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Martial Arts SAS




United Kingdom

 Paradigm wrote:
Another unboxing here, showing off the Droids, Nexu and Trandoshans that I didn't see on last one.
http://gmortschaotica.blogspot.co.uk/2014/12/star-wars-imperial-assault-guest.html


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Oh, and can someone in the know post a list of the expansions you'd need to play the box missions with all the required minis?


If you are going to substitute all of the counters you'd need in a full campaign for their model equivalents, you would need to buy all of the available add-ons.. General Weiss, the Saboteuers, Royal Guard Champion, IG88, Han, Chewie and the Rebel Troopers (and that's assuming you only want to have three allied Troopers show up to help you - I haven't read the rules yet, so I don't know if you could have six and thus would need two Rebel Trooper packs etc). So you are looking at £60+

   
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I've got to admit - this one appeals to me way more than X-Wing does...

...this could be trouble for the gaming budget!

   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut




UK

Well we've got another winkle now

lots of price increases on Imerial Assault are being reported (eg coolstuff inc and meeple mart)

The most consistent report is that Hasbro has the exclusive licence for star wars board games and have successfully challenged FFGs description of this as a 'miniatures game' (when it clearly is a board game), and thus are now having to pay unexpected extra royalties to Hasbro

(I've also seen reports that it could be down to FFG now being unable to distribute this directly but that seems less believable)

so bottom line is this is probably going to be more expensive in the future (about 10% or so based on the price rises), so factor that into whether you want to start playing

and if you do want to snap up the early store stock before price rises hit

Edit: Sources FFG forum/beast of war/BGG

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Made in us
Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine





York, NE

So here's a question/thought...

How would they look next to stuff from this line of toys: https://www.google.com/search?q=star+wars+command&biw=1440&bih=806&tbm=isch&source=lnms&sa=X&ei=qkuQVL3tBIeBygTmmoLgCg&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ

I'm sure the FFG stuff is higher quality, but maybe someone is looking for filler troops or bigger TT battles. My kids have a ton of those and the toys aren't terrible, and they're really cheap in price.

Just tossing around ideas here.



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Made in ca
Plastictrees





Calgary, Alberta, Canada

The Assault stuff would be tiny next to those. The Command minis are 'green army man' sized.
   
Made in gb
Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?





UK

Siygess wrote:
 Paradigm wrote:
Another unboxing here, showing off the Droids, Nexu and Trandoshans that I didn't see on last one.
http://gmortschaotica.blogspot.co.uk/2014/12/star-wars-imperial-assault-guest.html


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Oh, and can someone in the know post a list of the expansions you'd need to play the box missions with all the required minis?


If you are going to substitute all of the counters you'd need in a full campaign for their model equivalents, you would need to buy all of the available add-ons.. General Weiss, the Saboteuers, Royal Guard Champion, IG88, Han, Chewie and the Rebel Troopers (and that's assuming you only want to have three allied Troopers show up to help you - I haven't read the rules yet, so I don't know if you could have six and thus would need two Rebel Trooper packs etc). So you are looking at £60+


Damn. If it was just a couple of boosters I could almost have stomached it, but now I'm back to passing in it.

TalonZahn wrote:So here's a question/thought...

How would they look next to stuff from this line of toys: https://www.google.com/search?q=star+wars+command&biw=1440&bih=806&tbm=isch&source=lnms&sa=X&ei=qkuQVL3tBIeBygTmmoLgCg&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ

I'm sure the FFG stuff is higher quality, but maybe someone is looking for filler troops or bigger TT battles. My kids have a ton of those and the toys aren't terrible, and they're really cheap in price.

Just tossing around ideas here.


You know, I've been looking for those in local toyshops for ages but haven't seen them, which is a shame as I'd like a few just to paint and display. They'd be bigger that the IA minis by quite a bit, but on their own they look alright.

 
   
Made in de
Trustworthy Shas'vre





Augsburg/Germany

FFG has all the rights for SW, so no problem there, it just depends on which part they are focussing and there is a lot of stuff. IA is focused on Ep. 4-6 right now.

The game is worth getting. The game is quite streamlined and micro-management is not your main-job when playing the game.




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Hasbro can´t ask for extra royalties since Dinsey owns the rights and the contract with Disney includes miniature games and board games. Also contracts can only be changed when they run out, which is not the case right now.

I doubt the source for this info ever saw the contract even from a distance.

Regarding price increases: Everything produced in China will get more expensive faster than in the past.

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André Winter
L'Art Noir - Game Design and Translation Studio 
   
Made in gb
Decrepit Dakkanaut




UK

you could be right, I've certainly no actual evidence (and none of the retailers have leaked the email they got yet)

but something has caused FFG to suddenly and unexpectedly raise their prices so something is going on

(and I don't believe its is a straight cash grab just because they game has proved popular, I don't believe FFG would do that, so something has caused them a significant cost increase which they are passing on)

 
   
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What kind of price increases are we talking about here?

   
Made in gb
Martial Arts SAS




United Kingdom

Sorry for the photo quality (am super bad at photography and this one was in a rush) but here's a quick scale comparison.



If you want a little more detail or you need help identifying the other models in the shot, you can click here for more.

   
Made in us
Hellacious Havoc




As far to the east you can get without being in Canada.

 Alpharius wrote:
What kind of price increases are we talking about here?


I pre-ordered mine from Coolstuff at $69.00, now the price is $75.00.

The odd part is that the FFG retail price is the same at $100.00.

Retailers might not be getting as deep a discount now as before. Perhaps the merger with Asmodee group has something to do with it?
   
Made in gb
Ultramarine Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control




Bristol, UK

 Paradigm wrote:


TalonZahn wrote:So here's a question/thought...

How would they look next to stuff from this line of toys: https://www.google.com/search?q=star+wars+command&biw=1440&bih=806&tbm=isch&source=lnms&sa=X&ei=qkuQVL3tBIeBygTmmoLgCg&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ

I'm sure the FFG stuff is higher quality, but maybe someone is looking for filler troops or bigger TT battles. My kids have a ton of those and the toys aren't terrible, and they're really cheap in price.

Just tossing around ideas here.


You know, I've been looking for those in local toyshops for ages but haven't seen them, which is a shame as I'd like a few just to paint and display. They'd be bigger that the IA minis by quite a bit, but on their own they look alright.


Try ASDA, my local had them.

If you can keep your head, while all about you are losing their's, then you have probably completely misunderstood the situation!

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Brutal Black Orc




The Empire State

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Well we've got another winkle now

lots of price increases on Imerial Assault are being reported (eg coolstuff inc and meeple mart)

The most consistent report is that Hasbro has the exclusive licence for star wars board games and have successfully challenged FFGs description of this as a 'miniatures game' (when it clearly is a board game), and thus are now having to pay unexpected extra royalties to Hasbro

(I've also seen reports that it could be down to FFG now being unable to distribute this directly but that seems less believable)

so bottom line is this is probably going to be more expensive in the future (about 10% or so based on the price rises), so factor that into whether you want to start playing

and if you do want to snap up the early store stock before price rises hit

Edit: Sources FFG forum/beast of war/BGG


If this is true, someone needs to get pimp slapped.


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 Siygess wrote:
 Piston Honda wrote:
Is this game worth getting? does the game flow nicely or is their a lot of upkeep and token counting through the game?

And a question out of curiosity, for the skirmish game why didn't they include a rectangular map for skirmish play like with star wars minis?

I'm guessing there is no chance of getting a Darth Maul in the near or distant future? when FFG first released X-wing they mentioned something about not having the rights to produce material from the prequels (no Naboo fighter)


Interesting. That last point is consistent with the content they have put out so far (e.g. no prequel content in the RPG or the Star Wars LCG either, to my knowledge) but if it is true, it would also be a real shame.


I couldn't get exact details out of the guy (he works for FFG) but it sounded one of 2 possible situations

A.) FFG has to pay separate royalties for Ep. I, II, III material.

B.) FFG could NOT get permission to make materical from Ep. I, II, and III.

If it is B that just sucks as I love Darth Maul and the Naboo fighter looks like a Italian sports car... in spppppaaaaace!

If A is true I can see them wanting to avoid that, at least for the time being as IV, V and VI are far more popular and loved by fans and has the more iconic ships and would wait till other options are exhausted.

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 Siygess wrote:
 Commissar-Danno wrote:
So what scale are the mini's at?


Around 30mm, with slightly more heroic proportions than Infinity. Not GW heroic, but the hands and guns are noticeably bigger when compared with the WotC minis. But they will look fine mixed in with your other 28-30mm minis.

With regards to the price of the add-ons, BoardGameExtras in the UK have the best price (that I've found). It's still more than most people would want to pay after shelling out ~£70 on the base set, I think, but hey.. savings are savings.


Thank you kindly. Hello AT-ST- Sentinel Proxy
   
Made in gb
Martial Arts SAS




United Kingdom

 Commissar-Danno wrote:
Thank you kindly. Hello AT-ST- Sentinel Proxy


Weeeeeell maybe, maybe not. My 40K sentinel barely comes up to the top of the AT-ST's legs. So it's a good 40% taller and the cockpit is considerably more bulky than that of the sentinel. You could argue that it's probably a true scale sentinel

   
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 Paradigm wrote:
Fair enough. I suppose coming at it as a Wargamer here colours my perspective a little, as I don't see cardboard as comparable to a mini,


A *miniatures* wargamer might have those concerns.

An old grognard like myself doesn't see what all the fuss is about. After all, I grew up pushing small cardboard counters around a hex map. I'm not averse to doing it again. For something like this, I'd prefer to have the figures. But having them sold separately is not a deal breaker.
   
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Infiltrating Prowler





Portland, OR

Now I have to find the box with the old WEG Star Wars miniatures and the hero clix stuff I have somewhere....
   
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests






Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.

Damn. The connectors aren't the same as the DOOM tiles. These ones aren't compatible with them.

That's a shame.

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Brutal Black Orc




The Empire State

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Damn. The connectors aren't the same as the DOOM tiles. These ones aren't compatible with them.

That's a shame.


You won't make them fit with that attitude!

Spoiler:

 
   
Made in gb
Jealous that Horus is Warmaster






For UK people;
I just found that it's on sale at amazon uk for £58, when the rrp is £80, and best discount I've seen elsewhere was down to about £70.
Plus there's an Xmas promotion where if you spend over £40 at Amazon and pay with MasterCard you get another fiver off. Plus it was a prime seller so got free postage as well.

So basically I just got a 80 quid box for 53 delivered! Bargain!

 
   
Made in gb
Longtime Dakkanaut






London UK

yeah.
That's good. Link?

Has the seller got the expansions up for pre-order?

Panic...

   
Made in gb
Martial Arts SAS




United Kingdom

Holy crap, I checked Amazon and that reminded me to look at the Book Depository.. and the add-on packs are super cheap right now! Most of them are around £5.50!

If you were put off by the price of the add-ons now is the time to grab them!

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Made in gb
Jealous that Horus is Warmaster






http://www.amazon.co.uk/Star-Wars-Imperial-Assault-Board/dp/1616619902/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1418812563&sr=8-1&keywords=imperial+assault
Looks like its actually just Amazon themselves seeing it at that price - I just searched for it and it was the first result that came up - didn't look into the expansions tho - I can't really justify the fifty quid I've spent on it already to be fair!


MasterCard promo details:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/feature.html?docId=1000842673

 
   
Made in de
Trustworthy Shas'vre





Augsburg/Germany

Looks more to me like some stores moved their prizes into the more realistic range.

>>Thank you kindly. Hello AT-ST- Sentinel Proxy <<

Well, you are missing out on quite some markers and cards this way.

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André Winter
L'Art Noir - Game Design and Translation Studio 
   
Made in nl
Zealous Knight







I think he's looking to use the AT-ST in 40k
   
Made in gb
Fresh-Faced New User




Hertfordshire, UK

 Siygess wrote:
Holy crap, I checked Amazon and that reminded me to look at the Book Depository.. and the add-on packs are super cheap right now! Most of them are around £5.50!

If you were put off by the price of the add-ons now is the time to grab them!


Thanks for the link Siygess, that's the cheapest I've seen those by some way, especially with free delivery
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut





Starter set for x-wing is £18 with free delivery as well. Not sure why amazon are selling their FF SW stuff so cheap.
   
Made in gb
Longtime Dakkanaut






St. Albans

Amazon is showing £66.57 for me, the £58 one is charging over £5 for delivery :(

 
   
Made in gb
Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?





UK

 tyrannosaurus wrote:
Amazon is showing £66.57 for me, the £58 one is charging over £5 for delivery :(


It's gone up since this morning, probably to due to getting more views thanks to this thread. Amazon are tricky like that; you put something in you baseket, come back an hour later and it'll have gone up.
   
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Legendary Master of the Chapter





SoCal

Some of the discounts I'm seeing are bringing this game back into affordability. The Weiss Walker looks like the best deal going on. How come there are no Stormtrooper expansion packs?

   
 
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