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I dont really have a prob with that. For me personally, the original models always looked terrible, these ones at least have modern proportions

These look like dog gak. Whoever approved these needs to be let go, the Death Masks look like generic CAD files for a blank human head with a teardrop and tubing hastily sculpted on top. They’re worse than the old minis, and the truly insane part is that we’re in the age of digital sculpting where all you have to do is copy paste a template and yet somehow they are completely different from the masks of Dante and the Sanguinor even though they’re all Death Masks made to capture the likeness of the same person. How?

Also the poses and paint jobs suck too.

Templar players must be relieved that their Sword Brethren came in boxes of 5 instead of 3! Dodged a bullet.

 Kothra wrote:

 Tamereth wrote:
These new models are so good I immediately went and ordered two boxes of the old ones from somewhere that had them in stock.

Talk about suck all of the character out of them.

I've never played Blood Angels or had much interest in building an army and even I felt that compulsion.

I mean mine will probably get head swaps and see use in my 30K army. I already have one squad of them but felt the need to get a second while I still could. I've just lost all interest modern in 40k.

These are odd.

Whilst not really a patch on the original Sanguinary Guard? I’m struggling to say they’re actually bad sculpts.

The detailing and posing is fine, but they’re definitely lacking the glory of the originals.

Main issue is they're really just primaris marines w a couple bits swapped amd a gold paint scheme. They're very minimalist nothing special designs.

Maybe they look better in person.

Looked at front on they’re nowt special (armour detailing aside).

Of course, during a game we see things from above. And that’s the when we’ll see the jump packs and wing detailing on the vanes. And so from a very different angle to what we’re seeing in the preview.

 zend wrote:
These look like dog gak. Whoever approved these needs to be let go, the Death Masks look like generic CAD files for a blank human head with a teardrop and tubing hastily sculpted on top. They’re worse than the old minis, and the truly insane part is that we’re in the age of digital sculpting where all you have to do is copy paste a template and yet somehow they are completely different from the masks of Dante and the Sanguinor even though they’re all Death Masks made to capture the likeness of the same person. How?

Sanguinary Guard death masks aren't of Sanguinius, only Dante's. Guard wear masks of their predecessors. It's why none of the current SG masks are the same either.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
NMM on the face plate is giving him a bumchun, like Kirk Douglas. Makes it look a bit weird.

Otherwise it’s just a pretty straight update of the original I think?

Kinda like the Sanguinary Guard. Loss of the wings is an odd choice though.

My first thought was Kurt Russell

I’m not mad, I’m just disappointed.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
NMM on the face plate is giving him a bumchun, like Kirk Douglas. Makes it look a bit weird.

Otherwise it’s just a pretty straight update of the original I think?

Kinda like the Sanguinary Guard. Loss of the wings is an odd choice though.

My first thought was Kurt Russell

See, that’s just improved my opinion!

The cheque’s in the mail!

Honestly, I kinda like the Sanguinor. Just the right amount of bling. No 10,000 skulls, no tactical rock, no 2 dozen purity seals, and just enough "floating scrolls" to lift him with looking like a hurricane in a Greek library.

The heads are a downgrade. I never liked the wings, but they were easy to leave off would have been nice to have the bits for those who wanted them.

Not a fan of the rocks. If possible I tend to excise as much rock as possible.

I am struggling to get excited about these new BA models. I had planned to get some in the hope of reviving my enthusiasm for my WiP BA, but there is definitely something 'off' about most of the new sculpts.

The Sanquinor is okay - the pose and detailing is actually pretty good. But his head looks like Cornelius from Planet of the Apes (the original movie). The Sanuinary Guard just look really bland. Their spears are like crappy WHFB elf spears, and the death masks look like shop mannequins (a problem that the early Stormcast - which these resemble - also suffered from). The little wings stuck on the jump packs look lame, and are bound to snap off when the model falls over. I think they could be made to look good, but they're not inspiring.

*Sad BA noises*

Sanquinator pose… boring with a face from Planet of the Apes.

Sanquinary Guard are a downgrade, looking closer to Stormcast than BA.

No thank you.

I can't see past the sandals.

Kind of funny that they dont get that the purpose of the wrist mounted bolters is to be able to hold the encarine weapons in two hands.

I actually dont mind the new generation of Sang Guard. they would probably look cool with another painting style. I really like spears, and think it was a great idea to ditch the wings.

 Fayric wrote:
Kind of funny that they dont get that the purpose of the wrist mounted bolters is to be able to hold the encarine weapons in two hands.

I actually dont mind the new generation of Sang Guard. they would probably look cool with another painting style. I really like spears, and think it was a great idea to ditch the wings.

Why ditch the wings? I could see reducing them in size (or keeping them the same size but on the larger model), but they're a pretty iconic design.

 GaroRobe wrote:
Those aren’t wings

The sanguinor actually has wings and those flaps as well

It’s just something primaris jump packs have. It’s nothing new

And the winglets are backwards! The primary flight feathers are on the leading edge.

Not really sure what's people's issue with the new sang guard is. Sure, they look corny as hell, but so did the old ones. At least these have better anatomy.

Though I think that BA muscle armour looks better with the sort of narrower lower legs that Dante and Sanguinor have, but the old guard had the wide lower legs as well. It also looks less cheesy if it is not painted gold.

 Crimson wrote:
Not really sure what's people's issue with the new sang guard is. Sure, they look corny as hell, but so did the old ones. At least these have better anatomy.

Though I think that BA muscle armour looks better with the sort of narrower lower legs that Dante and Sanguinor have, but the old guard had the wide lower legs as well. It also looks less cheesy if it is not painted gold.

Agreed, the old sanguinary guard are hideous even when completely disregarding their bad proportions. The new models aren't great, but are an improvement from the older ones.

 Tastyfish wrote:

 Fayric wrote:
Kind of funny that they dont get that the purpose of the wrist mounted bolters is to be able to hold the encarine weapons in two hands.

I actually dont mind the new generation of Sang Guard. they would probably look cool with another painting style. I really like spears, and think it was a great idea to ditch the wings.

Why ditch the wings? I could see reducing them in size (or keeping them the same size but on the larger model), but they're a pretty iconic design.

Just my personal preference. I personally like how the primaris models are less blinged out and more sensible. I know lots of people have left the wings off the old guys, because its not a great look (I got 15 sanguinary guard myself, but they actually have the wings on -most of the time).

I'm a little disappointed in these, but then I never really cared for the old ones either. Those wrist mounted bolters made the models look unbalanced then and it seems to have continued. In a weird way it seems like these ones are worse because otherwise in general I like the proportions of the primaris range, while the old range was goofier so the goofiness of the sanguinary guard didn't stick out so much.

Sanguinor is a bit of a nothing burger - old one seemed old at the time (that T-pose felt like it was an 80s mold) and the new one seems old now. I think this suffers for the same reason the new Teclis does, for me - the pose seems like what it's wanting to conveying is a model descending from the heavens limned in radiance, except we're both looking at the them on the table from above, and both 40k and AoS are drowned in large models so everything's competing for your attention.

Sanguinary guard new heads look like Teal'c 😂

I'll be honest and say the Sang Guard having wings while Dante didn't was always odd to me. So when the new Dante didn't start having wings I wasn't surprised the Sang guard were rumoured to be losing them. Lack of wings aside they are alright, though I think they should have kept their nipples like on a Greek cuirass.

New Sanguinor is alright, though I want to see a scale shot next to something. He should be "primarch" sized and as he is rumoured to be a manifestation of the warp at least that would explain why he is. Never been a fan of the Primarchs being oversized space marines, always seemed WoWish to me. But if Gulli and the Lion are going to be embiggend than he should be as well.

Bubbatron wrote:
Sanguinary guard new heads look like Teal'c 😂

Yeah.

Not bad.

I could find a use for that.

New rumours from Valrak:

Next Kill Team box after the Vespids vs Scions is apparently Armoured Orks (Bombs squig etc)vs Ogryns and Ratlings so no flying theme for the whole season (Orks also on the ground)
Both sides are new kits, no upgrade sprues.

If this is a replacement for the old Ogryns I don't think Nork Deddog will live through this

Otherwise just a lot of speculations and repeating old rumours so if you want to listen to that watch the video

 Matrindur wrote:


If this is a replacement for the old Ogryns I don't think Nork Deddog will live through this

Well, he should be dead at the time of Indomitus anyway? Also GW may find the way to make some upgraded (by Cawl of course) version of him, with a new, very expensive, kit.

oh, a ratling kill team would be great. there's that really old rumor engine that people thought might be a ratling christmas model, which i don't think ever reappeared. i imagine it would be sniper-heavy, but and i suppose the ogryns could balance that (tho while i think this would replace the old metal ratlings, i don't think this would replace the existing ogryn plastic kit)

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:
i imagine it would be sniper-heavy, but and i suppose the ogryns could balance that

Exactly. Small uns for shooty things and big uns for smashy things.