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I decided to start a csm army and I love the look of the black legion scheme. I started with the berzerkers and I didn't want to do the normal red colors as well as not being a fan of the heads that come with the zerkers, in my opinion they look kind of "khorney" so I decided to use champion heads for them, seeing as they are almost the same height.

It's a rather good job Its clear that they're black legion, and you do get black legion beserkers. Maybe add a Khorne logo on that blank shoulder, so it's less likely people confuse them for just khorne marked marines. All in all good job

Thanks! They still need sum work but I all most got the first 4 of 12 done. Not sure about putting khorne transfers on the bare arm due to them being all black on the transfer sheets I have. Most likely will put the eye of Horus on the arms.

One other thing any ideas about the tips of the horns? Not sold on the lighter bone color. Was thinking maybe using some gloss and maybe black and gloss, not to sure what that would look like.

i like it keep going man i wana see more as this army builds

You should reposition the legs, make them look like they're charging into battle. They just look so much angrier that way. or you could do some blood splatter across the armor and weapons, but DO NOT overdo that. I cannot emphasize enough that if you choose to do the blood, you have to be very careful to not overdo it. Just mix red wash and PVA glue to make it, don't use paint for blood. And remember to make a realistic blood splatter. I do love the mixing of black legion and zerkers

The other ones have action legs. I was going for the molly hatchet look with the first one.

The blood i was going to save for the bases, I purchased 20 of the skull fields bases which were alot better then I hoped they would be. I really like them. In the picture they could have gone either way but they are not cheap looking at all.So baal red and pva huh ill have to try that. I was going to buy some water fx and try to mix some red in it but will try that first.

I really like the skull bases, I’ve been looking for something along those lines for my Legion of the Damned squads…

yep, just baal red and pva Mix it til its a red to a dark red, but the glues still thick. The water fx will work just as well, just water fx is like 100x more expensive than pva, as i'm sure you know lol.

@ Rhich This is the link to the skull bases . The quality of the bases was really good, better then the pictures make them out to be.

http://www.secretweaponminiatures.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=79_2_5&products_id=246

I'm now on the fence about blood at all on the bases, its a bone field there really wouldn't be any blood left. Here is some pictures of the bases, now wondering if I should add pva & brown and go for mud or leave them as is. What do you guys think? Sorry about the poor photo's My girl has my camera in her glove box.







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As usual , thanks for all the help Dakka.

Personally, I'm diggin the black scheme. It looks better than most of the Berserkers I see. Not a huge fan of the way they normally look, and this goes a good way towards redeeming them for me. How much did those skull field bases set you back, and from whence did you acquire them?

Thanks Solo, they were 1$ each and were from http://www.secretweaponminiatures.com/index.php?main_page=index&zenid=sccada1k2t8fd9sk13ipq1rti2

Question for anyone. I have gloss varnish but have yet to use it, what would it look like if I glazed the red on the shoulder pad with it? Wet or just shiny?

Personally I feel the red you currently have is too bright for the black, mayhaps hit it with a devlan or badab wash, and I'd highlight your black with a dark grey, but I do like your hybrid scheme for the black legion zerkers.

Thanks.

The brightness of the red is from the light in the room in the picture, I keep thinking its too dark in person which is why i was wondering about the varnish.

As for the grey I have tried it and I guess im not that good of a painter. It looks bad. When I try to line it I keep trying to make too smooth of lines and in the process they get very wide, and starts too look more grey then black. Maybe I will try to dry brush some grey over my base coat and try the reverse with the black.

Some more done. I'm going to hold off on the bases till they are all done. Also ordered some microset/sol just waiting on the post to get some transfers on them. Please comment, any help or ideas would be great.

Wow, these look great! Only thing I would change is maybe adding some "skull helmets" to get more variety. Where did you get those bases?

I really dislike the KB's heads, the rest of my forces will have other heads. For some reason I like a little uniformity in my chaos. I do plan on doing a skull champ with a different head.

The bases are from secretweaponminiatures as has been stated and linked twice in this big one page thread lol.

Edit-Thanks BTW for the compliment!

i think they need a little gore on them, the best looking blood i have seen uses Tamiya Clear Red with a drop of Asurmen Blue and Leviathan Purple. it gives it a deep red color and it is glossy when it dries so it looks like fresh blood.

sorry, I didn't see the link

some gore would be cool, but if it's not done propperly, it tends to make mess out of a clean paintjob. at least that's my experience with this... I tend to keep the blood on the blades only, so that the mini itself is left clean and no detail gets lost under the gore.

I was thinking that the bases i would add some gore but then I thought bones really wouldnt have gore....they are dried bones after all. Also I have no experience with gore so doing on my minis seems like a risk im really not willing to take. I can make the fluff fit. They are untested in combat and it is just after Abaddon tells them to pain their armor black."...many bastardized practices of lobotomisation have spread to other Chaos Space Marine forces...Abaddon and his Black Legion in particular have recruited a number of highly skilled Berzerker-Surgeons to their cause...." (pg 36) and "He [Abaddon] ordered his remaining Chaos Space Marines to repaint their armor black in eternal memory of their shame...Champions of many Legions and gods now vie to fight for Abaddon in the colours of the Black Legion."(pg 22).

These guys look good. I dont go for the whole gore covering everything myself as stated above if its not done properly. As for the colours Im sure I read somewhere (2nd edition Codex Chaos maybe?) that the colours of Khorne are Red, Black and Brass so having Black as the main colour and Red the spot colour fits the fluff anyway.

Daayuum, those are some great Berzerkers. I really like the uniform appearance.

Thanks! I will post some pics later on the skull champ im working on.


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Here is the skull champion im working on. Going to use one of the possessed claws as a power fist. Debating on cutting the middle finger down as it really looks like he's flipping the bird. Thoughts and opinions welcome.

decent backpack! the idea with the horns is a nice alternative to the Arx helmets, too.

That backpack is excellent.

Really diggin' the work on the horns and the possessed arms. The horns on the backpack seem a tad bit too big IMO, but they fit well into your scheme. Keep up the good work.

Thanks!

I kinda thought that they might be a little to high, but the way I look at it is he is the champ, he has to have the biggest horns. The whole reason I put the horns on the backpack was that the head that I was going to use wasn't as high as the rest, and the skull champ had horn envy. Almost done with the champ and the last three zerkers. Will post pics tonight or tomorrow.

All finished with the exception of transfers and bases. The power fist could have come out better but you live and you learn. Over all though I am pleased with the squad, some may not like the uniformed look of them but its just they way I like to do things.

Dude these looks so good!

Thanks.
Bases and transfers are in the works now.

Then its on to the 10 regular csm or the chosen/possessed I have. I really don't want to get anymore chaos till the new dex comes out.