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Sarouan wrote:

To me, it's quite crystal clear what they want to end that 40 years series with.

A Primaris Lieutenant, naturally!

Yeah, Space Marines. Duh

chaos0xomega wrote:


Then we get to listen to the presenters gush about how great the 20+ year old models are and how nostalgic they are for WHFB for 10 minutes while offering us little additional information of value.

I'm not even sure we would be that lucky. Last time I watched a stream it was for AoS and one guy was hyping it all up and asked the other one had he been working on anything recently. Without anything even resembling emotion was like "No". Never seen a presentation go so stale so fast.

If they can't get anyone to be excited about "The current best selling fantasy game" (Specifically people hired to BE EXCITED about said game) I'd be highly surprised if they can even get any of them to gush about a re-released game that was last available before most of the current staff were even born.

Big news about ToW on 14th october. From WarCom:

This parade of awesome articles will culminate on Saturday with an extra-special live reveal show on the Warhammer Twitch Channel. Things kick off at 2pm BST, and there’s a real welter of stuff to unveil: new books and miniatures for Warhammer 40,000 and Warhammer Age of Sigmar, a new box and a new faction for Kill Team, and big news for Warhammer: The Old World.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/10/02/warhammer-day-is-coming-and-so-are-all-these-juicy-reveals/

 triplegrim wrote:
Big news about ToW on 14th october. From WarCom:

This parade of awesome articles will culminate on Saturday with an extra-special live reveal show on the Warhammer Twitch Channel. Things kick off at 2pm BST, and there’s a real welter of stuff to unveil: new books and miniatures for Warhammer 40,000 and Warhammer Age of Sigmar, a new box and a new faction for Kill Team, and big news for Warhammer: The Old World.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/10/02/warhammer-day-is-coming-and-so-are-all-these-juicy-reveals/

Probably another single character or sprue - maybe a picture or two.....

Yeah, I'm dubious about GW posting that there's 'big news' about big news in an upcoming online show. That never really lands well.

On the upside, we might get to see something for Necron and Ad Mech since winter is coming.

It's all relative. Any news is big when compared against no news.

Isn't that pretty much the same thing they said before the NOVA Open?

with GW liking to play with words, "big news" can mean anything
from a release date, to showing of the rumoured boxes, the game itself but also just the old Albion Giants as resin model.

I get exited the day after if there really was something of interest

Big news: we will tell you when we will announce the next reveal

Get ready for:

„Dear Warhammer fans,
Today, I have good news and not so good news.
But first, let me apologize for the long wait and the mixed communication since the annoucement of TOW years ago.
At that time, we knew that there were still many fans passionate about WFB who were looking forward to a return to the Old World, just like us. That’s why we started this project: to bring you Warhammer in the Old World back, including the fantastic lore and art, a great ruleset and of course awesome miniatures to collect and play with.
However, since we revealed more of TOW at Warhammer Fest in May and the following weeks, the tremendous amount of interest in the game really surpassed our wildest dreams and we are truly humbled by your passion for the setting.
But it also made it abundantly clear that the scope of the project would fall flat in the face of the expectations of one of our most valued fan base.
So we made the difficult decision, just like with Adeptus Titanicus in the past, to delay the game a bit further in order to return to the Old World in a way that is befitting its 40 year old legacy and shows that we truely care about the setting.
Today, I am happy to announce that when Warhammer the Old Wolrd will return, it will eventually support all 17 factions of previous editions which, over time, will receive all new miniatures in plastic in order to refresh the miniature range and to make the game accessible for old fans of the setting as well as for players starting their adventure in the Old World for the first time.
To make the wait more enjoyable, we will make all WFB miniatures released since January 1st, 2000 available through our Made to Order programm, one army each month starting with Bretonnia in November. You will also be able to download any WFB rulebook and army book released since January 1st, 2000 for free from WarCom, so you can study the setting and play some games until Warhammer: The Old World arrives in 2025.
Thank you for your passion and continued support!„

That would be „big news“.
And after thinking about it, that would be my preferred way of a return to the Old World.

I'd be surprised if it weren't the launch announcement, unless the game is scheduled for 2025.

Its the 40th anniversary of WHFB and fewer games are being previewed than usual. AoS 4th edition is most likely going to occupy next year's schedule and hype. Both AoS and 40K offerings are probably going to be just the next codex and battletome releases, and Scorpions and Scouts for Kill Team. With a mere single model for The Old World thats not really worth a preview event, and especially bearing the name "Warhammer Day".

As a great bard once sung, its now or never.

Seelenhaendler wrote:
Get ready for:

„Dear Warhammer fans,
Today, I have good news and not so good news.
But first, let me apologize for the long wait and the mixed communication since the annoucement of TOW years ago.
At that time, we knew that there were still many fans passionate about WFB who were looking forward to a return to the Old World, just like us. That’s why we started this project: to bring you Warhammer in the Old World back, including the fantastic lore and art, a great ruleset and of course awesome miniatures to collect and play with.
However, since we revealed more of TOW at Warhammer Fest in May and the following weeks, the tremendous amount of interest in the game really surpassed our wildest dreams and we are truly humbled by your passion for the setting.
But it also made it abundantly clear that the scope of the project would fall flat in the face of the expectations of one of our most valued fan base.
So we made the difficult decision, just like with Adeptus Titanicus in the past, to delay the game a bit further in order to return to the Old World in a way that is befitting its 40 year old legacy and shows that we truely care about the setting.
Today, I am happy to announce that when Warhammer the Old Wolrd will return, it will eventually support all 17 factions of previous editions which, over time, will receive all new miniatures in plastic in order to refresh the miniature range and to make the game accessible for old fans of the setting as well as for players starting their adventure in the Old World for the first time.
To make the wait more enjoyable, we will make all WFB miniatures released since January 1st, 2000 available through our Made to Order programm, one army each month starting with Bretonnia in November. You will also be able to download any WFB rulebook and army book released since January 1st, 2000 for free from WarCom, so you can study the setting and play some games until Warhammer: The Old World arrives in 2025.
Thank you for your passion and continued support!„

That would be „big news“.
And after thinking about it, that would be my preferred way of a return to the Old World.

Wishlisting.

But I agree. Any pdf release would be preferable by now.

I call a 2026 release, and a wet fart at that.

But who knows.

more realistic if you replace "free on WarCom" with "accessible in the Vault with a Warhammer+ subscription"

scarletsquig wrote:
I think the rumour is probably legit, since the official warhammer community article does reference models from the 1990's returning, which doesn't include anything released post-6th edition (October 2000).

The skeletons are 1990's sculpts, which the WarCom article did say we are getting.

The base size change has come about because some of those ‘90s and ‘00s models became difficult to rank up

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/04/14/old-world-development-diary-on-bases-and-the-barons-of-bretonnia/quote

Mantic is going to be making bank on their 2022 not-tomb-king hard plastics at this rate, the 6th edition Bretonnians are great, the 4th edition skeletons not so much.

On a side note, the images in the article hint at a return to the classic lance formation.

I'm just happy that some classic minis will be available again so I can buy some new stuff for 6th edition games, highly likely that I'll go for a couple of brettonian boxes, it sounds like a good ratio of units in the box. For the inevitability overpriced resin, I'll look to 3d prints rather than £60 Forge World minis.

I think those Mantic sculpts could cost pennies and I'd struggle to summon any interest.

To be fair, I'd say that about a lot of the 6th Ed Bretonnian range as well.

Seelenhaendler wrote:
Get ready for:

„Dear Warhammer fans,
[snip]

That would be the single most sensible thing they could do at this moment given the rumours imo.

They obviously do not have the production capacity to support anything like 1 army made to order a month.

They have a certain capacity that they are able to dedicate to ToW and that's what will be dictating how many factions they are able to support over this first planned period of the game.

Mood music definitely seems to be pointing to starter set being announced on the 14th.

1 army per month as MtO is not equal 1 army produced & delivered each month

an MtO can take a year to get done and they can still add a new army every month for orders

Vorian wrote:
They obviously do not have the production capacity to support anything like 1 army made to order a month.

They have a certain capacity that they are able to dedicate to ToW and that's what will be dictating how many factions they are able to support over this first planned period of the game.

Mood music definitely seems to be pointing to starter set being announced on the 14th.

Rumour is that there won't be a starter set so much as some faction boxes.

Vorian wrote:
They obviously do not have the production capacity to support anything like 1 army made to order a month.

They have a certain capacity that they are able to dedicate to ToW and that's what will be dictating how many factions they are able to support over this first planned period of the game.

Mood music definitely seems to be pointing to starter set being announced on the 14th.

The 2025 prediction makes sense given the ongoing rollout of 40k. GW could basically have the games leapfrog each other to make the churn even more continuous.

 kodos wrote:
1 army per month as MtO is not equal 1 army produced & delivered each month

an MtO can take a year to get done and they can still add a new army every month for orders

They would still need to be made at some point, they are struggling to keep pace with their current release schedule and keep other things in stock as it is.

There is no realistic prospect of them introducing an army a month into their production bottleneck any time soon.

Rumour is that there won't be a starter set so much as some faction boxes.

I seem to remember the issue being confusion around what a starter set is. I think what we'll get is what 99% of us would consider to be a starter set (Brets vs TK).

Only 11 days to go to see I guess.

I think it'll be something more like Leviathan where it comes out for a short period of time.

Vorian wrote:


I seem to remember the issue being confusion around what a starter set is. I think what we'll get is what 99% of us would consider to be a starter set (Brets vs TK).

Only 11 days to go to see I guess.

The most accurate rumor mongers are saying a box for each army, no starter.

Yeah, rumor is separate boxes,1for TK and 1 for Brets for the initial launch, BUT there have been some rumors that a more proper 2 player starter set will follow at some point in the not too distant future, though that box won't necessarily be TK vs Brets. That ties in to the whole "soft launch" rumor thats been going around, the Bret and TK boxes are there to have something to show, basically, but the "real" Old World release (ie all the new stuff they've been working on) will be later.

Didn’t someone at GW say there was a box with two army’s coming?
Or was that more just an idea they had.

Seperate I think here GW has killed a lot of enthusiasm for it, I do think there was some players willing to start.
And just hoping for good rules, but it fizzled out with this weird GW strategy.

Like I feel the rules can’t be taking all this time, and a couple of new minis should have been easy for GW to work out.
Limited return over time to bring it back when the hype was hot.

Given the links with CA/Total War - they developed entire Army books for them - it probably does not help that CA has tried to destroy itself with "Hyenas" and Sega are slicing them to pieces as a tax write off.

 Platuan4th wrote:

Vorian wrote:


I seem to remember the issue being confusion around what a starter set is. I think what we'll get is what 99% of us would consider to be a starter set (Brets vs TK).

Only 11 days to go to see I guess.

The most accurate rumor mongers are saying a box for each army, no starter.

Are these rumours from outside this thread or have I manged to miss something?

were all in this topics

the only rumour about a 2 armies box comes from the social media post that "no 2 player starter box" does not mean "no starter box" but that GW understands something different under that term

Vorian wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:

Vorian wrote:


I seem to remember the issue being confusion around what a starter set is. I think what we'll get is what 99% of us would consider to be a starter set (Brets vs TK).

Only 11 days to go to see I guess.

The most accurate rumor mongers are saying a box for each army, no starter.

Are these rumours from outside this thread or have I manged to miss something?

It's been mentioned in here in a few places, but news and rumours rarely come to dakka first hand these days.

I expect the big news to be to Celebrate Warhammer turning 50 the Old World will be held back until then. Obviously I'm kidding but with GW you never know..