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I don't mind the same story structure being retold if its done well. Force Awakens problem wasn't that it retold a similar story to New Hope; its that it was just poorly told
Easy E wrote: There was also a Channing Tatum led horror movie called Blink Twice that looked like it thought it was really clever, but I don't think it will be as clever as it wants us to think it is going to be. If that made any sense.....
That is Zoey Kravitz's (Catwoman in The Batman) directorial debut and the original title she fought for but the studio, and really pretty much everyone else, would absolutely not go for is, and this is both spoilered and censored, was:
Spoiler:
P*ssy Island
So now you know that too.
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Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
Easy E wrote: Here is what I took from the trailer. If you like Alien you should probably just go watch Alien. It looks like Scott as the Producer is just having the new director make their version of the original Alien. Fair enough, but nothing new to see there really.
Reminds me of how The Force Awakens is basically just A New Hope again.
You could say the same thing about Prey. At its core, it is just Predator. But, what it did right was presenting things in a very different way, and playing with the existing tropes in a new and genuinely interesting way. The film makers considered and understood what makes a Predator a fearsome foe, and found new ground to explore that in. And it worked out really well.
As I waffled about and even done a YouTube video on, Alien Ressurrection followed Aliens in that vein - taking the standard tropes and doing something interesting with them, even if the end product was a bit wonky.
Prometheus and the other one? Yeah they were exercises in answering a fascinating question in the dullest and least interesting way possible.
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At least in Prey they change the setting drastically. Always a good way to re-invigorate an old plot, because conventions and even trope /genre expectations have to adjust with it.
For example you can not replicate the famous firing into the jungle scene within a pre-gunpowder Native American setting.
Alien: Romulus looks to be in a space station as opposed to a space ship. Not exactly a drastic setting change. Now, once it comes out I could be 100% and completely wrong.
I also have no doubt that the new director can bring the suspense and fear to make this a horror franchise again rather than a sci-fi one. He has proven his abilities in this area in the past.
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2024/08/15 22:11:28
Subject: Re:Thread for Upcoming Movies and Trailers
Kinda surprising Disney goes for theatrical sequel in a title which did fine but wasn't huge or anything. But apparently it has done well in streaming services, and songs are really popular, so why not. Seems they're continuing on the theme of epic journeys.
LordofHats wrote: If I recall, Moana the movie did just okay in theaters, but merchandise was pretty successful.
And yeah. The songs were pretty catchy. I gotta give them that.
687 million for an animated movie is pretty dang good. It was also just a big deal with all the songs, promotion, pre-anti everything is woke even a story about another culture/mythos. It's the 4th most successful disney animation behind Frozen, Frozen 2, and Zootopia. Honestly I think they're hoping for what they got out of Frozen 2. A box office similar or greater to the original.
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Hulksmash wrote: 687 million for an animated movie is pretty dang good.
Have to remember this is Disney so while not a bomb it isn't what they want out of their big releases; for most people that sounds like a lot but for them it is a rounding error; they aren't mad they're just disappointed.
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
Including the films budget and marketing, doubling your investment is (somehow) 'not good enough' in entertainment anymore.
I don't get it either.
I'm not saying Moana was bad or a failure. It was a modest success. I am saying that, aside from the film, there was a lot of merchandise for Moana and that stuff sold as far as I know.
The movie could have tanked and still be deemed a success as long as it sold enough merch. Moana sold merch. I'm not particularly surprised there's another one.
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LordofHats wrote: Including the films budget and marketing, doubling your investment is (somehow) 'not good enough' in entertainment anymore.
I don't get it either.
I'm not saying Moana was bad or a failure. It was a modest success. I am saying that, aside from the film, there was a lot of merchandise for Moana and that stuff sold as far as I know.
The movie could have tanked and still be deemed a success as long as it sold enough merch. Moana sold merch. I'm not particularly surprised there's another one.
Hedging your bets, I guess.
Despite best intentions, every studio is gonna know some of their releases aren’t going to turn a profit. And it’s not always predictable which might flop. And so profits made on Movie A, could be balancing the books for Movies B and C, where B just about broke even and C tanked horribly. Net result in this deliberately simplistic example is across all three? You’ve barely, if at all, made profit as a studio.
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With all that preamble out of the way, let’s discuss the often debated break-even number for most movies. For a long time, the typical break-even point has been a box office total that is 2.5 times the budget of a given film. This multiplier assumes that the total cost of the film is the budget x 1.5 and that studios will get 60% of the overall box office. Depending on where a movie makes most of its money and how much the studio spends on marketing, this can be a fairly accurate metric. It is still true, however, that a more accurate multiplier for many of today’s top-grossing big-budget films might actually be closer to 3 times the budget due to higher-than-average marketing spending and/or a smaller percentage of the total box office compared to previous years. Ultimately, we can still get a pretty good idea of how much a movie has made or lost, even though it is far from an exact science.
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Charts with Dan breaks down how much the studios keep from box office sales based on region as well as the week, as studios keep more in the first two weeks than later weeks. Sometimes he’ll discuss how streaming, merchandising and other ancillary profit sources factor in, but compared to the 80’s and 90’s those bring in a lot less money.
Looks beautiful and surreal and pretentious as all get out. I’m tentatively interested, even if only for the weirdness.
There’s also a whiff of Old Man Yells at Kids in the narration. I wonder how that will play out.
Second trailer for 'Megalopolis' and it looks like it's going to be a real headscratcher (at best):
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It sounds like either some wild new form of viral marketing (libel sure seems like a great way to win over the critics XD) or it seems like the kind of feth up an AI would make. That or the director has firmly crossed the transwarp threshold up his own ass.
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With all that preamble out of the way, let’s discuss the often debated break-even number for most movies. For a long time, the typical break-even point has been a box office total that is 2.5 times the budget of a given film. This multiplier assumes that the total cost of the film is the budget x 1.5 and that studios will get 60% of the overall box office. Depending on where a movie makes most of its money and how much the studio spends on marketing, this can be a fairly accurate metric. It is still true, however, that a more accurate multiplier for many of today’s top-grossing big-budget films might actually be closer to 3 times the budget due to higher-than-average marketing spending and/or a smaller percentage of the total box office compared to previous years. Ultimately, we can still get a pretty good idea of how much a movie has made or lost, even though it is far from an exact science.
It was better that I thought it would be. The "tatoo-gangsta" theme is not my cup of tea at all, but otherwise I felt at home with it's supernatural avenging angel theme. We used to love films like Pale Rider and Robocop growing up, and the 1994 Crow was a welcome addition. This one is different enough and the action scenes are quite brutal - the goon squad has a really bad day at the office...
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2024/08/23 22:53:26
Subject: Re:Thread for Upcoming Movies and Trailers
It’s a throwback to weird, disgusting 80’s movies—today! An unhappy square of a guy decides to add some spice to his life by calling a “party line” service to talk to Frankie Freako, a disgusting little creature who knows how to party. There are lots of stylistic callbacks to Garbage Pail Kids, Munchies, Munchie, Ghoulies and even Howard the Duck or Cool World.
It comes out in October and I hope I get a chance to check it out with friends.
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