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Apple fox wrote:
Didn’t someone at GW say there was a box with two army’s coming?
Or was that more just an idea they had.

Seperate I think here GW has killed a lot of enthusiasm for it, I do think there was some players willing to start.
And just hoping for good rules, but it fizzled out with this weird GW strategy.

Like I feel the rules can’t be taking all this time, and a couple of new minis should have been easy for GW to work out.
Limited return over time to bring it back when the hype was hot.

Just a classics series with the old army boxes for bretonnians and tomb kings, or their battallion box sets would probably have sold out easily due to nostalgia and fomo. Old artwork and all.

As is, thry seem to aim at a more complete game.

New rulebook, a couple of new models per army and a battalion box.

Plus some resin upgrade kits for specific regions.

 Mr Morden wrote:
Given the links with CA/Total War - they developed entire Army books for them - it probably does not help that CA has tried to destroy itself with "Hyenas" and Sega are slicing them to pieces as a tax write off.

CA brought that on themselves though with questionable leadership and even worse developpers not wanting to state the higher ups the facts.

Not Online!!! wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
Given the links with CA/Total War - they developed entire Army books for them - it probably does not help that CA has tried to destroy itself with "Hyenas" and Sega are slicing them to pieces as a tax write off.

CA brought that on themselves though with questionable leadership and even worse developpers not wanting to state the higher ups the facts.

Pretty much I said but yeah

Apparently this is the assembled Pegasus seen on the leaked sprue. If Valrak is accurate, this will be for the hero in the new box set.

I don't know if it's just the build/angle, but those wings look absurdly big. And the mane looks weird. But other than that looks alright.

It's fine. If that's the only new plastic then I'd be tempted to wait until it's available on its own (or get it second hand).

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
I don't know if it's just the build/angle, but those wings look absurdly big. And the mane looks weird. But other than that looks alright.

the guy building it mentions on reddit that the wings are lot bigger than from other Warhammer models, so not just the angle

Inquisitor Gideon wrote:I don't know if it's just the build/angle, but those wings look absurdly big. And the mane looks weird. But other than that looks alright.

kodos wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
I don't know if it's just the build/angle, but those wings look absurdly big. And the mane looks weird. But other than that looks alright.

the guy building it mentions on reddit that the wings are lot bigger than from other Warhammer models, so not just the angle

In order for something the size and weight of a horse to fly, it will need very large wings.


If anything pretty much every winged miniature in wfb history has comically tiny wings for their size.

Since it won't be on a 40mm square base anymore, it should be fine. Besides, previous pegasus was nice and all, but no way its small wings could have supported its body in flight. Just joking, it's fantasy, horses that can fly are already silly.

 Hellebore wrote:

Inquisitor Gideon wrote:I don't know if it's just the build/angle, but those wings look absurdly big. And the mane looks weird. But other than that looks alright.

kodos wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
I don't know if it's just the build/angle, but those wings look absurdly big. And the mane looks weird. But other than that looks alright.

the guy building it mentions on reddit that the wings are lot bigger than from other Warhammer models, so not just the angle

In order for something the size and weight of a horse to fly, it will need very large wings.


If anything pretty much every winged miniature in wfb history has comically tiny wings for their size.

While true, various scientists have done the math on pegasi over the years. It just doesn't work. Winged humans are (barely) within the tolerances of physics (with some liberties taken for the muscle arrangements that would be necessary), but horses are right out.

The trend toward larger wings on warhammer models is definitely a good one, though. It helps the grim reality of the setting if they aren't as common as dirt, and something everyone sees in large numbers in every army muster.

Lets face it for a long time horses and dragons were just smaller to save on materials and the cost of producing moulds. If you look at a lot of more modern GW mounted models the mounts themselves are much better sized for their riders. There was a period where every horse or mythical mount was basically ponysized.

Wings too were often much smaller and even now you won't get fully realistically sized wings unfolded because they take up a huge amount of space.


That said with GW able to make bigger stuff viably now I do like to see some decently sized wings

Mozzamanx wrote:

Spoiler:

Apparently this is the assembled Pegasus seen on the leaked sprue. If Valrak is accurate, this will be for the hero in the new box set.

Good looking model. Right mix of fantastic and mundane elements. I am positive towards the aestethics of ToW.

 Hellebore wrote:
In order for something the size and weight of a horse to fly, it will need very large wings.
If anything pretty much every winged miniature in wfb history has comically tiny wings for their size.

yeah, either actually wings with which the model would be able to fly, which are still way too small on that model
or just skip the "realistic" for magical creatures completely

either make it realistic or not comical wings at least should be fitting the model and be a disadvantage for gaming

I don't NEED a 3rd Pegasus Hero, but I sure do want one. Guess there's a reason I chose Parravon for my Bretonnians...

I really like that Pegasus. Shame I’m fresh out of kidneys to sell.

Yeah, the old wings didn't seem so small when they were made out of metal and you were trying to get them to stick to the torso with super glue. Sometimes I imagine all these fantasy worlds just have atmospheres filled with high amounts of a really heavy gas. So dragons can fly and people can do high backflips and such with ease.

 triplegrim wrote:

Mozzamanx wrote:

Spoiler:

Apparently this is the assembled Pegasus seen on the leaked sprue. If Valrak is accurate, this will be for the hero in the new box set.

Good looking model. Right mix of fantastic and mundane elements. I am positive towards the aestethics of ToW.

I think all the new models look great, which makes the decision to bring back old ugly ones even more stupid. Excited to see what plastic kit tomb kings get

The new Peg looks great, I wish the wings were smaller though, for gaming and storage purposes.

I remember hating the old Pegasus knight wings because they are so tiny, but after gaming with and transporting around other models with bigger wings I grew to appreciate them.

Allegedly the tactical rock is optional and there's an option to have it in the air on a flight stand

Flying version? Didn't the sprue have two different heads? Maybe the flying one uses an alternate head that could potentially be angled differently.

Until now I thought since pegasus sprue didn't have any gates to other sprues it would be a standalone sprue that could be sold with multiple rider sprues to make different kits. (like how HH does it with many kits in that most of the sprues are the same but a few are swapped out to make different vehicles)
But I just thought of another solution. What if the rider is in resin? Since everything else they showed until now was resin it wouldn't surprise me and the rider would have more details then the pegasus so would make sense.

 Matrindur wrote:
Until now I thought since pegasus sprue didn't have any gates to other sprues it would be a standalone sprue that could be sold with multiple rider sprues to make different kits. (like how HH does it with many kits in that most of the sprues are the same but a few are swapped out to make different vehicles)
But I just thought of another solution. What if the rider is in resin? Since everything else they showed until now was resin it wouldn't surprise me and the rider would have more details then the pegasus so would make sense.

That's not how GW/FW does hybrid kits. Hybrid kits are done as upgrades to plastic retail kits, which means the Pegasus is either designed to be riderless(doubtful) or there's a sprue we haven't seen with at least one rider.

HH has had kits split up specifically to allow for modularity. Mount as one sprue and then rider as a seperate sprue. Then mix and match as needed- say a Pegasus kit with a lord rider, then a later horse mount reusing the same lord sprue to make ground cav version.

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Matrindur wrote:
Until now I thought since pegasus sprue didn't have any gates to other sprues it would be a standalone sprue that could be sold with multiple rider sprues to make different kits. (like how HH does it with many kits in that most of the sprues are the same but a few are swapped out to make different vehicles)
But I just thought of another solution. What if the rider is in resin? Since everything else they showed until now was resin it wouldn't surprise me and the rider would have more details then the pegasus so would make sense.

That's not how GW/FW does hybrid kits. Hybrid kits are done as upgrades to plastic retail kits, which means the Pegasus is either designed to be riderless(doubtful) or there's a sprue we haven't seen with at least one rider.

Not how they have done in the past but doesn't mean it couldn't happen in the future. Of course its likelier its just to be used with different plastic riders but I just wanted to share the thought

So, I'm not familiar with the old kits. Looking at the shiny new horsey, is it just me or do the feathers close to the torso extend very far to the back? Do we think the shadowy area behind them offers enough room for the rider's legs? It looks kind of strange to me, like it's not meant to take a normal rider. Or maybe that's just the angle.

Looks like a nice sculpt, though.

 Geifer wrote:
So, I'm not familiar with the old kits. Looking at the shiny new horsey, is it just me or do the feathers close to the torso extend very far to the back? Do we think the shadowy area behind them offers enough room for the rider's legs? It looks kind of strange to me, like it's not meant to take a normal rider. Or maybe that's just the angle.

Looks like a nice sculpt, though.

From this angle it looks like the rider is supposed to sit on an elevated saddle of some sort.

 Ohman wrote:

From this angle it looks like the rider is supposed to sit on an elevated saddle of some sort.

Spoiler:

Yeah, there appear to be a couple seat back options on the sprue. I am not sure how that would rank up, though.

Thanks, Ohman! I didn't even consider a chair mounted on the pegasus. That's usually been something GW reserved for larger beasties.

 Scottywan82 wrote:

 Ohman wrote:

From this angle it looks like the rider is supposed to sit on an elevated saddle of some sort.

Spoiler:

Yeah, there appear to be a couple seat back options on the sprue. I am not sure how that would rank up, though.

If it's anything like the older pegasus knights, they just fething won't