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Yes, each faction is getting an updated Combat Patrol as we go forward. We see it happening already with Space Marines, Tyranids, Necron, and Admech.

GW listened to people complaining that Combat Patrols were the same from edition to edition which stymied growth of certain factions. Now, they shift it up so if you want to save some dosh, buy the current one and the new one and you'll have saved 30% on average across multiple boxes to get a large force.

That said, GW is not going to put a Stompa in a Combat Patrol.

Gorkanaut maybe.

Hahaha, yes he probably means a *orkanaut. The Stompa has been, what 850 points or so for the past few editions (i.e. priced out of the game).

Wasn't there an earlier Valrak rumour about limited time boxed sets to introduce these new custodes / CSM characters, before making the models available separately? Now he's saying something similar for Orks & Sisters too.

I could believe them doing a box with the new Mek / Boyz / Stompa as a separate thing to the combat patrol.

 Oguhmek wrote:
Hahaha, yes he probably means a *orkanaut. The Stompa has been, what 850 points or so for the past few editions (i.e. priced out of the game).

That assumes they are new cp and not limited discount new model separately later releases gw loves lately,

Though even for that stompa would be odd.

Then again cash wise about same with orkanaut...

Tallonian4th wrote:

 Matrindur wrote:

Adepta Sororitas (probably) getting a new boxset with a new HQ

I rarely believe Valrak rumours at the best of times but I really hope this one in particular isn't true. Last thing the Sisters need is another HQ, they have plenty already and GW is in a mess with the rules to attach them to units as it is.

A lot of these 'box sets' sound like they will be the new CP boxes along with each codex. The Kroot box seems to be the only one that would be something different. However if these are indeed what would be half of the old Battleboxes that is an improvement.

Sisters could do with a priest/confessor/missionary plastic kit, though. Right now we're limited to a board game character and metal models from the last century.

Not going to comment how much use that is in 10th ed, but purely in terms of models, Sisters aren't yet among the armies for which a new clampack character is the last thing they need.

Guard could do with one too...or them just cutting them out entirely.

 Geifer wrote:
Sisters could do with a priest/confessor/missionary plastic kit, though. Right now we're limited to a board game character and metal models from the last century.

Not going to comment how much use that is in 10th ed, but purely in terms of models, Sisters aren't yet among the armies for which a new clampack character is the last thing they need.

Sisters need death cultists and crusaders, and maybe some rules for using Redemptionists as a form of Frateris militia.

I wonder if GW are potentially looking to lower their SKU to 3rd parties by doing more boxed bundle sets in the future.

So instead of a 3rd party having to stock dozens of models per faction they could stock two or three army bundles; a few characters and then the rest might be on order/direct order only or just not required.

If Sisters get a “new” HQ I’d rather they just released a Palatine kit with more options than “the good gun or the bad one” available.

 Mr_Rose wrote:
If Sisters get a “new” HQ I’d rather they just released a Palatine kit with more options than “the good gun or the bad one” available.

That's still a step up over the new commissar! I wonder if GW thinks of HQs as being in two tiers, and we get stuff with lots of options like the Castellan and the Canoness, and then the losers like the Commissar and Palatine. There's no reason at all for them not to have put some extra options on the sprue.

I think GW views one-option named and non named leaders as a quick filler model. Something that doesn't cost them as much to develop and cast and which can be used to keep attention on an army and give them something to market without having to invest as much into them or change up the army in a big way like adding a new unit etc...

The only time they really become an issue is for example Fyreslayers where you've a very small army to start with that then doesn't get anything but leaders for several years

Tallonian4th wrote:

 Matrindur wrote:

Adepta Sororitas (probably) getting a new boxset with a new HQ

I rarely believe Valrak rumours at the best of times but I really hope this one in particular isn't true.

Hm. Even if this wasn’t a rumor it is what is most likely to be expected;
Their current Combat Patrol is composed of all the pre-relaunch ”here is a taste of what’s to come”-kits. They have all since been replaced by newer versions (with the exception of the Rhino, maybe?), and lack most of the options of their newer variants (the seraphims only come with bolt pistols, for instance). So it really seems like they should get a ”normal” discount box/combat patrol. :O

And they’ve gotten a hefty release over the last couple of editions. Which probably puts them firmly in the ”1 model with the codex, and that’s it”-camp, with most armies, for this edition.

That said, I totally agree with the weirdness/confusion on how rhe characters in our index is currently written. And a new character seems low in priority.
On the other hand, as a Crusade-player I would appreciate some generic character options for leading zephyrims and such.

Otoh normal cp would mean less models for same cost trading options for models. I found these great to build up bulk cheaply.

(also helped to fight off attack of the clones syndrome)

If anyone us interested, some of the recent Army boxes are back in the GW online store although Votann and Tyranids are out of stock.

 Shakalooloo wrote:
Sisters need death cultists and crusaders...

More likely to be removed from the Codex completely than receive new kits.

tneva82 wrote:
Otoh normal cp would mean less models for same cost trading options for models. I found these great to build up bulk cheaply.

(also helped to fight off attack of the clones syndrome)

For sure!
Since they’re all unique sculpts it would mean losing out on something. And some of the sculpts are quite nice in the com.pat. I especially dig the Repentia Superior which is just amazing ✨👌🏼 and has a really cool energy going for it

Stompa and Orkanaut both cost the same, 90% of the price of a Combat Patrol box. There is zero chance of either one being in a Combat Patrol.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Stompa and Orkanaut both cost the same, 90% of the price of a Combat Patrol box. There is zero chance of either one being in a Combat Patrol.

In the past, the Magmadroth from the Fyreslayers Start Collecting box literally cost more on its own than the Start Collecting box itself did, despite all the extra stuff that came in the combat patrol.

Don't assume relative pricing to be what dictates the eligibility of something to be included in a bundle.

 Shakalooloo wrote:

 Geifer wrote:
Sisters could do with a priest/confessor/missionary plastic kit, though. Right now we're limited to a board game character and metal models from the last century.

Not going to comment how much use that is in 10th ed, but purely in terms of models, Sisters aren't yet among the armies for which a new clampack character is the last thing they need.

Sisters need death cultists and crusaders, and maybe some rules for using Redemptionists as a form of Frateris militia.

No. We have novitiates, there's absolutely no need to waste resources on frateris militia.

I mean, if it's not Imperial Fists, Valrak knows next to nothing. It could be Grot Tanks he's confusing for a Stompa for all we know.

For all the gak he gets, he seems to be right quite often. And him being right seems to make people mad, which is irrational.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
For all the gak he gets, he seems to be right quite often. And him being right seems to make people mad, which is irrational.

Valraks sources are one of the most trustworthy sources for years now, the only other source I trust more is Whitefang over on TGA.
But what the person above you said is also true, not that his sources are wrong but that he himself has only basic knowledge (or just doesn't care) about factions that aren't his primary interest (which would mainly be Space Marines). At least thats the image I get from his videos.
So for example I wouldn't be surprised if his sources just told him the Ork box would have their big robot inside and every ork robot is just a stompa for him but it could also be a Gorka-/Morkanaut instead

If it is an actual stompa, hopefully it gets a couple of new sprues to give it more weapon options

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
For all the gak he gets, he seems to be right quite often. And him being right seems to make people mad, which is irrational.

Agreed. I don't watch his videos much, but in the ones I've seen he seems pretty honest about whether he's got good intel or is just making inspired guesses. And his predictions do seem to often be correct. I'm not sure where all the hate comes from, but then I feel the same way about the internet in general...

 Snord wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
For all the gak he gets, he seems to be right quite often. And him being right seems to make people mad, which is irrational.

Agreed. I don't watch his videos much, but in the ones I've seen he seems pretty honest about whether he's got good intel or is just making inspired guesses. And his predictions do seem to often be correct. I'm not sure where all the hate comes from, but then I feel the same way about the internet in general...

He's a Yorkshireman, we're a bit like marmite generally.

 Matrindur wrote:

So for example I wouldn't be surprised if his sources just told him the Ork box would have their big robot inside and every ork robot is just a stompa for him but it could also be a Gorka-/Morkanaut instead

Which would still make no sense for CP unless CP prices are going up big time. But so far combat patrols been same price so hard to see them redoing every CP so far done to new price point...We just got 3 new ones!

But of course it might not be CP but just new model + discount models limited print run with new model separately later type of thing.

 Matrindur wrote:

So for example I wouldn't be surprised if his sources just told him the Ork box would have their big robot inside and every ork robot is just a stompa for him but it could also be a Gorka-/Morkanaut instead

Yeah this would be entirely on brand for Valrak. Whenever I see one of his rumours my usual reaction is "something like that will happen, but maybe not exactly that".

tneva82 wrote:

 Matrindur wrote:

So for example I wouldn't be surprised if his sources just told him the Ork box would have their big robot inside and every ork robot is just a stompa for him but it could also be a Gorka-/Morkanaut instead

Which would still make no sense for CP unless CP prices are going up big time. But so far combat patrols been same price so hard to see them redoing every CP so far done to new price point...We just got 3 new ones!

But of course it might not be CP but just new model + discount models limited print run with new model separately later type of thing.

I expect GW's new plan is the latter. They've finally figured out that boxes like Eldritch Omens aren't the best way to dsitribute new models in a bundle, because customers are put off over paying for a second faction that they don't collect.

Instead I suspect the next few codexes will get a schedule like this:
1) Release the codex alongside a limited Battleforce-style box that contains a new unit, such as this Mek guy
2) A little while later, release that model separately alongside an updated CP box

This way anyone inspired by the codex release can get 1000pts+ at a discounted price and is more likely to take the leap. Anyone already collecting that faction might be tempted to buy more than just the one new unit.

tneva82 wrote:

 Matrindur wrote:

So for example I wouldn't be surprised if his sources just told him the Ork box would have their big robot inside and every ork robot is just a stompa for him but it could also be a Gorka-/Morkanaut instead

Which would still make no sense for CP unless CP prices are going up big time. But so far combat patrols been same price so hard to see them redoing every CP so far done to new price point...We just got 3 new ones!

But of course it might not be CP but just new model + discount models limited print run with new model separately later type of thing.

The Ork box is for sure not a CP as it fits the discounts on the normal boxsets perfectly.

If the new Mekboy is Redemptor size he is likely going to be 60€, same as the Redemptor or Ghazghkull. 20 Boyz would be 85€ and the Stompa/Morkanaut/Gorkanaut are all 110€ which is 255€ in total. At the normal pricepoint of 170€ that would be a 33% discount which is exactly what these kind of boxes are aimed at.
Between the Stompa and the Gorka/Morkanaut its just that the stompa is quite old and while the Morka/Gorkanaut also don't reach quite the quality of modern kits they are still better than the Stompa.
And while some older stuff makes sense in boxsets they normally don't put as old stuff inside as the stompa would be.

Same is true for the Custodes set from the last rumours by the way. That one would be 38% at normal boxset prices so will also be a boxset not a CP.

The Dark Angels Combat Patrol on the other hand would only be 18% instead of the new CP norm of 28%. But changing the Intercessors to Heavy Intercessors would be too much at 41% so the most likely version is inlcuding the new upgrade sprue which would result in 30% which is in line with the other CPs.
The Tau CP would be 32% so also in line with other stuff.

ERJAK wrote:

 Shakalooloo wrote:

 Geifer wrote:
Sisters could do with a priest/confessor/missionary plastic kit, though. Right now we're limited to a board game character and metal models from the last century.

Not going to comment how much use that is in 10th ed, but purely in terms of models, Sisters aren't yet among the armies for which a new clampack character is the last thing they need.

Sisters need death cultists and crusaders, and maybe some rules for using Redemptionists as a form of Frateris militia.

No. We have novitiates, there's absolutely no need to waste resources on frateris militia.

You're right. We should probably waste those resources on more Primaris.

As great as it is to have plastic Sisters, I don't want to see GW neglect the Ecclesiarchy side of the army like they did Tau auxiliaries. It robs the army of the breadth it should by all rights have.

Bit of a moot point though if the rumor is for a single new character.

 Geifer wrote:

As great as it is to have plastic Sisters, I don't want to see GW neglect the Ecclesiarchy side of the army like they did Tau auxiliaries. It robs the army of the breadth it should by all rights have.

Good news is that Tau auxiliaries seem to be getting quite a lot this edition with multiple kroot kits with the codex and vespids rumoured for kill team so we might also see Ecclesiarchy stuff for the sisters in the future