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 Snord wrote:
Those new Death Korps models are really nice. There are a lot of the characterful details, like the broom-handled laspistol on the Engineer sergeant (looks as though the Engineers are just an upgrade sprue, however). The command squad looks especially good, and suitably sinister.

There's only five guys in the engineer squad (yikes at whatever that box price point ends up being...) so it can't be an upgrade to the ten-man sprues of the Kill Team squad.

Sgt. Cortez wrote:
Might be the paintjob bit I find the not-hooves of the horses really nasty. Might get used to them when they're not as pronounced. I understand they didn't want to take boring horses and bionics would have put them even closer to Squighogs, but I'm not sure yet if I like that look.
Other than that good looking stuff all around. Makes me wonder how good they mix with the upcoming WGA Damned stuff. Scratch off some eagles and they're nice looking renegades.

The forgeworld deathkorps horses have the same feet. They aren’t “horses” really but genetically altered beasts of burden I think.

They used to be horses. Then Krieg nuked itself into mud, rubble, and radioactive dust. Between the radiation and the exceptionally rough terrain on the surface, the horses re-evolving the missing bits of their feet was semi-inevitable.

Andykp wrote:
The forgeworld deathkorps horses have the same feet. They aren’t “horses” really but genetically altered beasts of burden I think.

not the same
Krieg never had regular horse models, but the feet weren't like that either

think the main problem is that they look more like some of the chaos feet we have seen (given that GW uses a digital database and the old FW models aren't digital) and have a paint job that makes the fet standing out to make sure everyone notice them not being actual horses

give it a regular paint job and it will look better

 CMLR wrote:
Horses with claws. Evolutive eeck. If they were not labeled Empire I'd say they are cool traitor guardsmen.

Krieg artillery looking damn fine, but wake me up when they give Catachan the spotlight.

Loved everything about Eldar except no new Dire Avengers. That's sorely missing.

The DAs still using the old guardian bodies makes it kind of hilarious to me xD

 kodos wrote:

Andykp wrote:
The forgeworld deathkorps horses have the same feet. They aren’t “horses” really but genetically altered beasts of burden I think.

not the same
Krieg never had regular horse models, but the feet weren't like that either

think the main problem is that they look more like some of the chaos feet we have seen (given that GW uses a digital database and the old FW models aren't digital) and have a paint job that makes the fet standing out to make sure everyone notice them not being actual horses

give it a regular paint job and it will look better

All they've done is add an extra toe. The old riders had two large claws and two smaller ones in either side. These guys have 3 toes in the middle.

Hot damn. If I wasn't firmly committed to Heresy and MESBG, I'd be sorely tempted by the Eldar. Warp Spiders have always been a favourite and what with a gorgeous kit and a fantastic looking Pheonix Lord (Artel W did the re-materialising first though!), I'd be hard pressed not to start an army centred around them.

lost_lilliputian wrote:
Also as I have no idea how to pronounce her name and will have trouble spelling it too, I shall call her Spider-Woman for the time being.

It reads as "Lick-his" to me.

Brilliant 40K announcements all round. The new aspects look dope, Krieg riders awesome, Krieg command squad look way better than I dared to even hope. Seriously tempted to start an Eldari army now, these models look very faithful to the originals and wouldn't look at all out of place in 2nd ed 40K.

As a cherry on top, the Arvus getting a plastic release will finally allow me to add a "HQ" to my RT Corsairs Kill Team. I was already considering adding it when the kit was resin, and now with the plastic release it just became a no-brainer. I mean, what better way for a bunch of Corsairs to roam the void than in an unmarked Imperial shuttle..

 Albertorius wrote:

 CMLR wrote:
Horses with claws. Evolutive eeck. If they were not labeled Empire I'd say they are cool traitor guardsmen.

Krieg artillery looking damn fine, but wake me up when they give Catachan the spotlight.

Loved everything about Eldar except no new Dire Avengers. That's sorely missing.

The DAs still using the old guardian bodies makes it kind of hilarious to me xD

Not for a while they’ve not. Long since become their own, self contained plastic kit.

But those ball and socket hip joints are awful.

 Hellebore wrote:
All they've done is add an extra toe. The old riders had two large claws and two smaller ones in either side. These guys have 3 toes in the middle.

as I wrote it is more about the paintjob making it extra visible (and pink claws usually associated with Slaanesh in the 40k colour coding) than the sculpting
but that someone found it necessary to paint those pink so everyone will notice it as something special, is the problem here

paint the full horse black and no one would have cared

The feet are only slightly different. They were always "weird" but I guess the old FW versions looked closer to goat hooves with dew claws, as opposed to the more bear feet of the new ones.

Its kinda funny how many people missed out on the feet of the Deathriders (both old and new) before someone else pointed them out.

 Shakalooloo wrote:

There's only five guys in the engineer squad (yikes at whatever that box price point ends up being...) so it can't be an upgrade to the ten-man sprues of the Kill Team squad.

There are 2 different sprues with components for 5 models on each. It looks as though these are the bodies from one of those sprues.

Yea I never noticed before because the foot still looked functionally unguligrade, the new ones have claws spread out too much, at least on most front legs.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

 CMLR wrote:
Horses with claws. Evolutive eeck. If they were not labeled Empire I'd say they are cool traitor guardsmen.

Krieg artillery looking damn fine, but wake me up when they give Catachan the spotlight.

Loved everything about Eldar except no new Dire Avengers. That's sorely missing.

The DAs still using the old guardian bodies makes it kind of hilarious to me xD

Not for a while they’ve not. Long since become their own, self contained plastic kit.

But those ball and socket hip joints are awful.

I just checked the GW store. Those bodies are still the same as the old guardians but with the DA stuff integrated, isn't that right? I mean, proportions and all they are the old guardians, right?

Might’ve been designed off them, but I really don’t know. Certainly the Guardians went together better than the Dire Avengers.

Was there any mention anywhere about when a new Karandras might also appear?

Or did he get done in (for now?) by Arhra?

 Alpharius wrote:
Was there any mention anywhere about when a new Karandras might also appear?

Or did he get done in (for now?) by Arhra?

IIRC there was zero mention of him one way or the other in the show.

Karandras seems prime "one new character model for a new codex" material in the future (11th?), since we already have the Scorpions via Kill Team.

I have no idea if it is true or not, but I do like the story that the person who sculpted the Scorpions was meant to sculpt him, then left (or was let go) without doing him, and no project manager in the Studio noticed...

 Arbitrator wrote:
Karandras seems prime "one new character model for a new codex" material in the future (11th?), since we already have the Scorpions via Kill Team.

Honestly that was my expectation for this edition after the huge dump we got in 9th. But it seems GW wants to purge the old Finecast out of the line. No complaints from me about that. My wallet is weeping quietly, but it does that...

Probably worth posting the Eldar codex cover for the funny, purple Marine taking a nap in the bottom right corner.

Makes you wonder if the next iteration of Emprah's Kiddies is going to look closer to their pre-Heresy color scheme, maybe with only the actual Noise Marines standing out. If that.

Also, funny bumps on breastplates incoming. Brace yourselves for renewed shouting matches about boob plate!

 Albertorius wrote:

 CMLR wrote:
Horses with claws. Evolutive eeck. If they were not labeled Empire I'd say they are cool traitor guardsmen.

Krieg artillery looking damn fine, but wake me up when they give Catachan the spotlight.

Loved everything about Eldar except no new Dire Avengers. That's sorely missing.

The DAs still using the old guardian bodies makes it kind of hilarious to me xD

DA bodies are not at all guardian bodies.

 Snord wrote:

 Shakalooloo wrote:

There's only five guys in the engineer squad (yikes at whatever that box price point ends up being...) so it can't be an upgrade to the ten-man sprues of the Kill Team squad.

There are 2 different sprues with components for 5 models on each. It looks as though these are the bodies from one of those sprues.

I don’t think they’ve ever done that before, taken half a kit (that isn’t just repeated sprues) and done an upgrade sprue for it. These will be new models/sprues. The poses don’t match and they have the metal leg things that aren’t on the kill team ones. Plus I think each half of the Krieg one has a kneeling pose - none of these are kneeling.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Snord wrote:

 Shakalooloo wrote:

There's only five guys in the engineer squad (yikes at whatever that box price point ends up being...) so it can't be an upgrade to the ten-man sprues of the Kill Team squad.

There are 2 different sprues with components for 5 models on each. It looks as though these are the bodies from one of those sprues.

I don’t think they’ve ever done that before, taken half a kit (that isn’t just repeated sprues) and done an upgrade sprue for it. These will be new models/sprues. The poses don’t match and they have the metal leg things that aren’t on the kill team ones. Plus I think each half of the Krieg one has a kneeling pose - none of these are kneeling.

Yeah, the Kill Team kit is not two separate sprues; it's one medium sprue folded in half and snapped along the cast-in weak points to fit in the box. Plus the smaller accessory sprue that has no bodies on it at all.
I can sort of see the engineer kit reusing that extra sprue but it seems more likely to end up in the command squad set.

 Geifer wrote:

Makes you wonder if the next iteration of Emprah's Kiddies is going to look closer to their pre-Heresy color scheme, maybe with only the actual Noise Marines standing out. If that.

I approve of this retcon if so. The black/pink colour scheme has never really conveyed the menace of the faction, somehow.

(I sort of wish they'd done this with DG as well - the implication is that they did, in a rather out-of-character way, repaint their armour, and they look great in a corrupted version of the HH livery.)

Gotta agree with everyone who doesn't like the feet of the new Krieg ponies. They just look weird and awful and do not fit the rest of the model, which is a huge shame as rest of the model looks really cool. And they are not like feet of the Forgeworld ponies. Those obviously didn't look like feet of normal horses either, but they did look like ungulate feet so they made sense with the rest of the anatomy.

Other than that, great reveals, I'm particularly happy to see so many new Eldar kits. Well, Asurmen's face looks a tad silly. (Not that the old one looked great either.)

I think the way they are painted and photographed highlights the feet a LOT more than normal. I think more muted colour transition from body to leg to foot and with a different angle of view (lets face it most of the time you'll be looking down on them not up) and I think it won't be a huge issue

The DKoK models feel like a dying Canary in the proverbial Coal Mine.

AoS has always leaned into the less gritty, more cartoony feel that regular Warhammer or 40k, now I feel that that esthetic is creeping into 40k.

The DKoK have a grim feeling, with a touch... or should I say toe hold... of the AoS cartoon feel.

Is there any art showing what the DKOK horses look like without the masks?

 skrulnik wrote:
Is there any art showing what the DKOK horses look like without the masks?

I assume this is close:


Filthy heretic horses.