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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/05/16 22:58:19
Subject: The Return of Epic in 2023?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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gorgon wrote:artific3r wrote: gorgon wrote:
It's possible. I mean, if we're going to overanalyze that little teaser, the amount of units you see could easily represent a regular 30K battlefield.
What regular 30k units have long stick bases like that?
Didn't we just cover that a couple of pages ago? They aren't bases, they're military map symbols.
I think this *probably* is some kind of small-scale something, but it's still possible that some of you are setting yourself up for disappointment here.

If you want to get pedantic about it fine, but in the context of GW games, have they ever used that style of military map symbol for anything other than regimented blocks of models with square bases?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/05/17 06:01:37
Subject: Re:The Return of Epic in 2023?
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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Yes! I think I saw a 40k batrep in a white dwarf, back in the days when ork stick bombaz was a unit. A big unit of those was represented by a rectangle!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/05/17 08:41:33
Subject: The Return of Epic in 2023?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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poretty sure I remember WD battle reports for Space Marine where units were depicted as Napoleonic style rectangles with arrows a few times
at a guess because such was quite easy to draw
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/05/17 08:58:30
Subject: The Return of Epic in 2023?
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
On an Express Elevator to Hell!!
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Yes they were, very similar to that with individual units (titans, super heavies) as circles.
So were WHFB battle reports though, so perhaps one indicator is that it is a 'base' of units. Are we setting ourselves up for a fall here? New Apocalypse 30k, where you get movement trays for your squad of 20 Mk6 marines
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/05/17 18:39:08
Subject: Re:The Return of Epic in 2023?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Oh Jebus Crisps, how could we have been so short sighted...
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/05/17/skulls-2023-returns-next-week-with-rahul-kohli-as-host/
...its going to be an amazingly crap mobile game!
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Casual gaming, mostly solo-coop these days.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/05/17 19:08:49
Subject: The Return of Epic in 2023?
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[DCM]
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Don't even joke about it like that!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/05/17 19:39:52
Subject: The Return of Epic in 2023?
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Fixture of Dakka
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I'd be up for a Final Liberation II
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/05/17 20:02:01
Subject: Re:The Return of Epic in 2023?
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Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
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Hi there. Well to my point of view...if they are going to remake epic...then it should use all factions even primaris...to sell more products and make a community like kill team...but if we are basing just in horus (that looks like marines painted in two colors) then it could be just a board game.
Theres even a web who posted the supposedly contents of the boxes and just pure marines (if you paint it yellow then are good guys and if you paint it red are bad guys...yay)
And i hope is not a stupid video game lol i preffer tiny units than big ones....hell i stop playing 40k becouse primaris screw my 10k point army of bluemarines....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/05/17 20:47:51
Subject: The Return of Epic in 2023?
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[DCM]
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OK good point - and actually, so would I!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/05/18 05:18:33
Subject: The Return of Epic in 2023?
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Been Around the Block
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Yes, but not unless it looks significantly better than that teaser trailer.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/05/18 06:39:09
Subject: The Return of Epic in 2023?
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
On an Express Elevator to Hell!!
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Some big weight there with Boltgun, if they are headlining that above Space Marine 2 and the new Total War, which will probably be one of the biggest PC games of the year!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/05/18 09:30:36
Subject: The Return of Epic in 2023?
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Posts with Authority
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I don't get Boltgun, it feels like a small indie game but yet is drummed up like they are expecting it to be a AAA title?
Personally, I have zero lust towards reteo games such as Boltgun.. if I want to play retro games, I fire up my emulators
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"The larger point though, is that as players, we have more control over what the game looks and feels like than most of us are willing to use in order to solve our own problems" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/05/18 09:33:18
Subject: The Return of Epic in 2023?
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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tauist wrote:I don't get Boltgun, it feels like a small indie game but yet is drummed up like they are expecting it to be a AAA title?
Personally, I have zero lust towards reteo games such as Boltgun.. if I want to play retro games, I fire up my emulators
It’s entirely possible they just really enjoyed it themselves. I mean, Doom gone 40K has an appeal being retro, because even today, Doom 2 remains a fun run and gun FPS.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/05/18 09:38:35
Subject: The Return of Epic in 2023?
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Terrifying Wraith
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It's got top billing because it's out next week and sales in the first week or two are where game studios make the majority of their profit. I'm amped for it, it looks like a lot of fun and it's reasonably priced.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/05/18 09:47:08
Subject: The Return of Epic in 2023?
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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tauist wrote:I don't get Boltgun, it feels like a small indie game but yet is drummed up like they are expecting it to be a AAA title?
Personally, I have zero lust towards reteo games such as Boltgun.. if I want to play retro games, I fire up my emulators
I think it's simply that you can buy Boltgun now, while you can buy Space Marine II sometime later, i.e. not-now. Nothing prevents them from doing a hype event for SM2 later, but with their general approach they always favor the one bird in the hand over two in the bush.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/05/18 09:49:59
Subject: The Return of Epic in 2023?
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Posts with Authority
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Tsagualsa wrote: tauist wrote:I don't get Boltgun, it feels like a small indie game but yet is drummed up like they are expecting it to be a AAA title?
Personally, I have zero lust towards reteo games such as Boltgun.. if I want to play retro games, I fire up my emulators
I think it's simply that you can buy Boltgun now, while you can buy Space Marine II sometime later, i.e. not-now. Nothing prevents them from doing a hype event for SM2 later, but with their general approach they always favor the one bird in the hand over two in the bush.
yeah, fair enough.. at GW, the product coming out next is always the "best thing ever", so only logical the same would apply to licensed games
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"The larger point though, is that as players, we have more control over what the game looks and feels like than most of us are willing to use in order to solve our own problems" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/05/18 09:52:59
Subject: The Return of Epic in 2023?
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Dakka Veteran
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It’s only fair to their third parties too - get your game to release, you get your time in the sun.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/05/18 09:58:05
Subject: The Return of Epic in 2023?
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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MaxT wrote:It’s only fair to their third parties too - get your game to release, you get your time in the sun.
In the gaming industry you get extremely short windows for making your sales anyway if you're not a triple-AAA title mainstream press and streamers can't shut up about - a couple of weeks when your reviews are somewhere on the front pages of magazines and portals, and that's it. You can later do tentpole DLC or sales, but the period immediately around the release is still the most important by far, and that's when you need all the PR you can get.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/05/18 10:20:42
Subject: Re:The Return of Epic in 2023?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Sadly, I've derailed the thread but...
...Boltgun looks like the dog's *******s!
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Casual gaming, mostly solo-coop these days.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/05/18 13:19:21
Subject: Re:The Return of Epic in 2023?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Epic will be... Epic, just Epic....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/05/18 19:35:19
Subject: The Return of Epic in 2023?
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Been Around the Block
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Interesting snippet-
“The work on Epic 30k began in 2018. Epic Horus Heresy was the last production by GW with Jervis Johnson involved. Before he left GW in 2021, he was one of the Designers and an important advisor for those who continued to work further on the game. He also was the biggest advocate within the company to bring Epic 30k back. This new Epic is his Baby like the past “Editions” were and will be part of his legacy.”
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/05/18 19:37:34
Subject: The Return of Epic in 2023?
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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Grzzldgamerps5 wrote:Interesting snippet-
“The work on Epic 30k began in 2018. Epic Horus Heresy was the last production by GW with Jervis Johnson involved. Before he left GW in 2021, he was one of the Designers and an important advisor for those who continued to work further on the game. He also was the biggest advocate within the company to bring Epic 30k back. This new Epic is his Baby like the past “Editions” were and will be part of his legacy.”
Unfortunately that also comes from Faeit212, aka Fake101  The chance that it's just straight made-up is very high.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/05/20 14:39:38
Subject: Re:The Return of Epic in 2023?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Events, on which they could show more:
- UK Games Expo (June)
- Nova Open (August / September)
- Gen Con (September)
- Spiel (October)
- Warhammer Day (October)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/05/20 14:43:03
Subject: Re:The Return of Epic in 2023?
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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RazorEdge wrote:Events, on which they could show more:
- UK Games Expo (June)
- Nova Open (August / September)
- Gen Con (September)
- Spiel (October)
- Warhammer Day (October)
I made a more comprehensive list: https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/810015.page
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/05/20 14:54:59
Subject: The Return of Epic in 2023?
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Do you guys not have phones?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/05/20 22:07:10
Subject: The Return of Epic in 2023?
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Fixture of Dakka
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We haven't been using the phones, you see...we use pens!
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Casual gaming, mostly solo-coop these days.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/05/21 00:01:38
Subject: The Return of Epic in 2023?
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2nd Lieutenant
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Let's be honest, if / when this does come.out there is a 50 / 50 chance only seven people and another 100 bots actually get a copy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/05/21 13:53:24
Subject: Re:The Return of Epic in 2023?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Can't see a "permanent" Starter Set for Epic would become FOMO and get scalped.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/05/21 13:57:12
Subject: Re:The Return of Epic in 2023?
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Executing Exarch
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A starter set would presumably be reprinted as necessary. In any case, if this is a new game roll-out as expected, the components will be available separately as well, which means that the starter box won't be required.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/05/21 15:52:27
Subject: Re:The Return of Epic in 2023?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Eumerin wrote:A starter set would presumably be reprinted as necessary. In any case, if this is a new game roll-out as expected, the components will be available separately as well, which means that the starter box won't be required.
Unless you wanted to get them at a massive discount in the way of a boxed starter, lol...
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