a boring AF box.

Well, it's perfect for me starting a Khorne army, so boring in a berzerker frothing rage induced trance sort of way...okay.

TBF, the box is "good" insofar as it is indeed the core of the faction.
The problem is more that WE have been probably the most uninspired cultlegion to get rules there is right now. hence the box beeing good and core to the faction automatically is boring.

Not Online!!! wrote:

 GaroRobe wrote:
Eh. It’s all new models. Surprised they didn’t cram in kharn or the master of executions as the hq option

Yeah sure, but i come from a time where the CSM starter box had:

Lord in terminator armor, 5 possessed, 8 khorneberzerkers, 15 CSM and a rhino.


This by comparison is just "boring" as an army. but that is also an issue with the WE codex being probably the biggest new flanderisation of a faction there ever was, even more so than Wolf wolf wolf marines.

Yeah. Gutted. Reduced to berserkers, berserkier berserkers, berserkier berserkers +1 and berserk cultists. Woop. Really don't know if I'll bother with my WE any more.

Crispy78 wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:

 GaroRobe wrote:
Eh. It’s all new models. Surprised they didn’t cram in kharn or the master of executions as the hq option

Yeah sure, but i come from a time where the CSM starter box had:

Lord in terminator armor, 5 possessed, 8 khorneberzerkers, 15 CSM and a rhino.


This by comparison is just "boring" as an army. but that is also an issue with the WE codex being probably the biggest new flanderisation of a faction there ever was, even more so than Wolf wolf wolf marines.

Yeah. Gutted. Reduced to berserkers, berserkier berserkers, berserkier berserkers +1 and berserk cultists. Woop. Really don't know if I'll bother with my WE any more.

Could be worse, you could be hearing fetch jokes...or find your army in the "legends" rules list...


It's just a damn shame that we got more melee cultists, when we could've gotten blood pact and blooded type units in it instead. You know actually disciplined forces, common for khorne before GW went hurr durr skulls. Especially as a counterpoint to the berzerkier astartes?
Havocs with AC and plasma cannons. As was already the case in the past.
Regular bolter marines (with full equipment).
Working tanks.

There would've been many ways this would've been handled better than what it is right now, but instead we get this... "codex".... alas it seems we are stuck with this thing.

Not Online!!! wrote:

Crispy78 wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:

 GaroRobe wrote:
Eh. It’s all new models. Surprised they didn’t cram in kharn or the master of executions as the hq option

Yeah sure, but i come from a time where the CSM starter box had:

Lord in terminator armor, 5 possessed, 8 khorneberzerkers, 15 CSM and a rhino.


This by comparison is just "boring" as an army. but that is also an issue with the WE codex being probably the biggest new flanderisation of a faction there ever was, even more so than Wolf wolf wolf marines.

Yeah. Gutted. Reduced to berserkers, berserkier berserkers, berserkier berserkers +1 and berserk cultists. Woop. Really don't know if I'll bother with my WE any more.

Could be worse, you could be hearing fetch jokes...or in the "legends" rules list...


It's just a damn shame that we got more melee cultists, when we could've gotten blood pact and blooded type units in it instead. You know actually disciplined forces, common for khorne before GW went hurr durr skulls. Especially as a counterpoint to the berzerkier astartes?
Havocs with AC and plasma cannons. As was already the case in the past.
Regular bolter marines (with full equipment).
Working tanks.

There would've been many ways this would've been handled better than what it is right now, but instead we get this... "codex".... alas it seems we are stuck with this thing.

Still better than AOS Khorne Gorehulk and Bloodsecretors and wrathmongers.

TBF, setting the bar any lower would only be possible if you'd remove all khorne related units.

Interesting part to me and part of the reason it seems so boring is that it conforms to the requirements of the new Detachment vs the other boxes conforming to the Patrol Detachment.

Pretty sure that's just a coincidence. It's bland for sure but at least it isn't annoying groups of units like some boxes.

Colour me shocked. I was expecting 10 Zerkers/20 Jackals, not the opposite. That's pretty cool.

Not Online!!! wrote:
TBF, setting the bar any lower would only be possible if you'd remove all khorne related units.

It'd be like releasing a Deathwatch Combat Patrol without any actual Deathwatch minis. Oh wait...

 Gert wrote:
Pretty sure that's just a coincidence. It's bland for sure but at least it isn't annoying groups of units like some boxes.

you mean like the new CSM box? Which is only daemonic / possessed things and 5 terminators?

I wish that box would've been built more like this tbf.

Only the Wolves one has a non-generic unit and that's only because the Reivers are supposed to be built as Hounds of Morkai.
As a basis for building a Deathwatch army at the CP level, the box is fine. Deathwatch Vets are 9 power for a base unit whereas an Intercessor Squad is only 5 and a Fortis Kill Team only 6.

Not Online!!! wrote:
you mean like the new CSM box? Which is only daemonic / possessed things and 5 terminators?

I wish that box would've been built more like this tbf.

No more the Dark Angels, Blood Angels, Space Wolves, Thousand Sons, and Death Guard boxes. The Chapter-specific Marine ones are just random things chucked together with some upgrade kits, and the Chaos ones are flat-out illegal lists in some combinations.
The new CSM box is just a launch box but late.

Not Online!!! wrote:

 Gert wrote:
Pretty sure that's just a coincidence. It's bland for sure but at least it isn't annoying groups of units like some boxes.

you mean like the new CSM box? Which is only daemonic / possessed things and 5 terminators?

I wish that box would've been built more like this tbf.

Interestingly, the new CSM box ALSO conforms to the new Detachment(HQ and 3 Elites).

Every new thing will conform to the new detachment type because it's basically just unbound.

I think its a fantastic combat patrol. It comes with a good mix of your core units + a spammable HQ, its a box that you can buy 2-3 copies of and get value from and a solid core to your army.

Aside from the models in this set, the only other new kits I can recall being associated with the World Eaters release are Angron and the Eightbound. Theres basically nothing else they could have put in the set aside from generic CSM stuff like a Helbrute and Rhino, but meh - if I want those supporting units which are not inherently world eaters kits themselves, I'll buy them separately.

 Gert wrote:
Every new thing will conform to the new detachment type because it's basically just unbound.

Except previous Patrol boxes because it's NOT "basically Unbound". It's basically an excuse to get rid of most of the other Detachment types for 10th.

 Platuan4th wrote:
Except previous Patrol boxes because it's NOT "basically Unbound". It's basically an excuse to get rid of most of the other Detachment types for 10th.

I'm actually going to change what I said because technically it won't be true when the Guard CP box comes out. Instead, I'll just say that you're looking for a conspiracy when there isn't one chief.
The CP boxes are designed to be 25 Power lists out of the box so people can start playing 40k with just the contents of a single bundle. Now I don't know the exact power levels of each of those units but I'm betting it adds up to 25. There is your reason for why the box contains what it does.

This is an excellent combat patrol, probably among the best if not the best available. It's great value wise and the core of an army, without punishing you for doubling up.

Going to be very easy to start 2 of these, and then fill out with 8bound.

Certainly better than a crate of Tzaangor

 Sasori wrote:
This is an excellent combat patrol, probably among the best if not the best available. It's great value wise and the core of an army, without punishing you for doubling up.

Going to be very easy to start 2 of these, and then fill out with 8bound.

This is what I see as well.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 Sasori wrote:
This is an excellent combat patrol, probably among the best if not the best available. It's great value wise and the core of an army, without punishing you for doubling up.

Going to be very easy to start 2 of these, and then fill out with 8bound.

This is what I see as well.

Thirded.
It's an efficient way to get the Jugger Lord & Invocatus.

Why yes this will do nicely. Good to see GW has not repeated the past mistake they did with TS and have 20 Cult-infantry and 10 Marines as this box is 20 BEZERKERS and 10 Jackhals. Which will fit comfortably into the two Chaos Rhinos I have. Along with the Jugger Lord/Lord-Invocatus this appears to be a very good actual starter set for the army. Especially for an army that likes to charge things.

The Boarding Action Rules for WE have not been released yet but I wouldn’t be surprised if there was an exception for the Jugger Lord to be included despite being Calvary.

I’ve seen comments that this is not an “exciting” box compared to others but that actually may be better - as this box gives you the meat and potatoes of a WE force and does not give you the hang up of having a unit that may be less than useful…like a Heldrake…or a special character you only need one of. And you certainly wouldn’t be punished for doubling up

If only they’d given World Eaters Jugger Cavalry as a base unit.

I do think this is a decent set, especially as you seem to be able to double up nicely, and whilst far from familiar with the rules let alone WE, there’s nothing looking useless.