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anonymous source over at faeit212 wrote:FW Projects:
1) HH: Massacre just after Orpheus, September.
Then Warhammer Fantasy (Lustria) campaign and dino releases end 2013, early 2014.
Expect HH: (Massacre 2) middle 2014 and HH: (Prospero) late 2014 / early 2015.

2) Miniatures:
HH sell really well!
Specific HH chapter Contemptors, special characters and dioramas with book releases, as expected.
New Jetbike design (less sleek more angles).
Legion Stormblade soon.
Ravenguard specific Stormraven variant.
As with Thallax, there will be small units and characters for Custodes and Sisters of Silence after Prospero release.
Also, Malcador and Garro mini diorama in 2014, Russ and Johnson duel in 2015.

I especially like the part that Fantasy production is not on hold and that FW will release a Lustria campaign book with Dinos soon

Yeah, that Lustria thing is a bit left-field - I'm pretty sure they were still working on the O&G/Dwarf/Empire one (Battle for Blackfire Pass? I forget).

Hmn, I wonder how much the Lustria campaign will be based off of the old Lustria ruleset from a couple of years ago. The prospect of seeing the zombie pirates and the Norse of Skeggi making a return makes me pretty chirpy though. =)

 Dysartes wrote:

 IdentifyZero wrote:

 cincydooley wrote:
Destroyers are in the HH Betrayal book. They're dual pistol wielding psycopaths that test out new weaponry, namely the Rad Missle Launcher. They can also take jump packs with those missle launchers....

They can take jump packs? I missed that!

I've posted a pic of the jump pack version of the unit (which has different torsos) earlier in this thread, IdentifyZero - according to Will Hayes they will be out later this year.

And he also confirmed the heavy weapon was the Missile Launcher with Rad Missiles and Suspensor Web.

Yeah dude! I saw that picture and I have to admit, something in my pants stirred. I was so amazed I missed these guys can take jump packs! It's like, how the hell did I skim over that unit option! That makes destroyers 10x cooler

Even happier I sold all of my old pre-heresy armor and gear almost because wow just wow, the new releases are getting harder and harder to resist.

nm. found it

 Azazelx wrote:

 Kroothawk wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
D’ya get the feeling that FW were given an awfully short leash when it came to inventing new Necron units?

BL and FW are the only prospering branches of GW, while the main business is kept afloat only by crazy price hikes.
Now GW managers have dealt with BL and intoduced a new policy there, FW will be next.

What did they do to BL?

The switch to hardback, all the limited edition and the huge focus on novellas and digital only short stories have killed a lot of interest for a lot of us over in the BL rumours thread.

There's nothing wrong with the switch to hardback.

 Moopy wrote:
There's nothing wrong with the switch to hardback.

It's more the HH books not getting any previews or even noticed of their existence until 2 weeks before release.

 Moopy wrote:
There's nothing wrong with the switch to hardback.

Really, there's nothing wrong with switching to a three-format system halfway through the series, which results in anyone who wants to keep getting the same paperbacks they were before waiting nine-sodding-months after the actual release date? There was nothing preventing them from continuing with the same format and release schedule as before, then releasing the hardback versions of the books as "collector edition hardbacks", other than naked greed of course.

 Yodhrin wrote:

 Moopy wrote:
There's nothing wrong with the switch to hardback.

Really, there's nothing wrong with switching to a three-format system halfway through the series, which results in anyone who wants to keep getting the same paperbacks they were before waiting nine-sodding-months after the actual release date? There was nothing preventing them from continuing with the same format and release schedule as before, then releasing the hardback versions of the books as "collector edition hardbacks", other than naked greed of course.

Exactly.

Have to agree with Yodhrin - there is indeed something wrong with the New Way at BL...

Hardback simply gives them a reason to charge more. In reality, where normal people live, Hardback is only a few dollars more.

Not a 10+ dollar increase across the board. Or 15, in the case of 40k codices.

Of course, hardback does make it a premium product... obviously...

 McNinja wrote:
Hardback simply gives them a reason to charge more. In reality, where normal people live, Hardback is only a few dollars more.

Not a 10+ dollar increase across the board. Or 15, in the case of 40k codices.

Of course, hardback does make it a premium product... obviously...

They learned the first time they did a limited edition novella, charged 10x more than a normal book and it sold out instantly; that 40k fans are crazy, like fans of anything else.

If people didn't buy into it, they wouldn't do it.

Lots of rich fat blokes out there buying up $80 100 page books !

 IdentifyZero wrote:

 McNinja wrote:
Hardback simply gives them a reason to charge more. In reality, where normal people live, Hardback is only a few dollars more.

Not a 10+ dollar increase across the board. Or 15, in the case of 40k codices.

Of course, hardback does make it a premium product... obviously...

They learned the first time they did a limited edition novella, charged 10x more than a normal book and it sold out instantly; that 40k fans are crazy, like fans of anything else.

If people didn't buy into it, they wouldn't do it.

Lots of rich fat blokes out there buying up $80 100 page books !

Or it could be like the fliers supplement or (probably) tau and they are selling out because they are making only a handful of them.

 jonolikespie wrote:

 IdentifyZero wrote:

 McNinja wrote:
Hardback simply gives them a reason to charge more. In reality, where normal people live, Hardback is only a few dollars more.

Not a 10+ dollar increase across the board. Or 15, in the case of 40k codices.

Of course, hardback does make it a premium product... obviously...

They learned the first time they did a limited edition novella, charged 10x more than a normal book and it sold out instantly; that 40k fans are crazy, like fans of anything else.

If people didn't buy into it, they wouldn't do it.

Lots of rich fat blokes out there buying up $80 100 page books !

Or it could be like the fliers supplement or (probably) tau and they are selling out because they are making only a handful of them.

Oh I was referring to Black Library. GW can kiss my butt when it comes to the new codex costs, in Canada it costs me as much as a FW book for a codex.

 Yodhrin wrote:

 Moopy wrote:
There's nothing wrong with the switch to hardback.

Really, there's nothing wrong with switching to a three-format system halfway through the series, which results in anyone who wants to keep getting the same paperbacks they were before waiting nine-sodding-months after the actual release date? There was nothing preventing them from continuing with the same format and release schedule as before, then releasing the hardback versions of the books as "collector edition hardbacks", other than naked greed of course.

First world problems. I like my books in HC, and I'm glad they're switching over. Granted I'm not happy to rebuy the old books to get HC versions, but that's up to me.

@ H.B.M.C. I agree with that part. 2 weeks notices is horribles.

It's actually 1 weeks notice.

And "first world problems" is hardly a retort: I don't anyone was claiming it to be something more.

 Kroothawk wrote:

anonymous source over at faeit212 wrote:FW Projects:
1) HH: Massacre just after Orpheus, September.
Then Warhammer Fantasy (Lustria) campaign and dino releases end 2013, early 2014.
Expect HH: (Massacre 2) middle 2014 and HH: (Prospero) late 2014 / early 2015.

2) Miniatures:
HH sell really well!
Specific HH chapter Contemptors, special characters and dioramas with book releases, as expected.
New Jetbike design (less sleek more angles).
Legion Stormblade soon.
Ravenguard specific Stormraven variant.
As with Thallax, there will be small units and characters for Custodes and Sisters of Silence after Prospero release.
Also, Malcador and Garro mini diorama in 2014, Russ and Johnson duel in 2015.

I especially like the part that Fantasy production is not on hold and that FW will release a Lustria campaign book with Dinos soon

Except according to all the designers I spoke to at the open day the next book is going to be Blackfire Pass, which is on hold due to resources being diverted to HH.
Steve Whitehead was quite insistent on the matter, as he was rather put out that his empire command kit was being released long before the book they were made for, so I'm calling BS on 'Lustria' especially given the abundance of new O&G, empire and Dwarf models, and the complete absense of any Lizardmen models whatsoever either in the past or in previews for FW.

 Goliath wrote:
Except according to all the designers I spoke to at the open day the next book is going to be Blackfire Pass, which is on hold due to resources being diverted to HH.
Steve Whitehead was quite insistent on the matter, as he was rather put out that his empire command kit was being released long before the book they were made for, so I'm calling BS on 'Lustria' especially given the abundance of new O&G, empire and Dwarf models, and the complete absense of any Lizardmen models whatsoever either in the past or in previews for FW.

I thought the emote made it clear that I think all this is poorly made up. Maybe except HH is selling well

New stuff up for order.

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff

 gianlucafiorentini123 wrote:
New stuff up for order.

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff

Argh, still no more of the Necron stuff!

Hmm... Graviton Cannon. I wrote rules for a graviton cannon in The Lathe Worlds for Dark Heresy. I could use that as a model for it.

Hi there,
This is turning out to be a great week for Forge World. Firstly, we held yet another well-received Open Day at the weekend here at GW HQ. Then, hot on its heels, was our announcement that the new Imperial Armour Volume 12: The Fall of Orpheus is now available to pre-order.

So where can we go from there? Well, in today’s newsletter we’ve got details of a fantastic new Realm of Battle scenery tile and not one, not two, but three new Horus Heresy kits, which are all available to pre-order now, as well as news about the new Forge World 2013 catalogue and a couple of upcoming events.

Realm of Battle Crashed Thunderhawk



Debuted at last weekend's Forge World Open Day, the latest addition to our ever-expanding scenery range is the Realm of Battle Crashed Thunderhawk board. This board represents one of the mightiest of Space Marine flyers brought low; shattered and hurled to the ground by enemy gunfire. Created by Blake Spence, it has been painstakingly designed to show the internal structure of this legendary gunship after terrible damage has been inflicted upon its hull.

This highly detailed new scenery tile makes a great centrepiece for your gaming table, a fantastic diorama base for your collection or, when combined with other Realm of Battle boards, allows you to fight some great rescue or last stand scenarios. The Realm of Battle Crashed Thunderhawk measures 2' x 2' (609mm x 609mm) and is available to pre-order now for despatch from Friday 3rd May.

Legion MkIV Destroyer Squad



Considered dishonourable by some Legions, who eschew them altogether or make little use of them, the arsenal of a Destroyer squad includes rad-weapons, bio-alchem munitions and the crawling horror of phosphex. These hellish devices, which irrevocably taint the ground upon which they are used, have been forbidden by the Emperor’s own edict, and with good reason. For during the long nightmare of the Age of Strife, many life-sustaining colony worlds were rendered barren by their use, becoming uninhabitable charnel houses where once these verdant planets held thriving civilisations.

It is little wonder therefore that those who wield these potent weapons of destruction are heavily protected from their effects – the fire-blackened and chem-scalded Destroyers being clad in modified and reinforced suits of power armour, essential to withstand the deadly rad-taint of their own weaponry. Often shunned and distrusted by their Legion brothers, the Destroyers are deemed a necessary evil at best during these violent times, yet none can deny the potency of their relic-weapons.

Will Hayes has designed the Legion MkIV Destroyer Squad, comprising a set of five multi-part resin models with five pairs of Tigrus pattern bolt pistols, as well as three phosphex bombs and an optional rad-missile launcher. Rules for using a Destroyer Squad as part of a Space Marine Legion force can be found in The Horus Heresy Book One: Betrayal, and this highly detailed kit is available to pre-order now for despatch from Friday 3rd May.

Legion Rapier Graviton Cannon and Quad Heavy Bolter



The Rapier armoured carrier is a semi-automated weapons carriage, equipped with on-board targeting systems and powerful generators. It is designed to mount support weaponry too large and cumbersome for even the superhuman strength of a Space Marine to carry, and the Rapier’s relatively small size makes it an ideal support weapon both in attack and defence.

The most common armaments of the Rapier are quad heavy bolters or laser destroyer arrays for anti-personnel and anti-armour roles, while Quad Launcher are favoured for siege warfare. On occasion, a Legion’s Techmarines will also use a Rapier carrier as a mount for more exotic weaponry such as a Graviton cannon.

Stuart Williamson has designed two new Rapier weapons systems. The Legion Rapier Graviton Cannon and Legion Rapier Quad Heavy Bolter are both detailed multi-part resin models, and each armoured carrier is accompanied by two Space Marine crew in MkIII power armour. Rules for using a Rapier Weapons Battery as part of a Space Marine Legion force can be found in The Horus Heresy Book One: Betrayal, and both these kits are available to pre-order now for despatch from Friday 3rd May.

New Forge World Catalogue Now Available
The Forge World 2013 catalogue is now being sent out. So if you’d like a free copy, please send your name and postal address in an e-mail entitled ‘2013 Catalogue Request’ to forgeworld@gwplc.com. A pdf version of the catalogue is also available here.

Forge World Events News
Forge World Open Day Review
Thanks to everyone who came to see us on Sunday 7th April for the Forge World Open Day. We hope you had a great time, and if you couldn’t make it but want to join us at next year’s event, this is a little of what you can expect.

Salute and the Horus Heresy Weekender 2013
We are still accepting reservation orders for Salute and the Horus Heresy Weekender. This is the best way to ensure we have the exact product you want, packed up and waiting for you at the event. As with all our UK shows, Salute and the Horus Heresy Weekender reservation orders are pre-paid to make the collection process quicker and easier, leaving you with more time to enjoy the rest of the event.

Please telephone the Customer Service team on 0115 900 4995 to place a reservation order. We will require your name, a contact telephone number and e-mail address, along with the list of products you wish to reserve and for which event, and you will also need your card details to hand too. We’ll process the payment while you are on the phone, and in the week before the event you’ll receive a confirmation e-mail containing your order number. This is your proof of payment and you must bring this e-mail with you to claim your order. We must receive Salute reservations by Monday 15th April and Horus Heresy Weekender reservations by Monday 13th May.

Thanks,
Ead Brown
Customer Service Manager
Forge World


Pictures:

Legion Destroyer Squad





Rapier Graviton Gun



Rapier Quad Heavy Bolter

Crashed Thuderhawk: £90. Regular Thunderhawk: £399

Yup.

 Wyrmalla wrote:
Crashed Thuderhawk: £90. Regular Thunderhawk: £399

Yup.

Your point?

Comparative amount of resin, £309 price hike... Ok I can see the difference in content, but it shows just how much of a hike FW's putting on their Thunderhawks (even if the board is priced in line with comparable products).

Yeah but it is also one mold compared to 30 so...

 Wyrmalla wrote:
Crashed Thuderhawk: £90. Regular Thunderhawk: £399

Yup.

You ever tried un-crashing a thunderhawk? Takes at least four trained professionals working for over three weeks. You are getting a substantial discount here.

Don't suppose anyone knows if they planned on doing all the squads in all the armour marks? (Such as mark 2 or 3 jetbike a, destroyer squads etc.)?

I highly doubt it. Chances are each mark will have their own type of squad/bike instead. FW seem to be enjoying their maximus armour right now though, guess they sell the best?