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Final Trailer



'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

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Still don't know how their team is supposed to handle someone like Sentry when the upper tier of their group is pretty much basic super-soldier strength and a bit of phasing shenanigans with Ghost. I know there's gonna be some macguffin to them beating the Void, but I'm pretty sure at this point it'll be some psychological "You're better than this" from Yelena or someone else when they get eaten by the Void to somehow neutralize his powers, which would be another really lame way of beating him given they basically did that extremely poorly with Red Hulk and Sam in Brave New World.
   
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So the movie summary of the Thunderbolts got leaked and uhhhhh yeah, it's about what I expected. If anyone is like me and just wants a synopsis, I've put the link of the movie spoilers down below:

Spoiler:


https://leaflet.pub/f9bfbb4b-bee5-48af-8d93-d82dcd00ca25

https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelStudiosSpoilers/comments/1k5zejc/thunderbolts_plot/

I think one of the funniest things (in a bad way) is how much they've made the Black Widow movie even more irrelevant from how so Ava kills Antonia, Yelena's only real connection with anyone, and Yelena is just "whatever" about it? It makes Nats arc in BW of realising her past has come back to hunt her and her getting a second chance to not kill Antonia but save her instead completely pointless now. Guess they gave up on making Taskmaster work which I guess is fine given how barebones they were already as a villain and away from the mainstream comics version.

I guess their squad is the New Avengers now, but I assume not for long since they're probably going to be merked by Doctor Doom when he gets introduced. That or Sam successfully sues them somehow?



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 Grimskul wrote:
Still don't know how their team is supposed to handle someone like Sentry when the upper tier of their group is pretty much basic super-soldier strength and a bit of phasing shenanigans with Ghost. I know there's gonna be some macguffin to them beating the Void, but I'm pretty sure at this point it'll be some psychological "You're better than this" from Yelena or someone else when they get eaten by the Void to somehow neutralize his powers, which would be another really lame way of beating him given they basically did that extremely poorly with Red Hulk and Sam in Brave New World.


I mean, yeah..... that was pretty obviously going to be the resolution even by just seeing the trailer.


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When the comic book protagonist is outmatched by the villain, the resolution is pretty much always going to be either 'find a macguffin' or 'talk them down'... Not really sure what else anyone would have been expecting, to be honest.

 
   
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 insaniak wrote:
When the comic book protagonist is outmatched by the villain, the resolution is pretty much always going to be either 'find a macguffin' or 'talk them down'... Not really sure what else anyone would have been expecting, to be honest.


You forgot the 80s classic - a training montage! Guaranteed to level-up the hero to beat the villain!

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Gonna go see it Friday. Never been to the cinema in the US before.

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 Overread wrote:
You forgot the 80s classic - a training montage! Guaranteed to level-up the hero to beat the villain!


Fair enough. Although in this particular case, I don't think any amount of running through the snow or bench-pressing a car would help...


Given everything we'd seen of it so far, this movie was always going to come down to either 'the power of teamwork!!!' or 'believe in yourself!!!'

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Gonna go see it Friday. Never been to the cinema in the US before.


Ask the hotel for a theater recommendation. Theater culture varies wildly, even in the same city. Near my house there’s a theater that is popular with rowdy kids going full Chicken Jockey, while the place down the street always has respectful, quiet audiences.

   
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 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Gonna go see it Friday. Never been to the cinema in the US before.


Ask the hotel for a theater recommendation. Theater culture varies wildly, even in the same city. Near my house there’s a theater that is popular with rowdy kids going full Chicken Jockey, while the place down the street always has respectful, quiet audiences.


And US Movie Theater butter is unlike any substance you can find anywhere in the world... mainly to laws that frown upon crimes against humanity.

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Our theater for the olds changed their popcorn sauce from the neon goo to real butter, and my mom complains about it every time she goes to the movies.

   
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I remember working at a movie theater as a teen. We were told to ask if they wanted "Buttery Topping" because we could get sued because it is not butter.

Just a butter-like substance you put on top.

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Just saw it here in New Delhi, good fun stuff and nice final stinger

 
   
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Just booked, screening is in about an hour.

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It's fine; it exists. To be honest, it feels like they tried to do Guardians of the Galaxy a bit.
   
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I very much enjoyed it. It’s not quite perfect (I feel we should be more familiar with Valentina, beyond a few post-credits-creeping). But the plot is good, and it explored a complex and sensitive theme in a competent, sympathetic but most importantly entertaining and engaging way.

Our cast has excellent chemistry which oozes off the screen at all times. And for me, the fight scenes are well choreographed, and well shot.

There are even some real shocker moments.

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Spoiler:
I appreciated that when the group did try to fight Sentry it went as well as you imagine it would. I thought the way they "talked down" Bob from being Void was fine and handled well. They had set the foundations for such a thing so it didn't feel out of left field. The ending with Valentina felt way to rushed and I'm not sure I buy Bucky just letting her get off without repercussions.

Of course we also now confirmation that the Fantastic Four are from another dimension. I kind of hope they are coming to our universe because they can't stop Galactus and the big boy finally got his nom noms.

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I enjoyed that Bob
Spoiler:
is essentially three characters. Bob, Sentry and Void.

Bob is a bit weird, but a good bloke at heart. And I look forward to further redemption for him as he learns to control….

Sentry. Who is super powerful, but pretty unhinged. Which allows]

Void a chance to manifest and take control.

It reminds me of Andy in Alien Romulus, though not a direct copy. And honestly, not as well developed. Still good though.

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 Ahtman wrote:
Spoiler:


Of course we also now confirmation that the Fantastic Four are from another dimension.


We've had that for a year+.
Disney told us that along time ago.
   
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ccs wrote:
 Ahtman wrote:
Spoiler:


Of course we also now confirmation that the Fantastic Four are from another dimension.


We've had that for a year+.
Disney told us that along time ago.


Guess I haven't been keeping up on every bit of errata D+ releases. Just within the last few weeks I saw people discussing online about this and they didn't seem to know it was already confirmed so it seems like it hasn't been disseminated all that widely. Of course I've also had to explain who the FF are recently, so it may be that what fans know and what general audiences know are different.

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Thought it was one of the better post-Endgame movies, but it wasn't amazing.
Spoiler:

I'm irritated that they did Thunderbolts without Zemo only to swerve at the end.

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When i saw it with an Indian audience the bigger cheer was for the end credits scene and...

Spoiler:
the number four


So it had better be goid.

 
   
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We really enjoyed this one. Might even see it again. The cast chemistry is just too much fun.

   
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Yeah, this was one of the better and more fun ones I've seen from marvel in a while. The last two have been above average for the entire run let alone this phase.

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Spoiler:
 bbb wrote:
I'm irritated that they did Thunderbolts without Zemo only to swerve at the end.


Spoiler:
I thought they might reveal de Fontaine as being Madame HYDRA, especially when Void is peaking into her past, as the MCU version of the reveal that it was actually Zemo in the original story. They wouldn't actually call her Madame HYDRA but there would have been something connecting her to the organization.

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new posters revealing the big twist and meaning of the *

https://bleedingcool.com/movies/thunderbolts-director-on-revealing-the-new-avengers-spoiler-poster/

Spoiler:



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 Ahtman wrote:


Spoiler:
I thought they might reveal de Fontaine as being Madame HYDRA, especially when Void is peaking into her past, as the MCU version of the reveal that it was actually Zemo in the original story. They wouldn't actually call her Madame HYDRA but there would have been something connecting her to the organization.


Well don't they basically reveal that...

Spoiler:

Valentina Allegra de Fontaine is in fact another Red Room operative?

A Russian asset? In US intelligence! Marvel movies are just crazy!

On an unrelated note here is a photo of Tulsi Gabbard.



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Well, when you say it like that....

I also, enjoyed this one. The New Avengers: We don't Like Each Other, But We Hate Our Boss Even More. The bickering kept the scenes rolling along, although it's hard reconciling current day Red Guardian with the competent undercover agent at the start of []iBlack Widow[/i], but I guess 20+ years in a Siberian prison with nothing to do but drink prion made vodka and brood on how your country let you down can do that to you.

Spoiler:

So, Taskmaster. She's on the posters, she's a sympathetic character, and she has a cool schtick. Whatever you may think of the backstory difference with the comic book character, she got a rough deal here. Why put her in the movie at all? I mean, they incinerated the room just to make sure. Was it just to prove that these are a bunch of killers? We'd already established that with the opening setup. To prove that 'Ghost' is a badass, because after they break out she's a 5th wheel, despite being the only one with an actual 'super' power? Maybe Olga didn't what to be in the marvel movies anymore.

They must have something special planned for Bob/Sentry/Void. The 'things are so bad we need bob to suit up despite the risk' denouement will get tiresome fast. Are he and Galactus going to kill each other is a movie or two's time?

   
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Oops my bad.

Spoiler:
I thought the flashback was supposed to show that Valentina Allegra de Fontaine was Russian and connected to the Red Room. Turns out they were speaking Italian and it was just there to show why she's so cynical. And apparently I cannot tell the difference between Russian and Italian

So no Russian intelligence assets in the MCU government. That would just be too crazy.

On an unrelated note, here is a picture of Tulsi Gabbard.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7a/Director_Tulsi_Gabbard_Official_Portrait.jpg/960px-Director_Tulsi_Gabbard_Official_Portrait.jpg

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MarkNorfolk wrote:
Well, when you say it like that....

I also, enjoyed this one. The New Avengers: We don't Like Each Other, But We Hate Our Boss Even More. The bickering kept the scenes rolling along, although it's hard reconciling current day Red Guardian with the competent undercover agent at the start of []iBlack Widow[/i], but I guess 20+ years in a Siberian prison with nothing to do but drink prion made vodka and brood on how your country let you down can do that to you.

Spoiler:

So, Taskmaster. She's on the posters, she's a sympathetic character, and she has a cool schtick. Whatever you may think of the backstory difference with the comic book character, she got a rough deal here. Why put her in the movie at all? I mean, they incinerated the room just to make sure. Was it just to prove that these are a bunch of killers? We'd already established that with the opening setup. To prove that 'Ghost' is a badass, because after they break out she's a 5th wheel, despite being the only one with an actual 'super' power? Maybe Olga didn't what to be in the marvel movies anymore.

They must have something special planned for Bob/Sentry/Void. The 'things are so bad we need bob to suit up despite the risk' denouement will get tiresome fast. Are he and Galactus going to kill each other is a movie or two's time?



Spoiler:
Knowing what happens to her makes the posters hilarious because it’s always just the same picture of her in her mask in the background. I wonder if they’re killing her off so they can do a “proper” Taskmaster.

 
   
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So who do we think is on...
Spoiler:

Sam Wilson's Newer Avengers?

I've got:

Captain America - Sam Wilson
Falcon - I can't remember his name
Black Panther 2 - I can't remember her name, Shuri? Was that it?
War Machine
Ant Man - because why not

Anyone else still around?

 
   
 
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