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I absolutely loved super hero comic books as a kid, especially Batman.

Sometime in the 2010s I just fell out of love with comic books. I never re-read them any more and I'm actually a bit embarrassed by how much time I spent on them and how encyclopedic my knowledge was.

That said I did like the latest Batman film, I thought it was pretty decent. But superhero comics on paper, just not for me any more.

 Da Boss wrote:
I absolutely loved super hero comic books as a kid, especially Batman.

Sometime in the 2010s I just fell out of love with comic books. I never re-read them any more and I'm actually a bit embarrassed by how much time I spent on them and how encyclopedic my knowledge was.

That said I did like the latest Batman film, I thought it was pretty decent. But superhero comics on paper, just not for me any more.

There might not be a new Batman...

When asked, “Are you going to do Batman again soon?” the actor responded, “I f–king hope so. I started out as young Batman and I’m going to be f–king old Batman by the sequel.”

He followed his response up by saying, “I’m 38, I’m old.”

Pattinson recently weighed in on the drama during an interview with Hero magazine, sharing he’s concerned he’ll be too “f—king old” to be Batman by the time they start shooting.

He followed his response up by saying, “I’m 38, I’m old.”

I don't like being able to relate to this

Born in 1980 and have a general fondness for most things from 80s-90s.

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:The only show I couldn’t get into again from my childhood was M.A.S.K.

Excellent theme song, amazing toys. But that cartoon is just too kiddy for me.

Not that there’s owt wrong with kiddy. But it’s not for me.

As a teenager in the 90s I rented a bunch of cartoons from a mom and pop video store that did 5 for 5 for 5 VHS rentals (5 tapes for 5 days for 5 dollars). MASK was the only one that absolutely did not hold up to childhood memories. There was something I could enjoy about most others that I watched, particularly GI Joe. It's straight up theater of the absurd for so many episodes.

SamusDrake wrote:Dr Who.

I remember being upset when they cancelled the show in the late 80s, and have always kept that in mind, but it got to the point where I just couldn't stand watching it anymore.

As a young kid in the 80s I remember watching Dr Who sometimes on PBS, but as a young teen in the 90s I watched and enjoyed the Sylvester McCoy episodes specifically. When it came back in the 2000s I was excited and enjoyed it. Then about halfway through Matt Smith's run I completely lost interest. It began to feel like every episode was too samey-wamey.

There's lots of things that I used to enjoy (I still do, but I used to, too), that I don't enjoy past a certain point.

Simpsons - love pre-2000, completely indifferent to the next 25 years of it.
Star Trek - love up to Voyager (diminishingly), do not enjoy anything since then
MCU - love much of it up to Endgame, nothing since then has really grabbed me (except Werewolf by Night)
Star Wars - love the OT, everything since then hasn't reached those levels and leaves me mostly apathetic

Really, though, the biggest 180 for me is entertainment in general. I'd rather watch an episode of Nova or listen to a podcast to semi-learn something than sit down and watch/ listen to something for the purpose of being entertained. I even stopped listening to a weekly news quiz show on NPR (Wait Wait Don't Tell me) around 10 years ago because one segment had folks make up fake news stories to try and stump someone and I didn't want to have the fake stories rattle around in my head.

For the most part I don't want to be entertained by murder or other gruesome things anymore, whereas before it didn't really bother me. There are some exceptions. I've had to take some long flights for work, so I've used that time to get caught up on some movies I'd never otherwise watch, or haven't watched in decades. Rewatched Alien and Aliens a few weeks ago and LOVED them. Felt so refreshing compared to most things I've seen the last 20 years.

I just made an attempt to watch an episode of Captain Planet....

Couldn't do it. Young me must've had some really low standards.

bbb, definitely check out Alien Romulus. And indeed Prey.

I’ll never get bored of recommending those films. They’re superb.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
bbb, definitely check out Alien Romulus. And indeed Prey.

I’ll never get bored of recommending those films. They’re superb.

Saw Prey, awaiting the sequel.

Romulus is worth watching? The last couple Alien films have been such a let down. But I can watch this one this evenin'... Thanks!

Oh 100% it’s worth watching.

I won’t say too much for fear of spoilers, but its comfortably the best entry since Aliens, and I like Alien Ressurection, so it’s not as low a bar as it might sound.


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Family Guy. There’s one for you.

Initially, I hated it. A witless, crude Simpsons rip off.

Then, I grew to kinda like it.

But before too long, it confirmed it’s a one trick pony written by a talentless, unfunny hack with absolutely nothing of interest to say. And hey, why write a 20 minute plot when you can just have Peter fight the Chicken again, and assorted other drivel fillers?

Then? Then I saw its creator in an interview and went even further off it. Cannot stand that man. Far too smug and up himself. But I guess I’d forged a carer ripping off the works of others I might feel pretty smug about it too.

Yeah, Family Guy has its moments but it is almost entirely just garbage and the same recycled jokes. Don't get me wrong, they can be funny but its not worth watching for the sake of it. Just watch meme complations on youtube.

Family Guy is reasonably good in it's middle but the first season or two are still wobbly and then after seven or eight it is just coasting.

I enjoyed the first season of South Park but didn't have much interest past that. It reminds of SNL in that the majority of it isn't that good but when it does hit it hits hard. For every WoW or Trapped in the Closet episode there are twenty banal ones.

 Grey Templar wrote:
Yeah, Family Guy has its moments but it is almost entirely just garbage and the same recycled jokes. Don't get me wrong, they can be funny but its not worth watching for the sake of it. Just watch meme complations on youtube.

Family Guy peaked in its first few seasons before it got cancelled and when the characters weren't flanderized into incredibly hateful people who actively go out of their way to be cruel to one another. Even the gag of Meg being ragged on got so extreme that they gaslit her into accepting being their punching bag because somehow that kept the family together, which is terrible messaging on approaching toxic relationships.

 Ahtman wrote:
Family Guy is reasonably good in it's middle but the first season or two are still wobbly and then after seven or eight it is just coasting.

I enjoyed the first season of South Park but didn't have much interest past that. It reminds of SNL in that the majority of it isn't that good but when it does hit it hits hard. For every WoW or Trapped in the Closet episode there are twenty banal ones.

I’ve never been a big fan of the South Park series, but I’ll stand by the film as being one of the greats.

One of the things I really enjoyed about the relaunched Dr Who in the 2000’s was actually its inconsistency. It meant I went in with a low bar, so when it hit its high points they were a real high because I had no expectations. Turning on the TV expecting some light hearted, monster of the week fluff and getting Blink or Girl in the Fireplace was an amazing experience.

Dr Who I still enjoy, but with a strong preference for the classic era. Especially the later McCoy, where it got so good, right in the face of someone hellbent on scrapping the show.

The original Matrix trilogy. Rewatching it was.. painful. Has not aged well IMHO

First one remains a classic, if eroded by so, so many imitators tarnishing its originality.

The rest are all poop.

I actually had the opposite effect of re-watching all three Matrix movies back to back. They went together better thematically than I recalled.

I had forgotten that Neo had stolen Christian Bale's Armani clothes with his off-the-rack black...

Until I rewatched Equilibrium lately... and saw how to dress to impress.


But, talking about movies that don't hold up... at all, special effects wise, or story wise, is Star Wars: Episode II: Attack Of The Clowns Clones!

Jango Fett subletting assassin jobs, good ole Jedi Master Sifo Dyius (Who?) - and some really bad CGI...


EDIT: Does anyone else's spellchecker on this site keep changing 'of' to 'if?'

Yes. Autocorrect also changes on to in and vice versa.

I have pretty much 180'd on Star Wars for a lot of reasons. No need to get into it here, but I can't be bothered anymore.

I rewatched the Matrix movies in the last year or two to prepare myself for the dodgy fourth one. Probably not a good idea since it didn't help my appreciation of the latter at all. The original trilogy still felt much the same to me. Reasonable good and interesting early on and increasingly silly in story and overindulging in action scenes towards the end.

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
Jango Fett subletting assassin jobs, good ole Jedi Master Sifo Dyius (Who?) - and some really bad CGI...'

What did Sifo Dyas ever do to you?

But yes, one has to feel for those poor Fetts. George Lucas wasn't kind on the alleged poster boys of badass bounty hunting at all, and... I'm told since the Disney takeover something even stranger happened to Boba.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Yes. Autocorrect also changes on to in and vice versa.

I'm glad that decomposing zombie snack in my skull is still more reliable than our future robot overlords. No autocorrect for me, thank you very much.

 Geifer wrote:

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
Jango Fett subletting assassin jobs, good ole Jedi Master Sifo Dyius (Who?) - and some really bad CGI...'

What did Sifo Dyas ever do to you?

But yes, one has to feel for those poor Fetts. George Lucas wasn't kind on the alleged poster boys of badass bounty hunting at all, and... I'm told since the Disney takeover something even stranger happened to Boba.

I still find it hilarious that the flashback scene in Rebels to the launch of the Clone army just used the original AotC footage with a sepia filter and it fit perfectly well with the rest of the animated aesthetic.

While Book of Boba is absolutely awful, its not like the EU wasn't already doing utterly stupid things with Boba's survival. Tales of the Bounty Hunters is kind of terrible in general.

Rewatching the first Matrix film has actually improved my opinion of it. The first 30-45 minutes are excellent. I struggle to think of a film that has a better opening segment. I hate the term masterclass, but the opening scene with Trinity is probably the single best hook I've seen in film.

It's heavily inspired by Ghost in the Shell and GitS has a solid opening scene, but that Matrix scene is on a completely different level.


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 LunarSol wrote:
Tales of the Bounty Hunters is kind of terrible in general.

No.

If you want you can go watch the original "bullet time" movie Trancers with Helen Hunt, or you can wait for the next Matrix film that's coming soon.

I think sequelitis is what ruins a lot of movies that we remember fondly... Yes, some movies deserve sequels to continue a story...

And then there are endless cash grabs where the studio just churns out another piece of hot garbage that soils your memories of the original film and links your Fandom of the original to the new films in the eyes of others.

trexmeyer wrote:
Rewatching the first Matrix film has actually improved my opinion of it. The first 30-45 minutes are excellent. I struggle to think of a film that has a better opening segment.

My go to is always Blade

The_Real_Chris wrote:

trexmeyer wrote:
Rewatching the first Matrix film has actually improved my opinion of it. The first 30-45 minutes are excellent. I struggle to think of a film that has a better opening segment.

My go to is always Blade

I've never watched them.
I like Wesley Snipes in general, but something about those films disgusts me.

Replacement Killers is a perfectly forgettable movie..... but it has one of the greatest opening scenes in cinema for an action movie.

I think other contenders are:

Desperado
Blade
The Matrix


As for Media I have 180'd on, for the negative, I will say Action-adventure novels like those by Clive Cussler. I had read them all, up through Sahara maybe? Now, I just can't even..... In a good way, I think I have 180'd on Rom-Coms. I like them a lot more now-a-days.

Kevin Smith movies.

Enjoyed them in my 20’s, but as my cinematic horizons expand, I think he’s pretty overrated beyond Chasing Amy.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Kevin Smith movies.

Enjoyed them in my 20’s, but as my cinematic horizons expand, I think he’s pretty overrated beyond Chasing Amy.

His oeuvre is definitely a mixed bag.

I think part of it is my extremely limited tolerance for “teeheehee, we said drugs, teeheehee” humour.

This is largely driven by having met people in real life whose entire personality is comprised of “I smoke cannabis”.

Which isn’t to be confused with those who indulge. Just those who become a crashing bore and can’t or won’t talk about anything else.

All of his films have moments and past the initial trilology I think Dogma and Clerks 2 are fairly solid. A lot of it is just that his brand of amateur filmmaking is the way of the world these days. It's not like you need to go to the movies to see a loser rant about why the Empire was actually the good guys or something.