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So, they retain the ability to hover and land/take off vertically?

Name: F-90 Stingers

Color pattern: Yellow with black markings

Military grey all the way

I would advise against painting all your Navy fliers the same scheme, since it's fluff-likely that Navy Wings are comprised entirely of the same type of aircraft, so your force will have all originated from different wings. Tbolts from a fighter wing, Marauders from a bomber wing, etc. Mine are all part of the same crusade fleet, and they are all supporting my Catachans, so they all have been painted for the Jungle/woodland theatre, but not all identically.

 dsteingass wrote:
I would advise against painting all your Navy fliers the same scheme, since it's fluff-likely that Navy Wings are comprised entirely of the same type of aircraft, so your force will have all originated from different wings. Tbolts from a fighter wing, Marauders from a bomber wing, etc. Mine are all part of the same crusade fleet, and they are all supporting my Catachans, so they all have been painted for the Jungle/woodland theatre, but not all identically.

This is the plan. The idea is that the ship was sent to escort a Magos to an abandoned solar system, chasing after an STC. Much of the ship's complement is made up of dignitaries, functionaries, as well as Imperial Guard in dress uniforms, and one of the Imperial Navy's "show" squadrons. The ship gets stuck in The Warp, and emerges a couple hundred years later, the fleet mostly scattered, etc.

This means I have a mix of wings, as stuff gets consolidated, and squadron survivors are mashed up. And then there's an ongoing war of attrition, as they take, and then try and hold the solar system against various incursions.

I would go with military gray or dirty white, like Star Wars ships. It would also be cool to have all kinds of unit markings, numbers,nose art like pin up girls etc on your ships! Think hobby shops actually sell decals for this, or online. These details would really add character to your navy ships

The problem with pinup art and such is that there is rarely large, flat surfaces. Even on the V-Hull imperial flyers, you have to do some work (removing steps, etc) to make room. And I don't like having pinup art on only one side of the nose.

I am leaning toward my shuttles being Military Gray, since I will have a pair of Arvus Lighters and an Aquila Lander.

Momentary, pointless grumble: Almost all flyers are classified as "Fast Attack". This is logical, but makes it difficult to field a 40K-scale Air Force.

Yeah, I bet most of the back-line ships are mostly grey. I'd wager that Munitorum Grey, Mechanicus, and Navy Grey are the same. The Last Chancers novels always referred to the grey fatigues and shotguns of the Navy Ratings on board the ships in those stories.

 Briancj wrote:
The problem with pinup art and such is that there is rarely large, flat surfaces. Even on the V-Hull imperial flyers, you have to do some work (removing steps, etc) to make room. And I don't like having pinup art on only one side of the nose.

I am leaning toward my shuttles being Military Gray, since I will have a pair of Arvus Lighters and an Aquila Lander.

Momentary, pointless grumble: Almost all flyers are classified as "Fast Attack". This is logical, but makes it difficult to field a 40K-scale Air Force.

Well, depending how uneven the surface detail is, some decal setting solution will help decals fit into crevices, around curves etc. something every modeler should have in their toolkit. But yeah I see what you're saying about those models, they're kinda small and crammed with uneven surfaces.

 Briancj wrote:

Momentary, pointless grumble: Almost all flyers are classified as "Fast Attack". This is logical, but makes it difficult to field a 40K-scale Air Force.

Pssst, you have to play an Elysian army

 Vitruvian XVII wrote:

 Briancj wrote:

Momentary, pointless grumble: Almost all flyers are classified as "Fast Attack". This is logical, but makes it difficult to field a 40K-scale Air Force.

Pssst, you have to play an Elysian army

he has a point.

I'd say one of the Arvii should be pimped out for dignitary shuttling, military grey for a majority of the craft, a few more intersting schemes scattered about.

Hi Brian,

I've missed alot of this, but I love those 'Storm Claw' Conversions.

They really remind me of StarScreen from Transformers for some reason...Can't wait to see them painted up. I also vote for scheme 3.

D

 Cave_Dweller wrote:

 Briancj wrote:
The problem with pinup art and such is that there is rarely large, flat surfaces. Even on the V-Hull imperial flyers, you have to do some work (removing steps, etc) to make room. And I don't like having pinup art on only one side of the nose.

I am leaning toward my shuttles being Military Gray, since I will have a pair of Arvus Lighters and an Aquila Lander.

Momentary, pointless grumble: Almost all flyers are classified as "Fast Attack". This is logical, but makes it difficult to field a 40K-scale Air Force.

Well, depending how uneven the surface detail is, some decal setting solution will help decals fit into crevices, around curves etc. something every modeler should have in their toolkit. But yeah I see what you're saying about those models, they're kinda small and crammed with uneven surfaces.

I can assure you that microsol and microset have been a part of my arsenal since...ever, really. But it is the greeblies on the model that really put a dent into the affair. I will probably buy a bunch of random 1:48th scale decal sheets off of eBay or from Microscale, and use those to really 'kit out' the Navy Flyers.

Everybody always wants nose-art, but no-one can ever offer any suggestions on how to pull that off. Brian is right, there's just no damn room on Imperial Fliers.

Someone wanted me to do shark teeth on my stormraven for my space sharks

here is what a blue arvus vtol conversion looks like:

I'm not sure why the sudden switch to the VTOL thing, All the Imperial Fliers already have Vector Thrusters, and they could hover before too, but that is a cool conversion.

 dsteingass wrote:
I'm not sure why the sudden switch to the VTOL thing, All the Imperial Fliers already have Vector Thrusters, and they could hover before too, but that is a cool conversion.

VTOL is a throwback fluffwise to before the great crusade, anything that uses the old VTOL tech is that old, or has its foot in the past lols.

I think you mean anti-grav tech Childe, that has been basically lost to time (except for cherubs, servitors, or servo-skulls)
VTOL fans are 20/21st century tech.

The old Stormbirds are relics from the unification wars on Terra, back then they used VTOL. hence the description of the Stormbirds and the pics floating around from RT. I'll agree on the anti-grav as well though, so much stuff as been lost through millennia of the Imperium.

Wow. I'm going to have to pick up some Flyers and some anti-aircraft before we play again. I am mostly Light Infantry w/ a bit of Armor support, I have nothing in the skies.

Gahh. More money to spend and more modeling time that isn't terrain.

Or... snapfire Autocannons for everyone! Whoo!

 Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:
Wow. I'm going to have to pick up some Flyers and some anti-aircraft before we play again. I am mostly Light Infantry w/ a bit of Armor support, I have nothing in the skies.

Gahh. More money to spend and more modeling time that isn't terrain.

Or... snapfire Autocannons for everyone! Whoo!

or flying monstrous creatures to vector strike down other flyers.

hey brian...just for your information...

silveroxide is making some...well you can´t really call it conversions as he is building them from scratch and paper ... stormtalons to look very interesting afterwards when he is finished... his recent build is a transformation from flyer to walker... you should check this out:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/60/479534.page#4898273


cheers, vik

 Viktor von Domm wrote:
hey brian...just for your information...

silveroxide is making some...well you can´t really call it conversions as he is building them from scratch and paper ... stormtalons to look very interesting afterwards when he is finished... his recent build is a transformation from flyer to walker... you should check this out:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/60/479534.page#4898273


cheers, vik

Saw it, and commented on the thread.

Thanks, Vik!

 Briancj wrote:
Well, they're smaller than I expected. Not a lot of interior detail, and 12 men need to be very, very friendly. But they're mine!

I would love to know where you got them from, or how you made them, if you did it yourself...

Ah, just realised they are the full price Forge World ones.

£58 quid is a tad too much for something worth so few points...

Fifty, you are assuming that gaming is everyone's primary concern for purchasing models.. There is no precedence whatsoever in the history of GW to make the assumption that points value is somehow related to kit pricing.

 Fifty wrote:

£58 quid is a tad too much for something worth so few points...

I can assure you, I paid far less for the two of them.

So, uhm. I, clearly, have a problem. I'm addicted to salvaging discarded Valkyries. I mean, really. Just LOOK at this one.



Sigh.

I also picked up some more terrain for my starfort. NO, I will not be 'salvaging' this.



The vulture conversion kit arrived...



And here's some stuff from Secret Weapon. Mmmmm, Soft Body Black, Flight Stands, and some more Pith Helmet Heads...



See?

Not dead, only over-worked, over-stressed.

--B.

You know, I picked a couple of those stands for Thing 1's Necrons, but I found they don't work for the Necron flyers. I made the mistake of having them drill the hole which is in the wrong place for the Scythes (not their fault), but the base of the Scythes don't really sit. flat... so I may have a couple extra of those. Nice idea... just doesn't work well with what I've been working on. Might be OK with some of the other flyers though... Be interested to see how yours end up & if you like them.

 Gitsplitta wrote:
You know, I picked a couple of those stands for Thing 1's Necrons, but I found they don't work for the Necron flyers. I made the mistake of having them drill the hole which is in the wrong place for the Scythes (not their fault), but the base of the Scythes don't really sit. flat... so I may have a couple extra of those. Nice idea... just doesn't work well with what I've been working on. Might be OK with some of the other flyers though... Be interested to see how yours end up & if you like them.

I bought them because they're good for any flyer where you can put the 'hole' in the center-of-mass of your flyer. Which is what Valkyries and their variants are all about. I can see where the Necron Flyer, having a mount point at the BACK of the model, would not work well with these stands.