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 clodax66 wrote:
that Vindicare Assassin’s looks very good. First unit that ignores lone operative and does a lot of damage. No more leaving your autarch wayleaper out there. He will one shot him.

He'd have to use his once-per-game ability to force through devastating wounds to do it (with a 69% success rate to avoid a 1 on hit or wound), otherwise invulnerable saves will usually trigger (down to 41% success per shot against a 4++). But definitely worth it for trying to take out a warlord.

Interesting that the rifle is 2+ to hit and heavy, so the Vindicare may as well be moving around rather than standing still. So if your enemy hides behind a wall like a coward, you can go hunting for him without reducing your chances to take out other targets of opportunity...

The suggestion that Arbites might be able to take Rhinos makes me suddenly interested in Imperial Agents.

 Patriarch wrote:

 clodax66 wrote:
that Vindicare Assassin’s looks very good. First unit that ignores lone operative and does a lot of damage. No more leaving your autarch wayleaper out there. He will one shot him.

He'd have to use his once-per-game ability to force through devastating wounds to do it (with a 69% success rate to avoid a 1 on hit or wound), otherwise invulnerable saves will usually trigger (down to 41% success per shot against a 4++). But definitely worth it for trying to take out a warlord.

Interesting that the rifle is 2+ to hit and heavy, so the Vindicare may as well be moving around rather than standing still. So if your enemy hides behind a wall like a coward, you can go hunting for him without reducing your chances to take out other targets of opportunity...

Too bad that special rule is for the rifle only. If he could use it with the pistol it would be quite interesting. Might see him used in a manner similar to Sly Marbo.

It's not fw brass or resin I have the doors and the brass lays to flat and looks less sloppy than those doors. They are also present on the exhaust armor. Here's examples of fw stuff

I am kinda leaning brass but what the hell did they do to them?
And have they used old fw stuff in this context before?

The beauty of 3D printing, all the special doors and symbols you could ever want!

The title of it is longer than the info provided (they could at least show some stats) https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/08/08/who-are-the-three-named-inquisitors-in-codex-imperial-agents-and-what-makes-them-tick/

Reading that article makes me wish they'd release or rerelease Inquisitor with some rules updates and 28mm minis

 Shadow Walker wrote:
The title of it is longer than the info provided (they could at least show some stats) https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/08/08/who-are-the-three-named-inquisitors-in-codex-imperial-agents-and-what-makes-them-tick/

continuing the trend of the psychic special rule being specifically a downside in nearly every circumstance. this is a really funny bit

chaos0xomega wrote:
Reading that article makes me wish they'd release or rerelease Inquisitor with some rules updates and 28mm minis

And a Made To Order run on the 54mm. Ideally about a year from now, when I’ll have more than enough money to buy one of each.

Greedy Doc is Greedy!

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:
The title of it is longer than the info provided (they could at least show some stats) https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/08/08/who-are-the-three-named-inquisitors-in-codex-imperial-agents-and-what-makes-them-tick/

continuing the trend of the psychic special rule being specifically a downside in nearly every circumstance. this is a really funny bit

Not a change as this is her current rule, but yeah, its weird that Pskyer is only a downside of a keyword.

Well, I guess that's confirmation that Kazamarov is out of the codex.

 LunarSol wrote:

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:
The title of it is longer than the info provided (they could at least show some stats) https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/08/08/who-are-the-three-named-inquisitors-in-codex-imperial-agents-and-what-makes-them-tick/

continuing the trend of the psychic special rule being specifically a downside in nearly every circumstance. this is a really funny bit

Not a change as this is her current rule, but yeah, its weird that Pskyer is only a downside of a keyword.

Well to be fair, most Psyker models have additional abilities represented by their psychic powers then an equivalent character, and/or have a psychic shooting attack that is in addition to other shooting, and is usually pretty potent for a character ranged attack. Although I agree there should be an upside to the psyker keyword as well, like maybe a universal strat or something that keys off it.

as to the article

I don't know why you would ever bring any of these named models in a all-comers list. This looks like it is just pure fluff stuff, which is fine and thematic, but this book is going to be a wrinkle with competitive play. I am betting each of the three specific detachments for the Ordos are heavily themed not just on their units, but on the enemy. So you will have a situation where Ordos Malleus is not very good against the field, but encounters a daemon or daemon heavy list and BAMM! now it is utterly broken. I know people are going to hate me for the next sentence but...... with (or if as I don't know yet) detachments and/or characters and abilities that focus on a specific enemy like this and as prevalent as this is in the book, those detachments should not be recommended for competitive play. I actually do love the fluff of this, and I want to pit my daemon engine or cultist traitors v. the proper Ordo which I think would be fun narrative or just causal battles, but competitive, I would hate to be running a daemon list at a tournament, doing really well, then get blasted because I drew an opponent whose army rules are tailored to beating my army. I don't know, maybe it is an over reaction (although historically in other editions this type of thing was an issue i.e. grey knights v. daemons) but that is just my opinion.

i think what that means is that these detachments will not be viable for the most part, since they're weak against anything other than their given target, but whenever that target is strong, that counterdetachment will in turn see a rise in popularity. it may or may not balance itself

 cuda1179 wrote:
Well, I guess that's confirmation that Kazamarov is out of the codex.

That was my first and last reflection upon this information.

 Fayric wrote:

 cuda1179 wrote:
Well, I guess that's confirmation that Kazamarov is out of the codex.

That was my first and last reflection upon this information.

Eisenhorn is also gone! And presumably generic terminator inquisitors, even though this would have been a perfect time to release an updated one, and more crowd-pleasing than a defiled Coteaz.

I'm a bit baffled the generic is both apparently remaining and not getting a new sculpt.

There was the event model so technically at one point in the last year there was an Inquisitor model.

Who knows really.

If GW would learn to embrace a modicum of kitbashing, the Henchmen kit definitely gives a couple solid build options for Inquisitors. Just needs a power weapon / fist.

chaos0xomega wrote:
Reading that article makes me wish they'd release or rerelease Inquisitor with some rules updates and 28mm minis

Given that they produced the Inquisition Kill Team kit, I’m surprised they haven’t added them as a gang option for Necromunda. There’s been house rules for Inquisimunda for decades, it seems such an obvious move.

 Jadenim wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
Reading that article makes me wish they'd release or rerelease Inquisitor with some rules updates and 28mm minis

Given that they produced the Inquisition Kill Team kit, I’m surprised they haven’t added them as a gang option for Necromunda. There’s been house rules for Inquisimunda for decades, it seems such an obvious move.

It's a bit of a fluff conceit of Necromunda in general that, somehow, the Inquisition seemingly doesn't get involved to any great degree (though they are mentioned as present in the destruction of Hive Secundus) so personally I'd be more surprised if they did add them in as an official gang. It's a great set for conversion potential or for hired gun-types for 'Munda mind.

Mentioned as present? They turned up, executed a planetary governor, ordered the release of all the archaeotech weapons from the eye and levelled the hive


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 Shakalooloo wrote:

 Fayric wrote:

 cuda1179 wrote:
Well, I guess that's confirmation that Kazamarov is out of the codex.

That was my first and last reflection upon this information.

Eisenhorn is also gone! And presumably generic terminator inquisitors, even though this would have been a perfect time to release an updated one, and more crowd-pleasing than a defiled Coteaz.

But when they do a new sculpt for Kara or a terminator inquisitor they can do another new codex! Why waste all their ammo on one book tax opportunity when they can return to the well again and again

Billicus wrote:
Mentioned as present? They turned up, executed a planetary governor, ordered the release of all the archaeotech weapons from the eye and levelled the hive


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 Shakalooloo wrote:

 Fayric wrote:

 cuda1179 wrote:
Well, I guess that's confirmation that Kazamarov is out of the codex.

That was my first and last reflection upon this information.

Eisenhorn is also gone! And presumably generic terminator inquisitors, even though this would have been a perfect time to release an updated one, and more crowd-pleasing than a defiled Coteaz.

But when they do a new sculpt for Kara or a terminator inquisitor they can do another new codex! Why waste all their ammo on one book tax opportunity when they can return to the well again and again

Like I said; they were present

Though it was the (then new) Lord Helmawr who moved the Eye and unleashed it on Secundus, not the Inquisition themselves.

Tbh more than other Inquisitor models this book needed a second retinue sprue with Deamonhosts, Jokero, astropaths and Crusaders on it to make them more interesting and give them some hitting power.

Redemptionists make for great Inquisitor models, and also, more or less, fill that role in the necromunda setting (or so they think )

 The Phazer wrote:
Tbh more than other Inquisitor models this book needed a second retinue sprue with Deamonhosts, Jokero, astropaths and Crusaders on it to make them more interesting and give them some hitting power.

Pretty much anything would have been an upgrade on the abomination that is new Coteaz.

 The Phazer wrote:
Tbh more than other Inquisitor models this book needed a second retinue sprue with Deamonhosts, Jokero, astropaths and Crusaders on it to make them more interesting and give them some hitting power.

Or they could release both additional retinue models, as above ones, and generic multiple option (maybe even multiple bodies one) kit for an inquisitor.

I wonder if chaos and xenos will eventually get similar "unaligned" comedies.

Chaos can get Codex: The Lost and the Damned and put the cultists and traitor guard type units there, chaos beastmen, along with some of the more esoteric stuff. The lost and the damned army list from 3rd Ed was great, was such a fun army to play, mixing guard and space marines with daemons and the like.

Xenos Mercs could give us stuff like Zoats, the random aliens from the Drukhari books, etc. And the various random xenos stuff that's popped up over the years.

Come to think of it, you think Legion of the Damned might eventually make it's way back to the table via Imperial Agents?

Personally I was hoping that the Arbites would get a plastic Throne of Judgement HQ model and Karamzov would then be an extra-fancy option with his triple-melta cannon (regular Judges just get a hurricane shotgun or something.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/08/09/the-myriad-missions-of-warhammer-40000-boarding-actions/

Codex is in the wild and its bad. Like, absolutely, hilariously bad. Most of this stuff has been nerfed beyond what its already not being taken for and the detachments are all pretty underwhelming.

DW Vets might have come out the best, if just because the hammer squads are pretty untouched and can ride in Rhinos. Ordo Xenos is just a terrible version of Blackspear though and really should not see play. Points will decide a lot of this, with stuff like the GK Terminators being far more expensive than their in faction counterparts for less. I have zero idea if anything here will see play.