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That's an... interesting comparison - care to expand on it a little?

I mean, I don't recall any advertising for LI saying that [LEAD DESIGNER] is going to make you his b&^%h...

Not sure I understand the reference. Daikatana sounds familiar (besides the video game which I'm not sure is what you're referring to) but I can't place my finger on it

Whatshisface from Ion Storm software took out a full page advert for the game in one or more magazines with that printed in very large text. It was not a great look, and the game totally bombed because it was terrible.

It also was much-delayed by standards of the time (though 3 years is blindingly fast by some of today's metrics for video games) which I think is the source of the comparison. Duke Nukem Forever would probably be a more apt comparison now.

Have a feeling that this is just WarCom not being told about anything changing, putting up their ad copy set out a month ago and then there being zero follow-through from GW for either the WarCom guys to confirm the schedule with the people choosing the release schedule or the guys determining the release schedule not telling WarCom the new information.

Disappointing, but given GW's track record of late it's pretty much what I've come to expect from the seemingly-dubious levels of competence in a variety of support departments.

OH, COME ON! What is the Preview? Preview of TOW Orks and Goblins would had been funny, but only MTO Stuff.....?

The Book and further Boxes have to get annouced next week for counting as "later in January".

LI becomes a barrel burst, and it's the fault by GW's inefficience/incompetence to have working logistics...

Looks like I have to invest/focus on my other Hobbies. Very demotivating...

It's fine, the game will still be there when the second wave comes out and maybe even when they reprint the first wave.

Unfortunately I think we all fell for warcoms saying later this month meaning order this month.
Preorder can be announced next Sunday and it's still this month. Sounds like they have a horrible little lawyer writing their previews now.

Jaxmeister wrote:
Unfortunately I think we all fell for warcoms saying later this month meaning order this month.
Preorder can be announced next Sunday and it's still this month. Sounds like they have a horrible little lawyer writing their previews now.

The last preorder for January (27th) was announced in today's article. Next Sunday's article will be for a February 3rd preorder. What they published at the start of January was very clear and obviously incorrect.

Perhaps there has been another unintended delay, but it's incredibly frustrating when there's no communication or transparency about that.

 Krinsath wrote:
Have a feeling that this is just WarCom not being told about anything changing, putting up their ad copy set out a month ago and then there being zero follow-through from GW for either the WarCom guys to confirm the schedule with the people choosing the release schedule or the guys determining the release schedule not telling WarCom the new information.

This has to be the case, otherwise they would have just editited the article to say soon instead of this month as they did many times before.




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Interestingly they have this at the bottom:

* These products are delayed in Japan and Australia.

** These products are delayed in Japan.

 

But nothing in the article those footnotes actually belong to. A region delay also doesn't really make sense for products that don't have a fixed release and are just made to order anyway.

So it seems likely those footnotes where meant for LI and something happened so not just Japan and Australia are delayed but everyone else too.
Which would mean it's a very short term change If they already had the Sunday article written for LI and changed it afterwards

Well there was the recent news from a number of stores that they did not receive their TOW orders from GW. At first it seemed to be mainly a US issue due to weather in Memphis, but I also heard that there were uk retailers with the same issues.

Could be a sign that gws logistical capabilities is straining under pressure and the warehouses are having trouble keeping up.

chaos0xomega wrote:
Well there was the recent news from a number of stores that they did not receive their TOW orders from GW. At first it seemed to be mainly a US issue due to weather in Memphis, but I also heard that there were uk retailers with the same issues.

Could be a sign that gws logistical capabilities is straining under pressure and the warehouses are having trouble keeping up.

GW has been unable to deliver pretty much ANYTHING in time to FLGS I frequent since leviathan.

Sometimes it has been minor and items come like tuesday after release date. Other times like leviathan almost 3 weeks(thursday when saturday would been 3 weeks after release date).

Unsurprisingly TOW was delayed here as well.

So yeah they have been straining for quite a while. Probably why they went to 2 week preorders as default. Seems it had some help in UK but not perfect and outside UK even less.

And here locally I'm assuming at least 1 week delay by default and not planning on taking anything to tournaments from releases in at least 4 weeks after release date even if unpainted fine.

But that's been the norm pretty much non stop since the post-covid shipping choke.

I stopped even calling the FLGS on release day. I go about once every other month and pick up whatever's waiting for me.

 Krinsath wrote:
It also was much-delayed by standards of the time (though 3 years is blindingly fast by some of today's metrics for video games) which I think is the source of the comparison. Duke Nukem Forever would probably be a more apt comparison now.

Bingo.


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 Dysartes wrote:
That's an... interesting comparison - care to expand on it a little?

I mean, I don't recall any advertising for LI saying that [LEAD DESIGNER] is going to make you his b&^%h...

Oh, Dysartes, GW has made all of us their beaches without actually saying it. They have the financial reports to prove it....

Here the deliveries have been pretty consistently on schedule, there was a window towards the end of 2022 into early 2023 where everything hit week-long delays, as well as some difficulties earlier in covid, but other than that I haven't seen much disruption until now

chaos0xomega wrote:
Well, if we think about it - how much of their current plastic manufacturing capacity is tied up trying to fill outstanding demand for the first wave of LI + the first wave of TOW?

Is anyone waiting on orders from GW themselves, or is it just third parties? I wonder if some stores over-sold and instead of cancelling orders they decided to wait until the restock, either due to an error in their own stock system or a miscommunication from GW.

It seems like GW have a pretty fixed number of kits to give to independent stockists and the stockists find out only a few days before the preorder goes up.

Retailers are awaiting restock primarily, I don't think there's anyone who ordered from gw directly who's waiting.

It's like the Age Of Darkness release all over again. GW releases a game and leaves it hanging. I made the right choice sticking to AT for now

chaos0xomega wrote:
Retailers are awaiting restock primarily, I don't think there's anyone who ordered from gw directly who's waiting.

Just people waiting for them to restock everything they wanted.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
Well, if we think about it - how much of their current plastic manufacturing capacity is tied up trying to fill outstanding demand for the first wave of LI + the first wave of TOW?

Is anyone waiting on orders from GW themselves, or is it just third parties? I wonder if some stores over-sold and instead of cancelling orders they decided to wait until the restock, either due to an error in their own stock system or a miscommunication from GW.

It seems like GW have a pretty fixed number of kits to give to independent stockists and the stockists find out only a few days before the preorder goes up.

For LI or TOW?

I certainly haven't had anything I ordered for TOW ship from GW directly yet. Nothing more than "pre-order received" in order tracking.

 tauist wrote:
It's like the Age Of Darkness release all over again. GW releases a game and leaves it hanging. I made the right choice sticking to AT for now

Make no mistake, Adeptus Titanicus is also languishing

LI has invigorated interest in AT here but the only effect that's had is there are now 3 people angry they can't buy the AT starter anywhere.

I think that some selections of Legions stuff are going into independent stores. My FLGS had a pile of Rhinos and Thunder hawks arrive last week, but you can't get Kratos or marine infantry for love nor money. Element Games (UK) has a load of listings that say 2nd Feb for new items arriving, I guess there is stuff just being produced and sent out all the time.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 tauist wrote:
It's like the Age Of Darkness release all over again. GW releases a game and leaves it hanging. I made the right choice sticking to AT for now

Make no mistake, Adeptus Titanicus is also languishing

LI has invigorated interest in AT here but the only effect that's had is there are now 3 people angry they can't buy the AT starter anywhere.

It doesn't help that players who decide to part with a bit of their AT or epic collection currently get called scalpers for doing what amounts to a public service at this point.


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 Pacific wrote:
I think that some selections of Legions stuff are going into independent stores. My FLGS had a pile of Rhinos and Thunder hawks arrive last week, but you can't get Kratos or marine infantry for love nor money. Element Games (UK) has a load of listings that say 2nd Feb for new items arriving, I guess there is stuff just being produced and sent out all the time.

Local store has/had a few rhino boxes and a bout 5 reaver boxes and that's it.

Element did get a restock of Marine Infantry and Rhinos, but that sold through. No I didn’t get any.

But given I’m well on track to get my Rhinos all finished this week, they need to be giving me more to play with soon.

Wayland Games is currently showing 10+ rhino and marine infantry boxes in stock.

Both EG and Wayland have the starter set too.

The one thing I haven't seen available in any third-party store since launch is the Thunderhawk. Planning to check my local store for one next time I need some paint.

Every once in a while i find a thunderhawk randomly online, but they seem to sell out in the time it takes me to decide if I want to spend the money or wait.

 Flinty wrote:
Wayland Games is currently showing 10+ rhino and marine infantry boxes in stock.

I’m….distrustful of Wayland when it comes to their stock levels.

It's not just independent stores, my local GW only got the Launch Boxes for LI in any quantity, they didn't get enough of anything else to fulfil in store pre-orders let alone have any shelf stock. Interestingly with no supporting products they still have launch boxes sat in the store unsold. Which I can kinda understand as with so much of the range unavailable people don't want to be left with just the contents of the box.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Flinty wrote:
Wayland Games is currently showing 10+ rhino and marine infantry boxes in stock.

I’m….distrustful of Wayland when it comes to their stock levels.

They fixed their stock levels issue years ago by going to live-stock on their website.

 Overread wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Flinty wrote:
Wayland Games is currently showing 10+ rhino and marine infantry boxes in stock.

I’m….distrustful of Wayland when it comes to their stock levels.

They fixed their stock levels issue years ago by going to live-stock on their website.

And at the moment there is no down side. No other vendors seems to have the things… if they don’t turn up quickly enough, cancel the order.