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 Gallahad wrote:
Are we thinking the Chaos Mauraders reinforcement box will come out in December? Or after the new year?

I need to save up!

We're going to probably get Darkwater for pre-order in two weeks, and then we're into December stuff, generally the slower part of the release cycle. I'm guessing (and also hoping!) that it's going to be 2026.

 SgtEeveell wrote:

Astmeister wrote:A friend of mine brought a 40 block of old orc metal warriors to a game.
He put it on a scale and it weight about 5 kg.

So, about as much as one 40K old-style Marine Dreadnaught.

Old metal dread are not that bad. Would not want to be hit with a dreadsock, but they are only a bit over 200grams.

Dual purpose you get a workout at the same time

Where is my 5th Ed Brets MTO damn it. Still may grab some of the old Empire stuff though.

Damn, I was hoping for the metal Greatswords, too.

It's interesting how much of these MTOs are 4th or 5th ed, bypassing anything from 6th onwards.

I wonder if their metrics indicate their fanbase are so old that they have nostalgia for the 90s era models, rather than the 2000s?

 Hellebore wrote:
It's interesting how much of these MTOs are 4th or 5th ed, bypassing anything from 6th onwards.

I wonder if their metrics indicate their fanbase are so old that they have nostalgia for the 90s era models, rather than the 2000s?

Well, some of those 6th Ed models are just on general release (Brets, Tomb Kings). It might depend on molds available (perhaps the older ones were just stashed in a cupboard somewhere, while the 6th Ed ones got binned?). Or that the older ones have enough of a distinct aesthetic, while the 6th and 7th are just deemed to close to not bother (for the Empire Greatswords for example).

The newest empire metal greatswords from 6th are amazing. I just bought another 5 from ebay.
I also don't understand why they don't release them. Probably because they would show that they actually look much better than the recent plastic kit.
Same for four dark elves executioners and others.

However most of the 6th plastic releases are not good. Imho they can skip them.

Those old Metal Dreads are pretty hefty, but they pale in comparison to the old Metal Steam Tank.

If chucked at someone's head it could easily take them out.

 Commodus Leitdorf wrote:
Those old Metal Dreads are pretty hefty, but they pale in comparison to the old Metal Steam Tank.

If chucked at someone's head it could easily take them out.

Just call it wat it is, the metal steam tank is just a shot for the real steamtank

Cant say I enjoy the look of older/metal Empire guys, and dont have the nostalgia for that range.
But I really like all the 6th edtion plastics for Empire

Not Online!!! wrote:

 Commodus Leitdorf wrote:
Those old Metal Dreads are pretty hefty, but they pale in comparison to the old Metal Steam Tank.

If chucked at someone's head it could easily take them out.

Just call it wat it is, the metal steam tank is just a shot for the real steamtank

Heh.

The most lethal projectile in the old world was the stegodon. Giant chunk of spiked metal. Plus skink shrapnel.

Blood Bowl immediately followed by Warhammer Quest with mortgage payment worth of Empire Oldhammer metals in-between? Followed by Norse Marauders for Christmas?

That ain't right.

Fortunately I got all my Oldhammer metals after Age of Sigmar came out ten years ago. I like to think the Warhammer Gods were rewarding me for my dedication by letting me get ahold of all that stuff for a quarter of the price you now have to pay Games Workshop to get them to make new ones for you. I sincerely hope even the stans have given up the "this is just what costs them" arguments to the far more sane "they love money and price accordingly" arguments.

I will get all of those Empire-models. Love everything from 4:th edition and I'm hoping all of these MTOs are super succesful so GW keep doing them. My dream is for a Halfling MTO but since they are not in the new army list I fear it will remain a dream.

 Fayric wrote:
Cant say I enjoy the look of older/metal Empire guys, and dont have the nostalgia for that range.
But I really like all the 6th edtion plastics for Empire

Same here...

I wished they MTO the 2000 Plastic States Troops.

RazorEdge wrote:
Same here...

I wished they MTO the 2000 Plastic States Troops.

I would go bankrupt if they re-released those old swordsmen/halberdiers sprues.

Me too.... :(

 Dawnbringer wrote:
Where is my 5th Ed Brets MTO damn it. Still may grab some of the old Empire stuff though.

They did a bunch of the peasants a few months ago (which I'm sure you're already aware of) but the knights would certainly be appreciated. Infinitely better than the blocky Lego knights from 6th.

 KidCthulhu wrote:

RazorEdge wrote:
Same here...

I wished they MTO the 2000 Plastic States Troops.

I would go bankrupt if they re-released those old swordsmen/halberdiers sprues.

I've found a number of really great 3d print options that I like even better than the old state troops (as awesome as that box was). Check out Reptilian Overlords stuff. They are really really great. Not plastic, but the sculpting, poses, and detail are much better in my opinion.

 Hellebore wrote:
It's interesting how much of these MTOs are 4th or 5th ed, bypassing anything from 6th onwards.

I wonder if their metrics indicate their fanbase are so old that they have nostalgia for the 90s era models, rather than the 2000s?

Warhammer - The Old Men

I have a feeling that it's because the 2000's is the era of more and more units becoming plastic and it's easier for them to free up the metal casting machines than the plastic ones for MTOs.

 Gallahad wrote:

 KidCthulhu wrote:

RazorEdge wrote:
Same here...

I wished they MTO the 2000 Plastic States Troops.

I would go bankrupt if they re-released those old swordsmen/halberdiers sprues.

I've found a number of really great 3d print options that I like even better than the old state troops (as awesome as that box was). Check out Reptilian Overlords stuff. They are really really great. Not plastic, but the sculpting, poses, and detail are much better in my opinion.

I backed a KS lately called Grand Provinces that fits this army https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1363239937/the-grand-empire-3d-printable-miniature-stls/rewards

I'm debating hard with myself about getting the MTO empire stuff or not

On one hand, I have a large enough army with lots of troops (the cool 6th edition plastic). On the other hands, sexy 4th edition metal models are my jam, and I really like the look of those!

Ideally it would be one of everything, plus extra Halberdiers set for a full unit! Add to that a friend of mine gave me his WH+ voucher (probably like 10$), so a little extra incentive to use it there!

On a unrelated note, I really like the red and yellow they got on them! Look really lively!

Anyone else going to use the MTO models for Renegade Crowns only?

I asked about when you can order the 4th edition empire guys in the youtube comments

 Dawnbringer wrote:
Where is my 5th Ed Brets MTO damn it. Still may grab some of the old Empire stuff though.

To clarify, they did do MTO for the infantry (and squires / yeomen are in the current range.) What I want to see is all the old metal knights. Trying to track down all 13(?) variations of Questing Knight the Perry's did back in the day is impossible.

 Astmeister wrote:
I asked about when you can order the 4th edition empire guys in the youtube comments

Classic GW social media team 'we have no idea' stock answer

If they were to show them this Sunday, does that mean they only come for pre-order the next Saturday then?

Yes.

Those old Empire models are gorgeous. I agree that the yellow and red Talabecland color scheme looks great.

I’d like to have nearly all of them, but I’ll try to stick to some kind of budget so I don’t go overboard.

The answer to me sounds more like they are definitely going in pre order next week Saturday.