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Only thing I want for AT is a thick terminal for Dire Wolf. Especially since you only get 1 paper terminal in a box of 2 models, and the cat knocked paint water over mine. Apart from that it's fine if it just remains on sale with no new stuff.

Thick terminal for the Warmaster as well

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
I just hope the Titans and Knights of Ryza finally get transfers: Legio Crucius (The Warmongers) and Knight House Sidus.

I'd be happy already if they finally bring back the existing transfers. The only ones available this whole time have been the Mortis ones, I've been waiting for Gryphonicus since before Legions Imperialis was even revealed

 Dryaktylus wrote:
The only game that seems to be due for a new edition in 2025 is Warcry, as it's so far followed the 3-year cycle of 40K, AOS and Kill Team. It would be a ideal quiet year to attend to the smaller games like AT and Blood Bowl, possibly introduce a new TOW spin off.

Horus Heresy 2.5 or 3.0 is rumored to be the mid-year edition release. The Horus Heresy and Legions Imperialis releases have recently been close to each other for many kits. I don't think it's a coincidence that we haven't seen super heavy tanks for marines and now some resin tanks (Glaive, Falchion) for Heresy are no longer for sale. GW has said they will continue to fill out the current ranges this year, an expansion or two is realistic, but I don't think we'll see anywhere near the amount of LI releases as we did in 2024.

As for a personal wish list, more infantry options, legion specific units, and Ordinatus would be great to diversify the game more.

 Lathe Biosas wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
There is appeal overlap, despite them being very different games.

Me? I’ve no Titans in my LI collection. At least, not yet.

No Titans? I must've read that wrong...

Aye, there's something wrong here!

I prefer a relatively purist approach.

That being said, the recent Detachments which allow Mechanicum auxiliaries as part of my Legion are challenging that.

Surely the purist approach is ALL titans. Preferably Warlords.

SamusDrake wrote:

 Dryaktylus wrote:


Necromunda is (a bit) older. And I wouldn't bet on a new AT edition - I'm actually surprised it's still there and even got new content with the Dark Mechanicum stalkers. Maybe they keep it to lure people into buying their most expensive epic models.

Necromunda has at least grown with revised books and new phases such as Ash Wastes and Hive Secundus, but you are correct. I think it was 2017 when it was released?

As for AT I'm giving GW the benefit of the doubt, for now. I wasn't expecting AT to have lasted this long and yet here we are. I didn't expect the Dark-Mech models to get AT rules and yet they got them.

The only game that seems to be due for a new edition in 2025 is Warcry, as it's so far followed the 3-year cycle of 40K, AOS and Kill Team. It would be a ideal quiet year to attend to the smaller games like AT and Blood Bowl, possibly introduce a new TOW spin off.

AT and Warcry are my fave GW games right now, so I'm in some limbo. A new WC edition would make some sense with a corresponding move to Aqshy. But who knows there. I think it's a great game with a very inexpensive buy-in, but it seems overshadowed by Kill Team and just too overlooked by gamers than it should be. I dunno.

AT I think will continue getting modest support as LI gets kits that translate to AT. Beyond that is another who knows. The frustrating thing is that there were other Titan chassis in the works, and they were laying fluff groundwork for them in the later AT books. They didn't feel that far away. But I don't know if they'll ever see a release now. LI is moving on to other factions and the team seems more focused on producing endless variant tanks and such.

LI must be doing better in other regions than mine to get the level of support it's received. Over Xmas I stopped by that store dumping its LI stuff for 40% off, and most of the pile that was there on Black Friday was still there.

The biggest downside of LI is its following 30K which is going to be interesting to see what they do because unlike 30K you can't just make an endless number of different chapters of marines and dreadnoughts with different shoulderpads.

It really needs to break out and at the very least get some actual chaos models.

I need an Arvus-carrier-Titan, a massive one I guess.

Seriously, I think that Battlefleet and Warmaster (and Mordheim) have much more priority than Titanicus 2.0

Schrödingers Primarch wrote:


Horus Heresy 2.5 or 3.0 is rumored to be the mid-year edition release. The Horus Heresy and Legions Imperialis releases have recently been close to each other for many kits. I don't think it's a coincidence that we haven't seen super heavy tanks for marines and now some resin tanks (Glaive, Falchion) for Heresy are no longer for sale. GW has said they will continue to fill out the current ranges this year, an expansion or two is realistic, but I don't think we'll see anywhere near the amount of LI releases as we did in 2024.

As for a personal wish list, more infantry options, legion specific units, and Ordinatus would be great to diversify the game more.

I think Space Hulk might be the summer release, although I'm certainly not ruling out a new boxed game for 30K. I just think the current rumours are based on assumptions that every GW game runs on a 3-year life cycle, and the rumoured boxed set sounds like a marine vs marine wish list that is totally ignoring last year's addition of the Solar Auxiliary plastic range. An all-marine box set made sense previously because marines were the only ones to have plastic kits( they wouldn't do resin or metal these days ), but looking at the boxed game for LI...Marines vs Solar now makes far more sense. There's also plastic Mechanicum and dedicated 30K packaged kits for Knights as well, for a bit of support flavour and even more box-splitting...

Saying that, I'd throw flowers and confetti if there is a new edition of 30K this year. I was disappointed that the Dominus Knight was excluded from the Liber Mechanicum, and hopefully it will get reintroduced if they intend to release a new kit with 30K packaging and transfers. Maybe they just couldn't do it for the current edition due to the plastic Cerastus releases...so here's raising my chalice to the thought.

The Dominus-class Knights not showing up in HH (in either scale) is really weird. There's nothing explicit in the background prohibiting them from showing up, is there?

Schrödingers Primarch wrote:
... GW has said they will continue to fill out the current ranges this year, an expansion or two is realistic, but I don't think we'll see anywhere near the amount of LI releases as we did in 2024.

As for a personal wish list, more infantry options, legion specific units, and Ordinatus would be great to diversify the game more.

I’d wager that’s probably not far from the truth. Range fill out and a switch from resin to plastic. The Mechanicum knights are already showing as sold out or, in the case of the Magaera, vanished. Maybe even see a new reaver and/or warlord weapon sprue with the resin weapons making the switch. Add in things like the ordinatus and a few thinks like the big stuff that won’t be plasticated in 30k likes the stormbird or mastodon with a few weapon variant predators, etc

 Dysartes wrote:
The Dominus-class Knights not showing up in HH (in either scale) is really weird. There's nothing explicit in the background prohibiting them from showing up, is there?

There's nothing I can find anywhere that even remotely says that the Dominus-class knights are newer than the HH.

It just seems odd.

 Dysartes wrote:
The Dominus-class Knights not showing up in HH (in either scale) is really weird. There's nothing explicit in the background prohibiting them from showing up, is there?

I'm guessing that it's something to do with only being able to offer so many 30K packaged Knights, for this edition. Although the Questoris and Armigers are just 40K sprues, I think the included transfer sheets are at least different. So technically this edition seen the release of five plastic Knight kits; Armigers, Questoris and the three Cerastus variants. Probably more if they introduce plastic Mechanicum Knight kits.

I believe the absence of Dominus stuff probably stems from the same source as the lack of crossover between TOW/AOS kits etc. Cerastus Knights being units in the 40k knight codex (as opposed to a download from Warcom) and Dominus knights getting HH/LI rules probably go hand in hand.

Same reason why a number of codex flyers failed to appear in AI I reckon.

I suspect it's more of an design / aesthetic choice. FW/HH units and their variants tend to be fairly focused are rarely have more than 2-3 weapon systems. FW Knights like the Cerastus or Styrix continue the original design of two main arm weapons and a small supporting gun.

Meanwhile Dominus knights have the same 'rolled around in a bits box' appearance as many Primaris vehicles, with weapon hardpoints nailed to every available surface like an Ork war machine.

Armiger knights were originally introduced to 40k from around the same period as Dominus, but only the former was developed for the HH setting. That's because Armigers are consistent with the rest of the Knight range.

 Dysartes wrote:
The Dominus-class Knights not showing up in HH (in either scale) is really weird. There's nothing explicit in the background prohibiting them from showing up, is there?

I just assumed it was because the HH\LI team had some taste and did not want that ugly thing anywhere near their game. As mentioned above, it does also suffer from the guns stuck on every available surface issue!

I'm glad that GW covering modern 40k models in glue and rolling them around in a box of guns is becoming recognized as an issue.

 Overread wrote:
AT and LI I could see as complimenting each other like Killteam and 40K or Warcry and AoS.

They use part of the same model ranges and give a very different flavour and style of game. LI is always going to be very simple for titans because they have to balance into the rest of the armed forces on the table.

Meanwhile AT lets you really go deep on titan mechanics and just focus on that whole style of gameplay.


In general if one game is doing well the other has potential to do well also.

Poor Aeronautica. Almost forgotton. Even GW's store doesn't have a listing for it even though it's still for sale:

https://www.warhammer.com/en-GB/shop/other-games/aeronautica-imperialis

AN's problem is it has filthy Xenos in it which the new generation of LI and AT can't/don't use


That said AI and AT are buried on menu within menu options on the site as well so you have to know they are there to go looking for them (apparently having two lines of products on the top bar is beyond the GW website to support)

Time to get this thread back on track.

So in terms of the fyootcha?

With last weekend’s pre-orders, we’re again all shiny and up to date in terms of what we know was coming. And I for one appreciated the Mechanicum Mixer detachments.

The next preview show however shows no sign of a LI reveal, so we’re currently flying blind, other than the “hidden in plain sight” Mechanicum tanks seen in a couple of promo pics.

I’m now left wondering what our next treat might be?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
So in terms of the fyootcha?

With last weekend’s pre-orders, we’re again all shiny and up to date in terms of what we know was coming. And I for one appreciated the Mechanicum Mixer detachments.

The next preview show however shows no sign of a LI reveal, so we’re currently flying blind, other than the “hidden in plain sight” Mechanicum tanks seen in a couple of promo pics.

I’m now left wondering what our next treat might be?

There are still the accidentally previewed Krios tanks aren't there?

edit - Which on reading your post again, I see you quite clearly mentioned, but which I completely failed to notice!

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
So in terms of the fyootcha?

With last weekend’s pre-orders, we’re again all shiny and up to date in terms of what we know was coming. And I for one appreciated the Mechanicum Mixer detachments.

The next preview show however shows no sign of a LI reveal, so we’re currently flying blind, other than the “hidden in plain sight” Mechanicum tanks seen in a couple of promo pics.

I’m now left wondering what our next treat might be?

Well in order of likelihood...

As you say we know that two, possibly three new kits are coming for the Mechanicum vehicles. Those can easily be formally unveiled via Heresy Thursday and are enough to form a typical 3-box release wave together without needing to be attached a new book.

Similarly they could also decide to move some of the existing resin Knights into plastic and be released fairly quickly. Again those wouldn't require an associated book release, so wouldn't need the same fanfare as a preview stream.

I think for actual brand new content we may be waiting until Adepticon to see supplement #4 and what new toys it brings.

So late March? Sounds about right.

Who knows, might even visit Adepticon meself, just for giggles.

Would expect any new Plastic Knights with a Molech Themed Book....

RazorEdge wrote:
Would expect any new Plastic Knights with a Molech Themed Book....

Would love that to be the next book, hopefully with more artwork than featured in Doom of Molech and something special on the beast hunting side.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
So late March? Sounds about right.

Who knows, might even visit Adepticon meself, just for giggles.

I didn't do so good last time I played there... ever wanted to know what it feels like to come in dead last at a tourney?

So we won't see any super heavies in LI this year (glaive or fellblade)? I though more tanks was the moto of 2025 or that was for HH?