Dark Eldar 2nd wave are here...(new Haemonculus, Razorwing, Wracks & Grotesques pics on p23)

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**Zyllos**

Brother SRM wrote:Source? You're stating this as a fact and I'd like some evidence.

Ya, I could not give you any concrete evidence that they do not sell well. Still believe it is not selling as good as it previously was (in 4th).

**Happygrunt**

GW! TAKE MY MOENY!

I love that fighter. If the bomber looks as good, I will be golden.

**Skarboy**

My pre-orders are in and offering a quick plug for www.miniaturemarket.com, where I got 25% off the order. A bunch of Scourges and Talos (Taloi? Chroni? whatever) headed my way, plus a token Venom (already converted six). BTW, their pre-order list had the Razorwing as shipping on 6/18 to the surprise of no one. Awesome stuff.

**Kroothawk**

Leggy wrote:
Kroothawk wrote:Valkyrie prized, not £25.50.

HerrDusty on Warseer wrote:It'll actually be cheaper than the Valkyrie, it'll be £25.50, I read my local GW's product brief, I was very pleasantly suprised.

*Shrugs* Rumours are rumours.

Didn't see the other rumour at first.
But £25.50 could be true.
The Razorwing is only two sprues, one of them the one piece upper hull, the other the details and maybe smaller lower hull. So it's a rather simple kit and looks smaller than a Valkyrie.

**baron deathnyx**

Awesome you can pre-order from miniature market and get twenty five percent off. I just finished pre-ordering myself.

**AvatarForm**

wyomingfox wrote:
Just Dave wrote:Why do people think SW need a 2nd wave? The only model that isn't supported is the TWC IMHO and apparently they're on their way...

The same reason DE players wanted new scourges, a new Talos, and a razorwing, ect. The models are either FW only or heavily outdated.

TWC: No Model
Fenris Wolves: Warhammer Models from around same time period as 40K 2nd Edition on retangular bases
Bjorn/Venerable: 2nd Edition or FW
Ulrich: 2nd Edition
Ragnar: 2nd Edition
Rune Priest (Standard): 3rd Edition
Iron Priest: 2nd Edition
Wolf Priest (Standard): No model

There is no rumored date or even a season rumored for the TWC; just that they won't come out as a FW release as GW will eventually make them in Plastic.

Not that anyone takes an Iron Priest...

However, the remainder (aside from TWC) can be kitbashed...

**Exergy**

wyomingfox wrote:
Just Dave wrote:Why do people think SW need a 2nd wave? The only model that isn't supported is the TWC IMHO and apparently they're on their way...

The same reason DE players wanted new scourges, a new Talos, and a razorwing, ect. The models are either FW only or heavily outdated.

TWC: No Model
Fenris Wolves: Warhammer Models from around same time period as 40K 2nd Edition on retangular bases
Bjorn/Venerable: 2nd Edition or FW
Ulrich: 2nd Edition
Ragnar: 2nd Edition
Rune Priest (Standard): 3rd Edition
Iron Priest: 2nd Edition
Wolf Priest (Standard): No model

There is no rumored date or even a season rumored for the TWC; just that they won't come out as a FW release as GW will eventually make them in Plastic.

Its not like space wolves are not marines. There are plenty of new vehicles and sprues for marines to use all the time. You want to tell me its easy to convert CWE stuff into DE stuff?

**Tyras**

To: Games.Workshop@gamesworkshop.com
From: Privateer.Press@privateerpress.com
Subject: RE Talos

The Cryx are a little miffed, they'd like their Warjack back. Thanks

**ShatteredBlade**

I could not be more pleased with this release!

Though, when are the razorwings supposed to hit?

**Jburch**

dunno if this has been said or not, but I just heard that the black box arrived at a nearby FLGS. Wish it was close enough for me to head on over to actualy take a look at the kits, but o wells

**Deathly Angel**

Foo wrote:
Nvs wrote:In the article, what kit are they talking about using for the legs?

Phil's infamous 'Drill-legged Shriveners'
I was wondering this myself.

In the page for the Talos in the codex it quotes 'From the clanking chainghoul favoured by the Prophets of Flesh to the drill - legged Shriveners guarding the Everspiral.' I don't know whether this was simply Phil's idea or there would be an upcoming kit for it (probably not likely)... Maybe it could be a conversion that will be featured in What's New Today?

**OnDebit**

why is everyone so convinced that wracks will be in metal/resin? in my opinion, everything about them screams plastic. same with grotesques. they would all be perfect for multi part plastic kits with tons of bits so that no two have to be exactly the same. I will be quite disapointed if they end up as metal.

**Slayer le boucher**

I will take 5 Talos for my Deamons/CSM army...mmmh scorpion looking Dreads and new bits for my Blood Slaugtherers conversions!!!

**Ysclyth**

Razorwing looks fantastic!

Scourges are awesome. I definitely remember calling out bat wings as an option before this. Wish I could find where I said it to prove once and for all that I am a psyker.

Venom is as expected.

Talos/Cronos is amazing. I haven't even considered doing a coven themed army until I saw this. Now I really want to see wracks and grots. But they wont be in the next release? Hopefully we will see some new haemys because the old ones are bleh.

**Swiftblade**

The Talos... I want it. Is such an amazing looking model...

**Panic**

yeah,

Slayer le boucher wrote:I will take 5 Talos for my Deamons/CSM army...mmmh scorpion looking Dreads and new bits for my Blood Slaugtherers conversions!!!

I'm also looking at the kit as a awesome source for blight drones.
I have 3 FW drones (Half Finished) but they all look the same, I want 7 and these are perfect conversion fodder to adjust the first three and make the final four... Perfect.

Oh the hobby bug has bitten hard!
Must get some painting done this weekend! so that I deserve these!

Panic...

edit added compare shots of pain engine and drone...

**StraightSilver**

The Razorwing is a bit bigger than a Falcon Grav Tank, so not as big as a Valkyrie by any means, and a bit smaller than a Storm Raven, but not really by that much to be honest.

Certainly £25.50 doesn't sound a million miles away from the right price.

**Snord**

Tyras wrote:To: Games.Workshop@gamesworkshop.com
From: Privateer.Press@privateerpress.com
Subject: RE Talos

The Cryx are a little miffed, they'd like their Warjack back. Thanks

To: Privateer Press
From: Jes Goodwin

Got your note about the Cryx. Tell them that, as they borrowed virtually every design feature from my earlier work, I'm not too bothered if they think the Talos looks a little like one of their Warjacks.

love, Jes

P.S. Isn't it about time you guys moved beyond 2nd Edition WH40k? Check out my new Dark Eldar - they're quite nice, and they're made out of real plastic.

**Panic**

yeah,

Tailgunner wrote:...love, Jes
P.S. Isn't it about time you guys moved beyond 2nd Edition WH40k? Check out my new Dark Eldar - they're quite nice, and they're made out of real plastic.

^this...
...is why we need a like button on dakka!

Panic...

**Scottywan82**

Seconded.

**Saintspirit**

StraightSilver wrote:The Razorwing is a bit bigger than a Falcon Grav Tank, so not as big as a Valkyrie by any means, and a bit smaller than a Storm Raven, but not really by that much to be honest.

Certainly £25.50 doesn't sound a million miles away from the right price.

Maelstrom games takes £22.95 for it, and also says that the common retail price is £25.50, so that seems right.

**MagickalMemories**

OnDebit wrote:why is everyone so convinced that wracks will be in metal/resin? in my opinion, everything about them screams plastic. same with grotesques. they would all be perfect for multi part plastic kits with tons of bits so that no two have to be exactly the same. I will be quite disapointed if they end up as metal.

While I'd prefer plastic, myself, and think they'd be more appropriate as a plastic kit, *ever* "trusted" rumor that's come out about them has said they'd be metal.
With the current "all metal going to resin" rumor, the previous Wrack rumor has altered to include resin.

Eric

**Agamemnon2**

Tyras wrote:To: Games.Workshop@gamesworkshop.com
From: Privateer.Press@privateerpress.com

Don't quit your day job.

**BladeWalker**

So is the Razorwing in the black box? What is the release date and price of it?

**Skarboy**

I didn't order any Razorwing Jetfighters, but it was listed as MSRP $41.25 USD ($30.95 after 75% off) on the preorder list from which I made my Scourge/Talos order. Shipping 6/18. That is pretty much exactly 25.50 GBP. So, take that as confirmation if you will.

**Kroothawk**

BladeWalker wrote:So is the Razorwing in the black box? What is the release date and price of it?

Black Box features Venom, Talos/Cronos and Scourges.
Razorwing price indeed £25.50/$49.50 USD/32.50€, release date 18th June.
peterjameslewis711 over at Warseer suggested that the bomber is twice the size of the Razorwing.

**Ratius**

Ouch! just saw the RW. Very very nice.

**Snord**

Kroothawk wrote:
Razorwing price indeed £25.50/$49.50 USD/32.50€, release date 18th June.
peterjameslewis711 over at Warseer suggested that the bomber is twice the size of the Razorwing.

Can that be right? I had assumed from the description in the codex that the Voidraven is essentially a bomber version of the Razorwing. I can't see GW doing separate kits for these models. Are we sure that the Razorwing and Voidraven won't be the same kit?

**Smitty0305**

Venoms look sweet.

**baron deathnyx**

If anybody has just read Jes's design story of the talos on GW website he mentions that there will be a coven unit for DE.