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More updates, (potentially) more delays...

https://gamefound.com/en/projects/mwg--wargames-atlantic/the-damned/updates/91

Don't worry we fixed it!
So this is somewhat embarasing but you're in this too - there's only one power backpack on the main Heavy Infantry sprue! We don't know how it happened and nobody called it out for months but here we are. We realized last month the set wasn't complete without enough backpacks to hook the tubes into. So we had to quickly tool up some backpacks and here they are.

Production has already finished in the UK and they are hitting the warehouse later this week. The US production on these will take place as soon as we get the mold over from the UK.

So slainte we're sorry about the mess up but fixing it now!

So much for getting my pledge this year.

Another snafu on The Damned is rather upsetting.

 RustyNumber wrote:
I suggested the generic "battlefield terrain sprue" tank traps, sandbags, barrels, supply crates all nice and generic in a handy multipack.

That's already going to be in the Marcher starter.
https://gamefound.com/en/projects/golden-dragon-games-inc/marcher-empires-at-war-first-edition?ref=project-advert-banner_marcher-empires-at-war-first-edition

 Ohman wrote:
The 10mm English and French Agincourt-armies have been released. Looking so good my suggestion for the competition is that they do War of the Roses infantry in 10mm.

On sale in much bigger army-packs compared to other 10mm releases:

https://wargamesatlantic.com/collections/grand-battle-scale/products/azincourt-english-army
https://wargamesatlantic.com/collections/grand-battle-scale/products/azincourt-french-army

Spoiler:

Wow those are a lot of minis. Going to check the price at my FLGS...

 Eilif wrote:

 ritualnet wrote:
Modular Beast-men. Like the classic Warhammer books, where they were different creatures and mutations. Throw in both modern and fantasy arms too so they can fit into most people's games.

Interstingly the "The Damned" Beastmen, actually fit this pretty well. Not much in terms of mutations, but the sprue includes a variety ofnon-sci-fi beastmen animal head types and options for hands with CCWs. Also, their armor/shirts are as suitable for fantasy as sci-fi.

Spoiler:

Could really be spiced up with an additional sprue of arms, sheilds, weapons and mutations though...

I deliberately ordered some of these with the intention of doing them as fantasy troops. I'll probably add a few bits and pieces from my bits library though.

That is nice! I've only just seen this as I wasn't looking at the damned stuff much!
A mutations sprue with a few bodies, different heads, and arms etc, would make that into a really nice kit for fantasy and sci-fi!

 ritualnet wrote:


That is nice! I've only just seen this as I wasn't looking at the damned stuff much!
A mutations sprue with a few bodies, different heads, and arms etc, would make that into a really nice kit for fantasy and sci-fi!

IIRC, a mutations sprue might have been one of the stretch goals that wasn't reached? I'm not even doing a Chaos force and I'd have had a sprue or two just for general conversions. Luckily my bits box has a fair amount of mutant-ish bits and lots of CCW in it, but a proper sprue would be such a useful addition and so many folks have asked about one over the years.

Another set worth looking at if you're ok with more heavily armored Beastmen is "Frostgrave Demons"

https://www.northstarfigures.com/prod.php?prod=15222





Only one major style of Beastman head and not the animal varieties that I like, but there's enough to do the whole set as beastmen and lots of weapon options. Between the two kits you could probably mix and match and make nicely varried light and Heavy Beastman units.

You could also separate out some of the less beasty torsos to make chaos warriors.

Many people have raised the idea of a mutations sprue, and it was an option that WGA put to a vote during the Damned campaign, but of course it lost to Heavy Infantry. (Not what I'd call a fair competition, putting a kitbashing mod kit up against an essential core unit.) They should have made both.

Here's the WIP of the mutation sprue that WGA showed at the time (as applied to standard male Damned troopers):



I'd like a lot more variety than this WIP shows, but I'd certainly buy the complete version, and I still think a mutation sprue like this is a great idea. Note that they made the mutations so they'd fit in with fantasy as well as they do with sci-fi.

One objection the last time I brought it up was that mutations can look silly or cartoonish (I don't remember the exact turn of phrase,) but I don't really think that's an issue. GW's chaos mutants have always been partly absurd, since their mutations are based on sin and dark magic rather than genetics. That said, 'proper' sci-fi mutants frequently look a bit silly as well - The Thing (not technically a mutant, but it was essentially always mutating) grew a mouth in its stomach, which was horrific and one of Carpenter's most famous gruesome moments, but it (not to mention the equally memorable walking spider head) was also a bit ridiculous, even wryly humorous. And how many variations on tentacled humans have you seen over the course of your sci-fi geekhood? Why are tentacles (rather than, say, beaks) considered the most probable mutations by so many sci-fi properties? Basically because they look cool. Miniature mutants have always been a bit silly, and gamers nevertheless love them, warts and all.

I'm basically of the opinion that you can never have too many options for mutations, so a mutation sprue would be an easy sell to me. I'd happily buy 20 completely different mutation sprues.

And yes, you can 3-D print mutation options, but that's not really saying anything. You can 3-D print your entire miniature collection these days, but enough people still prefer polystyrene's ease of use, higher durability, and lesser toxicity that traditional miniature manufacturers are still in business.

As long as the quality and variety of a hard plastic mutation sprue were done well, I think it would sell. In WGA's case, the existence of the Damned line of products even gives it an immediate context. I bet there'd be plenty of Damned buyers (not to mention kitbashers of other lines) who'd like to add variety to their troopers and beastmen with some choice mutations.

I mean, if they have now tanks on the table, chances are that the damned become quite popular, so maybee they will revisit the Mutant sprue.

Not Online!!! wrote:
I mean, if they have no tanks on the table, chances are that the damned become quite popular, so maybee they will revisit the Mutant sprue.

I keep hoping so and that the kit would allow Spawn sized mutants as well, similar to how the WGA Harvesters

The Damned mutation tentacles at least look better than the ones on the Weird War upgrade sprue. Those are terrible. Agree that tentacles are way over-done though.

 Eilif wrote:

 ritualnet wrote:


That is nice! I've only just seen this as I wasn't looking at the damned stuff much!
A mutations sprue with a few bodies, different heads, and arms etc, would make that into a really nice kit for fantasy and sci-fi!

...

Another set worth looking at if you're ok with more heavily armored Beastmen is "Frostgrave Demons"

https://www.northstarfigures.com/prod.php?prod=15222





Only one major style of Beastman head and not the animal varieties that I like, but there's enough to do the whole set as beastmen and lots of weapon options. Between the two kits you could probably mix and match and make nicely varried light and Heavy Beastman units.

You could also separate out some of the less beasty torsos to make chaos warriors.

Just a note for others considering using the Frostgrave Demons kit:

The arms are very very short and I don't think they will look good on normal size miniatures. They do make for terrific evil dwarf arms though, which is what I've used them for.

I always liked the Weta Hobbit Goblins



For a fairly realistic take on morlocks/mutants

I'd be interested in a bespoke mutant kit (with lots of extra compatible bits) rather than a mutant upgrade sprue. Hunchbacks, tumors, misshapen limbs, rags, you get the idea.

 Eilif wrote:

 ritualnet wrote:
Modular Beast-men. Like the classic Warhammer books, where they were different creatures and mutations. Throw in both modern and fantasy arms too so they can fit into most people's games.

Interstingly the "The Damned" Beastmen, actually fit this pretty well. Not much in terms of mutations, but the sprue includes a variety ofnon-sci-fi beastmen animal head types and options for hands with CCWs. Also, their armor/shirts are as suitable for fantasy as sci-fi.

Could really be spiced up with an additional sprue of arms, sheilds, weapons and mutations though...

I deliberately ordered some of these with the intention of doing them as fantasy troops. I'll probably add a few bits and pieces from my bits library though.

how did I miss those?

What's the manufacturer?

SU-152 wrote:

 Eilif wrote:

 ritualnet wrote:
Modular Beast-men. Like the classic Warhammer books, where they were different creatures and mutations. Throw in both modern and fantasy arms too so they can fit into most people's games.

Interstingly the "The Damned" Beastmen, actually fit this pretty well. Not much in terms of mutations, but the sprue includes a variety ofnon-sci-fi beastmen animal head types and options for hands with CCWs. Also, their armor/shirts are as suitable for fantasy as sci-fi.

Could really be spiced up with an additional sprue of arms, sheilds, weapons and mutations though...

I deliberately ordered some of these with the intention of doing them as fantasy troops. I'll probably add a few bits and pieces from my bits library though.

how did I miss those?

What's the manufacturer?

They're the Beastmen kit from "The Damned" crowd fund campaign. I imagine they'll hit retail next year after backer fulfillment completes.

I’m hopeful the Damned beastmen will play nicely with the Frostgrave Gnoll sprue (possibly a closer match than the demons) between them should be able to make some feral beasts.

 rosafari wrote:
I’m hopeful the Damned beastmen will play nicely with the Frostgrave Gnoll sprue (possibly a closer match than the demons) between them should be able to make some feral beasts.

That's a fantastic idea!

 Eilif wrote:

 rosafari wrote:
I’m hopeful the Damned beastmen will play nicely with the Frostgrave Gnoll sprue (possibly a closer match than the demons) between them should be able to make some feral beasts.

That's a fantastic idea!

I hadn't thought about the Gnolls but that's a good call. That just makes me want the mutations even more.

From a photo on Facebook that I can't upload

Upcoming Baron's War releases for 2026
King John campaign book wave
Foot Command
Mounted Command
Militant Monks
Outlaws
Welsh
Scottish
Men at Arms

Outremer
Military Order Foot
Military Order Mounted
?? Possibly Settler Unarmored
?? Settler Foot arm...
?? Settler Mounted

 legionaires wrote:
From a photo on Facebook that I can't upload

Upcoming Baron's War releases for 2026
King John campaign book wave
Foot Command
Mounted Command
Militant Monks
Outlaws
Welsh
Scottish
Men at Arms

Outremer
Military Order Foot
Military Order Mounted
?? Possibly Settler Unarmored
?? Settler Foot arm...
?? Settler Mounted

Looks like it's going to be a great year for Baron's War.

I don't think it's Men at Arms, they're not really relevant for the period. The description in the image seems to read 'Men of...' so I think it's actually something different.

For Outremer, I think it's Seljuks rather than settlers.

Steve

Plastic Seljuks would be great, especially given that I don't see much in the way of troop builders for them on Footsore's site.

RedRowan wrote:
I don't think it's Men at Arms, they're not really relevant for the period. The description in the image seems to read 'Men of...' so I think it's actually something different.

For Outremer, I think it's Seljuks rather than settlers.

Steve

Men of Sherwood?

Update 92 wrote:Here's a little update on where we are as of today.

Hello all!

Let's just get straight into it. The Heavy Infantry Backpacks are complete in the UK and we are now in the process of migrating all of the data for the UK, EU and RoW pledges from Gamefound into Shopify to begin fulfilment. All being well that should begin at the beginning of January.

The Heavy Infantry Backpack mold has just landed in the US and will be with the factory soon. When it lands the team will start running the mold which won't take too long. We should be in a position to resume fulfilment at the same time as the UK/EU/RoW at the beginning of January.

It has been great to see some of The Damned on peoples painting desks. I can't wait for everyone else to get theirs!

Best wishes

Charlie

 legionaires wrote:
From a photo on Facebook that I can't upload

I think this is it.

In case you missed it, Sprue Game polls are added about one per day on the main site

https://wargamesatlantic.com/

Hmmm I feel like I ought not vote, as I'm likely to pick the "fun" stuff (ie pirates, trebuchets) because I'm not a historical gamer. And while I *might* buy them if they came to fruition it still feels like poisoning a vote not really "for me"...

Definitely some interesting options. I'd like to have Skaelings for Pillage

Skraelings are the Thule / proto-Inuit, right? So seal-skin parkas and bone spears during this period? That's an interesting look which I've never seen miniatures for. Seems unlikely to sell well though, even compared to Landsknecht Ogres. On the other hand, I guess these polls are intended to allow weird ideas to have a chance.

 Perfect Organism wrote:
Skraelings are the Thule / proto-Inuit, right? So seal-skin parkas and bone spears during this period? That's an interesting look which I've never seen miniatures for. Seems unlikely to sell well though, even compared to Landsknecht Ogres. On the other hand, I guess these polls are intended to allow weird ideas to have a chance.

No. Skraelings is the name the Norse gave to north American natives when they encountered them. L'Anse aux Meadows, Newfoundland, Canada was one of, if not the only main settlement of the Norse in North America.

 McDougall Designs wrote:

 Perfect Organism wrote:
Skraelings are the Thule / proto-Inuit, right? So seal-skin parkas and bone spears during this period? That's an interesting look which I've never seen miniatures for. Seems unlikely to sell well though, even compared to Landsknecht Ogres. On the other hand, I guess these polls are intended to allow weird ideas to have a chance.

No. Skraelings is the name the Norse gave to north American natives when they encountered them. L'Anse aux Meadows, Newfoundland, Canada was one of, if not the only main settlement of the Norse in North America.

That would be the Thule.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thule_people

Common (by which I mean the minis used in the example warbands for Saga) often depicts them more like people from 500 years later, but that region is COLD. Oddly the closest models I've found for general wargaming pseudo accuracy are the free folk raiders from CMON's ASOIAF game, and perhaps a few minis from other boxes in that range. Heavy sealskin clothing, bone weapons, fur lining. Mythicos studios has some Inuit in their Mythic Americas range but I've not seen them in person.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 legionaires wrote:
From a photo on Facebook that I can't upload

I think this is it.

Just realized that last list of boxes is Seljuk infantry and mounted. Nice to get something a bit different from existing ranges.

A little bit of news.

https://wargamesatlantic.com/blogs/news/wargames-atlantic-is-coming-to-salute-53-and-we-re-going-big