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Dudeface wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

Voss wrote:

The Dreadknight is a painfully missed opportunity to fix the most comically ridiculed kit in the entire Games Workshop model range. I dunno, maybe its so bad it's good?

A couple new weapons and rocket launchers on the chest straps holding the 'baby' in place is certainly a choice.

Shame everything except that one special character is wildly out of scale with the entire range at this point.

Are those rockets or a set of frag assault launchers?

Not sure it matters too much, they're an instagib for the pilot if anything hits them either way.

The pilot wearing terminator plate?

Terminator armor sounds good in theory, until you remember that Grand Master Yelly McSquarejaw forgot his helmet on the strike cruiser. Again.

Excellent reveals. Wolves look good and I'm glad it is full new kits and not just upgrade sprues. I will be getting these for kitbashing for sure. Servitors look interesting as well, and of course Cathay is big and impressive surprise. Apart the babycarrier everything was great!

Wolves look kinda boring imo. Seems like the new Wolves upgrade sprue only has unhelmeted heads on it and nothing else. People better have a load of fur bits from the old upgrade sprues to wolven up their Wolves and cover up Primaris blandness.

Primaris space wolves with beakie helmets!

Seems like these Thousand Sons automata were meant to come out with something else. Something feels missing, four is such an odd number. I'll be intrigued to see what their rules are like and if they'll sell them in boxes of 2s like the Necromunda Automata.

 Gael Knight wrote:
Seems like these Thousand Sons automata were meant to come out with something else. Something feels missing, four is such an odd number. I'll be intrigued to see what their rules are like and if they'll sell them in boxes of 2s like the Necromunda Automata.

I feel like they should be about a head taller at the very least.

Are they a riff on something from the 80s? The shoulder missiles are really familiar.

Apart from that, an unfortunate blend of Ossiarch Bonereaper and 2nd edition plastic Tyranid Warrior aesthetics, and 0% CSM design language.

Im assuming the automata are two units of 2 models

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Are they a riff on something from the 80s? The shoulder missiles are really familiar.

Apart from that, an unfortunate blend of Ossiarch Bonereaper and 2nd edition plastic Tyranid Warrior aesthetics, and 0% CSM design language.

Same missle racks as the Thousand Son Terminators.

 LunarSol wrote:

 Gael Knight wrote:
Seems like these Thousand Sons automata were meant to come out with something else. Something feels missing, four is such an odd number. I'll be intrigued to see what their rules are like and if they'll sell them in boxes of 2s like the Necromunda Automata.

I feel like they should be about a head taller at the very least.

Yes at least the size of the SoB suits or the Penitent Engines. They do feel like GW has been sitting on these for a while because they're squeezed on to 40mm. Not that I'm asking for tactical rocks (we got one anyway).

They're growing on me through, maybe because they feel a bit retro.

Looking again, a better paintjob will do wonders. Who decided on bone trim on bone plates on black skeleton? FFS

These would have been nicer tho

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Looking again, a better paintjob will do wonders. Who decided on bone trim on bone plates on black skeleton? FFS

These would have been nicer tho

Snip'd pic above!

A more twisted by milennia of chaos version of these was kind of what I was expecting when I heard rumors of Tsons getting automata, like Death guard got with their flying thingy.

Sgt. Cortez wrote:
Wolves look kinda boring imo. Seems like the new Wolves upgrade sprue only has unhelmeted heads on it and nothing else. People better have a load of fur bits from the old upgrade sprues to wolven up their Wolves and cover up Primaris blandness.

It looks like 2 full kits, no upgrade sprues. Grey Knights are the ones relegated to an upgrade sprue only release.

Definitely agree on the robot paint scheme.

These colours instead make it look like part of the army:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

Dudeface wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

Voss wrote:

The Dreadknight is a painfully missed opportunity to fix the most comically ridiculed kit in the entire Games Workshop model range. I dunno, maybe its so bad it's good?

A couple new weapons and rocket launchers on the chest straps holding the 'baby' in place is certainly a choice.

Shame everything except that one special character is wildly out of scale with the entire range at this point.

Are those rockets or a set of frag assault launchers?

Not sure it matters too much, they're an instagib for the pilot if anything hits them either way.

The pilot wearing terminator plate?

Depends what's in the missiles, but I'm sure that 6 frag missiles going off (at best) on his chest has good odds of causing harm.

A lot of meh reactions from me, but I don't play any of the factions previewed.

The TS mechs really bother me though, it seems like they just gave up halfway through designing them. I think it's the lack of leg articulation so they're just standing bolt upright on the battlefield. Most of the other mechs in the game at least have some sort of braced pose or option to have one leg striding forward.

With the digitigrade legs there could have been a lot better poseability.

Although there are only like twelve Dreadknights in the entire Chapter, Grey Knights are going to continue to lean really hard into them.

 xttz wrote:
Definitely agree on the robot paint scheme.

These colours instead make it look like part of the army:

Spoiler:

Incredible improvement.

I really like the space wolves. The grey hunters have lots of awkward poses like most primaris that try to utilise both their arms. I would rather keep using the steady interceccors.

The new thousand sons automata looks way better than I imagined. I never did like the HH mech robots in k-sons, so these will most likely boost my thousand sons army.

 xttz wrote:
Definitely agree on the robot paint scheme.

These colours instead make it look like part of the army:

Spoiler:

Amazing mock up. Combine that with leftover tabards and other tzeentch bits and they'll look great. Sold.

Do we have a clue on the Release Windows for the Chaos Battleforces.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

Sgt. Cortez wrote:
Wolves look kinda boring imo. Seems like the new Wolves upgrade sprue only has unhelmeted heads on it and nothing else. People better have a load of fur bits from the old upgrade sprues to wolven up their Wolves and cover up Primaris blandness.

It looks like 2 full kits, no upgrade sprues. Grey Knights are the ones relegated to an upgrade sprue only release.

Oh, really? Makes them much worse in my eyes as they look just like the generic Primaris but with the occasional SW/ older MK head.

I don't have an issue with the current baby carrier, so the addition of an upgrade sprue is neither here nor there to me. It's always had a Terminator pilot too.

What I'm not happy about is the lack of GK Terminators. 10th Edition is the Terminator edition. GK are the Terminator army. Where the are the new Terminators?

So, for the factions featured in the preview, I'd say World Eaters (definitely) and Grey Knights (arguably) players have grounds to grumble about what was shown - even more so if either lose access to their generic units as well (a point which will also apply to DG and 1KSons).

World Eaters needed a proper second wave, not a single character release - though the character filling a unit-leading gap helps.

I suspect GK won't see redone Terminators until they're ready to rescale their whole line.

 xttz wrote:
Definitely agree on the robot paint scheme.

These colours instead make it look like part of the army:

Spoiler:

Oh, that is SO much better!

I've had a Dreadknight for 10 years that had had only one ranged weapon. I'm thinking of using the giant pistol from the Invictor warsuit (holstered version) replacing the barrel with a giant melta barrel, and replacing the magazine with fuel tanks of some sort. Should make it look okay.

Who wants some KT datasheets?

https://assets.warhammer-community.com/eng_warhammer40000_goremongers_datasheet-v7ofc9jogl-bsmuycrjl1.pdf

https://assets.warhammer-community.com/eng_wh40k_otherrules_sororitas_sanctifiers_apr25-ltbrxbrijo-puqsdteq1f.pdf

Goremongers look like a decent and needed utility piece for world eaters, I expect to see at least one unit in every vaguely competitive list

can't imagine anyone using the sisters team. good bundle of characters, i'm sure i'll see some kitbashes of it, but it reminds me a lot of AOS underworlds units

Repaint makes it worse. This is like when people paint their Knights in chapter colours or something, bit of an immersion downgrade.