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Looking at the Leapers…Veepers… shown next to the Sisters melee loons I think these are comfortably Warrior sized.

Voss wrote:

That... hmm. Tentacles and mandibles which look oversized, the chest torso looks weird, and hooves look like dedicated stompers, not a leaping thing.

Last thoughts of a quizzical guardsmen before being eaten.

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Much as I hope this is a dual kit I get the feeling that these will be a unit of 3 in the launch box (and that everything we see in the run up to Warhammer Fest will be for the launch box). That said if these are pack hunters in units of three and the Lictor is a lone assassin I could see a Lictor as one of the Easy to Build kits.

 Souleater wrote:
Looking at the Leapers…Veepers… shown next to the Sisters melee loons I think these are comfortably Warrior sized.

For context:

Lictors will be bigger & bigger base & sold individually. I doubt they’ll make a 3 pack of leapers contain a whole additional sprue (bigger legs & torso) to make a single lictor & leave 2 leapers leftover (whereas they run in packs of 3)… imho

Dudeface wrote:

 Souleater wrote:
Looking at the Leapers…Veepers… shown next to the Sisters melee loons I think these are comfortably Warrior sized.

For context:

Spoiler:

More I look them more I am convinced that they were inspired by 2nd edition Hormagaunts look.

Grzzldgamerps5 wrote:
I doubt they’ll make a 3 pack of leapers contain a whole additional sprue (bigger legs & torso) to make a single lictor & leave 2 leapers leftover (whereas they run in packs of 3)… imho

They did exactly that with Zoanthropes. Box of 3, unit size 3-6, build one as a Neurothrope.

The only reason I think Lictors will be related to this kit is just because they are so Lictor-like in their head and talon design, and about Lictor sized as well. It would seem odd to have a not-a-Lictor and a Lictor in completely separate kits.

Kinda like them but there is just too much going on with the face(?). Too much tentacle.

'So what if we took a Lictor and smashed it into a Warrior at high speed..?'
'Frank, you're a genius!'

 Shadow Walker wrote:

Dudeface wrote:

 Souleater wrote:
Looking at the Leapers…Veepers… shown next to the Sisters melee loons I think these are comfortably Warrior sized.

For context:

Spoiler:

More I look them more I am convinced that they were inspired by 2nd edition Hormagaunts look.

Wonder if they were inspired by the Mahir Leaper lore as well.

It would be really cool to see Vanguard-adapted "normal" Tyranids.


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 catbarf wrote:

Grzzldgamerps5 wrote:
I doubt they’ll make a 3 pack of leapers contain a whole additional sprue (bigger legs & torso) to make a single lictor & leave 2 leapers leftover (whereas they run in packs of 3)… imho

They did exactly that with Zoanthropes. Box of 3, unit size 3-6, build one as a Neurothrope.

The only reason I think Lictors will be related to this kit is just because they are so Lictor-like in their head and talon design, and about Lictor sized as well. It would seem odd to have a not-a-Lictor and a Lictor in completely separate kits.

Not if you think of it in terms of army construction/lore.

We know Tyranids adapt. Having Warriors adapted to function alongside of Vanguard creatures would be an interesting bit.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Wonder if they were inspired by the Mahir Leaper lore as well.

Mahir ones were said to have hardened carapace which reminds me of the ''new/updated?'' gaunt like creatures from the 10th trailer.

 Sotahullu wrote:
Kinda like them but there is just too much going on with the face(?). Too much tentacle.

I don't understand the face. So it's a top jaw leading into mandibles leading into tentacles?

Didn't one of the rumours say Hormagaunts now have mandibles as well? Perhaps they saw these dudes, or maybe they have them as well?

 catbarf wrote:

Grzzldgamerps5 wrote:
I doubt they’ll make a 3 pack of leapers contain a whole additional sprue (bigger legs & torso) to make a single lictor & leave 2 leapers leftover (whereas they run in packs of 3)… imho

They did exactly that with Zoanthropes. Box of 3, unit size 3-6, build one as a Neurothrope.

The only reason I think Lictors will be related to this kit is just because they are so Lictor-like in their head and talon design, and about Lictor sized as well. It would seem odd to have a not-a-Lictor and a Lictor in completely separate kits.

Looking at pics again, you might be right. The spiked head one might discern it as either a lone lictor or the leader of the leaper pack….

I don't like the appendages protruding from the upper jaw. They resemble vestigial arms instead of anything related to a mandible.

 Breotan wrote:
I don't like the appendages protruding from the upper jaw. They resemble vestigial arms instead of anything related to a mandible.

They're probably supposed to be something like chelicera, but their appearance on the model does not work too well.

Historically the Lictor has always had a very busy upper mouth that kind of defies what we'd understand as a proper mouth assembly.

I’m seeing them as mandibles evolved to hold the head steady when it’s Brain Soup O’Clock, freeing the other limbs up for.

Yeah and I think the mechanics of plastic and having them protruding on their own not just nestled close to the tentacles means that they are a bit thicker than one might expect to see them in reality.

Not going to bother dissecting in detail how disappointing this kit is.
I'm afraid to confirm that my concerns with the images on the video would translate into something just like what was revealed today.

Seen much better fan conversions on this type of Nid which is revealing on how poor this official sculpt turned out to be. It's not a scary menacing creature at all, it's a bubble head, messy, fat creature.

2nd kit revealed and its an easy pass.

 NAVARRO wrote:
Not going to bother dissecting in detail how disappointing this kit is.
I'm afraid to confirm that my concerns with the images on the video would translate into something just like what was revealed today.

Seen much better fan conversions on this type of Nid which is revealing on how poor this official sculpt turned out to be. It's not a scary menacing creature at all, it's a bubble head, messy, fat creature.

2nd kit revealed and its an easy pass.

Well if the same body mass as an intercessor for a 8ft tall alien crustacen is "fat" I think that's a you problem

Dudeface wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:
Not going to bother dissecting in detail how disappointing this kit is.
I'm afraid to confirm that my concerns with the images on the video would translate into something just like what was revealed today.

Seen much better fan conversions on this type of Nid which is revealing on how poor this official sculpt turned out to be. It's not a scary menacing creature at all, it's a bubble head, messy, fat creature.

2nd kit revealed and its an easy pass.

Well if the same body mass as an intercessor for a 8ft tall alien crustacen is "fat" I think that's a you problem

If you bother reading the comments here and on the 40k new ed thread you would see its a several people problem...

 Breotan wrote:
I don't like the appendages protruding from the upper jaw. They resemble vestigial arms instead of anything related to a mandible.

I get a real halo covenant & predator mouth vibe so far…


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 NAVARRO wrote:
Not going to bother dissecting in detail how disappointing this kit is.
I'm afraid to confirm that my concerns with the images on the video would translate into something just like what was revealed today.

Seen much better fan conversions on this type of Nid which is revealing on how poor this official sculpt turned out to be. It's not a scary menacing creature at all, it's a bubble head, messy, fat creature.

2nd kit revealed and its an easy pass.

I’m totally digging the leapers! Like where it’s all going so far!

 NAVARRO wrote:

Dudeface wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:
Not going to bother dissecting in detail how disappointing this kit is.
I'm afraid to confirm that my concerns with the images on the video would translate into something just like what was revealed today.

Seen much better fan conversions on this type of Nid which is revealing on how poor this official sculpt turned out to be. It's not a scary menacing creature at all, it's a bubble head, messy, fat creature.

2nd kit revealed and its an easy pass.

Well if the same body mass as an intercessor for a 8ft tall alien crustacen is "fat" I think that's a you problem

If you bother reading the comments here and on the 40k new ed thread you would see its a several people problem...

Nah, some people haven't liked the mouth assembly, some have criticised the almost 2nd Ed throwback look, but you're the only one calling them fat so far.

Dudeface wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:

If you bother reading the comments here and on the 40k new ed thread you would see its a several people problem...

Nah, some people haven't liked the mouth assembly, some have criticised the almost 2nd Ed throwback look, but you're the only one calling them fat so far.

Er...

 vipoid wrote:

Also, is it me or are they a little chunky? Looks like the Hive Mind needs to exercise them a little more.

 vipoid wrote:

Dudeface wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:

If you bother reading the comments here and on the 40k new ed thread you would see its a several people problem...

Nah, some people haven't liked the mouth assembly, some have criticised the almost 2nd Ed throwback look, but you're the only one calling them fat so far.

Er...

 vipoid wrote:

Also, is it me or are they a little chunky? Looks like the Hive Mind needs to exercise them a little more.

Missed that, my bad, let the crustacean fat shame club continue.

Yep kinda digging this new reveal here!

Would have liked a new Lictor, but then I already have like 5 or 6 of those (lost count), so the new Leapers are a welcome addition and something new!

Unless they radically change the Lictors themselves, you could straight up use the Leapers as Lictors, or get some of your Lictors and use them as Leapers. Curious to see what gonna be up with them.

Role-wise, I guess those could fill the scout/infiltrator/forward deployment role quite well. They could then relegate the Lictors/Deatleaper as assassin back again (and be dangerous in that role).

I don't like the spider mandibles they have, but I don't know if that's the model or the fact I don't like spiders.

As someone who has been in and out of Tyranid armies since 3rd edition I'm loving the von Ryan's Leapers. They're clearly a form of smaller lictor in design, but the second set of talons screams influence from the 2nd edition Hormagant to me which I also like. I'm really excited to see how they'll deliver the rest of new Tyranid stuff we'll be getting.