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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Prometheum5 wrote:
I will say that if you haven't tried a silicone palette yet, I highly recommend it. I got in on the Turbo Dork ones early on and I'd never go back to a hard plastic one.

Do you find the paint doesn’t dry as quickly?

It's mainly helping keep your paints contained and ease of cleanup. At the 1:30 mark:

Bah, they'll never produce anything as good as a disposable paper plate.

 Ghaz wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Prometheum5 wrote:
I will say that if you haven't tried a silicone palette yet, I highly recommend it. I got in on the Turbo Dork ones early on and I'd never go back to a hard plastic one.

Do you find the paint doesn’t dry as quickly?

It's mainly helping keep your paints contained and ease of cleanup.

This. Much better fit for the amount of paints I'm using and easy to cleanup and reuse.

Now that's just silly. Like others have said, you can get pallettes cheaper at art supply stores or even Walmart for a buck or less. It's a no from me.

I don't mind GW producing stuff like this - some people will like it, it helps their bottom line, and noone is being forced to buy it. But it is junk, nonetheless.

So any price yet?

I'm thinking $22

 RustyNumber wrote:

here is the issue
We are not in a vacuum anymore, hobbyists talk to one another, old mentors new.
so older players will advise against buying that and point to the local hobby supply store.
Making well made products everyone can use would be nothing but a benefit for GW, i used to recommend to old holder(new one is garbo)
but they dont.

hmm... huh

I like that it is silicone and not plastic, and has multiple sizes of wells.
I'm not so sure about the Servo-skull design.

I use a wet palette for most paints, a ceramique palette with many small wells for Contrast... and a row of wells that clip on my wet palette for metallics and larger amounts of Contrast so I'm pretty well set already.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:

We are not in a vacuum anymore, hobbyists talk to one another, old mentors new.
so older players will advise against buying that and point to the local hobby supply store.
Making well made products everyone can use would be nothing but a benefit for GW, i used to recommend to old holder(new one is garbo)
but they dont.

While that can be true, it isn't always. And if you're talking about online, well yeah, GW has a massive series of videos on learning to paint that take a very prescribed approach. May not be the best but got plenty of us in the door. It's as boring as the fact that maintaining the consistency of your paint on a wet palette is different to doing it on a dry one.

Well, it's annoyed me.

Other than a few paints/washes from GW, my only regular purchases are White Dwarf and a palette pad. Those pad's fit perfectly in the small gap I have on my hobby table and last for a good while. Art shop ones tend to be cheaper, but double the size, so are no good for me.

Damn you GW.

EDIT: It does surprise me though. I mean why would GW sell a 'one off' item when they could keep milking customers on a consumable?

 hotsauceman1 wrote:

 RustyNumber wrote:

Spoiler:

here is the issue
We are not in a vacuum anymore, hobbyists talk to one another, old mentors new.
so older players will advise against buying that and point to the local hobby supply store.
Making well made products everyone can use would be nothing but a benefit for GW, i used to recommend to old holder(new one is garbo)
but they dont.

I was going to say similar, but from the other angle. It's fun. It's not aimed at grumpy middle-aged men like me, or slayer sword competitors. 13 year old me would have snapped it up though.

Ooh, it's silicone, missed that. I wouldn't be unhappy if someone gave me one of those as a gift. They'll be nice for stores and they could do other shapes too. A boltgun shaped one or a Stormcast helmet etc. Fun idea

they missed a trick not doing a harlequin mask.

ZergSmasher wrote:Now that's just silly. Like others have said, you can get pallettes cheaper at art supply stores or even Walmart for a buck or less. It's a no from me.

Well, you can get plastic palettes there - can't say I recall seeing a silicone palettes for sale that cheap anywhere, which is the like-for-like comparison.

Snord wrote:I don't mind GW producing stuff like this - some people will like it, it helps their bottom line, and noone is being forced to buy it. But it is junk, nonetheless.

While I'm not in favour of the wasted space in the GW design, have you used a silicone palette before?

I'm a recent convert to silicone. I've got one of those fidget popper things specifically for using contrast/speedpaints and washes, where you wouldn't want them on a wet palette anyway.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
So any price yet?

I'm thinking $22

It's 12€. So... 15$?

That's quite acceptable. I'll get one, I love quirky little hobby gimmicks.

There's apparently pictures of a GW wet palette in packaging making the rounds. Has anyone seen them?

 Snrub wrote:
There's apparently pictures of a GW wet palette in packaging making the rounds. Has anyone seen them?

From reddit

Well, seems like GW went in the direction of making margin on a wet pallet by making it really, really cheap crap.

 The Phazer wrote:
Well, seems like GW went in the direction of making margin on a wet pallet by making it really, really cheap crap.

Looks like it’s just their normal packaging plastic with a sponge/sheets.

If they price right, might be fine.

Surprised the skull is in the “might be reasonable” range. I expected more. But that does happen. When the painting handles came out I was shocked as well at their price, and have bought 6 and love them.

Generally my view on GW hobby supplies is that they are not bad quality, but way overpriced for what you get. I expect a stupidly big markup, so when there is only a modest one I’m shocked.

Looks alright, and importantly functional.

Remember folks, Citadel tools are there predominantly for folk starting out, so a given Warhammer Store is as “one stop shop” as it can be (physical stock allowing, natch).

Are there cheaper/better value alternatives out there? Sure. But, there’s also a lot of stuff which isn’t well suited. Citadel brand at least has that promise it’ll do the job.

Me? I made my own wet palette cheaply enough, so I’m not exactly in the market for another. But there are lots of folk out there at different points on their own hobby experience to whom this will appeal.

Nevelon wrote:

 The Phazer wrote:
Well, seems like GW went in the direction of making margin on a wet pallet by making it really, really cheap crap.

Looks like it’s just their normal packaging plastic with a sponge/sheets.

If they price right, might be fine.

Surprised the skull is in the “might be reasonable” range. I expected more. But that does happen. When the painting handles came out I was shocked as well at their price, and have bought 6 and love them.

Generally my view on GW hobby supplies is that they are not bad quality, but way overpriced for what you get. I expect a stupidly big markup, so when there is only a modest one I’m shocked.

Yeah, I recently found myself in that section of the webstore, and by Malal I was more than a little unpleasantly surprised. The €41 for clippers was certainly the worst, but the knife and mouldline tool were easily twice the price of decent quality alternatives too. Since I'm not familiar with silicone palettes, it's difficult to say how they compare in price, and whether they're more reasonable, or still twice price of what is simply a cheaper bit of kit. The wet palette certainly looks very cheap, and might similarly appear reasonably priced by being the double of a low regular price, but we'll see.

(On some level, I would celebrate the reduction in plastic packaging by making the plastic packaging the product, but it does look a little miserable!)

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Remember folks, Citadel tools are there predominantly for folk starting out, so a given Warhammer Store is as “one stop shop” as it can be (physical stock allowing, natch).

Are there cheaper/better value alternatives out there? Sure. But, there’s also a lot of stuff which isn’t well suited. Citadel brand at least has that promise it’ll do the job.

While I've been in the hobby long enough not to get too upset over GW prices anymore, I do feel the markups on the tools irk me a bit regardless. Warhammer is expensive enough as it is, but while the number of new minis you get is pretty flexible, the starting costs for just a basic range of tools, paints and brushes really add up. I fear that precisely new prospective players looking at that will just walk away, with such a barrier to entry.

In the past I've often said that GW tools were good but overpriced but yeah the things like £31 for a pair of clippers do make me question just who the market for them really is.

They aren't high quality enough to justify the price and they aren't cheap enough for newbies who should in theory be super keen about getting more models.

It just seems like strange choice to overprice the tools when GW could just underprice them and upsell another box of models and really commit someone.



Then again it might be that adults are wise enough to hunt down cheaper options whilst parents are more keen to spend on "the proper tools" over "more toys" when getting their kid started.

The prices clearly have to work otherwise GW would have slashed them ages ago; but they've increasingly felt at odds compared to other alternatives.

They do sell cheap clippers though. The £31 ones are their premium offering. And while I might have missed it, it's only recently we've seen folk like Redgrass come in and offer something significantly better in that range. When I started it was just get a pair of cheap ones, or spend £70 on GodHands. The Citadel premium ones were marginally better than cheap ones. Not £20 better though.

 Snrub wrote:
There's apparently pictures of a GW wet palette in packaging making the rounds. Has anyone seen them?

Citadel already released the best wet palette ever made a long time ago, then stopped producing them when other companies started releasing over priced tat with logos on them.

I kind of want to buy one of the servo skulls, simply as I haven't been able to source one of the fidget popper things anywhere near me at all (We don't exactly have a wealth of shops in the countryside) and I've never really wanted on bad enough to find one online to order one. But they do seem a bit gimmicky and look like I'd use it like twice before getting annoyed with the shape/size and going back to regular plastic art trays.

Are normal regular art trays that hard for people to clean up? I find once I finish with a colour, if there is any amount left not worth saving (I have a basing pot that I sometimes save 'scrap' paint in for things like the first coat of glueing down terrain sand etc) simple spread it out over the whole palette and let it dry rather than leaving it in a pool. The thin layer dries quickly and the whole thing peals off every few weeks/months when it gets too much.

Works with regular acrylics but if you use a wet palette for those, you end up mostly using a ceramic/plastic palette with deeper wells for contrast paints, inks, washes, etc. Which you can't just spread out everywhere. I generally do find my ceramic wells a pain to clean out.

 Dryaktylus wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
So any price yet?

I'm thinking $22

It's 12€. So... 15$?

I'm kind of impressed, that seem comparable with non-GW products.