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2013/06/03 08:43:21
Subject: July White Dwarf Apocalypse reedition rumour
H.B.M.C. wrote: the fact that it [...] opens up and all sorts of unknowable technology inside.
Yeah, that's what I found coolest about it.
Just imagine the conversion potential there, both for serious and funny conversions!
I'm going to put my neck out and say the kit, assuming it isn't some sort of conversion of course, will have alternative builds, but won't transform.
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The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
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See, you're trying to use people logic. DM uses Mandelogic, which we've established has 2+2=quack. - Aerethan
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2013/06/03 08:55:15
Subject: July White Dwarf Apocalypse reedition rumour
We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
But yeah, I doubt the Monolith is a "transformer", it probably just has different configs. I'm sure there's a reason it opens. I just hope it's not a Monolith and is some sort of special one. I imagine a big Apoc formation with 4 Monoliths and one of those hovering in the centre would be awesome.
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I see here there's an alternative right arm called the Doom Burner.
Spoiler:
Replacing the sword arm with that would go a long way to making it look better imo.
Might have looked a little more, I don't know, retro, if they had kept the original's two large front wheels as well (the conversion mind brews).
So we have a main gun that can't be aimed or adjusted, a main cc arm that can't reach the floor and a drive so slow that anyone can run away or shoot him from afar. Yeah, some old concepts should rest in peace.
Oh, and it seems the new Monolith has 4 Skeletor gun turrets.
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It has a lot of Khornate bits, but I still wonder whether it would actually be a kit to be customised with different god-specific parts. Making this huge and expensive kit and tying it to a specific chaos god seems like a bad sales strategy.
Also; I've figured out what I don't like at it besides it being tank-centaur. The upper body is too human shaped. I'd prefer if it looked hunched like Decimator and Contemptor. Ie. more terminator like torso/head arrangement. Arms could look more mechanical too, now they look just like upscaled power armour arms.
Crimson wrote: It has a lot of Khornate bits, but I still wonder whether it would actually be a kit to be customised with different god-specific parts.
It has some Slaanesh parts for the main gun, but we can't show them here
I would imagine from GW's point of view they expect most Chaos players to be more toward the undivided Chaos format, thus buying all types of new goodies and not worrying about the four individual Gods.
I suspect, that solo God players are much fewer and far between than years past. Also if you look at what this was based on, Epic. Then the war machines tended to being focused on the four aspects in their own way.
Sadly it means if you are a Solo Slaanesh player, don't expect a lot, and not much more for Tzeentch players either.
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2013/06/03 10:19:14
Subject: July White Dwarf Apocalypse reedition rumour
Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote: Sadly it means if you are a Solo Slaanesh player, don't expect a lot
Don't worry, Slaanesh players are used to getting shafted.
See, you're trying to use people logic. DM uses Mandelogic, which we've established has 2+2=quack. - Aerethan
Putin.....would make a Vulcan Intelligence officer cry. - Jihadin
AFAIK, there is only one world, and it is the real world. - Iron_Captain
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TFOL and proud. Also a Forge World Fan.
I should really paint some of my models instead of browsing forums.
2013/06/03 10:29:35
Subject: Re:July White Dwarf Apocalypse reedition rumour
Alkasyn wrote: I don't know a lot more, but I added a pic I found to the OP:
I don't recognise the top left piece of terrain, I've built most kits (except the recent wall of martyrs) could it be a new one?
NM I thought you said right.
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2013/06/03 10:34:36
Subject: July White Dwarf Apocalypse reedition rumour
Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote: I would imagine from GW's point of view they expect most Chaos players to be more toward the undivided Chaos format, thus buying all types of new goodies and not worrying about the four individual Gods.
I suspect, that solo God players are much fewer and far between than years past. Also if you look at what this was based on, Epic. Then the war machines tended to being focused on the four aspects in their own way.
Sadly it means if you are a Solo Slaanesh player, don't expect a lot, and not much more for Tzeentch players either.
Silver Towers would maybe actually make me start wanting to finally do a Tzeentch Army. Then I'd see the Lore of Change psyker powers and start vomiting again.
So anyone have a wishlist of things they want to see? I'm hoping Tau finally get a flying transport or maybe a new HH turret. Something to give them back long range anti-tank. Everything else for Tau is too small to fit the Apoc concept. Vespids and Sniper Drones will have to wait for a new Citystrike, if ever.
2013/06/03 10:38:27
Subject: July White Dwarf Apocalypse reedition rumour
Sadly, if someone was pulling a hoax, I think the model would have been nicer...
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We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
To all those bitching at this model: what the feth? At the end of the day, everyone has their own unique opinion and tastes, but come on. People are complaining that it's too 'hardcore' or over-the-top. You know what you're talking about, right? Look at the kind of people the Chaos Marines are. This represents them perfectly. It fits with everything else they have perfectly. You can't say this is over-the-top and not say everything else is. Death is all they're about, so how the feth can you not expect skulls? The skull specific part at the front is a nice design anyway. It is the perfect symbol at the front of a big, feth off machine of death.
2013/06/03 10:53:15
Subject: July White Dwarf Apocalypse reedition rumour
*takes the top half of the Khornate thing
*removes bottom half
*puts top half on Wraithknight legs in hecka cool pose
*make Wraithknight legs more bulky and Khorne-y
* Now I have m a model that looks good.
Then I use the bottom half with two Skull Cannons of Khorne with a giant portal on top for daemons to assault out of.
2013/06/03 10:54:28
Subject: July White Dwarf Apocalypse reedition rumour
Inspectah Cax wrote: To all those bitching at this model: what the feth? At the end of the day, everyone has their own unique opinion and tastes, but come on. People are complaining that it's too 'hardcore' or over-the-top. You know what you're talking about, right? Look at the kind of people the Chaos Marines are. This represents them perfectly. It fits with everything else they have perfectly. You can't say this is over-the-top and not say everything else is. Death is all they're about, so how the feth can you not expect skulls? The skull specific part at the front is a nice design anyway. It is the perfect symbol at the front of a big, feth off machine of death.
Er, are you reading a different thread to the rest of us?
Skulls = Khorne, so no problems there.
Hardcore (don't recall anyone using that word, but ok) would be fine as well. Over the top is a given for most things 40K, so again no problem with that.
The only reason it 'fits perfectly' with the rest of the CSM image is because they've been recently overhauled to look like derpy kids toys too.
It's a poor concept, badly realised. Actually, if anything, if they'd kept with the more animalistic, zoid-y look of the recent releases that would be more in keeping with the old Epic model and would probably have looked better! Here's hoping for an alternative head at least.
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McNinja wrote: *takes the top half of the Khornate thing
*removes bottom half
*puts top half on Wraithknight legs in hecka cool pose
*make Wraithknight legs more bulky and Khorne-y
* Now I have m a model that looks good.
Then I use the bottom half with two Skull Cannons of Khorne with a giant portal on top for daemons to assault out of.
You forgot
*realises he has spent a fortune on models to get something workable and do GWs job for them.
* cries
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We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
These necrons look like the necrons from the eldar white dwarf battlereport.
The monoliths will cause a lot of QQ when someone has to sneeze during an apoc game when they fall onto your opponents painted models. Very wobbly ... dont know what to make out of them.
If it is the death dealer which is what it looks like it should have some imense rules should be more than good in close combat carry at least 30 troops and be able to mince alot of troops or light armour in short range shooting. Plus have a weapon for medium to long range anti tank. More importantly it should be extremely well armoured
surprised if this is a real gw product they went this way thought they may have went the slaneesh knights or scout titans given the sudden large walkers of tau and eldar ahh have missed the old epic lol look slike I may get all the cool epic stuff back
To behonest I dont think this is real at all so wouldnt get my hopes up
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2013/06/03 11:29:56
Subject: July White Dwarf Apocalypse reedition rumour
So far, from the front shot I really like the kit. I can't wait to see it from different angles to get a better idea of scale and length. The Megaliths are pretty cool as well. Looking forward to seeing what else is coming for APOC 2.0
I wounder what the price point will be for such a huge kit.
Da Blitza Boyz! (Orks) 70% painted.
