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Tsagualsa wrote:

Lithe dude/dudette standing on the back of bulky dude..

Neurothropes already done that
Heck technically Tyranids have been doing that for ages, Andrenal Glands, Toxin Sacs and all guns are living parts that graft on.

Tsagualsa wrote:

Centerpiece dude on scenic base surrounded by hanger-ons and abbeyants.

Tervigon
Also technically Tyranids have been doing that for ages, if you ever run out of the need for more Ripper bases you can just put rippers on random Tyranid bases

Tsagualsa wrote:

Creature with way too wide shoulders and torso on skimpy lower body and legs.

Hive tyrant (esp original metal one and the 3rd edition one); Zoanthrope original - massive head!; Screamer Killer - granted its not quite there with the shoulder pads but makes up for it with two upper arm sets of bit scythes.

Tsagualsa wrote:

Centerpiece character on a howdah/throne/catafalque paraded around by normal dudes/monsters.

Ok granted my first thought was "ooh sounds like a Patriarch for the Cult";

 Overread wrote:

Tsagualsa wrote:

Centerpiece character on a howdah/throne/catafalque paraded around by normal dudes/monsters.

Ok granted my first thought was "ooh sounds like a Patriarch for the Cult";

My first thought was this:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/downloads/#warhammer-40000

The Dark Angels, Blood Angels,and Black Templars ones are new yes?

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 Valkyrie wrote:
New Deathleaper

Not the best model I've seen, certainly not the worse.

Finally, Nids are the last faction to get capes for its characters. I hope there's one with a trenchcoat too.

Honestly, though, I'll confess that I quite like the bio-cape.

 kurhanik wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/downloads/#warhammer-40000

The Dark Angels, Blood Angels,and Black Templars ones are new yes?

Yeah, and they forgot deathwatch.

 ProfSrlojohn wrote:

 kurhanik wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/downloads/#warhammer-40000

The Dark Angels, Blood Angels,and Black Templars ones are new yes?

Yeah, and they forgot deathwatch.

Don't worry, I'm sure there'll be a white dwarf in a couple of months with our index.

 cole1114 wrote:
It got mentioned during one of the show matches that there's a designer commentary coming that'll clarify you can only take two characters per squad, even with all extra rules added on.

That's why the rules are stuff like "Apothecary can join a unit with a captain or chapter master or lieutenant" rather than and/or.

Oh, right. I assumed as much and read the original post incorrectly. Sorry!


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Other marines are up.

Give me my Company Veterans back.

What a derpy looking Deathleaper

Dark Angels appear to be the 'anti-battleshock' army.

 Kothra wrote:
Give me my Company Veterans back.

They're still there, they've just (somewhat inexplicably) been rolled into the Command Squad.

tondier wrote:

 ProfSrlojohn wrote:

 kurhanik wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/downloads/#warhammer-40000

The Dark Angels, Blood Angels,and Black Templars ones are new yes?

Yeah, and they forgot deathwatch.

Don't worry, I'm sure there'll be a white dwarf in a couple of months with our index.

THe thing got leaked, it's just not been uploaded.

anyway, here's the armory card they told us to wait for:



gag Shotgun, stalker bolter, all the pistols, all the heavy weapons besides the Missile launcher, special weapons, all gone! Can't even build them like they tell you to in the fething kit, since you can't have a bol-pardon "long vigil ranged weapon" and a Powe-Long vigil ranged weapon either.

EDIT: now it is: https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/oNwkFTe6jFmHZ148.pdf

lmao, i am NOT parsing that gak

Deathwatch belong in killteam, not in full-on 40k.

 Nazrak wrote:

 Kothra wrote:
Give me my Company Veterans back.

They're still there, they've just (somewhat inexplicably) been rolled into the Command Squad.

You can only take 2 in that squad. I can't even add extra veterans to pad it out.

I'd have to run my squad as Sternguard which means no more Razorback (which I bought just for them).

I had a feelling things would turn out like this after seeing the Marine rules on Friday but it's still disappointing.

 VladimirHerzog wrote:
lmao, i am NOT parsing that gak

Deathwatch belong in killteam, not in full-on 40k.

it's a really complicated way to say they can only have a melee weapon (this includes claws and hammers in one statline) and a bolter; a shield, bolter, and CCW; or a combi-weapon statline (this includes pistols, storm bolter, shotgun, stalker bolter, special weapons combi-weapons and presumably the missing heavy weapons). and a CCW. 2 can have hammers, 2 can heavy one of thew three heavy weapons

I have a unit of power sword and combat shield DA vets. Now they can be vanguard vets on foot with heirloom weapons and storm shield, and I might just attach Ezekiel to them 😁

 ProfSrlojohn wrote:

 VladimirHerzog wrote:
lmao, i am NOT parsing that gak

Deathwatch belong in killteam, not in full-on 40k.

it's a really complicated way to say they can only have a melee weapon (this includes claws and hammers in one statline) and a bolter; a shield, bolter, and CCW; or a combi-weapon statline (this includes pistols, storm bolter, shotgun, stalker bolter, special weapons combi-weapons and presumably the missing heavy weapons). and a CCW. 2 can have hammers, 2 can heavy one of thew three heavy weapons

even your "less complicated" way of explaining it made my eyes glaze over.

It's a super cool concept for a faction, i just find that its design clashes with the scale of the game

BA Index looking bland AF

Let me guess, if I want to field my JP Death Company unit, I must use the Sons Of Sanguinius detachment rules? But I can still use datasheets from Index SM, correct?

 VladimirHerzog wrote:

 ProfSrlojohn wrote:

 VladimirHerzog wrote:
lmao, i am NOT parsing that gak

Deathwatch belong in killteam, not in full-on 40k.

it's a really complicated way to say they can only have a melee weapon (this includes claws and hammers in one statline) and a bolter; a shield, bolter, and CCW; or a combi-weapon statline (this includes pistols, storm bolter, shotgun, stalker bolter, special weapons combi-weapons and presumably the missing heavy weapons). and a CCW. 2 can have hammers, 2 can heavy one of thew three heavy weapons

even you "less complicated" way of explaining it made my eyes glaze over.

It's a super cool concept for a faction, i just find that its design clashes with the scale of the game

That's because they over complicated the rules. Before it was "all vets got a bolter and power weapon, can swap those for melee and ranged weapons as you like, no doubling shotguns, stalkers, storm bolters and combi weapons" Sarge got a xenophase blade as an extra option, 1 in 5 could take a heavy weapon, and one in five could take the heavy thunder hammer, and that's it.

Anyone know when Grey Knights will be available as a full data set?

 tauist wrote:
BA Index looking bland AF

Let me guess, if I want to field my JP Death Company unit, I must use the Sons Of Sanguinius detachment rules? But I can still use datasheets from Index SM, correct?

It gives the restrictions at the top.

That one Dark Angels stratagem needs a FAQ ASAP (or a general rule that Damage can't be reduced to zero), otherwise it's way too strong for 1 CP.

Unbreakable Lines...


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KirvesUK wrote:
Anyone know when Grey Knights will be available as a full data set?

With the other Imperium stuff on the 14th.

So are Black Templars just able to take 6 of each Primaris tank (3 of each can take multi-meltas)?

Wings of Sanguinius is nice: turn 1 deep strike for one infantry unit.
Agressors with flamers, terminators or maybe an big foot melee unit.
Perfect to hurt an ennemy unit or take an objectif.

Tsagualsa wrote:
That one Dark Angels stratagem needs a FAQ ASAP (or a general rule that Damage can't be reduced to zero), otherwise it's way too strong for 1 CP.

What I want to know is why DG pays 2 for the same strat.

DA termies get the same thing among several other instances of stuff like this that will be in the designer's commentary.

 Kothra wrote:
So are Black Templars just able to take 6 of each Primaris tank (3 of each can take multi-meltas)?

Thats what this is for:

Your army cannot include any Adeptus Astartes Psyker models, and cannot include any of the following models that do not have the Black Templars keyword:
Gladiator Lancer; Gladiator Reaper; Gladiator Valiant; Impulsor; Repulsor; Repulsor Executioner.

So, Space Wolves terminators can mix cyclone launchers with lightning claws, but Dark Angels can not. Damn you GW.

 Matrindur wrote:

 Kothra wrote:
So are Black Templars just able to take 6 of each Primaris tank (3 of each can take multi-meltas)?

Thats what this is for:

Your army cannot include any Adeptus Astartes Psyker models, and cannot include any of the following models that do not have the Black Templars keyword:
Gladiator Lancer; Gladiator Reaper; Gladiator Valiant; Impulsor; Repulsor; Repulsor Executioner.

Oh ok, I kind of skipped through the first few pages.

 cuda1179 wrote:
So, Space Wolves terminators can mix cyclone launchers with lightning claws, but Dark Angels can not. Damn you GW.

always been that way, at least they are consistent with that over years......

Dreyf wrote:
Wings of Sanguinius is nice: turn 1 deep strike for one infantry unit.
Agressors with flamers, terminators or maybe an big foot melee unit.
Perfect to hurt an ennemy unit or take an objectif.

I'm not seeing that Strat - do I have a wrong version of the Index pdf?