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Why, and why not for what ever option you cast your precious meaningful patriotic vote for.

Thanks all.

When I get back to the UK in October, yes. I'll not be painting any minis using Contrast exclusively, mind, but they will be another tool in the toolbox for achieving certain effects. Aethermatic Blue over white for plasma coils and jump-pack exhausts, for example. I'm also keen to try them on hair, fur and other highly textured parts of models as a possibly quicker and better-looking alternative to drybrushing.

Yes I expect so. They look useful. I don't get a lot of painting time so anything that helps me get a decent tabletop standard quicker sounds good to me.

I'm curious - you seem quite biased against them (called them junk in a previous thread) but also admitted you hadn't used them and didn't seem to know what they were / how they worked. What's that about?

I bought some to try but as I am mainly painting Marines at the moment they just don’t work that well. The effect you get with them just looks scruffy/messy and ultimately with having to tidy up they are not any quicker.

Now if I was painting sylvanith, nids or beast men than I think they would be great, ultimately I think that they are not the cure all GW advertised but on certain armies they will be very good.

Picked up Darkoath Fesh and Blood Angles Red. Would have grabbed a Snakebite Leather last weekend, but the FLGS was sold out.

Washes and glazes have always been a major part of my paint style. These are just more arrows in the quiver of that technique. I’m not buying the Contrast Paint system, with the everything over whiteish base, quick and easy paintjobs. I’m using them to add depth to fabrics without mixing 3 paints, and helping give more to faces without a lot of work.

Yeah, I am with Nevelon. I bought them as additional tools. Not the "wash and done" BS they are trying to sell.

Wash and Done looks like crap. The contrasts don't work as advertised in a lot of ways except on living things/soft things/fabric.

However, i was never a fan of pure painting by wash over zential. Never liked the style or the results.

I just really need one or two more, black being one of them. I find you need to use at least 2 different colors to get the desired richness.

I DO love the intensity of their pigment. It really "tints" and that is a POWERFUL tool. How many people know that an Aqua Wash over blue has a striking effect on the end result. Or that Nazdreg Yellow can turn a pre-highlighted silver into a brassy look when done right.

There is a lot of use for the contrasts because 1- they stay where you put them and 2- they tint better than any paint or ink I've found outside of the artists inks and those still work differently.

Oh and you can thin them with water and they work like the old INKs that we all used and love.

Started painting my gloomspite gitz with contrast and within 5 minutes I knew I liked them. Just gotta work on brush control now so I can be less messy

I already have some. Mostly browns, but also yellow. I don't look down on the one thick coat approach to get a painted model, but that style isn't for me and I like them more for painting specific effects as part of the painting process.

 meatybtz wrote:
I DO love the intensity of their pigment. It really "tints" and that is a POWERFUL tool.

That's where it's really at for me. Tinting and tying together a preshaded base is my favorite application of Contrast paints. The intensity of the paint allows you to skip on the neatness of the base layers, and having a single coat of Contrast do such a great job of it saves time and effort while producing a good effect.

 Geifer wrote:
I already have some. Mostly browns, but also yellow. I don't look down on the one thick coat approach to get a painted model, but that style isn't for me and I like them more for painting specific effects as part of the painting process.

 meatybtz wrote:
I DO love the intensity of their pigment. It really "tints" and that is a POWERFUL tool.

That's where it's really at for me. Tinting and tying together a preshaded base is my favorite application of Contrast paints. The intensity of the paint allows you to skip on the neatness of the base layers, and having a single coat of Contrast do such a great job of it saves time and effort while producing a good effect.

Agreed. The color intensity of Contrast Paints and their lack of 'fogging' in crevices makes them superior to most regular washes, especially if you use a touch of Contrast Medium to reduce any mottling on larger surfaces.

This question is problematic. I voted no because I don't expect to be buying any more contrast paints.

However, I DID buy at least 5 bottles of Contrast paints to test them out. I decided they are a neat product but they're really not for me. They will be a godsend for someone painting a giant horde who needs to turn them out in time for a tournament, I imagine, but that's not me and won't ever be.

So I did buy them, and will keep playing around with what I have, but based upon what I have seen so far they don't really do anything for me that I need so won't buy any further.

I *intend* to buy some in the future. I haven’t yet.

I already use a wet-over-white technique, and if this makes getting a consistently thinned paint easier/quicker then I’d be a happy camper.

Bought some on release, really enjoy using them and some have snuck into my normal painting practise now. They're not the best thing since sliced bread but for furs and bones, it's just what I need.

Contrast medium is pretty good too if you're interested in different effects.

No.

Aside from Druchii Violet and Ceramite White, I don't do Citadel paint.

I've considered buying some, to do 3 Minotaurs with black skin/fur and 22 Space Hulk Genestealers.


However I'm not rushing to buy them.

I don't trust the results in my hands, and I can't afford to throw away or box £20+ of paint!

I highly doubt my local GW store would let me go there with a Space Hulk Genestealer and one of the Minotaurs and sit down and try out the contrast range...

I bought Terradon Turquoise and Nazdreg Yellow to try them out, and I also see them as a nice tool in addition to the usual colors.
The Nazdreg Yellow helps me get satisfying results on the shirts of my guardsmen, were I always struggle using the usual approach with Base, Shade, Layer, which is really nice, while I paint the rest of the Minis without contrast.
And with the Terradon Turquoise I hat some really cool results applying it on metal, which I was not able to achieve before (I'm far from professional regarding painting).

I will definitly buy some more, especially for the combination on metal basing, since I really like the results of that. And maybe also something to get more smooth results on some red fabric on my minis.

No, because as neat as they may be I don't really like the prices of most hobby paints, and I also already own a ton of acrylic paints that work just fine for me.

I've already bought the entire set. Yet to have a chance to try them out as I've been busy moving premises. Likely to do a bunch of zombies I have already built and primed black, and also likely to use them in place of oils on an Adeptus Titanicus commission.

They had me at Snakebite Leather.

I did, but I regret it. It's an entirely new system to learn, great for beginners and experts can pull off some really amazing things with them, but I'm somewhere between the two and just cant make them work.

 Gulgog TufToof wrote:
They had me at Snakebite Leather.

When my FLGS was out of the new Snakebite Leather, I just dragged out my old pot, and used one of the new flesh washes on top. Snakebite was doing the contrast paint thing before it was cool, just by not covering worth a damn.

Before and after the Darkoath Flesh (over white primer)



I still want a pot of the new contrast Snakebite. Makeing do until then...

Nope, not gonna buy them. I'm not the target consumer. I don't find anything special about them, they are a heavy wash as much as I can see.
Being a "contrast" paint it doesn't preduce that much contrast, also the result is pretty messy on the flat surface.

The pigment is the most expensive part of the paint, it's just crazy that a heavy wash lika a contrast paint, which is mostly medium, costs that much.

1 contrast paint(18ml) costs more than 2 Vallejo Model Color (17ml) paints.

No, not because I dislike the idea or am any sort of painting purest...I just have all the paint I need at the moment.

My two cents,

CB

Yes, absolutely. I picked up a wraithbone spray, and bottles of Black templar, skeleton horde and wraithbone. Very fast way to paint ravenwing and deathwing for the Apocalypse game that is coming soon.

I picked up a bunch of them, and they're really good. Makes it easy to do clothing on my guys, and you can do cool colored metallic effects with them.

It's a NO for me. As much as I like the concept, I already have all the paints and techniques I need to paint and don't have any large projects planned.

I can also achieve a similar (enough) affect by mixing a layer paint with Lamehian Medium. So even if I did eventually have a bigger project, I'd just get another pot of LM and mix the colors I need as I go.

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Big no for me - but I gave in and bought them to "try them out"

I will not buy them again

Crispy78 wrote:
Yes I expect so. They look useful. I don't get a lot of painting time so anything that helps me get a decent tabletop standard quicker sounds good to me.

I'm curious - you seem quite biased against them (called them junk in a previous thread) but also admitted you hadn't used them and didn't seem to know what they were / how they worked. What's that about?

Because i don't see any difference at all if you compare it to regular base paint from GW, all i see is thinned down regular paint, which IMO is nothing special and hardly useful unless you like spending extra money for thinner paint.

Sorry for a very very very late reply i have been away.


Thanks,

Stormatious.


EDIT - Am i incorrect in my statement regarding contrast paints?, because i am yet to see how, but im not an expert or any thing, infact im noob so i don't know but this is just my feelings.

I won't be getting any contrast paints, i have been painting with the old system for a long time and i don't think you can accomplish greatness with one coat of contrast

Contrast isn’t for greatness. Contrast is for *speed* and hasn’t been presented as anything but.

But is it worth spending the extra for thinned paint when you can spend less and possibly get the same amount or more thinning down the regular base paints on your own.

If i need to make a glaze or a thinned down paint, i just put a dab of regular base paint on the pallet, then add a drop of water and there all done.


EDIT - Its like this, with regular paint you get regular paint + thinned paint. With contrast you only get thinned to a certain thinness paint.