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So you're thinking the setup of 2 stackable columns and ~5mm baseplate allows you to integrate with both Sector Mechanicus and Zone Mortalis depending how you configure it?
CoALabaer wrote: Wargamers hate two things: the state of the game and change.
chaos0xomega wrote: So you're thinking the setup of 2 stackable columns and ~5mm baseplate allows you to integrate with both Sector Mechanicus and Zone Mortalis depending how you configure it?
Well, integrate is a strong word for just matching height. You can stack the new legs two tall and connect to old platforms but at that point you're just using the new kit to replicate the old kit. As I initially said, the problem is that there are no new transition pieces between new (half) height and old (full) height. Now, I think Zone Mortalis stairs should have the correct height to bridge the two exactly but I don't think they have the connectors to natively link up with Sector Mechanicus so it's still going to be a jury rig, or at best you might make them free standing.
Honestly our best bet is to wait for the probable sculptor @Owen_Patten to publish something either on his socials or WarCom.
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins.
Isn't it fair to assume that followup boxes might include those adapter pieces though? I didn't think the new terrain box would be the only one for this season? They plan to release more right?
Besides I can 3d model them myself if I need to.
CoALabaer wrote: Wargamers hate two things: the state of the game and change.
chaos0xomega wrote: Isn't it fair to assume that followup boxes might include those adapter pieces though? I didn't think the new terrain box would be the only one for this season? They plan to release more right?
We can assume there will be more parts for this theme coming for the rest of this season but not what those parts might be. Gallowdark did not to my knowledge receive any new physical functionality in expansions, only scatter and alternative wall plugs, and the sprue of scatter in the main Kill Team box does not fill me with confidence in this regard. The hollow underside of the round platform is also a big turnoff for me for further investment into this set.
The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins.
According to the GMG review I saw, the best thing about this box were the faction specific cardstock. Dont feel too bad about missing out on this one, I'll just buy the Annual 2024 book once its out and save my monies for the 2nd edition launch next summer. LI will be enough of a money pit in the meantime..
Kind of bummed about those Scouts though. Would have been a nice upgrade to the old kit, but alas, they scale creeped em to far from current firstborn Marine scales.. Vintage metal minis seem like my best option for now
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"The larger point though, is that as players, we have more control over what the game looks and feels like than most of us are willing to use in order to solve our own problems"
For those who wonder how big the new Scouts are, I also made a scale comparison with all of the older Scout models, plus other Marines and human-sized models.
It's been said before but I'll join the choir and say it again... thanks for the scale comparison! Always good to know just how big the primariscouts actually are.
OK I think I like the new format, with reference cards and all that for each team. That’s a huge QoL boost and also an extra 20-30 quid if they’re sold separately later.
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Ancient Otter wrote: The Primaries Grapnel guns would be out of proportion for the old Scout models, right?
Judging by the pictures stahly provided the grapnel gun isn't any larger than a bolter. The hands of the new Scouts seem comparable in size to the old ones as well. I don't think a hand swap or using a Reiver grapnel gun would look out of place.
It's been a while since I played around with Marine bits but I think power armored Primaris arms are just a little bit longer than old Marine arms. I suspect the same is true of the new Scouts and a full arm swap might edge into awkward territory on the stockier old models.
Nehekhara lives! Sort of!
Why is the rum always gone?
razor sawing at the wrist, or cutting off the weapon altogether, should do nicely
"The larger point though, is that as players, we have more control over what the game looks and feels like than most of us are willing to use in order to solve our own problems"
Any chance of you ever providing some context as to why we should watch these videos, Shadow Walker, rather than just spamming threads with them without commentary?
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Kanluwen wrote: This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote: You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something...
These videos have a specific target - people with reading disabilities or those who can't be bothered to read the rules themselves. I know they are confusingly labeled "reviews" but no, it's just a person reading every word of the text of the rules (and numbers too), occasionally adding "oh, I guess it's good" or something similar.
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Cyel wrote: These videos have a specific target - people with reading disabilities or those who can't be bothered to read the rules themselves. I know they are confusingly labeled "reviews" but no, it's just a person reading every word of the text of the rules (and numbers too), occasionally adding "oh, I guess it's good" or something similar.
Which is exactly the sort of information I like to have when deciding if I need to buy a book, rather than some mook's personal opinion on the contents.
The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins.
Dysartes wrote: Any chance of you ever providing some context as to why we should watch these videos, Shadow Walker, rather than just spamming threads with them without commentary?
I post them so people looking for the particular product could have some info before buying the expensive boxes. They are all relevant to the particular thread so I thought that there need not to be an additional info explaining what they are about.
Haha, I actually don't buy the books at all, I see them a waste of money considering how quickly out of date they get.
To quote myself from the TOW discussion:
"...my opinion is based on some KT games, one in particular, when I had to tell my book-using Hierotek Circle opponent "this is not not how this rule works now, please stop referring to the book" like 10 times.
...At one point one of the guys in our group wanted to give away some of his KT books... and nobody wanted them, even for free."
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For added context, here are CYRAC's thoughts on these teams, who unlike many other tubers, has actually won major KT21 tournaments
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"The larger point though, is that as players, we have more control over what the game looks and feels like than most of us are willing to use in order to solve our own problems"
That gives a very good indication that a Terminator Killteam is in the pipe.
Edit:
Scratch that. I saw a zoomed in version. It looks like there is a 40K logo on it and they only used the kill team shape, but intend this for general usage as a short distance measurement tool.
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