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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/10/07 20:40:39
Subject: Warhammer 40k news and rumours. Christmas Battleforces and Emperors Children teaser pg104
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Honestly I'd welcome them doing a NEW Space Hulk.
That would make a great Quest foundation and they could expand it; not just terminators and genestealers but throw in a few other factions or even be bold and do Rogue Traders and so forth. Lots of factions will happily snoop around a fallen spacehulk and many a stealer (and other ancient things) likely lurk in those drifting hulks
Indeed you could easily do 3 seasons - stealers on the outer regions; Chaos on the inner; then in the centre something super ancient that survived it all just waiting and lurking
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/10/07 23:34:36
Subject: Warhammer 40k news and rumours. Christmas Battleforces and Emperors Children teaser pg104
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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Maybe they'll bring back Dreadfleet, except make it Man O War
Also, I have to ask - are those tankbustas in the kill team box? Because every reference to them refers to them as wrecka crews (or krews) or breaka boyz, which sounds like a different unit. The only place they are referred to as tankbustas is in the inset photo for two specific minis, so either the kit makes two different units, one of which is tankbustas and the other something else, or it's a whole new unit instead (unlikely imo).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/10/07 23:50:01
Subject: Warhammer 40k news and rumours. Christmas Battleforces and Emperors Children teaser pg104
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Fixture of Dakka
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chaos0xomega wrote:Maybe they'll bring back Dreadfleet, except make it Man O War
Also, I have to ask - are those tankbustas in the kill team box? Because every reference to them refers to them as wrecka crews (or krews) or breaka boyz, which sounds like a different unit. The only place they are referred to as tankbustas is in the inset photo for two specific minis, so either the kit makes two different units, one of which is tankbustas and the other something else, or it's a whole new unit instead (unlikely imo).
The article refers to breaka boyz fighters as the base option, with alternate weapons for specialists. Pictures show breaka boyz with a hammer plus specialists with a rokkit hammer or krusha fists, and Tankbustas as a rokkiteer or gunner. From the sounds of it, a Wrecka Krew is made up of melee breaka boyz and ranged tankbustas. Hopefully the 2 or 3 build options they mention include enough to make a full unit of tank bustas.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/10/07 23:58:28
Subject: Warhammer 40k news and rumours. Christmas Battleforces and Emperors Children teaser pg104
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Honestly I'd love to see Warmaster or Man O War games done for AoS. The system is screaming out for that scale of game so you can have things like God Beasts on the table
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/10/08 01:51:04
Subject: Warhammer 40k news and rumours. Christmas Battleforces and Emperors Children teaser pg104
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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I agree, the AoS setting could allow for some pretty far out man o war goodness, but also may not be as narratively compelling given the less interconnected nature of the setting.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/10/08 06:16:58
Subject: Warhammer 40k news and rumours. Christmas Battleforces and Emperors Children teaser pg104
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Fixture of Dakka
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chaos0xomega wrote:I agree, the AoS setting could allow for some pretty far out man o war goodness, but also may not be as narratively compelling given the less interconnected nature of the setting.
Could do a one off game of sky ship battles between steampunk dwarves, sky goblins, and flying monsters
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/10/08 06:44:32
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k news and rumours. Christmas Battleforces and Emperors Children teaser pg104
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Fixture of Dakka
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A new Man-o-War would be...well... epic.
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Casual gaming, mostly solo-coop these days.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/10/08 08:55:56
Subject: Warhammer 40k news and rumours. Christmas Battleforces and Emperors Children teaser pg104
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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As long as we are wishlisting, a quest game set in commorragh as a group of "gladiators" taken from different factions try to escape the cruel freakshow court of the Archon could be fun, and could double as a Drukkhari refresh.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/10/08 13:58:17
Subject: Warhammer 40k news and rumours. Christmas Battleforces and Emperors Children teaser pg104
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Fixture of Dakka
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MajorWesJanson wrote:chaos0xomega wrote:Maybe they'll bring back Dreadfleet, except make it Man O War
Also, I have to ask - are those tankbustas in the kill team box? Because every reference to them refers to them as wrecka crews (or krews) or breaka boyz, which sounds like a different unit. The only place they are referred to as tankbustas is in the inset photo for two specific minis, so either the kit makes two different units, one of which is tankbustas and the other something else, or it's a whole new unit instead (unlikely imo).
The article refers to breaka boyz fighters as the base option, with alternate weapons for specialists. Pictures show breaka boyz with a hammer plus specialists with a rokkit hammer or krusha fists, and Tankbustas as a rokkiteer or gunner. From the sounds of it, a Wrecka Krew is made up of melee breaka boyz and ranged tankbustas. Hopefully the 2 or 3 build options they mention include enough to make a full unit of tank bustas.
The big question seems to be whether or not the kit makes two different units or whether its a single datasheet with loadout options. I'm expecting a 3/6 unit out of it, but the Boss Nob being on a different base raises some questions.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/10/08 16:43:20
Subject: Warhammer 40k news and rumours. Christmas Battleforces and Emperors Children teaser pg104
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Fayric wrote:As long as we are wishlisting, a quest game set in commorragh as a group of "gladiators" taken from different factions try to escape the cruel freakshow court of the Archon could be fun, and could double as a Drukkhari refresh.
A shame that Gorkamorka crashed and burned, as a Commorragh -set Skirmish Series game would've been perfect. Those people who refused to play anything but Space Marines could always play armour-less Astartes struggling to survive as fodder for the pits.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/10/08 16:55:19
Subject: Warhammer 40k news and rumours. Christmas Battleforces and Emperors Children teaser pg104
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Emboldened Warlock
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Apologies to those who were waiting for my Blood Angels review. It's now up, I got a look at the Sanguinary Guard, Sanguinor, Sanguinary Priest, and Captain inc. the sorely missing high-res sprue images: https://taleofpainters.com/2024/10/review-blood-angels-sanguinary-guard-captain-sanguinary-priest-sanguinor/
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/10/08 16:57:16
Subject: Warhammer 40k news and rumours. Christmas Battleforces and Emperors Children teaser pg104
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Shakalooloo wrote: Fayric wrote:As long as we are wishlisting, a quest game set in commorragh as a group of "gladiators" taken from different factions try to escape the cruel freakshow court of the Archon could be fun, and could double as a Drukkhari refresh.
A shame that Gorkamorka crashed and burned, as a Commorragh -set Skirmish Series game would've been perfect. Those people who refused to play anything but Space Marines could always play armour-less Astartes struggling to survive as fodder for the pits.
Both of those are awesome ideas, and both would also make excellent additions to the Quest series.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/10/08 17:37:44
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k news and rumours. Christmas Battleforces and Emperors Children teaser pg104
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Fixture of Dakka
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Commoragh definitely needs its own game! At the very least they should consider it as part of Kill Team or re-release Gangs of Commorragh.
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Casual gaming, mostly solo-coop these days.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/10/08 17:50:55
Subject: Warhammer 40k news and rumours. Christmas Battleforces and Emperors Children teaser pg104
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Fixture of Dakka
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Shakalooloo wrote: Fayric wrote:As long as we are wishlisting, a quest game set in commorragh as a group of "gladiators" taken from different factions try to escape the cruel freakshow court of the Archon could be fun, and could double as a Drukkhari refresh.
A shame that Gorkamorka crashed and burned, as a Commorragh -set Skirmish Series game would've been perfect. Those people who refused to play anything but Space Marines could always play armour-less Astartes struggling to survive as fodder for the pits.
It was always weird to me that Speed Freaks didn't have more tie in with the other buggy kits, or at least didn't get marketed that way.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/10/08 17:52:10
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k news and rumours. Christmas Battleforces and Emperors Children teaser pg104
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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The last Drukhari codex even has two d66 tables of territories in the Crusade section, so that's part of the Necromunda-ising already sorted.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/10/09 00:10:55
Subject: Warhammer 40k news and rumours. Christmas Battleforces and Emperors Children teaser pg104
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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I wonder if the kill team means tankbustas being replaced by a new unit that has tankbustas in it, or if they'll get a new release and the kill team will stay in kill team.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/10/09 01:32:35
Subject: Warhammer 40k news and rumours. Christmas Battleforces and Emperors Children teaser pg104
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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cole1114 wrote:I wonder if the kill team means tankbustas being replaced by a new unit that has tankbustas in it, or if they'll get a new release and the kill team will stay in kill team.
What are the odds it builds 2 units, one shooty, one melee, but the KT uses a few from both sides? But 40k rules would be all of one or the other?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/10/09 01:44:40
Subject: Warhammer 40k news and rumours. Christmas Battleforces and Emperors Children teaser pg104
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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That's kinda what im counting on/betting on/expecting.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/10/09 03:31:02
Subject: Warhammer 40k news and rumours. Christmas Battleforces and Emperors Children teaser pg104
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Nevelon wrote:
What are the odds it builds 2 units, one shooty, one melee, but the KT uses a few from both sides? But 40k rules would be all of one or the other?
We know that every normal Ork can be build as either Breaka Boy or Tankbusta, this image shows the alternate builds nicely:
So the only one presumably without a dual build is the Nob and that one has a rockkit launcher in one hand and a hammer in the other so can be used for both. So at least from a model point two units would be completely possible.
Wrecka Krew also isn't really a good name for a 40k unit so thats likely just the Kill Team name but Tankbustas and Breaka Boys can easily be used as 40k unit names so I also think two units is very much possible
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Don't think somebody else posted this already:
The 40k Battleforces article was updated with a note about the Knights box that clarifies the Questoris Knight can only be build as an Errant or Paladin. That means the box won't include the extra weapon sprue that has the thunderstrike gauntlet, avenger gatling cannon and the two carapace weapons. It also doesn't include the upgrade sprue for the Canis Rex/Knight Preceptor build.
The missing weapons for the Gallant/Warden/Crusader/Preceptor aren't great but what is really bad is that with 40k current point system you are at an absolute disadvante to not have carapace weapons on your Knights since they are free.
So unless you already have other Questoris Knights you can split the second carapace weapon from, this box only gives you an objective bad Knight build.
This makes the previously best value battleforce into the arguably worst value one depending on your existing collection and how much value you give the missing sprues.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/10/09 13:49:48
Subject: Warhammer 40k news and rumours. Christmas Battleforces and Emperors Children teaser pg104
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Fixture of Dakka
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Two separate units makes the most sense to me, but I could see it going either way.
I was worried about the knight since I didn't see the carapace weapon. That's such a cheap lousy way to save a buck.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/10/09 14:02:11
Subject: Warhammer 40k news and rumours. Christmas Battleforces and Emperors Children teaser pg104
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Yeah, I clocked that text when I was talking to a friend about those boxes on Monday - it definitely wasn't there in the original article, but then why use a Knight without a carapace weapon on the box if it isn't going to be included?
Still, a bit of an odd choice regardless.
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2021-4 Plog - Here we go again... - my fifth attempt at a Dakka PLOG
My Pile of Potential - updates ongoing...
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote:This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote:You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling. - No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/10/09 21:17:35
Subject: Warhammer 40k news and rumours. Christmas Battleforces and Emperors Children teaser pg104
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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Do they not sell the upgrade sprue separately, at least?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/10/09 21:38:10
Subject: Warhammer 40k news and rumours. Christmas Battleforces and Emperors Children teaser pg104
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I didn't see it when I was having a glance before, but let me check...
*checks*
And our survey says... nope, though I'll caveat that by saying that the only Knight kit for the Paladin, etc, includes that sprue now anyway.
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2021-4 Plog - Here we go again... - my fifth attempt at a Dakka PLOG
My Pile of Potential - updates ongoing...
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote:This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote:You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling. - No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/10/11 14:18:27
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k news and rumours. Christmas Battleforces and Emperors Children teaser pg104
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Next Valrak rumours:
This time he also talked about expected release dates but as always that can change at any time.
Krieg is in January/February, probably preorder in January with release in February.
After that is Eldar and he thinks the Corsairs stuff is coming with the main wave but that is just his speculation. Knights after that.
After that in spring is Emperors Children time which makes sense since they already teased them. If it was summer or autumn I wouldn't have expected a teaser yet.
Summer's big release will be Space Wolves (and the big HH thing with Salamanders vs Iron Warriors that is likely a new edition/a 2.5 edition) with new Logan Grimnar without sled. Instead he will be surrounded by wolves.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/10/11 15:34:13
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k news and rumours. Christmas Battleforces and Emperors Children teaser pg104
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Gore-Drenched Khorne Chaos Lord
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Matrindur wrote:Next Valrak rumours:
This time he also talked about expected release dates but as always that can change at any time.
Krieg is in January/February, probably preorder in January with release in February.
After that is Eldar and he thinks the Corsairs stuff is coming with the main wave but that is just his speculation. Knights after that.
After that in spring is Emperors Children time which makes sense since they already teased them. If it was summer or autumn I wouldn't have expected a teaser yet.
Summer's big release will be Space Wolves (and the big HH thing with Salamanders vs Iron Warriors that is likely a new edition/a 2.5 edition) with new Logan Grimnar without sled. Instead he will be surrounded by wolves.
So, for the sins of daring to exist, daemons is singularly causing world eaters, death guard and thousand sons to all receive books in the "less than 12 months of use" window, along with chaos knights.
There's still far too many factions to comfortably fit in the last year of the edition imo. Assuming June 2026 11th drops:
Between space wolves in, I would assume, June/July - there is remaining:
- tsons
- WE
- DG
- Chaos knights (could sneak in with loyalist as a paired release?)
- grey knights (they stated they're 2025 already)
- leagues of votann
- drukhari
- daemons, if the rumours are wrong
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/10/11 15:41:12
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k news and rumours. Christmas Battleforces and Emperors Children teaser pg104
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Deathwing Terminator with Assault Cannon
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Dudeface wrote: Matrindur wrote:Next Valrak rumours:
This time he also talked about expected release dates but as always that can change at any time.
Krieg is in January/February, probably preorder in January with release in February.
After that is Eldar and he thinks the Corsairs stuff is coming with the main wave but that is just his speculation. Knights after that.
After that in spring is Emperors Children time which makes sense since they already teased them. If it was summer or autumn I wouldn't have expected a teaser yet.
Summer's big release will be Space Wolves (and the big HH thing with Salamanders vs Iron Warriors that is likely a new edition/a 2.5 edition) with new Logan Grimnar without sled. Instead he will be surrounded by wolves.
So, for the sins of daring to exist, daemons is singularly causing world eaters, death guard and thousand sons to all receive books in the "less than 12 months of use" window, along with chaos knights.
There's still far too many factions to comfortably fit in the last year of the edition imo. Assuming June 2026 11th drops:
Between space wolves in, I would assume, June/July - there is remaining:
- tsons
- WE
- DG
- Chaos knights (could sneak in with loyalist as a paired release?)
- grey knights (they stated they're 2025 already)
- leagues of votann
- drukhari
- daemons, if the rumours are wrong
Black Templars.
I'd be surprised if Chaos Knights snuck in with loyalist ones since they weren't mentioned with the loyalist ones on the roadmap.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/10/11 16:02:47
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k news and rumours. Christmas Battleforces and Emperors Children teaser pg104
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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Matrindur wrote:Next Valrak rumours:
This time he also talked about expected release dates but as always that can change at any time.
Krieg is in January/February, probably preorder in January with release in February.
After that is Eldar and he thinks the Corsairs stuff is coming with the main wave but that is just his speculation. Knights after that.
After that in spring is Emperors Children time which makes sense since they already teased them. If it was summer or autumn I wouldn't have expected a teaser yet.
Summer's big release will be Space Wolves (and the big HH thing with Salamanders vs Iron Warriors that is likely a new edition/a 2.5 edition) with new Logan Grimnar without sled. Instead he will be surrounded by wolves.
Thats the nova open roadmap + old vague rumors specified as a summer release, more or less. So pretty believable.
I we/I just get a Grimnar remake after DAs and BAs haul, I will be really dissapointed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/10/11 16:08:05
Subject: Warhammer 40k news and rumours. Christmas Battleforces and Emperors Children teaser pg104
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Fixture of Dakka
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Given the firstborn are probably gone, there's got to be at the very least a new version of Thunderwolves?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/10/11 16:16:10
Subject: Warhammer 40k news and rumours. Christmas Battleforces and Emperors Children teaser pg104
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Gore-Drenched Khorne Chaos Lord
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LunarSol wrote:Given the firstborn are probably gone, there's got to be at the very least a new version of Thunderwolves?
Long fangs, blood claws/grey hunters, wulfen, wolf guard and thunderwolves are all still around as firstborn iirc.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/10/11 16:40:23
Subject: Warhammer 40k news and rumours. Christmas Battleforces and Emperors Children teaser pg104
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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LunarSol wrote:Given the firstborn are probably gone, there's got to be at the very least a new version of Thunderwolves?
Huge TWC and Redemptor Bjorn probably unavoidable. Would be awesome if we got some simple Grey Hunter style intercessors that act more like veterans and have aditional gear, and a curse spitting axe vielding elite executioners unit. You know, cunning yet brutal.
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