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Albertorius wrote: Well, if the price is correct, that is pretty anemic.
I missed the part about the price. What is it and where is this info coming from?
Valrak, apparently
Matrindur wrote: Valrak just uploaded a short video with one interesting bit for LI in there, apparently the box will be £120.
Would be the same price as the new Cerastus knights so £120/155€/$200
I would feel frustrated that Warglaives & Helverins are still not plastic, but Vanguard offer a sensible alternative and one can at least fill a House' allied budget with Marines or Solar Aux.
I'm not sure that looks like it's worth $120, let alone 120 pounds. This is going have as robust a community as the Ash Wastes. Maybe if the rules are really good they'll get the 3D printing crowd to play it for free, but that's a big if. Wouldn't mind getting some little knights though, I missed them last round, and I kinda want some.
I genuinely surprised by how totally not fused I am about the return of epic.
I mainly just want the titans back in production for titanicus, plus maybe a few marines / tanks for base decorations.
it's the quiet ones you have to look out for. Their the ones that change the world, the loud ones just take the credit for it.
Yeah, I'm hoping the 120GBP/200USD price point is in error, or they just aren't offering a notable price break on the big box and the individual boxes are cheaper than anticipated. I really have a hard time seeing that much value in the set at the moment based on the minis.
I know what GW probably thinks everything is worth (figuring that they stick with the standard specialist games pricepoint of $50 for the typical ~9x6x1.5 product box), if that $200 is true you're probably looking at:
-$50 for the marines infantry and dreads
-$50 for the SA infantry and heavy sentinels
-$65 (IIRC) for the warhound titans
-$50 for the Marine tanks (I'm assuming its half a box of Preds, half a box of Sicarans)
-$50 for the SA tanks (again assuming half a box of Lemans Russ's, half a box of Malcadors)
+ whatever for books, tokens, templates, dice, etc.
So all in $265 of real "value" (lets be real the rulebook is going to probably be obsolete within a year anyway if Necromunda is any indication of how this will go, and there are inevitably going to end up being lower cost options to get the rules for the game), which I'm hard pressed to say is actually worth as much as they are charging for it when you compare to size/volume and cost of full size equivalents, etc. Take the Astartes infantry set at an estimated $50 and compare with a box of 20 Mk6 for $80. 22 bases worth of quarter scale miniatures for 2/3rds the price of the full size equivalent doesn't really sound like a good deal. Theres lots of ways to analyze it (proportional to size, proportional to volume, proportional to the number of figures in the box, etc.) and you can spin the argument any which way you want, but if you think of it in the context of "bases" worth of miniatures, which to me seems the most rational way of looking at it, it would seem reasonable to assume that ~22 bases of Legion scale infantry should come in probably somewhere between 1/4 and 1/2 the price (somewhere between $20-40, IMO $35 seems like a reasonably fair cost for the contents of that infantry box to me) of 20 bases of HH scale infantry.
Likewise, box of 10 rhinos, I'm figuring $50. But do 10 1/4 size rhinos have as much value to me as a single HH size rhino for the same price? Not... not really. The HH scale kit takes a lot more plastic and occupies about 2x more physical volume than the lil guys do and has amore impactful presence on a game of HH than 10 are likely to have in a game of LI, that price comparison just doesn't seem like I'm getting my moneys worth to me. 6 mini-predators at $50 vs a full size at $70? Ehh, don't think so.
My enthusiasm is starting to cool based on that price rumor. I'm not sure what I expected the price to come in at, but I think $170 was probably more what I was imagining.
Breotan wrote: £120 = $147, not $200. Nice to see GW's USA tax is still a thing.
So, who are the big UK resellers, and do they ship to the US?
Once again, you have to factor in the cost of transatlantic distribution. Its not a "tax" its a cost of doing business with someone on another continent.
There are no UK resellers that will ship to the US, not publicly anyway, and those "underground" options (of which I only know one) will still upcharge you vs what the brits would pay at straight currency from a discounter and hit you with a shipping charge between $50-100 for a box of this size, depending on how much it ends up weighing (speaking from experience). You will manage only a slight discount vs what you would pay if you ordered from a US discounter, but you'll be waiting about 2-3 weeks longer to get it.
The new rulebook cover image is a mess, they must have paid for a rush job there.
And they just had to complicate the layout of the spine...
Beggars can't be choosers on a rush job of this size
The original image of the book provided in the original previews was just a rendering, not the actual book. I don't think the book was ever going to quite end up looking the way you thought it would.
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CoALabaer wrote: Wargamers hate two things: the state of the game and change.
You're going to need to buy 2 starter boxes to meet a basic NetEA army setup, and GW does mention that in the promo...GG
As for the queue, it's not even I.P. locked and is barely *cookie* tracked. I've used multiple sessions of the same browser and/or multiple browsers to sit in the queue in 4-5 spots.
Pacific wrote: Can I ask for people buying from an FLGS in the UK which of the stores have a good record of managing to fulfil pre-orders?
Going halves with a mate and shall be doing the SA
Always had good deliveries from dark sphere.
Goblin Gaming used to be good, but they refused to send orders to Ireland after Brexit I had an order cancelled and lost a ton of loyalty points I'd used/saved up. Up to then though, never had an issue with them.
Entoyment on the south coast was a lovely little shop, looks like they've expanded to online sales as well now.
Same as with lvlupgaming. Great shop that looks like its done well and expanded since I was last there.
If anything, GW is the only place that has failed to provide pre-orders I've made in the past
As for the queue, it's not even I.P. locked and is barely *cookie* tracked. I've used multiple sessions of the same browser and/or multiple browsers to sit in the queue in 4-5 spots.
This. They've improved it since the first iteration where you could literally open a new tab in the same browser and be sat in hundreds of spots. But the queue does nothing to stop 'proper' scalpers from using bots. Even the most basic mobile phone & single Pc can allow a bot hundreds of spots.
The queue system does nothing but punish customers, its ridiculous.
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It sounds like its been delayed from the article. Maybe I'm reading it wrong. I hope the cost of the big city/spiral set isn't increased too much as that was a bargain before (at least from buying their terrain in single sets)
My local GW store is listing the tiles and ruins as a single set: "Civitas Imperialis City Road Tiles and Ruins set".
I find this very odd and I hope not, as that is going to drastically increase the cost of the tiles for some sprues of ruins (which are far cheaper from vanguard and easily made from complete building kits)
is it true these tanks are in a vast number of small pieces for assembly? Several youtubers were discussing that.
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we have no idea, nobody has seen the sprues or assembly guides, outside of the influencers who received them and are under NDA to not discuss anything about them for another week.
Its reasonable to assume that they are in a much smaller number of pieces than their full scale counterparts. Its also reasonable to assume that they can't be in too many pieces as you are looking at putting 2-4 of most of these tanks on a single sprue.
CoALabaer wrote: Wargamers hate two things: the state of the game and change.
Shrapnelsmile wrote: is it true these tanks are in a vast number of small pieces for assembly? Several youtubers were discussing that.
I don't think we've seen sprues and such yet. But its epic so its going to be stuff similar to the Aircraft and Knights that we've seen from GW already. So yes there will be tiny parts, those side mounted guns; turrets, alternate barrels for weapons. All those things and more - heck regular infantry are going to be tiny. That's just part and parcel of this scale of game.
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