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Oh my god I stayed up until 3 am for a damn resin primarch resculpt

Voss wrote:
Really?
We're bumping the progress of basic Heresy kits to shove a plastic Horus onto the field?

And a not-so-veiled threat of more primarchs in the future?
Booooo!

It;s a resin Forge World model.

OMG Horus is mindblowing! Sculpt looks so crisp, guess he is the first Primarch to be digitally designed.

For anyone hoping for more HH plastic, don't get your hopes up too much. I guess we've seen most if not all of the plastic releases for now, and depending on how surprised they were by their own success, it might take a few months before we see more plastic kits.

Now the question is, are the MkIII power armour pieces on his bases the same as the current plastic kit or rescaled/redesigned?

And basically this means no more HH plastics for months, possibly for 2022.

Gabriel Seth!

HH release is a friggen yawn.....

Just ANOTHER huge centerpiece model, only this time in the new system!

GW *really* needs to start pumping out infantry units other than the MkVI AoD boxed set.

 Ghaz wrote:

Voss wrote:
Really?
We're bumping the progress of basic Heresy kits to shove a plastic Horus onto the field?

And a not-so-veiled threat of more primarchs in the future?
Booooo!

It;s a resin Forge World model.

Yeah, they wandered to the point eventually.

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And now: berserkers. Lots of bare arms, for anyone who was missing those.
10 in a box! axes, swords, double handed chainsword, double handed axe, at least 3 plasma pistols shown.

Some interesting shoulder pads. And some of the old style gloves.

World Eaters are an interesting, but still cohesive mix of their predecessors across the ages.

No power fists though. Guess they're invalidating even more of my Cult Troops...

I guess Emps is next for HH

I much prefer new Horus to old Horus, it has so much more character. Hoping this might mean a Fulgrim down the line with a better face.

Summary time:

Votann- meh to blah for me, but everything is shown off now, so that's done.
Excitement for a road map, and that Guard and WE are set for Winter (supposedly Winter _this year_, according to Eddie).

Underworlds- neat idea, not sure it appeals. But could see cannibalizing them for characters or conversions.

AoS- Ogres and Giants are getting a token release, pleased with the Slaves to Darkness stuff.
Roadmap again, Elfs and Tzeentch should be september to fit in 'summer,' then big folks for autumn and Chaos for Winter.

HH- Big thumbs down. Couldn't have disappointed me more if they tried.

Bersekers- will give these a think. definitely an improvement, but that would be hard not to do at this point.

No teaser. Oh well.
And WarCom hasn't updated with anything past the ogre hunter.

Voss wrote:
Cool it can have a tau-like rail gun that ignores invulnerables and does additional splash damage.

AKA "screw you xenos players, your NPC faction doesn't get anything unique."


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And of course no guard, because why would GW want to update the game's worst faction until 15 minutes before 10th invalidates the codex?

I like all the Votan infantry. It feeling the vehicles. Not quite Taurox territory, but getting close. The land fortress would be ok with less but bigger wheels I think. Wheels are a weird choice if it is supposed to be landraider ish.

HH reveal was even more disappointing than the Adeptus Titanicus new weapon reveal. At least that didn’t get elevated to the bigger event.

The last couple events like this had been much better after a string of terrible over-hyped nothing burgers. This wasn’t to that low, more of a mixed bag, but it always feels a bit of a waste to have a big chunk devoted to something that is coming so soon.

I guess if I was into Squats this would be a big event to me but as it is, meh. But glad for a new faction even if the aesthetic is doing zip for me overall.

Aecus Decimus wrote:
And of course no guard, because why would GW want to update the game's worst faction until 15 minutes before 10th invalidates the codex?

We're not getting updated, we're getting downgraded.

Squats look rough. Not my cup of tea. I like the new horus sculpt. Slaves to darkness looked good. New zerkers are OK.

... overall holy crap they look amazing!!!

So...

NotSquat characters are nice. The Champ, the Psyker, the Engineer, the Robo-Friends and the leader dude are all pretty cool. So far the Votann characters are pretty good. It's their everything else I don't really like. The giant Box Fortress puts even Marine flyers to shame. It doesn't feel solid. It feels... inflatable.

Underwords. I simply have to have the Bloodhulk guy or whatever he's called. That model is too cool. The Priest guy is pretty sweet as well. It's weird, I own tons of Underworld models, yet I have zero interest in ever playing the game. I guess that's a testament to how good the minis are for that range.

AoS. Hunter Ogre is fine, I guess. Big Giant is nice, I 'spose. No real interest from me. I preferred the Ogre Hunter from Underwords (he had a Sabretusk friend!). The new Chaos stuff is fething cool! The Chosen are ace, the Daemon Prince is amazing (I want 6!). The kinda-sorta Minotaurs are nifty. Love everything about that re-release. And I feel sorry for poor Lumineth players.

Horus Heresy. Another waste of time preview, being a single resin FW mini, but damn if Ascended Horus ain't a great looking kit. Makes the Abaddon model look like an amateur sculpt.

And back to 40k again, the World Eater release terrifies me, as so far it just seems like a list that takes the Chaos Codex, throws 80% of it out the window, and leaves you with dregs. And no Power Fists on my 'Zerker Champs either. Thanks GW for invalidating yet another one of my armies. See you when the Guard Codex comes out so you can do it again.


[EDIT]: Ok, I worked out what's off-putting about the new Berzerkers.

It's the bare arms.

Once upon a time, Kharn had a bare arm/Space Wolves had a few wolf pelts or wolf-head symbols. Then a brain bug infested GW and flanderisation began, and now all Zerkers have bare arms/Space Wolves are 100% wolves all the time.

By the time we hit 13th Edition World Eaters will have the "full Space Wolf" treatment, and the new new 'Zerkers will basically be this, but with chainweapons and a Khorne helmet.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Aecus Decimus wrote:
And of course no guard, because why would GW want to update the game's worst faction until 15 minutes before 10th invalidates the codex?

We're not getting updated, we're getting downgraded.

It will be fine, the new Prymaris™ Psentynyl™ will be game-breaking nonsense that ignores demonic saves and any ability that prevents it from re-rolling or changes what die result it succeeds on.


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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
It doesn't feel solid. It feels... inflatable.

Thank you! There's the description I've been trying to put into words. It's not a fortress, it's one of those inflatable castle things on wheels.

Votann is fine. I'm not motivated to buy them (especially having just started a major army project with GSC), but they'll be fun to see from across the battlefield.

Ascended Horus is a great-looking model.

The vague "Winter" release for Guard and World Eaters may mean they get their launches after the 10e unveiling at LVO in January.

Next winter is December 20, 2022 to March 20, 2023. Usually the only things released around Christmas are army boxes, so I'm not expecting Guard till sometime in January and World Eaters maybe in February..

Anyone help identify some of this terrain?

 Asmodai wrote:
Next winter is December 20, 2022 to March 20, 2023. Usually the only things released around Christmas are army boxes, so I'm not expecting Guard till sometime in January and World Eaters maybe in February..

Guard? Last Codex of the year. World Eaters? First Codex of next year. Then either a 10th Ed designed new Marine Codex, or filler campaign books and then BOOM, 10th Ed in May/June, followed by a new Marine Codex (if it's not already out) and a seriously downgraded Tyranid Codex.

The Berserker Marine kit looks closer in design to the Rubric Marine kit, which is a blessing for sure.


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Also I love none of them have a melee weapon in the right hand LOL

I mean releasing a major lore character like Angron might be part of the story arc for 10th. I don’t expect a whole lot of world eater models but that might be a prelude codex to 10th Ed.

I’m actually surprised I don’t see a lot of new terrain kits..I’m not sold killteam spacehulk set and Gw has purged most of thier terrain sets.

HBMC that set looks like new scatter terrain.

The Khorne Berserkers look amazing imo. They're very distinctive, but at the same time, if one were to put in some of their own kitbashed from the CSM box, they would fit well together. I also love the new Chosen; with just a powerpack attached and a ranged weapon of some kind, it would be very easy to transform them into different-looking CSM, maybe even 40K Chosen.

The Box Fortress should have giant tyres like this.

 ArcaneHorror wrote:
... if one were to put in some of their own kitbashed from the CSM box, they would fit well together.

Hopefully the new 'Zerker kit will be compatible with the current CSM... ... sorry, I couldn't make it through the whole sentence without laughing at that concept.

 ArcaneHorror wrote:
I also love the new Chosen; with just a powerpack attached and a ranged weapon of some kind, it would be very easy to transform them into different-looking CSM, maybe even 40K Chosen.

The Chosen are great, and I'm sure someone will 40k-er-ize them at some point.

I'm just shocked that they're coming 10 to a box, and not 5. Ditto for the 'Zerkers coming 10 to a box rather than 8.

Six months before Guard codex invalidated for a new edition. A wait of near six years.... it better be fething good.

 BlackoCatto wrote:
Six months before Guard codex invalidated for a new edition. A wait of near six years.... it better be fething good.

Nah. Guard will be the first of the 10th Edition Codices.

Feel sorry instead for Daemons players. They didn't even get a new model.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 ArcaneHorror wrote:
... if one were to put in some of their own kitbashed from the CSM box, they would fit well together.

Hopefully the new 'Zerker kit will be compatible with the current CSM... ... sorry, I couldn't make it through the whole sentence without laughing at that concept.

They actually mentioned that it was compatible with the rest of the Chaos range on the stream and I immediately felt rage because that only matters if ANY UNIT IN EITHER BOOK HAS OPTIONS.

Horus looks amazing and the Dwarven Artificer/Squat psyker looks great too. Khorne berzerkers are an improvement but that's not hard to do given the previous benchmark. The squat vehicles look a bit too toyish for my tastes but I don't think they're bad per se though either.