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Its all come together very nicely. I reckon i iike the weathering on the LRC the most =) Can't wait to see the speeders.

Hey Damian,

The photos turned out really well, shows off the minis to great advantage.

They do also show up a few minor areas for improvement.

First thing is the red, it's got a lovely vivid feel to it and the highlights work nicely but it lacks a little depth in places. If for example you look at the PF Marine from the side on shot the shoulder pad and helmet are both quite flat.

I think a light green wash or two would help give the red some depth in those areas like helmet crevices and also help give you a subtle shaded tone for some of the plates that are angled down (i.e. underside of the forearm, shins on inwards sloping legs etc.)

The second thing that stands out for me is probably some of the detail stuff. Using the guy below the side on PF Marine (the one with the excellent face & white hair) as an example I think for a minor time investment in painting details such as the gap between wrist and hand black, would really pay off in overall looks, same with the elbow joint/ribbing on the same guy.

I also think you could get a lot for a little by adding contrast to details such as the skulls on bolters or the pipes on the helmets in silver. If you want something less fiddly painting the casing or just the foregrip of bolters in black might help provide some contrast.

The last thing is the zapping of the armour with the zenithal style white spray. It's a great trick that gives you a nice army in very little time but I think when you do it without the entire mini assembled you need to pay a little extra attention to areas that get shadowed after things like weapons and arms go on.

The thighs of several minis are a good example of what I mean, especially from anything except dead front-on. I think an extra wash or two on those areas, or adding some ink to one of the three washes you already do, might tone those sections down a little more so they don't stand out so much.

Now that seems like a lot of criticism I know but it's all minor, niggly stuff that is going to consume extra time and as such, may not be all that important for you and a tabletop army. The army looks excellent so far as I said earlier, especially in the group shots, the red and black contrast well and the zenithal zap and wash technique really looks like it's paying off!



As an aside, did you do something to irk your postie? Niall turned up in my mailbox today with his box ripped and battered and missing his base and your address crossed out.

Thankfully he's alright, so I can make a new base for him and send him again later this week with some sturdier packaging, I'll let you know when he's in the post. But maybe smile at the postie next time you see him, eh?

nerdfest09 wrote:
@Darkstarsabre: Why thank you very much, they need to keep sharp roaming that 'ol Eye of Terror!, i'm glad you like how they're coming along, any updates on our master plan for a worldwide wardens V renegade?

Temporary pause while I get my Dark Elf painting done and sort of my finances. Having to prioritise sucks but it's a necessary evil really.

S*itallmighty, that is some serious painting Damo. The salamander is really impressive, I will steal that green recipe for some of my own minis as it will go well amongst my own darker green sallies.
You are getting seriouslly good at this by now, keep it up and golden deamon is next.


I agree with SCC about the red though, you need more depth. Better highlights by mixing in yellow and white to blood red and deeped/darker base red by starting out with gore red, blood red and DA green in a mix that looks nice. Think of it as the sallie green amour, you want to achieve the same effect of dark and light play but with red and reds are very difficult to do so with unless you play with mixtures of green, yellow and white.
Gore red works for the darker tones and blood red for the lighter but that´s just my own style. Last time I did that was on my old GKS:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/core/gallery-viewimage.jsp?i=131381&m=2&w=800

You can probably find better red recipees, just ask people around here till you see somehting you like and use it.

I love the way you've done the green on the salamanders its really nice with lots of depth.

The multi melta guy is excellent as well he stands out really nicely.

Looking forward to seeing more.

Best army you have ever painted and one of the best I have ever seen! And the Sallie? It could have been lifted from 'Eavy Metal. Too cool

Wow, thank you everyone, I'm happy that mostly you all like how they turned out and the 'criticism' has actualy been helpful and instructive (cheers SCC and Pyriel ) I know exactly what you guys meant about the highlights and depth as I can see it myself and always say 'i'll get to that' especially the leg armor and the ribbing joins I really just get too excited and forget it! this army was a bit of an experiment for me though to see what results could be achieved with minimal work and layers that's probably why my red can look flat on some as it's only primer/devlan mud/blood red/blood red & Orange so if I added more steps I hope I can get that shade you are talking about but I think i'll do that on some 'stand alone' mini's and keep plugging away at this one as it's only my tabletop army so i don't go crazy spending oodles of time on each one I never thought of green to deepen the red either but i should have realised when pyriel said use red to deepen green! it just goes the opposite way for red! duh! I think so far to date i've been working on it start to finish for about 9 weeks? so I am happy even though I have those smallish areas for improvement, but hopefully for a quick-ish tabletop one you guys approve? I will buy some more marines and put a the question out there of which chapters to paint them up as, that way I'm only spending my time painting one mini at a time using the hints and techniques that you guys have happily helped me out with! my next one is going to be an Imperial Fist marine! Ahhhhh, any ideas for yellow? I am glad though that the Sallie turned out well and I hope I can produce some more that standard!

Thanks again everyone for liking my work and helping me out with everything including inspiration and hints tricks and encouragement! I've still got a few models to go so the show's not over yet! then i'll do the learning thing and post up my progress with the teachings from two awesome artists SCC and the ever enigmatic Pyriel then hopefully it'll be 2017 and Necrons will be released! yay!

@SCC: I think maybe they don't want us to send anything to each other or they're short on cash and are making us pay double!


Cheers everyone i'm off to try and get some more finished today!


Nerdfest09

I think if you can add some of the flare you showed in the salamander to the tanks (the place where i dont think the red 'pops' enough) you will have an amazing looking force. As in my opinion the infantry are perfect.

Apart from maybe the assault marines standing on the tall cables. You need to reposition the feet if you want the guys to look in flight.

Thanks Perkustin, tanks were a bit hit or miss as it was first time using the airbrush for anything so I kind of experimented with masking bits off and I totally agree a couple of panels look flat as! but overall I can forgive myself I may re visit them and try and fix it later but right now i just want to finish my army and learn the game :-) and thank you for liking the infantry too! I like how they look for models that don't take very long to paint, i do however agree with scc that the joins need more care but eh! i'll get there one day!
assault marines do appear a little standy but it's not as bad in actuality, again first time trying pinning anything or using a pin vice! did you know LR crusaders have an annoying amount of barrels to drill? :-)

cheers dude!

Nerdfest09


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More small update on Tac squad #2 nearly all done, 8 tac marines finished and based and only heavy bolter dude and the vet sarge to finish, sarge has helmet at his feet with chunk blown from the side and what will be a wound on his head that now looks like tomato sauce! I gave him the puppetswar chainsword arm but i cut it in half to get it to look right, I don't have any brown stuff to fix the join yet so i'm painting it up anyway and i may go and do it properly later when i get some, but i need him for the first game i'm playing in what will be years! and it's against Tyranids, it'll be about my 3rd or maybe 4th game i'm not sure, but whatever happens the chain arm is counting as a power fist as I didn't have any!





there we go, not very exciting or even focussed now I look! but it's something!


cheers dudes

Nerdfest09

They all look great, the new pics really show off the painting you've done.

Very nice nerdfest... and I agree with WM, the new pics are great!

You forgot to paint the helmet skull on that HB marine

Stealing some of your ideas for my crimson-tinged grey knights. Great stuff as always mate!

Amazing work. I love the paint scheme and the weathing is beautiful.

But but but...that skull is not paaaaainted!

Pyriel... did you forget to take your meds this morning?? Hmmmm?

Besides, the skull is painted.... black. What he's forgotten to paint are the chest eagles which of course should be properly gold in color.

There's a skull on the Heavy Bolter you may want to check out as well Pyriel...

Gawd damn, more skulls forgotten? Nerd, how could you?

Of course I forgot to take my medication, I need to take it in order not to forget so if I dont take it I forget that I was supposed to take it, duh!
Besides, it´s all your fault for not reminding me.

Hmmmm how can I have everything painted Pyriel! they are W.I.P lol but just for you I will Never paint another skull just to annoy you! :-) it'll be like a where's wally book! you'll have to search for the unpainted skulls in my photo's!

And thank you to everyone else who has commented and like the marines! I think they worked well for what was my original goal for them! to make a 'decent' tabletop quality army as quickly as possible that still looked cool and was a little different! couldn't have done it without the teachings of a few venerable Dakka-ites you know who you all are :-)

now i'm going to FINISH painting those marines to appease the Dakka gods of sarcasm!

Oh Pyriel, don't forget to take your meds! :-)

Damo

Nerdfest09

sweet jesus alive the faces on these marines are the best ive seen i mean wow bud.. i thought my faces were ok but yours beat mine by miles i'm super impressed really really i am ... wow


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God smacked blown away..! truely

Thanks Bullyboy! I don't care what you say i'm still not a scratch on your work yet! but it'll be fun to chase your skills! i'm stoked you like the models, and the faces! they do take me a while though especially the terminator face....about 4 hours of fiddly tiny brushing! yuk not fun!

Now you need to blog up and show everyone here your Commissar and everything in like, a gallery blog just to show everyone how good you are! I keep referring to your work as some of the awesome stuff that inspired me with my work so i'm sure everyone that doesn't know you yet would be keen to see what you do!


catch you soon!

Nerdfest09


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Results from my first game in years! against the Tyranids of tyraneil! they invaded and laid waste to an imperial city, Marines Exemplar were sent to try and stem the invasion, but alas it was not to be, first turn looked good for our hardy boys in black and red wiping out a chunk of 2 squads of genestealers but were then within range of being eaten and lost men to the fury of their claws, the terminators then swarmed from the raider to attack the trygon and successfully wounded it and tied it up for a good chunk of the game! bad dice rolls were everywhere today and kept everyone in combat dancing around each other slicing and firing shots where they could into the melee! soon the Tervigon began to convulse and spew forth termagaunts from it's swollen leaking abdomen, soon a squad of 16 of them were harassing my librarian and dreadnought, and again everyone got lost in the swirling fights and were tied up again without victory! the genestealers decised to up the ante and spurred on by the glands on their back they decimated the tactical squads that were challenging them! soon it was obvious the city was lost! and chief Librarian Tomas called for a tactical withdrawal to conserve the future of the chapter to regroup and mourn the loss of the billions of lives already consumed by hive fleet Milani, not without pause to one day continue the fight another day on another world! result- loss to the Exemplars


Nerdfest09

Haha! (Said in the voice of Nelson from Simpsons)

I did however think of something you could have done that may have helped you. You deployed your Marines way too close to my Nids. If you had kept them back (maybe not even put them in transport) it would've taken me a bit longer to reach you. Giving you more time shoot at me from afar. Should've put your land raider to use as well, that multi melta could've changed the result. I'm just saying...

Next time you won't win! and we'll have a referee! :-) someone who actually knows the rules!

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nerdfest09 wrote:

The other thing i'm working on is my Terminator chaplain, I wanted someone to join my guys to help them kick ass in combat and who better than a hard ass chaplain? I've used the new grey knights torso and tabbard with standard terminator legs, and the chaplain skull mask from chapterhouse studios, i'm still working on getting parts for the arms as yet! but soon it will happen I've filed down the sword on the chest to replace maybe with a skull motif? and you can see in the background my spent bolter casings from secret weapon miniatures, not bad but very fiddly to use!



Nerdfest09

where are those skull shoulder pads by the Chaplain from - they're really cool!

bud where did you get those bad ass shoulder pads from i gotta get myself some of those


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love the amour of those salamanders bud very cool real old school look to them .. the custom librarian very cool to bud real tight paint job on him looks superb

and chief Librarian Tomas called for a tactical withdrawal

I did what now?

You know, you are supposed to point the guns at tyranids and shoot them and not run of into swirling melees

already consumed by hive fleet Milani

Is that an Italian hive fleet?

lol
Just pulling your leg here

Would be nice if you had the time to put a detailed batrep some day and us besserwissers like myself could analyse it for you.

and chief Librarian Tomas called for a tactical withdrawal


I did what now?

You know, you are supposed to point the guns at tyranids and shoot them and not run of into swirling melees

lol I know, i know! dude that cracked me up, never worry though you're leading another strike force tonight against Nurgle I wonder if your insults will hurt them as much as the bolter shells!

Is that an Italian hive fleet?

Umm, yep it sure is! Tyraneil has a thing for a model named Denise Milani and hence named his hive fleet after her! his thinking was if she was engulfing the galaxy he wouldn't move an inch!

bud where did you get those bad ass shoulder pads from i gotta get myself some of those

thanks Bullyboy, good to see you back here! I got those pads from here, there pretty nice aren't they!:
http://www.maxmini.eu/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=12&products_id=58

they're built for power armour but I just super glued and squeezed really hard to get them to sit reasonable on the terminator arms!

I'm off to work out my list for tonight where Librarian Tomas shall be chastising his troops with a wet fish after the performance yesterday! and I'll attempt to take some shots and do a bat rep, never done one before so if I don't think it sounds good.....but i'll try!

Also, if anyone is even the slightest bit interested, i worked out exactly how long it took me to paint an entire tactical squad from grey plastic to based and ready for battle! I said I wanted to do them quickly but still look the goods, well, I managed to crank out the squad in a total of 4 hours and 39 minutes! not bad I think I didn't include the assembly time as everyone is different when cutting off the sprue and neatening things up, but the actually painting didn't take long! sometimes i amaze even myself!......

Keep painting guys! may the emperor protect!....well, may he protect Tomas tonight!

Nerdfest09

lol I know, i know! dude that cracked me up, never worry though you're leading another strike force tonight against Nurgle I wonder if your insults will hurt them as much as the bolter shells!

Oh boy, we´re in for a rough night as the general himself hardly had the time to open his oh so wise mouth and already the first mistake is made. Bolter shells dont go well with nurgle marines, they might get tickled by them though.
lol
(that´s friendly insulting)

Umm, yep it sure is! Tyraneil has a thing for a model named Denise Milani

Hotdamn. Those are some huge eh, assets.

I'm off to work out my list for tonight where Librarian Tomas shall be chastising his troops with a wet fish after the performance yesterday

Well, could have been worse. The general screws up the plan but I am the one who gets all the flak well well...

I managed to crank out the squad in a total of 4 hours and 39 minutes! not bad I think

How the **** did you manage to do that?
I´m lucky if I can make one rank and file mini in that time and that is without a base.

Keep painting guys! may the emperor protect!....well, may he protect Tomas tonight!

I´ll give you "protect" you bum. I´m starting my GK paint blog tonight and i have no clue how to do it or what to do in order not to scare people of. Maybe have to hold in all insults a wee little bit for some time, might help, who knows but if things go sour and people boo me out it´s all your fault and I´ll be chasing you with a select assortment of wet fishes around that little steam aged village of yours

lol

Keep up your excellent painting Nerd.

The Marines Exemplar were en route to battle the forces of chaos when.....

*vox report* *transmission intercepted*...ot....aos,....I repea.....not chao....., jammi.... trying new..... *vox report terminated*

The Exemplar sat on the command deck, his blue armor glistening a shade so deep the stars were lost in it's sheen, Librarian Tomas listened again to the fractured report, "secrets and lies" he spoke under his breath, "scan all frequencies in east sub sector and bring up on screen" his gauntleted fingers drummed on the edge of his chair while waiting for a response, the servitors and astropaths hurried about, fingers and data cables clacking as they were passed from socket to boosters in response to his request, soon, an image made of text appeared scrolling in the air in front of Librarian Tomas, "good, hold image at 90.1 and continue scans" he spoke, quickly assessing the words floating in front of him, "it appears we were very nearly confounded brothers" he said to no one in particular before rising quickly and turning to the deck master "page the squad leaders and first company, instruct all battle brothers to prepare wargear and intone rights of battle with the chaplains, we go to war not against the foul forces of chaos at all, but a xenos threat we didn't expect".

A pneumatic hiss announced the arrival Librarian Tomas in the briefing room, the assembled marines nodded in respect as he sat, "this shall not take long brothers, we prepare for planetfall in 4 hours, after scrutinizing the reports our techs deciphered it appears the chaos incursion we expected is not to be! how or why this information was passed to us is yet to be determined, but it seems it was xenos, most notably the tau empire, my guess is they were attempting to jam the signals so as the mayday call didn't reach us on our barge! this shall not stay us now we know who we face, but it shall fuel our fury, no longer do we prepare to face the arrogant flaunting of chaos but the sneaky and underhanded tactics of the Tau, make haste and study landing logs and I shall meet you in the launch bay in due course"

The scent of oils and thick slabs of metal permeated the air as marines and tech servitors prepared for planet fall, brothers fully encased in ceramite armor nodded to one another, the deep red of their arms barely visible in the gloom of the dimly lit launch bays and the black of their armor lit eerily from within by their glowing eye lenses, they were ready, grim, resolute, and eager to do the Emperors work.

One by one, drop pods and thunderhawks left the bay arcing along the planets atmosphere mixing the contrails with the plumes of gas and clouds that shrouded thier approach.

Tomas was strapped into the lead chair in the thunderhawk, as mission commander he was making final calculations and preparations before landing, everything looked in order, west city Evandalus Prime, rich in mining materials and massive stacks of hydroponically grown vegetable and nutrients, they shall land behind what was once a penitentiary and advance around the south, A light glowed from the rear of the hold as vox speaker crackled to life with monotonous words... Ten, nine, eight, prepare for impact, seven........

This report is pretty abridged and i'm only going to roughly explain the events as i didn't take my camera for shots so if it jumps a bit don't worry you won't have missed much!

This was how the match started! the Marines exemplar landed and deployed, rhino's rushing through the rubble of what appeared to be a furious fire fight, imperial guard corpses littered the ground and large craters impeded their progress, Librarian Tomas attached himself to a 5 man tac squad of newly inducted marines while squads 'the deathstalkers' and 'the cleaners' rushed towards glimpses of blue in their rhino's, while venerable dreadnought 'Maundis' tried to sneak his bulk along the right hand edge of the buildings there, the terminators waited on board ready to strike down when needed and the Landraider crusader trundled his armored might into the firing line to distract the fire warriors peeking from cover and assault squad 'Valin' was preparing to use the ruined penitentiary as cover!
first turn saw the two battle suits enter the building the assault squad was using, Tau commander and his retinue of shield drones approached without fear of the marines, while the Tau's broadside targeted the landraider but failed to mark it or hit it at all! likewise the sniper squad who targeted the dreadnought although another squad did manage to light up and destroy a rhino forcing squad 'the cleaners' out and on foot for the remainder.
Assault squad 'valin' then bravely assaulted the two battlesuits in the building, and with the emperor on their side proceeded to destroy 3 drones! Librarian Tomas used GoI and transported his squad to land near a large horde of clacking beady eyed Kroot, whilst the intended target was the broadside suit this didn't deter them and they prepared to battle, the Landraider moved at speed trusting it's armored bulk to weather the storm of fire it was going to receive, and the Tau didn't disappoint, firing with a full squad and a broadside they all failed to penetrate and only chipped the paint.
Tau returned fire and picked off a few brother marines from 'the cleaners' as they were in the open, combat continued in the building with another drone destroyed by the assault captains mighty power fist!, Kroot rushed forward leaping over barricades and swinging the long blades on their rifles in wicked arcs aiming for Librarian Tomas and his squad, surrounding them they proceeded to squawk and slash at them their white milky eyes bulging pink around the edges as the fury of killing took them, but thankfully only one brother was felled with a rifle blade puncturing between his gorget and helmet!
Tomas returned the favor by casting smite and grinned as he watched three kroot spasm and fry, the avian forms smoking from open beaked mouths and a smell of roast chicken wafted over the battle.
More assault followed from the battle suits against the assault marines and finally one marine was shot from the air crashing into the ground broken, his heavy jump pack having crushed his spine and burst both of his enhanced hearts! as the rhino containing 'the deathstalkers' skidded to a halt the turret gunner firing into the fire warriors there, the squad disembarked and took up defensive positions around the transport ready to spring into assault next turn, the fight continued against the Kroot with another brother falling as his brother to his left avenged him only to be cut down by the shaper!
Venerable brother 'Maundis' was hit and couldn't move or shoot and managed to barely turn around while his components forced his armored body to spin back and forth without locking onto anything,
finally assault squad 'vandis' degeated the battlesuits and drones, the sergeants power fist striking down the majority of foes! they then checked coordinates and consolidated towards the squad firing at 'Maundis', it was not to be though as a shimmering haze manifested behind 'Maundis' transforming into a squad of stealth suits which proceeded to destroy him from behind (that's gonna hurt)
sensing the battle heating up, Tomas instructed the terminators to deep strike down and avenge the death of the old one, but alas, tragedy struck and the entire squad was destroyed in difficult terain! a sad day for the Exemplars,
Never fear, the battle was almost over as tactical squad 'the deathstalkers' decimated the fire warriors and chased them down, assualt squad 'valin' took out another sniper and moved towards the stealth suits, the Kroot overpowered the rest of Tomas's squad and started eating them, bloody flesh hanging from beaked maws, mortally wounded himself Tomas fell to the large predators losing blood and fading fast I imagine he crawled to cover and tried to re direct the battle before passing away (his future while grim means he may fight again) the stealth suits finally finished off the assault sergeant and the battle slowed, brothers scanning the field for enemy troops and blue clad figures flitting between barricades, soon the ground appeared empty and while losses were great on both sides the tau had left the planet, neither side could claim victory today and a decision to draw was recieved from above.....



Well that's sort of how it all went down last night!

Nerdfest09

Librarian Tomas listened again to the fractured report, "secrets and lies" he spoke under his breath,

Nope, you have it all wrong:
"Woman, where is my food?!" is more like me.

and massive stacks of hydroponically grown vegetable

Ooo, I like this one.
I´m so waging war against the evil vegetables! *mwahaha*
They are mostly just being in the way for the meat on the plate.

'the cleaners'

Anticimex first company...

Librarian Tomas used GoI and transported his squad to land near a large horde of clacking beady eyed Kroot

I did what?
(the horror)

destroy him from behind

hmm...

tragedy struck and the entire squad was destroyed in difficult terain!

They all to a man rolled 1:s for diff terrain tests?
Whooa.

Cool batrep, keep it up.

Lol thanks pyriel, you always make my day when you reply yep, sadly you waged war and ended up getting eaten by chickens! perhaps in future I shall make your character more self centered? and it will be more like "tech adept, where's my armor? don't make me slap you!"

Umm, yeah 'the cleaners' was a spur of the moment name! but I feel it may just stick now!...sergeant Ajax reporting for duty!

destroy him from behind


hmm...

yep, hmmmm sounds kinda wrong doesn't it!


off to update my blog now...pics in a bit

Nerdfest09


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here's the update on my chaplain (who has a name released when finished!) and my speeders! I slightly changed my ideas on the speeders color schemes but it should work out, although i don't think they'll look as good as my raven Guard ones i did but they were so long ago and were a happy accident!





And an update on my chaplain, looking pretty good now I think and with a bit more work he'll scrub up nicely!




catch you all soon!

Nerdfest09