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 Pacific wrote:
2 super heavies indicates a departure from the SM/2nd rules, as they were always deployed in companies of 3.

The article says they "come in detachments of up to six", so it looks like there's some flexibility.


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 Matrindur wrote:

 Sotahullu wrote:
I hope I was not only one to notice Arvus?

Sadly looks identical to the resin version to me

Yeah, I'm hopeful they're plastic but I'm not holding my breath...

Will we see chimeras for Solar Aux or will they likely use rhinos as well?

All the detachment data was listed as “up to”. I wonder if that means detachments are expandable, like you can have 2, 4, or 6 of a unit in a detachment.

Almost certainly neither. In 28mm they have the Dracosan

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Solar-Auxilia-Dracosan-Armoured-Transport

 Stormonu wrote:
Will we see chimeras for Solar Aux or will they likely use rhinos as well?

They have the Aurox transport. And as Mad Doc Grotsnik pointed out, the Dracosan.

No Shadowswords or Stormblades yet - I guess they'll roll those out when to repackaged titans start to appear.

MarkNorfolk wrote:
No Shadowswords or Stormblades yet - I guess they'll roll those out when to repackaged titans start to appear.

Quite possibly another launch weekend offering,

Forget about Baneblades, Shadowswords, Stormblades, and Hellhammers, where the hell is the Stormhammer - you know, the only Baneblade chassis vehicle that seems to explicity be a Heresy-only era variant?

Almost certainly on its way. And for my money, if I do field Solar Auxilia? There’ll be no such thing as Too Many Stormhammers.

 vadersson wrote:
All the detachment data was listed as “up to”. I wonder if that means detachments are expandable, like you can have 2, 4, or 6 of a unit in a detachment.

Or maybb 3 and 6? Gw seems to be fond of 2 boxes=max lately.

Probably not but one can hope.

The bigger AI planes were two to a box from a sprue each. Wouldn't be surprised if Baneblades were similar.

As long as they don't do what they did with Old Epic which was make detachments of 3 and sell them in packs of 2..

That was enough to make teenage me stamp his feet and head off to discover Gurls.

One box, one detachment is the minimum I’d be happy with. And outside of FW, that’s how Epic had traditionally done it. For the most part.

There were (very) odd exceptions, such as the Stompas set coming with 12 Terminators, which was two and a bit stands, for a unit which I think was four stands, but everything else was One Blister = One Unit, with the plastic boxed sets of course providing a good deal more.

And this should ideally extend to fielding larger units. So Super Heavies? Ideally 2, 4, 6 with two to a box, or 3, 6 with three to a box. Basically no models left gathering dust until I buy another box.

 Arbitrator wrote:
The bigger AI planes were two to a box from a sprue each. Wouldn't be surprised if Baneblades were similar.

Though air planes usually pretty big.

But yeah 2 likely. But one can hope for more

 Skinflint Games wrote:
As long as they don't do what they did with Old Epic which was make detachments of 3 and sell them in packs of 2..

That was enough to make teenage me stamp his feet and head off to discover Gurls.

True story. I recall picking up some of the original 'sensor dome on a stick' Manticores, only to realize I didn't have enough for a support card. The only rational answer was to buy 6 of the things. Honestly, what was the function of anything below Company level with Imperial Guard (barring Deathstrikes which only came as frankly abusive support cards)?

This probably explains why I had 20,000 pts each of Guard, Eldar and Squats, and discovered dating...a bit later.

Needlessly hyped about Legions, I dearly hope we can deploy large Solar Auxilia companies and ideally a three-Reaver battlegroup in support. The best part is that I can introduce my son to it, and rely on his superior vision to paint the tricky bits.


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Addendum to the above. There's penty of material out there to cover in model releases, but I would love a return to Gorgon, Mole and Hellbore companies; as assault with all three was a sight to behold.

Though possibly now Ordinatus Aktaeus is nearer to Mole size and the Terrax Assault drill is for everyone.

the artillery that came two in a pack used to deploy in pairs, IIRC 2nd edition moved them to threes

Am I misremembering some of the blister packs then? I mean, it’s been thick end of 30 years, so the answer is quite likely yes!

Yes, the mistake I made was buying old stock in a 'Titans' branded blister rather then than 'Epic' branded ones for SM2 (they changed them again at Titan Legions with the litttle painted model insert - good in theory but meant you couldn'y easily see which metal variants you were getting).
On the plus side I'm pretty certain that when they were packed in Blisters you could get 2 Warhounds for £3.99. This would have been very early 90s. Grumble, grumble, cost of living crisis, inflation...

I'm not really interested in the game itself but my little 6mm Praetorian Guard project may end up equipped with some Superheavies.

 alphaecho wrote:


I'm not really interested in the game itself but my little 6mm Praetorian Guard project may end up equipped with some Superheavies.

Pretty nice! Wakes Emporium? I'll be doing some not Vostroyans myself, from Ankylo

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Am I misremembering some of the blister packs then? I mean, it’s been thick end of 30 years, so the answer is quite likely yes!

Very (very) hazy memory here, but weren't the super-heavies initially one per blister pack?

Later on I remember a box-set of the fourth, newer SH they released (one with missiles on it - Storm Blade?) that was three in a pack.

Incidentally, don't forget the free little Commissar you got with each IG
For our 30K/Great Crusade games, we subbed in a 'counts as Commissar' Field Police unit (which fit the setting more than a Commissar)

 Sotahullu wrote:


I hope I was not only one to notice Arvus?

Notice the cover/missing of the Tabs.

 Pacific wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Am I misremembering some of the blister packs then? I mean, it’s been thick end of 30 years, so the answer is quite likely yes!

Very (very) hazy memory here, but weren't the super-heavies initially one per blister pack?

Later on I remember a box-set of the fourth, newer SH they released (one with missiles on it - Storm Blade?) that was three in a pack.

Incidentally, don't forget the free little Commissar you got with each IG
For our 30K/Great Crusade games, we subbed in a 'counts as Commissar' Field Police unit (which fit the setting more than a Commissar)

Super Heavies definitely were, but you could also field single Super Heavies as Detachment Cards. Certainly that was true of the Imperial ones. I think Eldar Tempests were two to a card, and may have come two to a blister?

 xttz wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/07/27/heresy-thursday-teasing-a-trio-of-tiny-tanks/







Confirms that Rhinos come as a box of 10. Presumably the super-heavies are sold two at a time.

Fantastic! However the city itself will be ordered from Dropzone Commander as it will be bargain compared to GW prices.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Pacific wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Am I misremembering some of the blister packs then? I mean, it’s been thick end of 30 years, so the answer is quite likely yes!

Very (very) hazy memory here, but weren't the super-heavies initially one per blister pack?

Later on I remember a box-set of the fourth, newer SH they released (one with missiles on it - Storm Blade?) that was three in a pack.

Incidentally, don't forget the free little Commissar you got with each IG
For our 30K/Great Crusade games, we subbed in a 'counts as Commissar' Field Police unit (which fit the setting more than a Commissar)

Super Heavies definitely were, but you could also field single Super Heavies as Detachment Cards. Certainly that was true of the Imperial ones. I think Eldar Tempests were two to a card, and may have come two to a blister?

Just checked army cards (thank you Epic Facebook Group) and they were three per squadron or you could take a Host of 6.

Incidentally, I have PDFs of the old 2nd ed cards & books so if anyone wants copies PM me

 Pacific wrote:
Quite surprised at some of the reactions to the tiles and that having to make a 6 x 4 board using only those would put you off playing the New Epic.

You don't have to do anything like that. In fact, I think the battlefield looks better at this scale having a mix of natural surfaces and built up areas. That way you can have distinct city zones, industrial areas, but also forests, rivers, outposts and things of that nature.

I agree with this. I quite frequently think about Carl Woodrows Epic scale Realm of Battle board, which utilised the Epic Forge World range to great effect, including the roads. Shows that you don't need to entirely cover your board with one type of terrain.

I've attached a picture of his board.

 Skinflint Games wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Pacific wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Am I misremembering some of the blister packs then? I mean, it’s been thick end of 30 years, so the answer is quite likely yes!

Very (very) hazy memory here, but weren't the super-heavies initially one per blister pack?

Later on I remember a box-set of the fourth, newer SH they released (one with missiles on it - Storm Blade?) that was three in a pack.

Incidentally, don't forget the free little Commissar you got with each IG
For our 30K/Great Crusade games, we subbed in a 'counts as Commissar' Field Police unit (which fit the setting more than a Commissar)

Super Heavies definitely were, but you could also field single Super Heavies as Detachment Cards. Certainly that was true of the Imperial ones. I think Eldar Tempests were two to a card, and may have come two to a blister?

Just checked army cards (thank you Epic Facebook Group) and they were three per squadron or you could take a Host of 6.

Incidentally, I have PDFs of the old 2nd ed cards & books so if anyone wants copies PM me

Because this is doing my head in due to a family history of dementia, I’m gonna to have to check my cards when I get in. I swear Super Heavies (outside of Titan Legions, which I don’t currently own) were Detachments of 1, Companies of 3. And I want to rule out the cards you sourced aren’t fan created, making us both right!

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Now waiting for the Forge World resin legion door sets for the Tiny Rhino because who doesn’t want to assemble models with toothpicks and tweezers?

Anyone else remember the tiny multi-part Epic-scale Space Marines Forge World sold for 2 quid (each) at events only? Magnifying glass optional.

(Honestly, I'd totally buy resin Legion doors for tanks at Epic scale)

MrHobbles wrote:

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Now waiting for the Forge World resin legion door sets for the Tiny Rhino because who doesn’t want to assemble models with toothpicks and tweezers?

Anyone else remember the tiny multi-part Epic-scale Space Marines Forge World sold for 2 quid (each) at events only? Magnifying glass optional.

(Honestly, I'd totally buy resin Legion doors for tanks at Epic scale)

Fun fact: Around Imperial Armour 4, Forgeworld had a full lineup of Epic Scale Tactical, Assault and Devastator Resin Space Marines ready for production until they had a colossal moulding mishap that trashed their Epic Scale master sculpts of the Tyranids for Epic. Only the harridan survived. There's a few pictures floating around of the Resins. Evil and Chaos on the Tactical Command forums used to have several painted units years ago...

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Skinflint Games wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Pacific wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Am I misremembering some of the blister packs then? I mean, it’s been thick end of 30 years, so the answer is quite likely yes!

Very (very) hazy memory here, but weren't the super-heavies initially one per blister pack?

Later on I remember a box-set of the fourth, newer SH they released (one with missiles on it - Storm Blade?) that was three in a pack.

Incidentally, don't forget the free little Commissar you got with each IG
For our 30K/Great Crusade games, we subbed in a 'counts as Commissar' Field Police unit (which fit the setting more than a Commissar)

Super Heavies definitely were, but you could also field single Super Heavies as Detachment Cards. Certainly that was true of the Imperial ones. I think Eldar Tempests were two to a card, and may have come two to a blister?

Just checked army cards (thank you Epic Facebook Group) and they were three per squadron or you could take a Host of 6.

Incidentally, I have PDFs of the old 2nd ed cards & books so if anyone wants copies PM me

Because this is doing my head in due to a family history of dementia, I’m gonna to have to check my cards when I get in. I swear Super Heavies (outside of Titan Legions, which I don’t currently own) were Detachments of 1, Companies of 3. And I want to rule out the cards you sourced aren’t fan created, making us both right!

Was about to whizz the PDF over to you on a PM but Dakka won't let me attach things The Imperial superheavy stuff was definitely companies of 3, detachments of 1 (I'm scratchbuilding my way through the Barbarius Prime army... slowly...)