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 Manfred von Drakken wrote:
Looks like they stealth-dropped a Necrons FAQ.

I don't have the 'dex yet - are those four things nerfs or clarifications?

 Dysartes wrote:

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:
Looks like they stealth-dropped a Necrons FAQ.

I don't have the 'dex yet - are those four things nerfs or clarifications?

Off the top of my head, the two strat erratas are nerfs, and the 'FAQs' are explaining that the abilities in question aren't saddled with normal restrictions (or don't need a prerequisite), so very much not nerfs.

The first strat is, I think, preventing the strat from buffing warriors and immortals (they were being affected by [Cryptek] the keyword (because one was in the unit and passing it on), but now its targeted at 'Cryptek models' which is totally different), and the second is limiting the number of units affected.

Voss wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:
Looks like they stealth-dropped a Necrons FAQ.

I don't have the 'dex yet - are those four things nerfs or clarifications?

Off the top of my head, the two strat erratas are nerfs, and the 'FAQs' are explaining that the abilities in question aren't saddled with normal restrictions (or don't need a prerequisite), so very much not nerfs.

The first strat is, I think, preventing the strat from buffing warriors and immortals (they were being affected by [Cryptek] the keyword (because one was in the unit and passing it on), but now its targeted at 'Cryptek models' which is totally different), and the second is limiting the number of units affected.

The second actually expands the number of units affected, as it now includes the Triarch Stalker and not just the Praetorians.

drbored wrote:
Valrak is a content creator first and foremost. He's deep in the algorithm

40k youtubers are a snooze to me, but I’ll jump right on the patreon the day Valrak interviews Paddy Pimblett, the amazing chocolatier

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/01/14/sunday-preview-deathwing-assault/

Is there any info if the old deathwing is going OOP? Obviously there’s the new knights and standard models, but the old kit had command options that neither new kit has

 GaroRobe wrote:
Is there any info if the old deathwing is going OOP? Obviously there’s the new knights and standard models, but the old kit had command options that neither new kit has

We’ll have to see the sprue. Hopefully included

 jspyd3rx wrote:

 GaroRobe wrote:
Is there any info if the old deathwing is going OOP? Obviously there’s the new knights and standard models, but the old kit had command options that neither new kit has

We’ll have to see the sprue. Hopefully included

The standard deathwing terminators are just the new upgrade sprue, though. And I think deathwing knights only have the options for swords or maces

 GaroRobe wrote:
Is there any info if the old deathwing is going OOP? Obviously there’s the new knights and standard models, but the old kit had command options that neither new kit has

I get the feeling that they are going. They also look tiny next to the upscaled Termies.They are also "temporarily out of stock" on all websites it seems.

There are I think 3 units that will be disappearing with that box. Strikemaster(he used to be a sergeant so it is just back to status quo), The Champion of Caliban, and the apothecary. I can imagine the Champion of Caliban either disappearing completely or coming in a campaign later on. The apothecary will most likely just be a generic one that we get later on.

I personally get the feeling that GW wants the base stuff(termies, marines) to be generic and instead keep the unique stuff to the non-codex compliant chapters such as the Jets, plasma speeder, and Deathwing Knights.

Does this info mean that the DA Codex supplement or new cards are not yet coming out separately?
If so, that's a few hours I can spend not in a GW online store queue.

 Gimgamgoo wrote:
Does this info mean that the DA Codex supplement or new cards are not yet coming out separately?
If so, that's a few hours I can spend not in a GW online store queue.

This launch box will be around a month ahead of the main release. If they're sticking to the 'Spring' roadmap date then earliest date for that is preorder Feb 17th, in store March 2nd

Yes. Not mentioned, not coming.

anyone else kinda hoping for a new Dark Angels Combat patrol with some of the new figures, instead of just the generic Primaris?

mithril2098 wrote:
anyone else kinda hoping for a new Dark Angels Combat patrol with some of the new figures, instead of just the generic Primaris?

I'm not sure what you mean. Any new Combat patrol is going to be primaris. Unless they also get outrider bikes with a similar chapter-specific sprue (like the terminator sprue), I don't know what you're expecting. DA are a 'generic' codex chapter once you get past the organizational quirks (which is mostly just the 2nd company, since the veteran first company that's mostly terminators isn't all that weird). Fluff-wise they're 'special,' game and model-wise they're... really not.

I think here's been a rumour about a new DA Combat Patrol. Might have 5 Hellblasters in it. I don't remember the full list.

mostly i was thinking that the new DA upgrade sprue would allow for a lot more interesting Combat patrol both visually and compiosition wise.
so rather than just a chaplain, 5 intercessors, 3 Interceptors, a dreadnought, and a sprue of DA shoulder pads, you'd have say, the chaplain and 5 intercessors (perhaps switched to the melee type?), then 5 terminators and a trio of bikers.

it would feel a lot more DA, and less "ultramarines but in green with winged swords"

The current rumour is:
5 Hellblasters
10 Intercessors (of some nature)
3 Bladeguard
Gravis Captain

I'm trying to figure out the 20 datacards, because I can only account for 19 unique datasheets currently:
Azrael
Asmodai
Ezekiel
Belial
Sammael
Lazarus
Lion El'Jonson
Deathwing Terminator Squad
Deathwing Command Squad
Deathwing Knights
Deathwing Strikemaster
Ravenwing Talonmaster
Ravenwing Black Knights
Ravenwing Command Squad
Land Speeder Vengeance
Ravenwing Darkshroud
Nephilim Jetfighter
Ravenwing Dark Talon
Inner Circle Companions
That's 19 out of 20 accounted for. Maybe the 20th card is just some kind of rule summary type thing or something? Or is there yet another unit we haven't been shown yet?

 ZergSmasher wrote:
I'm trying to figure out the 20 datacards, because I can only account for 19 unique datasheets currently:
Azrael
Asmodai
Ezekiel
Belial
Sammael
Lazarus
Lion El'Jonson
Deathwing Terminator Squad
Deathwing Command Squad
Deathwing Knights
Deathwing Strikemaster
Ravenwing Talonmaster
Ravenwing Black Knights
Ravenwing Command Squad
Land Speeder Vengeance
Ravenwing Darkshroud
Nephilim Jetfighter
Ravenwing Dark Talon
Inner Circle Companions
That's 19 out of 20 accounted for. Maybe the 20th card is just some kind of rule summary type thing or something? Or is there yet another unit we haven't been shown yet?

Maybe cards for Combat Patrol? Not sure if those would be included in this box and with the Necron/Admech preorder it listed them separately as X datasheets and Y Combat Patrol cards.
But if they are included in the box and in the 20 cards that would mean only 16 actual unit cards and four CP cards with the rumoured contents which sounds realistic if they delete a few units (Very likely Deathwing command squad and maybe Strikemaster?)

Voss wrote:

mithril2098 wrote:
anyone else kinda hoping for a new Dark Angels Combat patrol with some of the new figures, instead of just the generic Primaris?

I'm not sure what you mean. Any new Combat patrol is going to be primaris. Unless they also get outrider bikes with a similar chapter-specific sprue (like the terminator sprue), I don't know what you're expecting. DA are a 'generic' codex chapter once you get past the organizational quirks (which is mostly just the 2nd company, since the veteran first company that's mostly terminators isn't all that weird). Fluff-wise they're 'special,' game and model-wise they're... really not.

The new DA Chapter-specific sprue isn't just for Terminators even though they are a heavy focus of it, it also has one of those facy Ravenwing bike accessories

@Zergsmasher - would Interrogator Chaplain count as a unique data card? Does Sammael still get the option for his land speeder because he might have 2.

Price:


Small increase but still very nice discount on this box

OK that's a small surprise. I worked out the approximate RRP of the box based on similar items and the total came to around the same as an xmas battleforce, and was expecting £140/$250.

For anyone curious this works out as paying for the terminators & knights, getting Belial for roughly half price, then the upgrade sprues, transfers, supplement, and datacards are 'free'. It's a decent buy if you specifically want Deathwing/DA, not so great for anyone just after some terminator models.

Orks are slated for some changes too in Spring 2024, right? Has the rumour mill churned out anything related to the mighty green bois?

 iplay40k.com wrote:
Orks are slated for some changes too in Spring 2024, right? Has the rumour mill churned out anything related to the mighty green bois?

current rumours:

Orks: The teased silhouette is a Mekboy in a Meksuit thats the same size as a Redemptor Dreadnought and will come in a boxset: new Mekboy, 20 Boyz, Stompa (yes that Stompa)

 Matrindur wrote:
current rumours:

Orks: The teased silhouette is a Mekboy in a Meksuit thats the same size as a Redemptor Dreadnought and will come in a boxset: new Mekboy, 20 Boyz, Stompa (yes that Stompa)

Interesting, thanks for the info! Some of my friends were talking about the possibility of a new Combat Patrol like the Space Marines got but I don't think that'll happen now we've seen the new Hachette set. Lucky for me I've always wanted a Stompa

 iplay40k.com wrote:

 Matrindur wrote:
current rumours:

Orks: The teased silhouette is a Mekboy in a Meksuit thats the same size as a Redemptor Dreadnought and will come in a boxset: new Mekboy, 20 Boyz, Stompa (yes that Stompa)

Interesting, thanks for the info! Some of my friends were talking about the possibility of a new Combat Patrol like the Space Marines got but I don't think that'll happen now we've seen the new Hachette set. Lucky for me I've always wanted a Stompa

Its pretty likely every new codex will get a new combat patrol as every codex until now got one and DA and Tau also have rumours for a new one. The Hachette CP series isn't really an indicator as the old CP rules could still be sued, fr example Admech got new rules for their new CP but still kept the old CP rules too

 Matrindur wrote:
Its pretty likely every new codex will get a new combat patrol as every codex until now got one and DA and Tau also have rumours for a new one. The Hachette CP series isn't really an indicator as the old CP rules could still be sued, fr example Admech got new rules for their new CP but still kept the old CP rules too

That'd be two new Ork box sets then, right? Either way looks like I'll be emptying my bank account

 iplay40k.com wrote:

That'd be two new Ork box sets then, right? Either way looks like I'll be emptying my bank account

Yeah it's sounds like (though still unconfirmed) that some factions with just a single new model will get a Battleforce-style one-off box before the character gets released separately, similar to the recent AOS boxes. Then a long term combat patrol in addition to that.

I assume the goal is getting people to pick up both as an entry point in starting the faction.

 iplay40k.com wrote:

 Matrindur wrote:
Its pretty likely every new codex will get a new combat patrol as every codex until now got one and DA and Tau also have rumours for a new one. The Hachette CP series isn't really an indicator as the old CP rules could still be sued, fr example Admech got new rules for their new CP but still kept the old CP rules too

That'd be two new Ork box sets then, right? Either way looks like I'll be emptying my bank account

Yes, wouldn't be strange too since both DA and Tau who have actual rumours about CPs also got an army set/has rumours about an army set