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ccs wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
The absence of China from a crisis in the Indian Ocean (which China literally borders) was jarring. Especially with Japan there. France, does France have some island in the Indian Ocean that I'm forgetting? The UK has one that they just announced they're returning. France?

Head canon, the treaty was meant to keep China out.

You're over thinking it.
Is China not being involved really any less believable/ more jarring than a giant space-god NOT causing catastrophic damage to the planet as it crawls out of the Earths core?

Which you would think would cause some severe discomfort to humanity. The day the core of the Earth woke up.

Also, did anyone else see the moon sized celestial hovering over the earth from Eternals?

Between everything that's happened in the MCU (e.g., the Chitauri invasion of New York City, the Blip, etc.), I would say that volcanic activity raising a new land mass in the Indian Ocean (as most governments would most likely have spun it) barely registers to most people.

And as for Arishem showing up, I got the distinct impression that he made sure that the majority of the population did not remember that event.

Remember when people were complaining about the Celestial event in The Eternals was never mentioned in the MCU?


Pepperidge Farms remembers.

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
Which you would think would cause some severe discomfort to humanity.

It is only a problem if that severe discomfort lasts more than four hours.

 Ahtman wrote:

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
Which you would think would cause some severe discomfort to humanity.

It is only a problem if that severe discomfort lasts more than four hours.

You'd think something the size of a Celestial crawling out of the Earths core would definitely cause discomfort for more than 4 hours....
You know, screw up the whole rotation & gravity bit.

And yes, I thought it odd that the event went unmentioned in other projects.
But, since this is the Multiverse phase.... I'd hoped that this Eternals dumbness was just taking place on some other Earth.

 Easy E wrote:
Remember when people were complaining about the Celestial event in The Eternals was never mentioned in the MCU?


Pepperidge Farms remembers.

It only took them 4 years and them re-introducing it in a half-assed way to shoe-horn in adamantium with a forced conflict between Japan and the States, but yeah, I guess better late than never. The funnier part is them drudging up the Leader after 17 years with no real reason and to end off with him in the end credits literally warning about what everyone already knows about for the past 3 years as if it's something mind-blowing.

ccs wrote:
You'd think something the size of a Celestial crawling out of the Earths core would definitely cause discomfort for more than 4 hours....

Mass hypnosis, Celestial magic, or mind control: there has always been a giant head and hand sticking out of the Indian Ocean.

 Grimskul wrote:

 Easy E wrote:
Remember when people were complaining about the Celestial event in The Eternals was never mentioned in the MCU?


Pepperidge Farms remembers.

It only took them 4 years and them re-introducing it in a half-assed way to shoe-horn in adamantium with a forced conflict between Japan and the States, but yeah, I guess better late than never. The funnier part is them drudging up the Leader after 17 years with no real reason and to end off with him in the end credits literally warning about what everyone already knows about for the past 3 years as if it's something mind-blowing.

Well yeah but the movie was supposed to have been released awhile ago and got heavily delayed.

 Ahtman wrote:

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
Which you would think would cause some severe discomfort to humanity.

It is only a problem if that severe discomfort lasts more than four hours.

Remember to consult a doctor...
I'm not sure if this would be in Doctor Strange's department.

Speaking of which, are there only 3 doctors in Marvel Comics? Drs. Strange, Octavius, and Doom... (which sounds like the second best law firm there is).

Edit: Forgot Dr. Bong.

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
Speaking of which, are there only 3 doctors in Marvel Comics? Drs. Strange, Octavius, and Doom... (which sounds like the second best law firm there is).

Edit: Forgot Dr. Bong.

https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Category: Physicians

And those are just the medical doctors, not including the many with a doctorate.

I don't know how giant space gods work. I do know how geopolitics works.

 Lathe Biosas wrote:

 Ahtman wrote:

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
Which you would think would cause some severe discomfort to humanity.

It is only a problem if that severe discomfort lasts more than four hours.

Remember to consult a doctor...
I'm not sure if this would be in Doctor Strange's department.

Speaking of which, are there only 3 doctors in Marvel Comics? Drs. Strange, Octavius, and Doom... (which sounds like the second best law firm there is).

Edit: Forgot Dr. Bong.

Dr. Kurt Connors
Doc Sampson
Doctor Slectrum
Dr. Druid

Those are the 1st four that come to mind that actually use the title & Connors & Sampson have appeared live-action.
I'm sure there's more (but far less than over in DC)

Dr Reed Richards. Dr. Susan Storm. Dr Hank Pym. Dr. Bruce Banner.

It is like a scene from Spies Like Us

All shaking hands and greeting one another:
"Doctor"
"Doctor"
"Doctor"
"Doctor"

As is tradition;

 LordofHats wrote:
As is tradition;

Knocks it out of the park again, saves you the time, money and provides better entertainment than having to go to the theatre to watch this slop. My favourite was how on point it was about how there's basically no real antagonist in the movie given that the Leader is just there to mess around with the President and he gives up straight away.

Regarding the Pitch Meeting: the scream is new, right?

Laughed my ass off at work because of it.

 nels1031 wrote:
Regarding the Pitch Meeting: the scream is new, right?

Laughed my ass off at work because of it.

It's definitely new, it got me too the first time around

I still say Captain America is a perfectly fine movie, better than most of this phase, and is only really hindered by the fact it plays more like a mystery thriller but the trailers already gave away all the answers.

 AduroT wrote:
I still say Captain America is a perfectly fine movie, better than most of this phase, and is only really hindered by the fact it plays more like a mystery thriller but the trailers already gave away all the answers.

I suspect it was originally written as an almost pure political thriller that test audiences bounced off of due to a lack of action. Not saying they're wrong, just what I'm suspecting created the delay.

So how did people feel about the look of The Leader?

Haven't watched this yet, but I'm glad the anti-woke brigade seems to have been thwarted on this one. Probably gonna go see it this weekend.

 Ahtman wrote:
So how did people feel about the look of The Leader?

He looked like a second season Buffy monster, and not one of the important ones.

Bad special effects usually don’t take me out of movies, but I was amused every time The Leader appeared to be greenscreened in, or in a couple scenes deepfaked. The film’s behind the scenes antics are almost certainly more compelling than the character we got onscreen.

 Ahtman wrote:
So how did people feel about the look of The Leader?

They went more body horror.

His head has a lot of mishapen lumps. The green skin is a little sickly pale. Eyes glow in the dark. Its more gamma monster. I think it's pretty great imo.

I wish he had two full eyes instead of the one being all squinty. Head could have been a bit bigger as well, maybe less lopsided.

Hands down the best film of this phase except for Wolverine vs. Deadpool. This would have been so good released after the show and the eternals and so lord did they mishandle it but outside of that (and the weirdly tiny russian in charge of presidential security) it was really really good. Characters you actually like, extension of characters you started to like on the show, a few call backs.

Overall the big bad being a thinker, while not as well done as the Baron (or whoever he was), instead of a brawler was nicely different. I like Cap as an agent of chaos

You'd have though that somebody would realise the one sure fire way to kill any sort of serial is to release the episodes in the wrong order, so it was exceedingly dumb to delay this so long

Victor Vin Doom is not a doctor, he was ABD when he tried opening a gate to Hell in his lab and was expelled before graduation.

Maybe he gave himself a PhD from the University of Latvaria

 Ahtman wrote:
So how did people feel about the look of The Leader?

That’s not the Leader.
That’s a dude with broccoli on his head.

Do I need to watch Falcon and the Winter Soldier before watching the new Captain America?