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I need two superheavy tanks to lead Armoured Companies, I think Baneblade design is far more better than Stormhammer. I still hope there will be a Stormlord kit... ( I prefer a smaller tank, sadly Valdor is not a superheavy tank )

I have decided to limit my choices to rulebook armylist, so Dracosan, Valdor and Infernus Malcador could be represent Malcador tankhunter variants.

 Breotan wrote:
Not sure how many Sicarans and Malcadors they'll sell since the big box has been out so long. I wonder if they scaled back production of those to avoid a glut?

Only so many rulebook and warhounds one can sell. Those are pretty much entire discount so better get rid of them or not much of discount.

Makes me wonder if the Predators and Russes will be a different kit to the big box, with new turret options etc.

I guess it’s possible, but I kind of doubt it. At this scale and the rules of the game, there’s not as much space for relatively subtle differences. For instance, Neutron Laser Predator vs Twin Lascannon Predator.

Wouldn’t say no though, even if it’s just variant models.

We’ve already seen previews of two different russ kits, if I remember correctly. The standard and assault variant with plasma turrets, I think.

You might be thinking of the 28mm ones? We’ve had the Shadowsword, Stormblade and Stormsword shown off though, with rules in the next book.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/03/14/heresy-thursday-eradicate-titans-with-new-super-heavy-tanks-for-legions-imperialis/

 General Kroll wrote:
Makes me wonder if the Predators and Russes will be a different kit to the big box, with new turret options etc.

We've already had a leak for the core box russes:



A bunch of them appeared for sale online around January, which may be the result of a shipping container getting lost / damaged / recovered and would explain the delay.

We have also seen box-style artwork like this for plasma Russes in the LI core book, prompting speculation about a second kit in the future. Presumably that would come with more of the turret options used for the 28mm version.

A second Russ kit down the line is almost an inevitability, considering we don't currently have the classic Demolisher turrets available either. If that also includes the Exterminator and other variants, all the better.

Artworks on books are not realiable. Look at the boxes: Velataris troopers with wolkite charger everywhere, with old Forge World armour. It's merely a copy&paste from other Horus Heresy books.

At the same time, I think it's very easy to replace the main cannon on Leman Russ turret with other weapons, we are full of optional weapons.
Now I'm thinking to replace Stormblade plasma gun with volcano mega requiem of Warhound kit to get Stormlords.

The thing with plasma executioner leman russ artwork in the core rulebook is that it looks exactly like a box artwork would - it is very much in the same style as the regular leman russ, which is also in the same book, it turned out later to be actual artwork on the box. So the suspicion that the executioner leman russ might come out in the future based on that isn`t that far fetched.
There are also plenty other examples in rulebook of the artwork that later appeared on the boxes - arvus, rhinos, warhounds, spartan, kratos, land raiders, and possibly others I missed. They use a very distinct style of artwork for the box art, and the executioner is in that style.

Kretualdo wrote:
They use a very distinct style of artwork for the box art, and the executioner is in that style.

Yeah exactly. The style involves (typically) a pair of models displayed front & centre to draw attention, while anything else in the battle is out of focus or otherwise unclear. Scroll back a few months in this thread and you'll see posts predicting termites & plastic arvus announcements from seeing obvious examples of this art style.

There's still several others yet to materialise, and while we some of them may well just be concept or cancelled ideas, I'll bet we do see several more:

A second (or even third as we got both plasma and autocannon russ art) box is very likely and while it won't be in the same box as the current options as that box was already leaked a while ago, it would still make sense if they want to release all options at the same time in the same way both Warhound options where released at the same time.
That would explain why the russes haven't appeared yet.
But I wonder if this would also mean that we get another Predator version too even thought they don't have any additional art?

If more Predator variants are coming, I'd wager we will see their box art somewhere in the next DLC book

 xttz wrote:

Kretualdo wrote:
They use a very distinct style of artwork for the box art, and the executioner is in that style.

Yeah exactly. The style involves (typically) a pair of models displayed front & centre to draw attention, while anything else in the battle is out of focus or otherwise unclear. Scroll back a few months in this thread and you'll see posts predicting termites & plastic arvus announcements from seeing obvious examples of this art style.

There's still several others yet to materialise, and while we some of them may well just be concept or cancelled ideas, I'll bet we do see several more:

Spoiler:

The Sabre Tanks are even seen in silhouette as part of the formation options.

 General Kroll wrote:
The Sabre Tanks are even seen in silhouette as part of the formation options.

There's several silhouette's that hint at future units. Arquitor's for one but even more surprising, in the Great Slaughter card deck, there's a silhouette for a destroyer tank hunter for SA. So we may see those and thunderer siege tanks

 zedmeister wrote:

 General Kroll wrote:
The Sabre Tanks are even seen in silhouette as part of the formation options.

There's several silhouette's that hint at future units. Arquitor's for one but even more surprising, in the Great Slaughter card deck, there's a silhouette for a destroyer tank hunter for SA. So we may see those and thunderer siege tanks

The skies the limit really with the amount of variety and number of both Guard and Marine tanks that have been made over the years by Gw/Fw.

Kretualdo wrote:
The thing with plasma executioner leman russ artwork in the core rulebook is that it looks exactly like a box artwork would - it is very much in the same style as the regular leman russ, which is also in the same book, it turned out later to be actual artwork on the box. So the suspicion that the executioner leman russ might come out in the future based on that isn`t that far fetched.
There are also plenty other examples in rulebook of the artwork that later appeared on the boxes - arvus, rhinos, warhounds, spartan, kratos, land raiders, and possibly others I missed. They use a very distinct style of artwork for the box art, and the executioner is in that style.

Thanks for the explanation.
So three new Leman Russ boxes will come in the future:
1) Strike with battlecannon/Vanquisher cannon
2) Demolisher/Executioner
3) Exterminator/...? Maybe Conqueror? (=these count as light tanks?)

Will probably be going for a box of Dracosans out of this release. Don't much care for the Stormhammers, a shame they're not releasing the Stormblades sooner!

 1984Phantom wrote:

Kretualdo wrote:
The thing with plasma executioner leman russ artwork in the core rulebook is that it looks exactly like a box artwork would - it is very much in the same style as the regular leman russ, which is also in the same book, it turned out later to be actual artwork on the box. So the suspicion that the executioner leman russ might come out in the future based on that isn`t that far fetched.
There are also plenty other examples in rulebook of the artwork that later appeared on the boxes - arvus, rhinos, warhounds, spartan, kratos, land raiders, and possibly others I missed. They use a very distinct style of artwork for the box art, and the executioner is in that style.

Thanks for the explanation.
So three new Leman Russ boxes will come in the future:
1) Strike with battlecannon/Vanquisher cannon
2) Demolisher/Executioner
3) Exterminator/...? Maybe Conqueror? (=these count as light tanks?)

Since there was no reveal yet, we can`t be sure they are coming. But based on previous experiences, and the fact that all 3 you listed (battlecannon, executioner, exterminator) appear as box style artwork in rulebook, and the basic battlecannon variant was already leaked/sold (probably illegaly) on ebay with the exact artwork on the box from the book, it is reasonable to assume that the other two might be coming in the future.

I don`t expect any main leman russ variant count as light tank, people have speculated that maybe carnodon will be a light tank, but we have no confirmation yet.

Quick general HH question - why does the upper turret on the Stormhammer not have a dual-barrel weapon?

 Dysartes wrote:
Quick general HH question - why does the upper turret on the Stormhammer not have a dual-barrel weapon?

It’s supposed to be a bigger, heavier cannon where the hull turret is “just” two regular battle cannon straight off a Leman Russ.

Interesting - I remember the original Stormhammer back in t'day having two barrels in both turrets, y'see.

Yeah, it’s also swapped four TL heavy bolters in turrets for the “bay window” of six sponson guns. I think what actually happened was that the Forge World team tried to replicate the original armament in 40K scale and discovered it looked OTT even for 40K so they tweaked it a bit.

Nothing OTT about the Stormhammer ever


It has always needed more guns!

The original Stormhammer - that time when the Imperium's vehicle designers took advice from Orks.

Old School Epic Stormhammer is still my favorite Super Heavy of all time - it was a beast in close combat too, but it SM/TL!

Eumerin wrote:
The original Stormhammer - that time when the Imperium's vehicle designers took advice from Orks.

Heck a good many old school epic/tl ork vehicles were quite well built. The old Battle Waggon was very much a traditional tank with a deathroller on the front and didn't look ramshackle at all. If anything Orks have become cruder designers over the years

Loved that old Storm hammer! It had thicker armour on the sides as well IIRC so you could get stuck right in with that 1+ armour save and not worry too much about being flanked.

The Storm blade came along last of all didn't it, I can't ever remember seeing that one being used in anger on the tabletop.

It’s a pity the “modern” one doesn’t have the missile rack anymore.

 Mr_Rose wrote:
It’s a pity the “modern” one doesn’t have the missile rack anymore.

Tempting to take the missile rack off a manticore and mount it on the side of a modern storm blade.