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Andykp wrote:
Anyone got any ideas on why the vulture gunship has disappeared from legends. Guard legends were up after the other day?

If we are lucky, maybe plastic kit?

Dudeface wrote:
Credit to Herschet on B&C for the find:

Looks like World Eaters may be on the 40K Roadmap.

 Platuan4th wrote:

 cuda1179 wrote:

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:

 tauist wrote:
So anyone with the dex can tell me what weapon options remain for the DC with jump pack?

If too many weapon options were cut, GW have completely lost me as a BA player for good

Plasma Pistol for Every 5 Models, Eviscerator for Every 5, 1 model can have a Fist/Power Weapon, for Every 5 1 Model can have a combination of Hand Flamer/Heavy Bolt Pistol/Inferno pistol paired with Astartes Chainsword/Power Fist/Power Weapon. So a unit of 10 can have 2 Plasma Pistols, 2 Eviscerators, 3 Fists, 2 Inferno Pistols as an example.

This feels sufficient, especially when combined with the Lost to Rage stratagem.

So, like a complete idiot about two months ago I converted up some Death Company in Jump Packs for my Blood Angels. All models in the army are Stormcast legs and torsos with Venerable Dreadnought heads, Mk3 backpacks, and Primaris arms and weapons. Anyway, I had 5 DC with powerfist/plasma Pistol. Looks like the easiest way to fix this is to make ANOTHER squad with attached leader. That will save three of the PP/PF guys. Two will have to have their plasma pistols cut off and replaced with Inferno pistols. Then add in 6 guys with bolt pistol and chainsword/evicerator.

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Okay, found a pic of the unit entry one reddit. Looks like one guy in the squad can have any combination of (Heavy bolt pistol, plasma pistol, Inferno pistol, flame pistol) and (chainsword, powersword, power fist). Original post forgot about the plasma here.

Plasma is literally the first thing I listed. You'll also notice on the unit entry that it's separate from the guns that can be combined with a special melee.

You missed the plasma in the other group. To quote you: "Every 5 1 Model can have a combination of Hand Flamer/Heavy Bolt Pistol/Inferno pistol paired with Astartes Chainsword/Power Fist/Power Weapon" There is also the option of a plasma pistol here, which you omitted.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

Andykp wrote:
Anyone got any ideas on why the vulture gunship has disappeared from legends. Guard legends were up after the other day?

If we are lucky, maybe plastic kit?

That would be a nice surprise.

 alextroy wrote:

Dudeface wrote:
Credit to Herschet on B&C for the find:

Looks like World Eaters may be on the 40K Roadmap.

As much as I'd love to see a WE release wave, that could just as easily be an AOS BoK update or a Khorne blood bowl team.

However I did hear whispers that the WE codex has been completed & sent to print, so shouldn't be any more than 5-6 months away. Fingers crossed.

 xttz wrote:

 alextroy wrote:

Dudeface wrote:
Credit to Herschet on B&C for the find:

Looks like World Eaters may be on the 40K Roadmap.

As much as I'd love to see a WE release wave, that could just as easily be an AOS BoK update or a Khorne blood bowl team.

However I did hear whispers that the WE codex has been completed & sent to print, so shouldn't be any more than 5-6 months away. Fingers crossed.

Could also be the resin Angron Transfigured that's long rumoured.

BA are the last for this year, next year Krieg are getting a full refresh, Aspect Warriors for Aeldari and Imperial Knights after that

I missed the part about the knights being after the eldar - did that actually get mentioned in the ’interview’?

I note the art for the Imperial Guard codex shows the Death Korps of Kreig

++Happy gas mask noises++

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
I note the art for the Imperial Guard codex shows the Death Korps of Kreig

++Happy gas mask noises++

The article spells out they're getting a range expansion.

As someone with 2 chaos armies and a drukhari force waiting for some rules, this edition sucks so far lol.

From the Dark Eldar perspective, I'd say that the deeper into the edition they go without a new book, the better the odds feel that you might get a chonky release this time.

Might be the copium talking, but until the book drops, there's a chance...

 Dysartes wrote:
From the Dark Eldar perspective, I'd say that the deeper into the edition they go without a new book, the better the odds feel that you might get a chonky release this time.

Might be the copium talking, but until the book drops, there's a chance...

The remaining chunky wave candidates by rumour or logical deduction now are:
- guard
- eldar
- space wolves
- votann
- emperors children

One more could sneak in there but pretty much all the remaining books need more than 1 model imo.

Dudeface wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:
From the Dark Eldar perspective, I'd say that the deeper into the edition they go without a new book, the better the odds feel that you might get a chonky release this time.

Might be the copium talking, but until the book drops, there's a chance...

The remaining chunky wave candidates by rumour or logical deduction now are:
- guard
- eldar
- space wolves
- votann
- emperors children

One more could sneak in there but pretty much all the remaining books need more than 1 model imo.

World Eaters as well could easily be filled out with a range of either current CSM kits and or some new ones....

Hey though for real what's going on with no new codexes for at least four more months?

 cole1114 wrote:
Hey though for real what's going on with no new codexes for at least four more months?

Likely production catching up on stock issues following the edition launch for AoS and needing to get ahead for Christmas boxes given the gak they got for last year's shortages.

Dudeface wrote:

 cole1114 wrote:
Hey though for real what's going on with no new codexes for at least four more months?

Likely production catching up on stock issues following the edition launch for AoS and needing to get ahead for Christmas boxes given the gak they got for last year's shortages.

I really wonder if they're rethinking the army box/battleforce-with-every-codex approach, and this slowdown is the result. There's been a glut of those massive boxed sets in recent months (not just for 40k) and some of them are no longer reliably selling out like they used to.

Also, calming the release pace across all game systems could mean they will trial a return to 1 week preorders. That would be neat.

Krieg Rough Riders, or I riot.

And by riot, I mean start a letter writing campaign.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Krieg Rough Riders, or I riot.

And by riot, I mean start a letter writing campaign.

I'm not sure I'd expect them at this point. They'll need to do at least two Infantry kits plus and upgrade sprue and character I reckon and part of me thinks they went with the Attillian is so they don't have to do them each time.

 Dawnbringer wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Krieg Rough Riders, or I riot.

And by riot, I mean start a letter writing campaign.

I'm not sure I'd expect them at this point. They'll need to do at least two Infantry kits plus and upgrade sprue and character I reckon and part of me thinks they went with the Attillian is so they don't have to do them each time.

They'll be a rules-distinct unit likely similiar how the infantry squad is now. They're iconic to the range, there's no way they'll leave them out and it's perfectly ok for some releases to be larger waves like they used to be.

Well, we’ve already got Krieg infantry. So in just a handful of kits, they can do Heavy Weapons, Command and Rough Riders.

Dudeface wrote:

 Dawnbringer wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Krieg Rough Riders, or I riot.

And by riot, I mean start a letter writing campaign.

I'm not sure I'd expect them at this point. They'll need to do at least two Infantry kits plus and upgrade sprue and character I reckon and part of me thinks they went with the Attillian is so they don't have to do them each time.

They'll be a rules-distinct unit likely similiar how the infantry squad is now. They're iconic to the range, there's no way they'll leave them out and it's perfectly ok for some releases to be larger waves like they used to be.

You mean like Death Company? I'm happy to be proven wrong, I'm just not expecting it.

 Destrado wrote:
Out of curiosity, as it’s been nagging me for a long time, and hopefully the codex settles it…

… what’s the bloody colour of Infernus Marines’ helmets??

I've never seen Infernus Marines as anything except Fire Support. Even the new sergeant they showed off for the Hachette magazines has the Fire Support badge. Are they listed as Close Support somewhere?


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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Well, we’ve already got Krieg infantry. So in just a handful of kits, they can do Heavy Weapons, Command and Rough Riders.

I agree, this seems to make the most sense. They can even incorporate things like tank crew models or artillery gunners into one of the kits if they wanted to keep the number of boxes to a minimum.

 Dawnbringer wrote:

Dudeface wrote:

 Dawnbringer wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Krieg Rough Riders, or I riot.

And by riot, I mean start a letter writing campaign.

I'm not sure I'd expect them at this point. They'll need to do at least two Infantry kits plus and upgrade sprue and character I reckon and part of me thinks they went with the Attillian is so they don't have to do them each time.

They'll be a rules-distinct unit likely similiar how the infantry squad is now. They're iconic to the range, there's no way they'll leave them out and it's perfectly ok for some releases to be larger waves like they used to be.

You mean like Death Company? I'm happy to be proven wrong, I'm just not expecting it.

Death company still exist as a unit and the BA upgrade sprue is basically the death company sprue at this point.

Has anything ever come out about WHY they made an imperial agents codex, or how it's doing saleswise?

We generally only super rarely hear when things sell and that's typically only if they out-sell marines to an insane amount. We can guess bad-sellers when things get randomly dropped; but that's also a minefield of mistakes, problems, back end issues and sometimes just too many things and something has to give and so forth.

 cole1114 wrote:
Has anything ever come out about WHY they made an imperial agents codex, or how it's doing saleswise?

Because they can charge you for the allies content this way I'd imagine, being the main reason. Secondly probably a little of "you say I can build an army but there's no rules" complaints.

Well, I wouldn't expect a straight Death Korps reskin of the Cadian range, nor all the Forge World stuff converted into plastic. That's not how GW rolls these days. They want to give each regiment their own identity, plus they want you sell new stuff you don't already have.

The Death Korps transfer sheet gives a hint, there is a section for "trench and minefield markings". So I guess there will be a new trench system?

For actual kits I'd expect a Command Squad (but with different specialists than Cadians have), some Veteran-type unit like Engineers (minelayers?), perhaps an upgrade sprue like Cadians got that also has tank upgrades.

Wouldn't bet on Rough Riders as we got Attilans now. Kroot also didn't get plastic versions of their Forge World riders but something different. Instead I could see new artillery, flamer squads and a unique vehicle. And of course, lots of characters.

 stahly wrote:
Well, I wouldn't expect a straight Death Korps reskin of the Cadian range, nor all the Forge World stuff converted into plastic. That's not how GW rolls these days. They want to give each regiment their own identity, plus they want you sell new stuff you don't already have.

The Death Korps transfer sheet gives a hint, there is a section for "trench and minefield markings". So I guess there will be a new trench system?

For actual kits I'd expect a Command Squad (but with different specialists than Cadians have), some Veteran-type unit like Engineers (minelayers?), perhaps an upgrade sprue like Cadians got that also has tank upgrades.

Wouldn't bet on Rough Riders as we got Attilans now. Kroot also didn't get plastic versions of their Forge World riders but something different. Instead I could see new artillery, flamer squads and a unique vehicle. And of course, lots of characters.

Agreed. It's import to remember this isn't Codex Krieg, its Codex Imperial Guard (still not calling them Astra Militarum). Rough Riders will be in the Codex, I just doubt they will make a Krieg specific set at this point. Especially since the Arty / heavy weapons would need Kreig kits. I'd also I'd expect some sort of 'Elite' unit. I reckon between the Killteam kit and some parts on an upgrade sprue (needed for a tank commander, besides its just what GW do these days) a command sprue and basic inf can be covered off. (What else would be needed for a command squad, other than a banner arm?). Then a Castellan type character and it would be pretty much set, and also a substantial (as we get these days) release. Guard just got a big update last edition, and I suspect they will stick with more Regiments with a few options then fewer with everything. I was actually surprised they did they Arty for the Cadians, as it adds another non unique unit they need to do for other regts. (Though it looks like the crew are only on one of the sprues, only one sprue needed for a new Regt).

Krieg release is fantastic news in my book. The KT is nice in isolation but looks out of place compared to most of the current IG range, so I never committed to it. This may very well change things, depending on the quality and nature of that release.

 cole1114 wrote:
Has anything ever come out about WHY they made an imperial agents codex, or how it's doing saleswise?

well, you need a place to collect all these rules for disparate units which don't fit into other factions. and they've done the concept before, with the army list in 2nd, and the previous book in 7th. it's certainly a lot better than the distinctly different books for each little subsegment like agents, inquisitors, rogue traders, etc


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oh and also, they've been called Astra Militarum for over 15 years at this point. i have no idea what the issue with that name is for some people