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2014/12/16 14:54:04
Subject: New Imperial Assault minis based Star Wars board game from FFG announced!
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Martial Arts SAS
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If you are going to substitute all of the counters you'd need in a full campaign for their model equivalents, you would need to buy all of the available add-ons.. General Weiss, the Saboteuers, Royal Guard Champion, IG88, Han, Chewie and the Rebel Troopers (and that's assuming you only want to have three allied Troopers show up to help you - I haven't read the rules yet, so I don't know if you could have six and thus would need two Rebel Trooper packs etc). So you are looking at £60+
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2014/12/16 15:04:12
Subject: New Imperial Assault minis based Star Wars board game from FFG announced!
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I've got to admit - this one appeals to me way more than X-Wing does...
...this could be trouble for the gaming budget!
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2014/12/16 15:06:29
Subject: New Imperial Assault minis based Star Wars board game from FFG announced!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Well we've got another winkle now lots of price increases on Imerial Assault are being reported (eg coolstuff inc and meeple mart) The most consistent report is that Hasbro has the exclusive licence for star wars board games and have successfully challenged FFGs description of this as a 'miniatures game' (when it clearly is a board game), and thus are now having to pay unexpected extra royalties to Hasbro (I've also seen reports that it could be down to FFG now being unable to distribute this directly but that seems less believable) so bottom line is this is probably going to be more expensive in the future (about 10% or so based on the price rises), so factor that into whether you want to start playing and if you do want to snap up the early store stock before price rises hit Edit: Sources FFG forum/beast of war/BGG
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2014/12/16 15:15:43
Subject: Re:New Imperial Assault minis based Star Wars board game from FFG announced!
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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So here's a question/thought...
How would they look next to stuff from this line of toys: https://www.google.com/search?q=star+wars+command&biw=1440&bih=806&tbm=isch&source=lnms&sa=X&ei=qkuQVL3tBIeBygTmmoLgCg&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ
I'm sure the FFG stuff is higher quality, but maybe someone is looking for filler troops or bigger TT battles. My kids have a ton of those and the toys aren't terrible, and they're really cheap in price.
Just tossing around ideas here.
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Something is happening on the 24th, we sent you a poster.
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2014/12/16 15:19:37
Subject: New Imperial Assault minis based Star Wars board game from FFG announced!
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Plastictrees
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The Assault stuff would be tiny next to those. The Command minis are 'green army man' sized.
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2014/12/16 15:20:30
Subject: New Imperial Assault minis based Star Wars board game from FFG announced!
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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Siygess wrote:
If you are going to substitute all of the counters you'd need in a full campaign for their model equivalents, you would need to buy all of the available add-ons.. General Weiss, the Saboteuers, Royal Guard Champion, IG88, Han, Chewie and the Rebel Troopers (and that's assuming you only want to have three allied Troopers show up to help you - I haven't read the rules yet, so I don't know if you could have six and thus would need two Rebel Trooper packs etc). So you are looking at £60+
Damn. If it was just a couple of boosters I could almost have stomached it, but now I'm back to passing in it.
You know, I've been looking for those in local toyshops for ages but haven't seen them, which is a shame as I'd like a few just to paint and display. They'd be bigger that the IA minis by quite a bit, but on their own they look alright.
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2014/12/16 15:25:36
Subject: New Imperial Assault minis based Star Wars board game from FFG announced!
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Trustworthy Shas'vre
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FFG has all the rights for SW, so no problem there, it just depends on which part they are focussing and there is a lot of stuff. IA is focused on Ep. 4-6 right now.
The game is worth getting. The game is quite streamlined and micro-management is not your main-job when playing the game.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Hasbro can´t ask for extra royalties since Dinsey owns the rights and the contract with Disney includes miniature games and board games. Also contracts can only be changed when they run out, which is not the case right now.
I doubt the source for this info ever saw the contract even from a distance.
Regarding price increases: Everything produced in China will get more expensive faster than in the past.
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2014/12/16 15:32:59
Subject: New Imperial Assault minis based Star Wars board game from FFG announced!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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you could be right, I've certainly no actual evidence (and none of the retailers have leaked the email they got yet)
but something has caused FFG to suddenly and unexpectedly raise their prices so something is going on
(and I don't believe its is a straight cash grab just because they game has proved popular, I don't believe FFG would do that, so something has caused them a significant cost increase which they are passing on)
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2014/12/16 15:36:41
Subject: New Imperial Assault minis based Star Wars board game from FFG announced!
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What kind of price increases are we talking about here?
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2014/12/16 15:37:02
Subject: Re:New Imperial Assault minis based Star Wars board game from FFG announced!
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Martial Arts SAS
United Kingdom
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Sorry for the photo quality (am super bad at photography and this one was in a rush) but here's a quick scale comparison.
If you want a little more detail or you need help identifying the other models in the shot, you can click here for more.
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2014/12/16 15:40:59
Subject: New Imperial Assault minis based Star Wars board game from FFG announced!
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Hellacious Havoc
As far to the east you can get without being in Canada.
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I pre-ordered mine from Coolstuff at $69.00, now the price is $75.00.
The odd part is that the FFG retail price is the same at $100.00.
Retailers might not be getting as deep a discount now as before. Perhaps the merger with Asmodee group has something to do with it?
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2014/12/16 15:44:10
Subject: New Imperial Assault minis based Star Wars board game from FFG announced!
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Paradigm wrote:
You know, I've been looking for those in local toyshops for ages but haven't seen them, which is a shame as I'd like a few just to paint and display. They'd be bigger that the IA minis by quite a bit, but on their own they look alright.
Try ASDA, my local had them.
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If you can keep your head, while all about you are losing their's, then you have probably completely misunderstood the situation!
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2014/12/16 16:05:30
Subject: New Imperial Assault minis based Star Wars board game from FFG announced!
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Brutal Black Orc
The Empire State
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OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:Well we've got another winkle now
lots of price increases on Imerial Assault are being reported (eg coolstuff inc and meeple mart)
The most consistent report is that Hasbro has the exclusive licence for star wars board games and have successfully challenged FFGs description of this as a 'miniatures game' (when it clearly is a board game), and thus are now having to pay unexpected extra royalties to Hasbro
(I've also seen reports that it could be down to FFG now being unable to distribute this directly but that seems less believable)
so bottom line is this is probably going to be more expensive in the future (about 10% or so based on the price rises), so factor that into whether you want to start playing
and if you do want to snap up the early store stock before price rises hit
Edit: Sources FFG forum/beast of war/BGG
If this is true, someone needs to get pimp slapped. Automatically Appended Next Post: Siygess wrote: Piston Honda wrote:Is this game worth getting? does the game flow nicely or is their a lot of upkeep and token counting through the game?
And a question out of curiosity, for the skirmish game why didn't they include a rectangular map for skirmish play like with star wars minis?
I'm guessing there is no chance of getting a Darth Maul in the near or distant future? when FFG first released X-wing they mentioned something about not having the rights to produce material from the prequels (no Naboo fighter)
Interesting. That last point is consistent with the content they have put out so far (e.g. no prequel content in the RPG or the Star Wars LCG either, to my knowledge) but if it is true, it would also be a real shame.
I couldn't get exact details out of the guy (he works for FFG) but it sounded one of 2 possible situations
A.) FFG has to pay separate royalties for Ep. I, II, III material.
B.) FFG could NOT get permission to make materical from Ep. I, II, and III.
If it is B that just sucks as I love Darth Maul and the Naboo fighter looks like a Italian sports car... in spppppaaaaace!
If A is true I can see them wanting to avoid that, at least for the time being as IV, V and VI are far more popular and loved by fans and has the more iconic ships and would wait till other options are exhausted.
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2014/12/16 16:15:06
Subject: Re:New Imperial Assault minis based Star Wars board game from FFG announced!
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Siygess wrote:
Around 30mm, with slightly more heroic proportions than Infinity. Not GW heroic, but the hands and guns are noticeably bigger when compared with the WotC minis. But they will look fine mixed in with your other 28-30mm minis.
With regards to the price of the add-ons, BoardGameExtras in the UK have the best price (that I've found). It's still more than most people would want to pay after shelling out ~£70 on the base set, I think, but hey.. savings are savings.
Thank you kindly. Hello AT- ST- Sentinel Proxy
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2014/12/16 16:31:48
Subject: Re:New Imperial Assault minis based Star Wars board game from FFG announced!
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Martial Arts SAS
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Weeeeeell maybe, maybe not. My 40K sentinel barely comes up to the top of the AT- ST's legs. So it's a good 40% taller and the cockpit is considerably more bulky than that of the sentinel. You could argue that it's probably a true scale sentinel
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2014/12/16 17:40:32
Subject: Re:New Imperial Assault minis based Star Wars board game from FFG announced!
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Executing Exarch
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Paradigm wrote:Fair enough. I suppose coming at it as a Wargamer here colours my perspective a little, as I don't see cardboard as comparable to a mini,
A *miniatures* wargamer might have those concerns.
An old grognard like myself doesn't see what all the fuss is about. After all, I grew up pushing small cardboard counters around a hex map. I'm not averse to doing it again. For something like this, I'd prefer to have the figures. But having them sold separately is not a deal breaker.
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2014/12/16 18:18:15
Subject: New Imperial Assault minis based Star Wars board game from FFG announced!
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Infiltrating Prowler
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Now I have to find the box with the old WEG Star Wars miniatures and the hero clix stuff I have somewhere....
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2014/12/17 00:56:19
Subject: New Imperial Assault minis based Star Wars board game from FFG announced!
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Damn. The connectors aren't the same as the DOOM tiles. These ones aren't compatible with them.
That's a shame.
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2014/12/17 01:37:58
Subject: New Imperial Assault minis based Star Wars board game from FFG announced!
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Brutal Black Orc
The Empire State
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H.B.M.C. wrote:Damn. The connectors aren't the same as the DOOM tiles. These ones aren't compatible with them.
That's a shame.
You won't make them fit with that attitude!
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2014/12/17 10:16:50
Subject: Re:New Imperial Assault minis based Star Wars board game from FFG announced!
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Jealous that Horus is Warmaster
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For UK people;
I just found that it's on sale at amazon uk for £58, when the rrp is £80, and best discount I've seen elsewhere was down to about £70.
Plus there's an Xmas promotion where if you spend over £40 at Amazon and pay with MasterCard you get another fiver off. Plus it was a prime seller so got free postage as well.
So basically I just got a 80 quid box for 53 delivered! Bargain!
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2014/12/17 10:34:41
Subject: Re:New Imperial Assault minis based Star Wars board game from FFG announced!
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yeah.
That's good. Link?
Has the seller got the expansions up for pre-order?
Panic...
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2014/12/17 10:36:55
Subject: New Imperial Assault minis based Star Wars board game from FFG announced!
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Martial Arts SAS
United Kingdom
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Holy crap, I checked Amazon and that reminded me to look at the Book Depository.. and the add-on packs are super cheap right now! Most of them are around £5.50!
If you were put off by the price of the add-ons now is the time to grab them!
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2014/12/17 10:39:07
Subject: Re:New Imperial Assault minis based Star Wars board game from FFG announced!
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Jealous that Horus is Warmaster
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/Star-Wars-Imperial-Assault-Board/dp/1616619902/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1418812563&sr=8-1&keywords=imperial+assault
Looks like its actually just Amazon themselves seeing it at that price - I just searched for it and it was the first result that came up - didn't look into the expansions tho - I can't really justify the fifty quid I've spent on it already to be fair!
MasterCard promo details:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/feature.html?docId=1000842673
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2014/12/17 10:58:22
Subject: New Imperial Assault minis based Star Wars board game from FFG announced!
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Trustworthy Shas'vre
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Looks more to me like some stores moved their prizes into the more realistic range.
>>Thank you kindly. Hello AT-ST- Sentinel Proxy <<
Well, you are missing out on quite some markers and cards this way.
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2014/12/17 13:56:58
Subject: New Imperial Assault minis based Star Wars board game from FFG announced!
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Zealous Knight
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I think he's looking to use the AT- ST in 40k
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2014/12/17 14:00:21
Subject: New Imperial Assault minis based Star Wars board game from FFG announced!
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Thanks for the link Siygess, that's the cheapest I've seen those by some way, especially with free delivery
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2014/12/17 14:25:19
Subject: New Imperial Assault minis based Star Wars board game from FFG announced!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Starter set for x-wing is £18 with free delivery as well. Not sure why amazon are selling their FF SW stuff so cheap.
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2014/12/17 14:39:19
Subject: New Imperial Assault minis based Star Wars board game from FFG announced!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Amazon is showing £66.57 for me, the £58 one is charging over £5 for delivery :(
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2014/12/17 14:42:22
Subject: New Imperial Assault minis based Star Wars board game from FFG announced!
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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tyrannosaurus wrote:Amazon is showing £66.57 for me, the £58 one is charging over £5 for delivery :(
It's gone up since this morning, probably to due to getting more views thanks to this thread. Amazon are tricky like that; you put something in you baseket, come back an hour later and it'll have gone up.
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2014/12/18 02:10:21
Subject: New Imperial Assault minis based Star Wars board game from FFG announced!
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Some of the discounts I'm seeing are bringing this game back into affordability. The Weiss Walker looks like the best deal going on. How come there are no Stormtrooper expansion packs?
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