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Hmm, it's a shame my MT army was built with Eisenkern minis lol. Gonna have to figure out a kit bash option there

Much better than the current range of ugly ugly Scions

I'm not really seeing the difference. They have grav chutes and are standing on tactical base bitz now? Great.

Billicus wrote:
I'm not really seeing the difference. They have grav chutes and are standing on tactical base bitz now? Great.

there's a lot more detail to the models, and they feel more lithe and less bulky. oh, and better proportions

They look nice enough, though I'd like to see them with a different paintjob. This one isn't doing anything for me, much like the original Scions one.

Personally I would have preferred to see updated aesthetics that move slightly further into the old 3rd Edition style, it's not that those are bad, just from my personal pov kinda underwhelming.

But I've never been a fan of the Scion aesthetics. The helmets just looks too comical, their armor is just weird, but happy for everyone who likes them. Probably end up using parts for kitbashing anyway

I there a faction that doesn't have access to jump packs anymore? I kind of liked that not everyone had everything.

 cuda1179 wrote:
I there a faction that doesn't have access to jump packs anymore? I kind of liked that not everyone had everything.

Jump packs?
Those are grav-chutes, sci-fi parachutes. Last checked they slowed your fall to survivable and that’s it. Maybe giving a bit of control so you land as a squad.

Although I wouldn't be at all surprised if GW said that actually these special grav chutes let you fly back up for short distances, making them effectively jump packs; given that grav chutes in Killteam are going to be pretty pointless otherwise.

 cuda1179 wrote:
I there a faction that doesn't have access to jump packs anymore? I kind of liked that not everyone had everything.

Erm….



Been a while, but if they are jump packs, it’s not an IG first

Dissapointed they are not Elysians. Models are okeish, there is no wow factor for me. Hopefully Vespids will be the stars of the show.

What are the chances that these are going to be a double kit for regular Scions and replace the current models?

I have not been following a lot the rumors, but wasn't suppose to be this KT a plastic swooping hawks vs the vespids?

 a_typical_hero wrote:
What are the chances that these are going to be a double kit for regular Scions and replace the current models?

You mean double kit of Scions on foot and with packs?

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 a_typical_hero wrote:
What are the chances that these are going to be a double kit for regular Scions and replace the current models?

You mean double kit of Scions on foot and with packs?

Yes.

 a_typical_hero wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 a_typical_hero wrote:
What are the chances that these are going to be a double kit for regular Scions and replace the current models?

You mean double kit of Scions on foot and with packs?

Yes.

I think that tactical rocks kinda exclude that because they are made for flying models rather than foot ones.

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 a_typical_hero wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 a_typical_hero wrote:
What are the chances that these are going to be a double kit for regular Scions and replace the current models?

You mean double kit of Scions on foot and with packs?

Yes.

I think that tactical rocks kinda exclude that because they are made for flying models rather than foot ones.

they would also struggle in replacing the old kit in that the old kit also includes the command squad (granted, it could have bits for that, but then it's essentially fitting three kits in one which seems difficult)

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 a_typical_hero wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 a_typical_hero wrote:
What are the chances that these are going to be a double kit for regular Scions and replace the current models?

You mean double kit of Scions on foot and with packs?

Yes.

I think that tactical rocks kinda exclude that because they are made for flying models rather than foot ones.

they would also struggle in replacing the old kit in that the old kit also includes the command squad (granted, it could have bits for that, but then it's essentially fitting three kits in one which seems difficult)

Or simply remove the command squad entry in the codex. Wouldn't really be surprising with todays GW

 Shadow Walker wrote:

He speaks slowly and clearly when describing models, then glosses over rules at 90 miles a minute. Smacks his lips too loudly and too often.

1/10, would not watch again.

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 a_typical_hero wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 a_typical_hero wrote:
What are the chances that these are going to be a double kit for regular Scions and replace the current models?

You mean double kit of Scions on foot and with packs?

Yes.

I think that tactical rocks kinda exclude that because they are made for flying models rather than foot ones.

Adding a tactical rock/alternative leg is how they did the jump-pack Votann in the Kill team set, so a set of 5 alternative legs to convert running guys into flying ones wouldn't be that much of a stretch for a dual kit.

I like them, their only flaw is that they aren't a redo of the old Inquisitorial Stormtrooper models from 3rd edition. Still, it gives me a bit of hope as that now makes 2 of the 4 sculpts for stormtroopers getting a glow up. And lucky for me, I rather like 3 of the 4 of them (only one not super keen on is the old 2nd edition ones).

 a_typical_hero wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 a_typical_hero wrote:
What are the chances that these are going to be a double kit for regular Scions and replace the current models?

You mean double kit of Scions on foot and with packs?

Yes.

Basic scions already have grav chutes, they are functionally the same unit - the only difference is the models we have today don't show the chutes. Either gw is going to change how basic MT function or this is just a cosmetic upgrade kit with no rules associated.

chaos0xomega wrote:
Either gw is going to change how basic MT function or this is just a cosmetic upgrade kit with no rules associated.

New ones are named Tempestus Aquilon so it is possible that it may be a different entry in a codex instead of replacement for the old kit.

Much better poses than the jump pack unit they revealed earlier this week, that’s for sure.

Should’ve been Elysian though

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 cuda1179 wrote:
I there a faction that doesn't have access to jump packs anymore? I kind of liked that not everyone had everything.

Erm….



Been a while, but if they are jump packs, it’s not an IG first

Technically that is Imperial Army, and I think the retcon is that all the wacky Rogue Trader era gear was actually Great Crusade stuff that was either lost or forbidden tech by the time of the Imperial Guard in the 41st Millennium. Things like Land Raiders and jetbikes.


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 Lord Damocles wrote:
Although I wouldn't be at all surprised if GW said that actually these special grav chutes let you fly back up for short distances, making them effectively jump packs; given that grav chutes in Killteam are going to be pretty pointless otherwise.

I think there is already lore that grav chutes can be used as ersatz jump packs. Not really surprising, it would be like jumping on the moon if you reduced your gravity.

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 a_typical_hero wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 a_typical_hero wrote:
What are the chances that these are going to be a double kit for regular Scions and replace the current models?

You mean double kit of Scions on foot and with packs?

Yes.

I think that tactical rocks kinda exclude that because they are made for flying models rather than foot ones.

They could be like the tactical rocks in the last version of the (40K) Assault Squad, which were optional. It does look like the poses of the 'flying' Scions would still work if they were on the ground.

 Matrindur wrote:

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 a_typical_hero wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 a_typical_hero wrote:
What are the chances that these are going to be a double kit for regular Scions and replace the current models?

You mean double kit of Scions on foot and with packs?

Yes.

I think that tactical rocks kinda exclude that because they are made for flying models rather than foot ones.

they would also struggle in replacing the old kit in that the old kit also includes the command squad (granted, it could have bits for that, but then it's essentially fitting three kits in one which seems difficult)

Or simply remove the command squad entry in the codex. Wouldn't really be surprising with todays GW

Maybe this box becomes the regular squad one (hopefully at 10 per!), while the current box just 'becomes' the command squad box.

 Shakalooloo wrote:

Maybe this box becomes the regular squad one (hopefully at 10 per!), while the current box just 'becomes' the command squad box.

The extra straps on these models look like they’re connected to the grav chutes, so I think these are intended to be equipped with them in every case. I’d expect the other Scions kit to remain the basic squad.

Greenfield wrote:

 Shakalooloo wrote:

Maybe this box becomes the regular squad one (hopefully at 10 per!), while the current box just 'becomes' the command squad box.

The extra straps on these models look like they’re connected to the grav chutes, so I think these are intended to be equipped with them in every case. I’d expect the other Scions kit to remain the basic squad.

Well, I remain hopeful that these new dudes may be 10 to a box, at least!

I hope for a full remake of tempestus footsloggers once the codex drop if they dont do a dual build from the start.
Would be great to see a separate Tempestor Prime and a more heavily armoured lord Commisar.

Also, weird that the Tempestus was not part of the Imperial Agents book. At least their own, old, codex had the Tempestus down as first choice for most Inquisitors.