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So I've got a mind to do some converting work on the Necron force that I'm going to build up. I've already been scouting around the net for some ideas and landed upon a few that I want to carry forward with that I think are practical (ergo not stupidly expensive) and that I like the look of; though I'd welcome any further suggestions/ideas as well as tips on achieving what I'm aiming for.
This is pretty practical as the Immortal kit can convert 10 warrior weapons and the remainder of the kit can be made into lightning gun immortals or Deathmarks
Triarch Stalker
Spoiler:
Whilst I like the sculpt I'd rather have the stalker be like the spydr and others and thus be a mechanical machine rather than a mount for a warrior. So to that end I've done some looking around and found a few examples including one from Dakka
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/451274.page
I'm likely going to copy the same idea, though I'm curious as to if anyone has used any other parts/features for the back area of the stalker once the rider is removed.
No real source for the second one though the back looks like the rear arc/tail folded over another part inside the rider area.
Night/Doom Scythe
Spoiler:
Probably a long while before I pick any up, but when I do I'll likely cover the cockpit. The FW part used in the bomber would be ideal, though likely impossible to get hold of. So instead I've seen people use two segments of the wraith back/body to cover over. A bit of greenstuff around the edges and it should make for a good cover.
https://bonecron.blogspot.co.uk/2015/08/nightdoom-scythe-conversion-mkii.html
Night Shroud Bomber
Spoiler:
Originally wasn't going to do anything, but then I came across this whilst searching and the old Zerg fan in my loved the guardian bomber/artillery look of it. Whilst a more expensive conversion than some others it's actually cheaper than getting the FW option.
https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/858217272713990422/
Lychguard/Praetorians
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I plan to use some egyptian heads from puppetswar.
Chances are the bastet heads will go best with the Praetorians and their raised back ridge, whilst the anubis heads can go with the lychguard.
I've already asked around about this one and it seems that it should work with a little modification to the head bases
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/745812.page
Catacomb Command Barge/Annihilation Barge
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I'm aware these kits can be magnetized, though honestly having looked around at army lists I don't think I'll get a huge advantage out of magnetizing so it might be easier to simply have them as-is and fixed. Even though its my impression that they are one of those "paint then glue" models in some areas so that you can get access with the brush to all parts.
Ghost/Doomsday Ark/
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Again akin to the barge this might be easier to simply build fixed rather than with magnets. Although I've seen a few conversions out there and I'm open to adapting the doomsday into a slightly different beast, perhaps dropping the rider (the ghost I rather think the commander mounted fits very nicely with the necron theme).
Not sure if I'll magnetize these or not. I've found a guide that makes it possible to magnetize the whip arms, but not sure until I hold the model and see how they are to work with before I make a choice on this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qV_KTQp1YKI
Canoptek Spyder
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Only going to magnetize the main weapons on the back
Destroyers
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These are a tricky one for me. I don't dislike the model, at the same time I'm not overly fond of them. I also dislike how they are still using the clear-plastic gause weapons; plus how GW decided to oddly split them up into plastic kits and rather expensive resin upgrade kits. Probably the only model in the current necron line up (barring special characters) that likely could do with a new kit.
Though as the core is already in plastic I suspect it might be a long while before they get a new kit.
So part of me wants to sit on the fence with these. But I'm also open to suggestions for any good conversions. I've already seen one using an old spydr and lord to create a very good looking (in my view) destroyer lord
https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/858217272713993066/ Quite affordable too, provided I can get hold of the old spydr as I can use a lord from a getting started kit
Which makes a very good looking stalker for anyone on budget or after a different look. Indeed the wraith kit seems to have a lot of conversion potential and there's loads of designs out there (inverted ones made into scorpion style spiders etc..)
Tesseract Vault
Spoiler:
Having seen a few videos I'm not as enthralled with magnetizing this kit. Whilst it certainly increases its value as a player and also makes it easier to transport in its closed form; it also, to my eye, seems to be one of those "it works bit it's going to be unstable"
conversions unless one goes in and converts the linkage up. I'm also not a fan of parts sliding on each other all the time on the main sides, which to my mind will just wear the paint under those spots (again could be fixed but would require more work to convert new magnet slots and to hide the join area.
Monolith
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Most conversions for this seem to be adding more detail as it is one of the oldest plastic kits for the range made way back before GW were seriously good with fine detail plastics. It certainly pales in comparison to the Vault in terms of detail. Still not landed on any ideas that really stand out to me so I might just keep it as-is
So there's the end, a good chunk of simple and a few more complex conversion to give the army a bit of a unique flavour and look compared to the core. As at the start I'd welcome any suggestions/ideas/input/guides that people have. By all means use this thread to post up ideas of your own conversions.
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Probably a long while before I pick any up, but when I do I'll likely cover the cockpit. The FW part used in the bomber would be ideal, though likely impossible to get hold of. So instead I've seen people use two segments of the wraith back/body to cover over. A bit of greenstuff around the edges and it should make for a good cover.
https://bonecron.blogspot.co.uk/2015/08/nightdoom-scythe-conversion-mkii.html
I always thought this guy had the covered up cockpit thing going really well:
These are a tricky one for me. I don't dislike the model, at the same time I'm not overly fond of them. I also dislike how they are still using the clear-plastic gause weapons; plus how GW decided to oddly split them up into plastic kits and rather expensive resin upgrade kits. Probably the only model in the current necron line up (barring special characters) that likely could do with a new kit. Though as the core is already in plastic I suspect it might be a long while before they get a new kit. So part of me wants to sit on the fence with these. But I'm also open to suggestions for any good conversions. I've already seen one using an old spydr and lord to create a very good looking (in my view) destroyer lord https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/858217272713993066/ Quite affordable too, provided I can get hold of the old spydr as I can use a lord from a getting started kit
As for heavy destroyers, there are guides out there on how to glue together two segments of the Immortal Gauss Blaster. They make a nice heavy gauss cannon, only don't do that, use 3 segments instead! The immortal/deathmark kit is an awesome source of extra arms, hands, weapons, etc. you will probably have several blasters lying around.
Attached is mine. Love it. Magnetized so I can swap for the smaller gauss cannon.
Automatically Appended Next Post: (Its there with the original GW heavy destroyer upgrade kit, just to show how much more awesome the conversion is!)
Not sure if I'll magnetize these or not. I've found a guide that makes it possible to magnetize the whip arms, but not sure until I hold the model and see how they are to work with before I make a choice on this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qV_KTQp1YKI
I tried magnetizing wraiths like this, and found it to be great! The magnets in the claws keeps the plastic bits snapped tight, meaning they now bear the weight of the whip coils or claws instead of the magnets themselves. Very sturdy. You can hold the wraith model by the whipcoil and shake it and it wont let go.
I also magnetized the belly weapon option, but was only partially happy with my solution there, i can post more some other time if you go down that route too.
(Only sucks that the whipcoils isn't really viable anymore)
These are a tricky one for me. I don't dislike the model, at the same time I'm not overly fond of them. I also dislike how they are still using the clear-plastic gause weapons; plus how GW decided to oddly split them up into plastic kits and rather expensive resin upgrade kits. Probably the only model in the current necron line up (barring special characters) that likely could do with a new kit. Though as the core is already in plastic I suspect it might be a long while before they get a new kit. So part of me wants to sit on the fence with these. But I'm also open to suggestions for any good conversions. I've already seen one using an old spydr and lord to create a very good looking (in my view) destroyer lord https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/858217272713993066/ Quite affordable too, provided I can get hold of the old spydr as I can use a lord from a getting started kit
Canoptek Tomb Sentinel/stalker
As for the destroyer lord, the destroyer platform and fluff lends itself easily to all kinds of conversions, and there are myriads out there. Some good, some bad, but they all look like great fun to work on! I guess you can easily achieve quite good/professional looking results with the commonly available necron bits from kits.
I'm not overly happy with the outcome, although it has potential, and have put it on pause till I find the right direction to move it in. Currently I'm looking at way to add cables to the arms to make them more muscular. It should ooze with raw power, but my arms are too thin and slender, especially with those big shoulder armor pieces.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Also you forgot Flayed Ones! They are one of the most fun conversions of all!
Essentially like this:
1) grab some of your left over warrior kits
2) Cut the legs of the warrior bodies at the hips, rotate them and glue them back on to create more forward bent poses.
3) Cut knife blades from plasticard.
4) Find spare hands from the aforemention Immortal kit (should give you 10 extra pairs or so from the 2 extra weapon options each complete with a set of hands)
5) Glue the plasticard knifes to the hands, use pins if need be to make them sturdier.
6) Prime and paint in metallic
7) Use vaseline and greenstuff and a blank rollerpin to create thin slices of skin and dress them up!
Torblind - that's a neat design for the Doom flier and gets the cover more flush to the hull. If I tried that though I'd likely try a different design of filler to look more techno with the necron.
Interestin to hear that the magnets work well with the wraiths. I'm sure that the whipcoils might well become more viable in the new year as, based on the lack of much content in Chapter Approved, it would seem Necrons are in good standing for a new codex early next year (and if its anything like the new Tyranid a lot of options should become viable choices).
The tripple gause cannon design looks better than I thought it would when you suggested it. I had considered simply using two gause weapons of double barrel length, one in each arm.
And yes I forgot the flayed ones! Looks like you had a lot of fun with yours. Not sure how I'll tackle mine; considering they are still finecast I'm half tempted to wait and see if GW release a new kit for them and see how they look (the current ones look bloody but also a little silly with one piggy-backing a corpse)
It would be awesome to have plastic flayed ones. The sole rason I decided to make mine from warriors, was that I just try to avoid the finecast resin whenever I can. And I had at least 20 unneeded warriors lying around.
I don't mind the silllyness that much, this is essentially the only place in the entire army list that we can put some "silly" into it. (They are crazy after all), but yeah, that piggy back corpse takes some getting used to
I also the Tesseract Vault magnetization, and as you say, its unstable. I asked idicbeer (who videod himself magnetizing one) what he felt one year after, but he claims his one is working just fine.
I only ever played mine once, and had to glue one of the ends to make it work.
I will go for bigger, stronger magnets next time, cylinder shaped for extra length, to magnetize those cables.
On the lychguard, I always hated that their shield was optional, so instead of doing that back ridge I slapped a magnet into that little pin hole and one into the orb just above where the arm goes.. Now whenever I'm using the warscythes I can just slap their shields on their backs. Can't really see their hands and their best looking bit is now a permanent part of them. Also doesn't look too bad when you take the shield off. Never liked the look of that raised spine anyway. Just make sure the magnet clears all the features on their backs. Need a kinda tall magnet for that.
I think I get what Merk means. The shield has a magnet just above the hand so it can be stuck to the back of the unit when the unit is equipped with shields; then when they are not equipped with shields you just remove them and leave the unit as is. So the Shield is never held in hand, but is held behind the unit.
Tor - I think to make a stable vault it would likely require some customising of the structure; adding in parts to give it a bit more to hold it stable when magnetizing for it being opened up. That said the chances of ever using two Obelisks or two Vaults in the same game, outside of apoc, is (IMO) likely low. So one could easily have two models each assembled as one option.
I magnatized everything so I could go sword and board or scythe. All in hand. The shield on the back is more for flavor when they have their warscythes though I guess you could just have their shields on their backs while using the sword provided you can find a left hand for 4 of them. Here are some pictures I took after I finished them. Never mind my eh paint job. These are only my...16-20ith models I've ever done? I'm a filthy newb to mini painting.
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Yeah. Especially spindily necron wrists. I got some expierence sculpting green stuff on these guys. Wish I had used my immortals to learn on
Automatically Appended Next Post: Bah, forum keeps eating most of my last response. I've been magnetizing my immortals too. Only problem is that tubeing going from their spine to the gun. So far that's the only problem anyway. The build is still young. Anyway, what I've done to solve that tube problem is cut it off and twist some metal electrical wire or jewelry making wire into a single wider piece. Drilled out the spine and glued one end in there. Going to glue the end together then pop a magnet into that orb on the end of the guns. You may not want to use it for this specificly but so far it doesn't look too bad. You could use the same trick on like a severed limb or to replace any necron tubeing if the look seemed appropriate.
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Sounds like you're putting loads of work in your necron - be good to get a blog or blog style thread up of yours to document all your converting work. A few step by steps for those who want to go all out with magnets and to also show what's possible.
Hah. Well I dunno about that. But thanks for the compliment. I basically do what I do by just throwing a ton of time into everything. And I'm still a super newb. Like those lychguard. They took a week at 5-10 hours a day, Maybe more. And I would have done a lot of things differently if I had to do it over. Besides, I'm basically out of material XD
