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 Matrindur wrote:
Well I've been F5 for Battleforces for 7 years now but that Dark Angels Battleforce might be the first one I didn't manage to get.
That one was gone insanely fast

Oh yeah, that's my fault. That's the one I'm interested in, so of course it's the one that proves most popular and sells out immediately.

Glad I'm not chasing after these things. I'll still buy one if I see it in stock at a discount, but if I don't I won't be sad to miss it.

Happy to have gotten a pre-order in for the Necron one - interestingly, when I looked on Element it didn't look like there was any discount on the box. Has anyone seen them up at a discounted price anywhere?

 Dysartes wrote:
Happy to have gotten a pre-order in for the Necron one - interestingly, when I looked on Element it didn't look like there was any discount on the box. Has anyone seen them up at a discounted price anywhere?

This still shows as available.

https://alchemistsworkshops.com/product/battleforce-necrons-hypercrypt-legion/

I've ordered from this store before, no issues at all.

Firestorm and Wayland have their standard discounts on them

Necron set should tempt me but I've not been building my necrons for ages so I might pass unless any survive after christmas (Dragon being in the set might just luck me out that it doesn't sell out super-fast compared to some others).

SoB one would be interesting but I don't want to start a fresh army right now.

Maybe it's just me but it's mostly just very uninspiring sets... and 20-25 minis for £150 is not an impulse buy. Alas leviathan was that price a couple years ago and had 70+minis and book. I know it's not a starter and would not expect no price increase but I would accept something like 50 minis for that price not 25.

GW prices never been good but the pace they are going is just not worth it at all.

I feel like the AoS sets look more exciting than the 40K ones. I do agree the 40K feel like there's 1 box of troops missing in them compared to their price; but then again that. "This is just a bit too expensive for what it is" feeling is honestly creeping in over a LOT of life and purchases these days.

It's that post-pandemic "everything just got more expensive ahead of inflation so it all feels uncomfortably expensive" feeling.

 Dysartes wrote:
Happy to have gotten a pre-order in for the Necron one - interestingly, when I looked on Element it didn't look like there was any discount on the box. Has anyone seen them up at a discounted price anywhere?

Element have been gradually phasing out discounts for GW FOMO boxes. Sometimes they still have one, but often they don't if it's a hot commodity, so if you're F5'ing on a Saturday it's usually better to look elsewhere now.

Battleground Gaming still has some, but they're a smaller discount than Alchemist and Wayland that were linked above.

At least we found out that servo skull went to a Warhammer plus Inquisitior

Valrak video about Boxsets:

Krieg are getting an army set (no surprise here)
It will be Deathrider themed, 10 riders with weapon options (grenade spears, sword&pistols, lasguns?), Deathrider HQ that is likely a captain
Also a new artillery piece and a 5-men special weapon team that has a mini tank drone? in the box
(The mini tank drone might be a Cyclops?)
I would expect the army set very soon since they normally arrive about a month earlier than the main release and the main release is rumored to be end of January/start of February

Emperors children are also getting an army set with a multipart EC chaos lord, 20 Marines (sounds like these are the EC Legionaries from the previous rumour) and 2 squads of Noise Marines so likely 12 if they turn out to be squads of 6.

Of course both also come with their limited edition Codex

Eldar new Combat Patrol will have a Spiritseer, Warpspiders, Guardians and Wraithblades

This would be a 25% discount if each of them is only included once which is on par with the CSM and Mechanicum as worst discounts
They might also double up on one of the units which would make it about a 42% discount which, while unlikely, is still possible as the Blood Angels has a 45% discount while also having new units inside
So both are equally likely and I guess it depends on how GW feels that day

New Valrak rumours

Limited launch box for Krieg, consisting of

* 1 x Death Rider HQ (he's not sure if this is a commissar, a captain or a dual build)
* 2 x 5 Death Riders
* New artillery piece
* Special weapons squad including some kind of weapon drone.
* Limited ed Codex

Limited launch box for Emperor's Children, consisting of

* 1 x EC Chaos Lord
* 2 x 10 Emperor's Children Legionnaires (lots of plumes etc, apparently cool).
* 2 x 6 Noise Marines
* Limited ed Codex

New Eldar Combat Patrol is -

* Spiritseer
* Warp Spiders
* Guardians
* Wraithblades/guard

I like the sound of the Eldar CP.

Would not surprise me at all if the Noise Marines are actually a 3-6 unit coming in sets of three instead of being two sets of six, since GW seems to be rather fond of a three models per box format for "elite" type units these days. That's if they go the route of making the old Noise Marine more a standard EC legionnaire option along with introducing a new more elite version to be the actual Noise Marine.

Excited to see the EC box for sure.

 ikeulhu wrote:
Would not surprise me at all if the Noise Marines are actually a 3-6 unit coming in sets of three instead of being two sets of six, since GW seems to be rather fond of a three models per box format for "elite" type units these days. That's if they go the route of making the old Noise Marine more a standard EC legionnaire option along with introducing a new more elite version to be the actual Noise Marine.

Thats true if Noise Marines are the Elite unit. But according to rumours EC also get a 3-men elite swordsmen unit so it would make sense if Noise Marines are instead the 6-men Veteran unit and the EC Legionaries are the 10-men basic squad.

Would be pretty much in line with the other legions if you make the point that EC being about perfection also means all their units are one slot above their normal position

So where the other legions have chaff units in the form of Poxwalkers/Tzaangors/Jakhals the EC instead already have Marines in the form of the EC Legionaries
And where the other legions specific Marines in the form of Plague/Rubric/Berzerker Marines are normally the basic troops, for EC the Noise Marines are already Veterans

 ImAGeek wrote:
Excited to see the EC box for sure.

Do you think the Noise Marines are going to change their "look" a lot?

Valrak is more right than wrong, but the Eldar box sounds too good to be true. It would be ideal though, as I've been fancying an Iyanden force since 3rd edition.

 The Phazer wrote:
New Valrak rumours

Limited launch box for Krieg, consisting of

* 1 x Death Rider HQ (he's not sure if this is a commissar, a captain or a dual build)
* 2 x 5 Death Riders
* New artillery piece
* Special weapons squad including some kind of weapon drone.
* Limited ed Codex

Limited launch box for Emperor's Children, consisting of

* 1 x EC Chaos Lord
* 2 x 10 Emperor's Children Legionnaires (lots of plumes etc, apparently cool).
* 2 x 6 Noise Marines
* Limited ed Codex

Would these be the first launch boxes with more than one copy of the same new kit ?

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 The Phazer wrote:
New Valrak rumours

Limited launch box for Krieg, consisting of

* 1 x Death Rider HQ (he's not sure if this is a commissar, a captain or a dual build)
* 2 x 5 Death Riders
* New artillery piece
* Special weapons squad including some kind of weapon drone.
* Limited ed Codex

Limited launch box for Emperor's Children, consisting of

* 1 x EC Chaos Lord
* 2 x 10 Emperor's Children Legionnaires (lots of plumes etc, apparently cool).
* 2 x 6 Noise Marines
* Limited ed Codex

Would these be the first launch boxes with more than one copy of the same new kit ?

No. The 2022 "Cadia Stands" launch box had two squads of Cadian Infantry. The Leagues of Votann army set had two sets of Hearthkyn Warriors. The Beast Snagga Orks Army Set had two sets of Beast Snagga Boyz.

Two copies of the basic infantry unit seems to be included as often as not.

While I’ll pass on the EC stuff, the Eldar CP and the Launch box for DKoK may require multiple boxes each. ESPECIALLY if the warp spiders turn out to be real and not one man’s fever dream!

 godswildcard wrote:
While I’ll pass on the EC stuff, the Eldar CP and the Launch box for DKoK may require multiple boxes each. ESPECIALLY if the warp spiders turn out to be real and not one man’s fever dream!

I'm hoping the warp spiders are real because I need 1 for a crazy mechanicus imperial knight conversion.

So, tin foil hat moment. The soul grinder is being squatted in sigmar land. Why is this relevant you might ask? Because it's an unbound defiler. If you're going to smush daemons into the legion books, it makes sense not to have conflicting/overlapping units.

If it's being put out to pasture overall, I wonder if it'll force a statement about daemons sooner rather than later

EC box sounds incredible. Going to be a tough wait but at least we're getting there

 Marshal Loss wrote:
EC box sounds incredible. Going to be a tough wait but at least we're getting there

Yeah gonna be a long few months.

It could just also be part of the elinibation of crossover units?

Warahrine and manticore also got cut, though the warshrine isnt in TOW... the MVB is also still crossing over so maybe not.

Both those bixes spund great though, will take 3 each w a side of angry glares from my gf.

Warpsiders sounds nice, its the only aspect warriors I never got around to owning.
To lock them up in a box with models I dont need is not nice, but I can wait.

From what i heard of Valraks non-marine know-wots I cant help thinking it might actually be fire dragons in the box because we know Fuegan is just around the corner.

Hold on, why is it listed as wraith blades/guard. Is it one box of each guard and blade?

 Fayric wrote:
Warpsiders sounds nice, its the only aspect warriors I never got around to owning.
To lock them up in a box with models I dont need is not nice, but I can wait.

From what i heard of Valraks non-marine know-wots I cant help thinking it might actually be fire dragons in the box because we know Fuegan is just around the corner.

Hold on, why is it listed as wraith blades/guard. Is it one box of each guard and blade?

wraithblades/guard are the same box, so it's likely to just cover that.

Dudeface wrote:

 Fayric wrote:
Warpsiders sounds nice, its the only aspect warriors I never got around to owning.
To lock them up in a box with models I dont need is not nice, but I can wait.

From what i heard of Valraks non-marine know-wots I cant help thinking it might actually be fire dragons in the box because we know Fuegan is just around the corner.

Hold on, why is it listed as wraith blades/guard. Is it one box of each guard and blade?

wraithblades/guard are the same box, so it's likely to just cover that.

Thats crazy, I got at least 15 of them and was sure they came in either shooty or choppy

Dudeface wrote:
So, tin foil hat moment. The soul grinder is being squatted in sigmar land. Why is this relevant you might ask? Because it's an unbound defiler. If you're going to smush daemons into the legion books, it makes sense not to have conflicting/overlapping units.

If it's being put out to pasture overall, I wonder if it'll force a statement about daemons sooner rather than later

The Soul Grinder never really fit into AoS or TOW. It's very high tech looking on the mechanical bits.
A very confident poster on a different forum keeps hinting that we'll know one way or another whats happening with the Daemon in next months balance update.

OMG, let the Commisar on horse be real! I've had a conversion that hasn't been legal since the first half of 3rd edition that still looks good.

No real basis but... I'm not convinced they'd try to launch EC with... you can have 2 basic squads, and 2 more... kinda basic squads.

I mean GW makes mistakes etc. It might be fine in terms of models and money - but its not exactly screaming FOMO.

I'd have thought they'd want to push some other stuff just to splash it all over Warhammer Community etc.