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 Shakalooloo wrote:
So their beasts are hydra tatzylwurms?

Basically a new strain of dragonspawn that gained independence from Everblight. They're very much of the Legion template but with Saeryn's tendency for more snake like designs.

Call me a bitter ex-WM player, but bloody hell those look horrible.

WarmaHordes had simple faction identifiable color schemes - Cygnar is blue, Khador is red, etc. These minis are just a jumble of metal, cream, purple, red, yellow, etc.

And IMO they're kind of a ripoff of the mecha-Legion guy that converted his whole army to be robotic

New Magnus as well. His Warjack has gotten quite the glow-up.

 ScarletRose wrote:
Call me a bitter ex-WM player, but bloody hell those look horrible.

WarmaHordes had simple faction identifiable color schemes - Cygnar is blue, Khador is red, etc. These minis are just a jumble of metal, cream, purple, red, yellow, etc.

And IMO they're kind of a ripoff of the mecha-Legion guy that converted his whole army to be robotic

This oddly isn't even the mecha-Legion half of Khymera. They've just got Angel painting everything (except maybe Khador and Trolls) in a severely overdone NMM style that overwhelms the underlying color scheme horribly. I'd hoped they'd stopped as it seemed to be getting better, but these definitely restore the problem and will likely look much better in a normal scheme.

That's not necessarily PP having him do that, it's just how Angel paints.

 ScarletRose wrote:
And IMO they're kind of a ripoff of the mecha-Legion guy that converted his whole army to be robotic

I heard that's literally the inspiration for the army In the same way that Farrow were long ago a conversion that somebody made to turn Trollbloods into Pigdudes (according to my Pressganger buddy).

Anyway, I love the purple snek things. Also WOW at Invictus, very much Mangler and Renegade rebuilt on a Cygnar-style chassis. Pretty rad.

Angel hasn't been painting studio models for years at this point. It was Erik Swinson and now it is Josh Berman.

I want to like that new Magnus. He was my favorite character back in the day. But his rocket launcher is out of place and the model is really static. Shame.

Magnus and his new Jack look awesome.... and so far are the only good looking thing from MKIV.

Tactical sandbags deployed.

Magnus is whatever, the Jack is sweet. I like the Kymerae models too although I get the issue with the paint jobs. Very well done, but a bit much for product shots maybe.

Magnus' warjack is pretty nice looking - but it looks like it has two heads. Like, I'm familiar enough with PP style to know where the actual head is - but just looking at it - the red glowing thing just under the smokestacks looks like a head to me.

Schmapdi wrote:
Magnus' warjack is pretty nice looking - but it looks like it has two heads. Like, I'm familiar enough with PP style to know where the actual head is - but just looking at it - the red glowing thing just under the smokestacks looks like a head to me.

It's his arc node. But yup, it looks like an armoured head.

 stonehorse wrote:
Magnus and his new Jack look awesome.... and so far are the only good looking thing from MKIV.

Yeah seriously. I loved my old heavily customized Magnus army running the various versions of his subfaction. If PP hadn't already effectively canned a large chunk of my collection in an earlier edition change I'd be thrilled with this, but yeah it's still a stand-out kit from a company that's disappointed me too many times. Maybe I'll get it for nostalgia if I ever see it pop up for cheap.

 spiralingcadaver wrote:

 stonehorse wrote:
Magnus and his new Jack look awesome.... and so far are the only good looking thing from MKIV.

Yeah seriously. I loved my old heavily customized Magnus army running the various versions of his subfaction. If PP hadn't already effectively canned a large chunk of my collection in an earlier edition change I'd be thrilled with this, but yeah it's still a stand-out kit from a company that's disappointed me too many times. Maybe I'll get it for nostalgia if I ever see it pop up for cheap.

I'm mostly just disappointed I can't run it in my actual Magnus2 list. :(


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Cyel wrote:

Schmapdi wrote:
Magnus' warjack is pretty nice looking - but it looks like it has two heads. Like, I'm familiar enough with PP style to know where the actual head is - but just looking at it - the red glowing thing just under the smokestacks looks like a head to me.

It's his arc node. But yup, it looks like an armoured head.

I keep thinking its a cute little glowing heart.

I haven't been following the most recent fluff. Did Magnus get banished from Cygnar once again?

 odinsgrandson wrote:
I haven't been following the most recent fluff. Did Magnus get banished from Cygnar once again?

I'm not sure if they've revealed the fluff behind him, but I suspect King Julius dying of the plague he's lost his place in Cygnar and with Vinter dead it makes the most sense for him to take his particular brand of Warjack design where its more wanted.

It certainly makes me sad for all the cool merc models (I own) that will never get a similar glow-up.

I like mech hydras!

But I'm so on the fence right now with even if its worth investing into Warmachine with how its going. I'm also wondering if I wait long enough they'll just start selling STLs I can print at home on my own printer

 Overread wrote:
I like mech hydras!

But I'm so on the fence right now with even if its worth investing into Warmachine with how its going. I'm also wondering if I wait long enough they'll just start selling STLs I can print at home on my own printer

I quite like Mk4, but I'm very frustrated with the timelines. I think the army box is probably worth picking up once the expansion is out, but there's no need to rush in and be an early adopter. By the time you can buy it, we'll have a better idea of the state of the game.

 Overread wrote:
I like mech hydras!

But I'm so on the fence right now with even if its worth investing into Warmachine with how its going. I'm also wondering if I wait long enough they'll just start selling STLs I can print at home on my own printer

I think MKIV is a cleaner rule set, but the setting hasn't got the same draw that the original had.

What is really hindering the release is how slow they are at getting rules for all the pre MKIV stuff, a new edition that has a good chunk of the fan base unable to try it out, due to lack of rules for models is not ideal.

 stonehorse wrote:

 Overread wrote:
I like mech hydras!

But I'm so on the fence right now with even if its worth investing into Warmachine with how its going. I'm also wondering if I wait long enough they'll just start selling STLs I can print at home on my own printer

I think MKIV is a cleaner rule set, but the setting hasn't got the same draw that the original had.

What is really hindering the release is how slow they are at getting rules for all the pre MKIV stuff, a new edition that has a good chunk of the fan base unable to try it out, due to lack of rules for models is not ideal.

Agree with your point, the timeline skip really kills my interest in the game since it is not only a setting I don't have much investment in now, but I will have to rebuy my whole army in VERY expensive 3d printed minis.

They’ve been fairly far behind on getting the stuff out as well. Seems to take them a good bit longer to produce stuff via 3D print than they thought.

 stonehorse wrote:

 Overread wrote:
I like mech hydras!

But I'm so on the fence right now with even if its worth investing into Warmachine with how its going. I'm also wondering if I wait long enough they'll just start selling STLs I can print at home on my own printer

I think MKIV is a cleaner rule set, but the setting hasn't got the same draw that the original had.

What is really hindering the release is how slow they are at getting rules for all the pre MKIV stuff, a new edition that has a good chunk of the fan base unable to try it out, due to lack of rules for models is not ideal.

All of the Prime format models have had rules for a month or so now. They've actually been far ahead of their roadmap on that front. It's the new armies that they've been previewing and not been able to release on time.

 Overread wrote:
I'm also wondering if I wait long enough they'll just start selling STLs I can print at home on my own printer

Part of me is over here with you. I have so many other things going on, and WM's prices are so high and game presence so low, that I'm content to wait and keep checking in to see if they've relented yet

 LunarSol wrote:

 stonehorse wrote:

 Overread wrote:
I like mech hydras!

But I'm so on the fence right now with even if its worth investing into Warmachine with how its going. I'm also wondering if I wait long enough they'll just start selling STLs I can print at home on my own printer

I think MKIV is a cleaner rule set, but the setting hasn't got the same draw that the original had.

What is really hindering the release is how slow they are at getting rules for all the pre MKIV stuff, a new edition that has a good chunk of the fan base unable to try it out, due to lack of rules for models is not ideal.

All of the Prime format models have had rules for a month or so now. They've actually been far ahead of their roadmap on that front. It's the new armies that they've been previewing and not been able to release on time.

I've forgotten what the deal is - are the cards avialable on an app or something to check out?

I thought 3D printing was supposed to prevent the supply issues they had in the past. Looks like new format, same old problems from PP.

They are way past their golden days. I have spoken to a few former employees and they all say that the owner is problematic. Don't expect things to get better.

Tough financial times can make manages do odd things that might on the outside appear strange, but make sense from the numbers. IT can also be that sometimes a manager has skill at running a firm doing well, but lacks the understanding to identify problems and rebuild when things are going wrong. This can be especially hard if the firm downsizes and loses key skilled staff who might have had that knowledge.


It all gets worse if the person at the top has personality issues or approaches the business in a way that isn't conductive to growth or maximising investments or such.

 LunarSol wrote:

 stonehorse wrote:

 Overread wrote:
I like mech hydras!

But I'm so on the fence right now with even if its worth investing into Warmachine with how its going. I'm also wondering if I wait long enough they'll just start selling STLs I can print at home on my own printer

I think MKIV is a cleaner rule set, but the setting hasn't got the same draw that the original had.

What is really hindering the release is how slow they are at getting rules for all the pre MKIV stuff, a new edition that has a good chunk of the fan base unable to try it out, due to lack of rules for models is not ideal.

All of the Prime format models have had rules for a month or so now. They've actually been far ahead of their roadmap on that front. It's the new armies that they've been previewing and not been able to release on time.

Just checked the app, and nope a lot if the old stuff is still missing from the Unlimited format. Thus is what is, I beg putting people off. They will have large collections and can not use it. As is I can only build forces for a few of the factions.

I may just stick with MK2 and incorporate some of the changes that work in MKIV.