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There hasn't been any discussion about Dark Eldar in quite some time - the locked threads in the stickied dark eldar thread means that discussion on those threads isn't allowed, so there's effectively no place to talk about Dark Eldar.

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I've started playing Dark Eldar. In the last couple of months, I've amassed a pretty decent sized army, and have taken an 1850 list to a couple of tournaments and performed well. I had a couple of orders in for things like wyches and warp-beasts to fill out things that I was missing, and some interesting things have happened.

1. I stopped into a store that I hadn't been to before to talk to the owner about 40k events, and when the discussion turned to Dark Eldar, he very strongly encouraged me not to buy any more dark eldar models because his trade rep from GW had told him that a new codex and models were incoming. I blew him off because the same rumor has been circulating for 10 years.

2. I just called my FLGS to check on my order for two boxes of wyches, and he told me that they've been unable to get the boxes because all the regular channels (warstore, alliance, etc) are no longer stocking them because of new models and a new Eldar / Dark Eldar codex coming out. He told me that he called GW to get them via direct, and that the rep encouraged him to hold off because new stuff was about to come out.

Ultimately, I'm confused.

Well they could finally be on the way, certainly, retracting models from sale is a good sign but who knows!

I'll believe it when I see it. Although this does sound similar to the current situation with Inquisition models. Could that mean going by the Imp/Non-imp alternating that GW nest 3 Codex releases are:

1. Blood Angels (Imperial) [CONFIRMED]
2. Dark Eldar (Non-Imperial)
3. Inquisition (Imperial)?

OR am I just taking the crazy pills again?

I don't think it's healthy to spend too long trying to guess what they're up to, it's only going to lead to madness!

I'd say interesting but then again, wait and see I guess.

A few points:

Dark Eldar and Eldar are NOT in the same codex.
The DE models are almost, if not fully complete.
The whole range is being redone.
All models have been done by or under the supervison of Jes.
A handful of members of the forum have seen/held some of the new models and seen pics, but NOT any rules or codex details.
As of early january when I last spoke to my studio source it was expected that DE have been bumped for the greater good, then if the regular cycle holds it will be Marines or CSM, then the DE, so end 2010 or start 2011.... However it needs to be remembered that more than 6 months out from release, even the studio don't know the order for 100% sure.

BA, DE, and then Inq. certainly sound too good to be true but we're seeing miracles happening before our very eyes this coming year. New plastic kanz and deff dreads for one thing.

I certainly could not complain about new DE and Inq. I don't care much for space vamps but they certainly need a non-WD style update. I just feel sorry for the poor necron players who, just until a few months ago, were also expecting a 2010 codex.

If all this is true I can see myself spending more money on 40k this year than ever before, as I will be attempting to build up three new armies with dread mob orks, inq., and DE. I'd better start putting in some overtime.

I heard the rumor that eldar/DE are going to be in the same dex myself.... but I don't believe that for a second.

Why on Earth would they be in the same book, that doesn't make any kind of sense. Besides which, GW seems to want more books not less.

The Eldar x DE codex is a rumour that predates battle for Macragge and was something that the Studio was thinking about, Gav Thorpe back then strongly opposed it as he said it would result in a "Eldar with white hats and Eldar with dark hats" scenario. The only thing he did like about it was the inclusion of the neutrals a.k.a. the Harlequins.

Speaking for 2010, if these kind of rumors are true for Inquisition they are not true for DE or vice versa.

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Edited by Waaagh_Gonads

BrookM wrote:The Eldar x DE codex is a rumour that predates battle for Macragge and was something that the Studio was thinking about, Gav Thorpe back then strongly opposed it as he said it would result in a "Eldar with white hats and Eldar with dark hats" scenario. The only thing he did like about it was the inclusion of the neutrals a.k.a. the Harlequins.

Ah, I see, Gav Thorpe had the right idea then.

Dashofpepper wrote:Hey folks!
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*mods, read this before locking*

There hasn't been any discussion about Dark Eldar in quite some time - the locked threads in the stickied dark eldar thread means that discussion on those threads isn't allowed, so there's effectively no place to talk about Dark Eldar.

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I've started playing Dark Eldar. In the last couple of months, I've amassed a pretty decent sized army, and have taken an 1850 list to a couple of tournaments and performed well. I had a couple of orders in for things like wyches and warp-beasts to fill out things that I was missing, and some interesting things have happened.

1. I stopped into a store that I hadn't been to before to talk to the owner about 40k events, and when the discussion turned to Dark Eldar, he very strongly encouraged me not to buy any more dark eldar models because his trade rep from GW had told him that a new codex and models were incoming. I blew him off because the same rumor has been circulating for 10 years.

2. I just called my FLGS to check on my order for two boxes of wyches, and he told me that they've been unable to get the boxes because all the regular channels (warstore, alliance, etc) are no longer stocking them because of new models and a new Eldar / Dark Eldar codex coming out. He told me that he called GW to get them via direct, and that the rep encouraged him to hold off because new stuff was about to come out.

Ultimately, I'm confused.

Well, my FLGS owner (who has a very good relationship with several higher ups at GW), basically says that it is confirmed for late 2010 or 2011. He also says that about the necron codex. He was talking about the blood angels before anyone else was, and he's always been right. So, while I take everything he says with a small grain of salt, I do trust what he says. I think there's some truth to it, but I'm still not sure about the timeline he's given me. I wanted to post this to slightly bolster what you've been saying, but to also say that I'm a bit skeptical still.

Has anyone considered the possibility that both Dark Eldar and the Inquisition are being dropped?
GW are trying to improve profits for the shareholders any way they can. By dropping two armies with a smaller following and not having to produce any more models they can then concentrate on the bigger sellers. People who collect both those armies would prob end up buying more mainstream ones rather than just give up on the game and therefore bring in more money without new models.
Before anyone says don't be daft remember its happened before...
Mick

Don't be daft.

Nah, DE and Inquisition won't be dropped, squatted.

Edited by Waaagh_Gonads for poor choice of language on a family friendly wargaming forum

Ultimately we don't know anything for certain, but the rumours are that the entire range has been worked over, so it would NOT be in their best interests to drop the entire line (if indeed that's true). Lets just hope for the best

We can only see when things come to fruition :O

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Mick A wrote:Has anyone considered the possibility that both Dark Eldar and the Inquisition are being dropped?

I strongly doubt this would increase profits for shareholders.

I'm not for or against Dark Eldar coming out. I like them the way they are just fine.

I just found it odd that places aren't stocking Dark Eldar, and GW isn't shipping Dark Eldar to stores, and that multiple trade reps are telling FLGS owners not to fill the orders because there's new stuff coming.

Manchu wrote:

Mick A wrote:Has anyone considered the possibility that both Dark Eldar and the Inquisition are being dropped?

I strongly doubt this would increase profits for shareholders.

Yeah, besides, GW hates doing things that just piss off their customers.

Oh wait...

No need to pick a fight.

They'll probably DROP Dark Eldar ,
and rename them into some sort of Eldar Pirate / Rogues.

Like... something dunno....

Manchu wrote:No need to pick a fight.

I'm just havin' a little fun.

Besides, I actually agree with you. I don't see GW dropping DE or WH/DH. Sure, WH/DH will cease to exist as they do not ie. they'll go from richly detailed and option-filled Inquisitorial forces w/Rogue's Gallery units + Chamber Militant units to full Chamber Militant armies w/Generic Inquisitors tacked on, but they'll still be an army.

Will believe it when I sees it!

I'm a realist, what can I say? Though I do hope it's true, and the Dark Ones really are finally en route!

Manchu wrote:

Mick A wrote:Has anyone considered the possibility that both Dark Eldar and the Inquisition are being dropped?

I strongly doubt this would increase profits for shareholders.

Just trying to think like GW are lately.

Sales of Dark Eldar and Inquisition figures can't be that great these days compared to the more mainstream armies so its probably better to stop producing them altogether which will mean players of these armies are likely to start a new army that has plenty of support. This means they will not need to invest more money in either carrying on producing the current figures which are not selling well or producing new figures and molds which does increase shareholder profits.

I personally hope this isn't true but you can never tell with GW these days...

Mick

I'd wager sales of DE and Inq haven't been good for a while. There is no indication that they've been a drain on GW in all this time so there's no reason to think that they've suddenly become one. I would also question your logic that lack of support would make people playing either DE or Inq switch armies in 2009 after this long. Even a GW hater can't assume they're that stupid. (That's your cue, HBMC.)


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January is the best time for DE rumors, btw. Because "late 2010" seems sooooo far away.

Manchu wrote:I'd wager sales of DE and Inq haven't been good for a while. There is no indication that they've been a drain on GW in all this time so there's no reason to think that they've suddenly become one. I would also question your logic that lack of support would make people playing either DE or Inq switch armies in 2009 after this long. Even a GW hater can't assume they're that stupid. (That's your cue, HBMC.)


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January is the best time for DE rumors, btw. Because "late 2010" seems sooooo far away.

Except that last January, GW wasn't telling FLGS owners not to fill their DE orders because new stuff was en route...

I wasn't on the boards last Jan. I did hear this rumor mentioned in June, however.