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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/04 13:57:26
Subject: Warmachine/Hordes MKIV coming!
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Fixture of Dakka
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They have been. I thought they were referring specifically to pics from the Warfaire Weekend display case.
Personally I like them, but I'm fond of the old style too. These work better for me in the context of the 50 mm backline support role compared to the Tankers though, just because I find the Tanker solos struggle to look like there's a pilot rather than just being a Warjack.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/04 14:38:07
Subject: Warmachine/Hordes MKIV coming!
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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I prefer the new designs a lot, but I was one of the few people who seemingly never loved the Man-o-War.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/04 16:27:13
Subject: Warmachine/Hordes MKIV coming!
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Ancient Venerable Black Templar Dreadnought
Where ever the Emperor needs his eyes
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I like the new ones and the old ones. I'll probably end up with a few of those new ones.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/04 16:41:36
Subject: Warmachine/Hordes MKIV coming!
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Fixture of Dakka
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There's a Black Friday sale running on PP's webstore for all the old plastic stuff they need to clear out of their warehouse. Discount applied in cart but just seems to be 50% off across the board.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/06 04:45:41
Subject: Warmachine/Hordes MKIV coming!
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Dakka Veteran
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I picked up four models from the mini-crate sale, then canceled my subscription. It was good while it lasted.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/08 20:56:49
Subject: Warmachine/Hordes MKIV coming!
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Martial Arts SAS
United Kingdom
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Doh, only just found out about that in the newsletter recap PP just sent out. Is there anything left? There are one or two mini-crate minis that I missed out on that I'd love to get!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/08 21:04:16
Subject: Warmachine/Hordes MKIV coming!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
UK
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The only one I really wanted was the Totem Huntress, but you have to sign up to be a member of minicrate to get the invite and all to start with I think.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/08 21:10:14
Subject: Warmachine/Hordes MKIV coming!
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Martial Arts SAS
United Kingdom
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Yeah, I have been a subscriber on and off, but recently off. If there is anything left I will see if I have to see if there are any UK subscribers here on Dakka who can help
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/08 21:27:42
Subject: Warmachine/Hordes MKIV coming!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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There's about half of the models left but the sale started late due for some reason so when I got in about 30min after it actually started several things were sold out that I didn't have. Managed to get a few things but sadly the Ord Piper I wanted was gone. The Totem Huntress is also out of stock
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/08 22:25:20
Subject: Warmachine/Hordes MKIV coming!
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Martial Arts SAS
United Kingdom
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Do you know if there are any Alexias or 00 Di Brays left?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/09 00:35:11
Subject: Warmachine/Hordes MKIV coming!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Neither are. Alexias was sold out in the first few minutes as I was thinking of getting a second.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/09 09:18:56
Subject: Warmachine/Hordes MKIV coming!
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Martial Arts SAS
United Kingdom
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Shoot! Guess I don't need to find an active subscriber to help me out then. Thanks for letting me know!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/11 12:37:17
Subject: Warmachine/Hordes MKIV coming!
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Pewling Menial
Romania
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LunarSol wrote:There's a Black Friday sale running on PP's webstore for all the old plastic stuff they need to clear out of their warehouse. Discount applied in cart but just seems to be 50% off across the board.
I've ordered a Hurricane/Stormwall  . The offer was too good, even with vat and shipping, and I wanted the cygnar colossal for a long time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/12 03:02:04
Subject: Re:Warmachine/Hordes MKIV coming!
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Furious Raptor
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Khadorian tankette
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/12 03:53:46
Subject: Warmachine/Hordes MKIV coming!
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Terrifying Doombull
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I like the front piston just intersecting the flat side of the armor plate that's half again its thickness.
The warped armor above the tread adds something as well, as does the front screw half the size of the driver's head.
Bad idea poorly executed.
...does it still have mould flash on the barrel and other parts of the guns and far side of the tank, or are all those parallel lines from something else?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/12 05:56:03
Subject: Warmachine/Hordes MKIV coming!
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
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Its a just a digital render....so...no. Thats not flash or mold lines
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/12 09:09:46
Subject: Warmachine/Hordes MKIV coming!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Ireland
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Yet more things in Warmachine that detract from Warjacks
It is a cool idea, just more nails in the coffin for Warjacks.
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The objective of the game is to win. The point of the game is to have fun. The two should never be confused. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/01/11 19:22:33
Subject: Warmachine/Hordes MKIV coming!
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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Warmachine Annual Update ‘23, marking the end of the beta phase of the mkIV rules.
https://home.privateerpress.com/2023/01/11/warmachine-mkiv-annual-update-2023/
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/01/11 23:24:52
Subject: Warmachine/Hordes MKIV coming!
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Fixture of Dakka
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stonehorse wrote:Yet more things in Warmachine that detract from Warjacks
It is a cool idea, just more nails in the coffin for Warjacks.
Just as an aside, now that we've seen the rules for the Bison, I really struggle to see where I'd take it over a Warjack.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/01/14 17:12:04
Subject: Warmachine/Hordes MKIV coming!
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Apparently its all out of Beta now? Didn't really see any sort of announcement
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/01/15 19:44:00
Subject: Warmachine/Hordes MKIV coming!
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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LunarSol wrote: stonehorse wrote:Yet more things in Warmachine that detract from Warjacks
It is a cool idea, just more nails in the coffin for Warjacks.
Just as an aside, now that we've seen the rules for the Bison, I really struggle to see where I'd take it over a Warjack.
For the POW 19 ranged attack with POW 14 AOE2 blast damage under combo strike. Its exceedingly rare to come across a ranged weapon with a POW that high, most weapons top at POW15/16, and getting that on a weapon that causes blast damage (at effective POW 14 no less) is pretty much unheard of. For 10pts its a rarity and a bit of a steal. Throw Savaryns Kill Order Battle Plan into the mix and you can potentially wipe a trio of high ARM 5-8 wound heavy infantry under shield guard in a single attack, etc.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/01/15 21:51:02
Subject: Re:Warmachine/Hordes MKIV coming!
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Fixture of Dakka
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I like the concept, kinda reminds me of something from G.I.Joe, but the execution is naff. It looks like the Armourcast titans, where they took the 6mm Epic designs and did a straight scale up. This thing would be fine as a tiny scale model, but at a 28mm wargaming size, the details are oversized and proportions are a mess.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/01/15 23:21:14
Subject: Warmachine/Hordes MKIV coming!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Ireland
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chaos0xomega wrote: LunarSol wrote: stonehorse wrote:Yet more things in Warmachine that detract from Warjacks
It is a cool idea, just more nails in the coffin for Warjacks.
Just as an aside, now that we've seen the rules for the Bison, I really struggle to see where I'd take it over a Warjack.
For the POW 19 ranged attack with POW 14 AOE2 blast damage under combo strike. Its exceedingly rare to come across a ranged weapon with a POW that high, most weapons top at POW15/16, and getting that on a weapon that causes blast damage (at effective POW 14 no less) is pretty much unheard of. For 10pts its a rarity and a bit of a steal. Throw Savaryns Kill Order Battle Plan into the mix and you can potentially wipe a trio of high ARM 5-8 wound heavy infantry under shield guard in a single attack, etc.
And all that without needing to be fed focus, thus leaving the Warcaster more focus to allocate to other things, like spells, more attacks, etc.
Warjacks are cool and all, but each one taken has an impact on the Warcasters performance... which I know is the aim of the game. So things like the Bison, just solve that conundrum without the player needing to think too much about it.
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The objective of the game is to win. The point of the game is to have fun. The two should never be confused. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/01/16 14:20:51
Subject: Warmachine/Hordes MKIV coming!
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Fixture of Dakka
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stonehorse wrote:
And all that without needing to be fed focus, thus leaving the Warcaster more focus to allocate to other things, like spells, more attacks, etc.
Warjacks are cool and all, but each one taken has an impact on the Warcasters performance... which I know is the aim of the game. So things like the Bison, just solve that conundrum without the player needing to think too much about it.
This really isn't an issue in mk4. Most factions have pretty cheap access to units or solos that provide more focus. The Winter Korps Arkanists are nearly enough with Power Up to fully load two jacks. Borisyuk and Katarina are both extremely focus heavy casters that can barely run their jacks in battlebox games, but as soon as the rules for Arkanists were available I was easily able to run lists with 3-4+ jacks without issue. Automatically Appended Next Post: chaos0xomega wrote:
For the POW 19 ranged attack with POW 14 AOE2 blast damage under combo strike. Its exceedingly rare to come across a ranged weapon with a POW that high, most weapons top at POW15/16, and getting that on a weapon that causes blast damage (at effective POW 14 no less) is pretty much unheard of. For 10pts its a rarity and a bit of a steal. Throw Savaryns Kill Order Battle Plan into the mix and you can potentially wipe a trio of high ARM 5-8 wound heavy infantry under shield guard in a single attack, etc.
Admittedly there's a huge difference between what's good with Savaryn and what's good with the other two. Kill Order is basically his entire gameplan and it not working wtih jacks makes a lot of room for everything else. It's a really good gun, but one really good gun for that cost has never been enough in the game particularly without a boost mechanic.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/01/17 03:45:33
Subject: Warmachine/Hordes MKIV coming!
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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I mean, its a really good gun with a decent melee attack attached to it, that doesn't need to use a focus point to charge, but can still benefit from a variety of other buffs in the army. At 10pts its a steal.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/01/17 15:58:26
Subject: Warmachine/Hordes MKIV coming!
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Fixture of Dakka
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chaos0xomega wrote:I mean, its a really good gun with a decent melee attack attached to it, that doesn't need to use a focus point to charge, but can still benefit from a variety of other buffs in the army. At 10pts its a steal.
I'm not sure I agree, but its the only thing in the army I haven't tested out yet so my opinion is just theory. I'll have to bring an Armiger to the shop next time to try it out, though I plan to buy one regardless for display.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/01/18 09:20:03
Subject: Warmachine/Hordes MKIV coming!
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I wish they just sold the STLs, they ship 3D prints of questionable quality anyway.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/01/18 10:09:56
Subject: Warmachine/Hordes MKIV coming!
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Using Object Source Lighting
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Sasorijap wrote:I wish they just sold the STLs, they ship 3D prints of questionable quality anyway.
I doubt they could charge the premium prices they want for their minis if they went STL route.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/01/18 10:35:49
Subject: Warmachine/Hordes MKIV coming!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
UK
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The STL market is entirely different and is honestly rather strange because you get production products are bargain bin costs. They'd have to shift their business focus entirely to profit off stl sales. Plus they'd still have to manufacture and ship out 3D printed models because the number of 3D printer owners is tiny compared to the number of non-3D printer owners in the market.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/01/18 10:58:14
Subject: Warmachine/Hordes MKIV coming!
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Using Object Source Lighting
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Overread wrote: rather strange because you get production products are bargain bin costs.
Don't you feel like its all about huge quantities of STLs, little care for IPs, sweat shop for 3D art, no production cost, random quality control etc, etc. Almost like totally unregulated.
I dont know but maybe some of those explain the bargain bin costs?
Either way its the opposite of what PP tries to sell.
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