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Post by: monkeytroll
vik - You have to keep the elementals happy by referencing them now and again
I'm liking the little shack myself, a few more of those I feel. And now available with full range of details, see below.
Wow, no criticism? Must be doing something right  Always happy to hear your critique vik, blunt or otherwise.
graven - Unfortunately pulling apart some old PS memory cards wasn't as fruitful. I'm sure they'll turn up somewhere though. Old sony cam next maybe?
Hmm, armoured up bus-stop? What would a 40k bus-shelter look like?
Probably wouldn't have them out in the slum-hive area? I'll think on that...but turning an old hive shack into a grot-bus-stop? That might need less research
So, finished up the shack:
Shots were taken prior to another scrub of the rust powder on the roof - that's a little less stark a transition now.
Awaiting a supply drop that surprisingly contains just GW product. The hurricanum - that orrerory looks like it might be nice on top of a silo. Or if not, it's bits will  Looks like a lovely kit, only thing I can't see a real use for are the horses - but I'll see what parts they come in before writing them off. Also a battlewagon, other peeps seem to have some lovely pieces from that kit. Some savage boar-boys, both for cyber-boars and to get some naked ork torsos. And a talos, because there's lots of interesting looking painful bits in that kit too.
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Post by: SelvaggioSaky
Love the Grot Shack mate!
I can't wait to see what You put together with the new supply drop.
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Post by: weetyskemian44
Its rusty so I like it.
rusty, ramshackle, rustic and ruinous
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Post by: lone dirty dog
Nice shack reminds me of our holiday home  no it looks really cool nice little piece
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
owww....!
i considered that shack finished even the last time... now it looks even more amazing! more rust and even more sweet lil details!
where did that toolbox come from? did you scratchbuilt it? i need that too... definatly^^ that will be included somehow for a new project methinks^^
i think i will later on garantee you more blunt responses if you ask for that
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Post by: monkeytroll
Selvaggio - Cheers! You're going to have to wait though  I'm still waiting for the drop myself.
weety - Glad you approve Your Rustiness
ldd - You had a roof on your holiday room? You lucky bugger. We had a sheet of newspaper to share between 16 of us.....
vik - Thanks man! The tool box was from some Imperial vehicle - possibly one of the baneblade sprues?
Nothing much going on in the workshop at the moment - some minor bits and pieces on terrain, and some planning for an idea I've had for Klub Grottz.
Also played with a few concepts for bike/kopta/? ideas.
At first I was thinking of some kind of trike:
Again, these are just rough 'sketches' in plastic, just trying out concepts - there's no attempt at detailing or use of correct bits
The original idea was actually for little tracks at the front, rather than wheels - but I couldn't find the set I was looking for. I don't think the wheels cut it so I'll have to mock-up some to get a feel for how that looks too.
Although that was the idea I was first going to try out when I started picking up bits I actually came up with this one:
Those servo-grots have been watching too many Thunderbolt fighter fly-pasts  This one I like and will certainly be exploring further
After I'd finished zooming the grot-fighta around a bit, and tried out the bike look I realised it might work out for another idea I've been thinking on:
And I think that works pretty well too. I spy some cheap model kits being bought in the near future
I'm hoping I'll be able to sort my land-line out in a couple of weeks, this is painful - taken about 2 hours to post this
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Post by: dsteingass
HOLY CRAP!!
1. The shack is amazing! I have been wondering how well wood and metal would look together, and you have aced it man! So full of charachter and little extras!
2. The use of the X-wing (is that the ERTL snap-tite kit? 0r a toy?) is ingenious! - I think you mUST build the Grot T-bolt though....you have no choice, it is your destiny!!
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
that poor old x-wing...^^
we have that kit at home too...but my kids are totally on the star wars trip now so i wouldnae be able to use that^^
to be honest the first version lacks on so many levels...the only thing that looks good is the rider...his position seems right...the rest is less then the sum of its parts
the second version i actually like pretty much... convincing look...tho will a grot fit in?
as for the third version... i like the underslung gun look... same goes for the jetpacks...but the current rotor in the rear looks wonky...
and ...thanks monkey...i have to see at a bitz site if i can get that!
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Post by: dsteingass
The huuge, noisy exhaust pipes are awesome! I can't stop looking at the Grot-bolt, I picture a grot with goggles grinning as wide as he can at the marvelous noise it makes!
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
^that!
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Post by: lone dirty dog
The grot bolt looks great indeed and the Zinge exhausts work great, I always looked at those star wars snap fits and was wondering on the scale now i know
Great idea and looks spot on but go with the wings
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
they are truly tiny...and tho they are detailed they have so many gaps to be in need for filling....
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Post by: lone dirty dog
Viktor von Domm wrote:they are truly tiny...and tho they are detailed they have so many gaps to be in need for filling....
Well, if you don't want yours …………. LOL
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
lol... you wouldn´t want to tackle my small bulldog (oskar) for it... he has a vicelike grip^^
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Post by: lone dirty dog
Viktor von Domm wrote:lol... you wouldn´t want to tackle my small bulldog (oskar) for it... he has a vicelike grip^^
Why has Oskar got it in the first place
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
well he is our britsh bulldog... our first born is more frail looking but our youngest son is quite hearty boy... and when he battles with bigger guys he is not taken any quarters...
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Post by: dsteingass
well, once you allow someone to pick on you once, it follows you throughout life... And he sounds a bit like his ol man to me
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Very cool concepts and builds.
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
nono... when i was his age kids used to treat my like a he currently has better prospects in life!
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Post by: monkeytroll
dstein - Thanks buddy, I appreciate that. Yeah, I'm thinking some corrugated iron mixed in with the 'timber' (whatever it is that passes for timber in this area  ) would be cool, some of those coming up soon. As you well know it's the details that bring the pieces to life. A model with nice details often looks better than a better executed 'sterile' piece I find.
It is indeed the little snap-tite kit. I grabbed one on impulse the other day, along with a couple of 1:76 Mk I's, which are generated some interesting ideas at the moment  I think I'll be picking a few more up now, and possibly a TIE or 2  The grot-bolt will definitely be getting some further attention, it was one of those ones that just happened, always a sign to explore it.
vik - lol, one of the guys at work was astounded when he realised that I was planning to cut up a precious star wars toy and not just the tanks  . If this was a high quality, large scale kit then I might be tempted to build it 'properly', but then again there'd be such tempting bits in one of those
Yeah, that doesn't match my idea at all, but I'll probably throw it through a few more variations before dismissing it entirely, specifically the tracked version.
Now that's the only issue there  That cool-looking cockpit will have to be removed and larger view-panes put in, but that'll help grotify it.
I think a small gnoblar head will be okay then. Actually, there's that tiny chap I have sat on a rat somewhere, the snotling that hangs off the fantasy orc warboss. He may even fit with that cockpit in place
The rotor is wonky  It's just quickly stuck in place with a blob of blu- tac to get an idea of the possibilities.
My original concept of this one was with duct-fans either side and a jet at the rear, which had recently re-surfaced after seeinf Flinty's excellent use of warma-hordes bases as duct-fans. And after playing with the x-wing hull I figured it was a close match to my original idea...
dave - They were a later addition, but definitely staying  I may try out some different rotor styles, but I like the OTT nature of this one.
vik - Definitely
ldd - Cheers! Those exhausts are a perfect fit
I just happened to buy one figuring there'd be some parts I could scavenge in there, at the same cost as a couple of torso's from a bits site
vik - Yeah, although it would be kinda fun to maybe super-detail one and add some electronics
edited to acknowledge a bunch of rambling that went on whilst I was hitting ctrl-a, ctrl-c, submit.....refresh, ctrl-v, submit....refresh......
And Cheers Gits! I see you in there
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Post by: lone dirty dog
Go buy a bunch of those snap fit fighters and make a grot squadron of fighter golts and you will be my new hero  and a tie fighter as well great stuff cant wait to see more
Vik is your son the British Bulldog  or am I reading this wrong
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Post by: weetyskemian44
Likey likey likelike.
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Post by: Llamahead
I really like the WW2 vibe of the second design myself! Are the Mk1's British WW1 Mk 1 tanks or something else?
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Post by: inmygravenimage
Glorious. I love the WWII feel, but then again I feel a whole "Catch the Squig-dgeon" vibe coming on, to match the Worky Races.
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Post by: mullet_steve
I love the miss use of the tiny X wing
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Post by: Dood515
Wow, having taken 2 days to look through this log from page 1(I admit I started skimming past alot of the text on day 2), I haveto say I'm amazed by the quality of work! The clever use of bitz as things I could never have come up with and the painting .. is just incredible!
Some real ugly(read as beautiful, in an orky, rusty, cybork mekanikal kinda way) stuff in this thread, It'd be a crime not to follow this thread to the very end!
- Dood515
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
lone dirty dog wrote:Go buy a bunch of those snap fit fighters and make a grot squadron of fighter golts and you will be my new hero  and a tie fighter as well great stuff cant wait to see more
Vik is your son the British Bulldog  or am I reading this wrong
the former^^ he is like the british bulldog...:
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Post by: lone dirty dog
Viktor von Domm wrote:lone dirty dog wrote:Go buy a bunch of those snap fit fighters and make a grot squadron of fighter golts and you will be my new hero  and a tie fighter as well great stuff cant wait to see more
Vik is your son the British Bulldog  or am I reading this wrong
the former^^ he is like the british bulldog...:

That makes more sense  I thought you meant one of these :
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
nope...tho he is only but 4 years old (well soon^^) , he is a remabrably steadfast person! he fights like a bulldog... actually he pricked an eye of mine twice in his little time on earth already ^^
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Post by: neil101
love your shack .. get it ..;-)
The xwing planes are wicked monkey , I had that model too..but It got the chop
I saw this the other day and thought of you mate.. or should i say ..grimsnik
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
oh mnan...that looks so cruel^^
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Post by: Briancj
The torture of those X-Wings brought me to tears. :,(
--B.
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Post by: dsteingass
Don't feel bad- what he is doing with that kit is much easier than trying to fix that kit to be accurate
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
^that...! totally!
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Post by: lindsay40k
Nice recap, I'd forgotten about some of them gems!
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Post by: monkeytroll
ldd - Well, I got one more - that was the last. I'll have a nose around for more later.
weety - goody goody goodgood!
Llama - I think adding the prop gave it a lot.
The tanks to be sure.  Got two, ordered two more - I see a buggy, a bike and a trukk using parts - or to be more precise, the tracks
graven - Cheers! I was feeling the WWII and the thunderbolt thing more myself, I feel a more WWI vibe from Dastardly & Mutttley. I know they did use monoplanes but it's the bi- and tri-planes that stick in my mind. And that big many-many-winged contraption they came up with one time
mullet - Not so much a mis-use, more of a different-use
Dood515 - Welcome to Dakka, and to my twisted little corner of it. Thanks for taking the time to go through the whole lot, glad to hear you enjoyed it. You do get the benefit of it appearing to be good progress when reading it all - be prepared for a much more sedate pace here in real-time.
Thank you for the compliments, make yourself at home and enjoy the show.
There should be some nibbles around somewhere - probably best to get some light on whatever you pick up before popping it in your mouth though
vik - I'd guess he's a little smaller though?
ldd - I thought he was comparing Oskar to the dog rather than the wrestler to be honest.
vik - What you get for looking at his lego with a contemplative eye
neil - You try taking Amber to somewhere like that for a romantic weekend you may find your allowance getting cut again
So did mine
Yeah, toyed with both those concepts before, will come back to something similar soon.
vik - Nah, nuffink wrong wiv da good ol' 'elf service round 'ere.
Brian - I know, it's an x-wing. From the REAL Star Wars. It's a design classic.
It's also a cheap-as-chips snap-fit kit which needs a lot of attention to be worthy
Think of it as a mercy killing.
I'll try to cull a few more of the poor things before we're done here.
dstein - Absolutely. Although as I said earlier, there could be a bit of fun to be had detailing and lighting one. Don't expect to see that done anytime soon though, just a random thought.
vik - Agreed.
lindsay - Thanks a lot! To be honest, so had I  Anyway, as most are still lacking paint they'll be coming round again at some pont
So it's a good day at work when you get back to your desk and find boxes from FW and Wayland games sitting there
The last few evenings have seen me busy clipping sprues and examining new bits. Lots of goodness in the Talos box, and interesting stuff from the hurricanum - although less pieces than I expected, it's all crammed on two sprues. BW has some nice bits too, plenty of embryonic ideas coalescing there.
Finished off the swivel-bridge:
Not the greatest pics, a lot of the oil and rust isn't showing properly.
And an orky ping-pong bat
Finished off another little shack-thingy:
Quick'n'easy, I'm liking these little shacks a lot  Should really have taken a different shade for the tarp to add a bit of contrast, but hey-ho. Corrugated iron was heasvy catachan green drybrush over black, followed by light drybrushes of chainmail and silver. Thin black wash all over, then sepia and flesh in spots, 2 rust powders to finish.
Pulled out an old bit of terrain made with polystyrene packing, added some junk and re-painted it:
Rough'n'ready, but it'll do
And started in on another shack:
May need to pull a few more mini-discs apart
edited in a desperate bid to stave off the spelling-bees. I can hear them buzzing...
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Post by: Rogue Wolves
these are sweet, and im liking this new hut!
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
nice suply haul there mate!... must yet again cost you a fortune^^
but i bet there is quite some nice stuff in it to see you through lots of tiny projects! and some grnad for that matter^^
the new/old  shack looks very good... the still unpainted too... i am not too sure about the melted look on the styro...but i think different weaponsystyms can eyplain a lot of melting to concrete  but where this lil terrainpiece really pops is the bright looking (in comparrision) details of junk you added... keep them exactly as they are now... they look fantastic!!!
and the swivvelbridge is a very cool idea mister!
cheers, vik
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Post by: inmygravenimage
The fact you can churn those shacks out so well, so fast, is both impressive and infuriating in equal measure! Nice job. Lmk if you more mini discs to destroy.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Swivel bridge is awesome!
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Post by: neil101
Your terrain work is beautiful mate , the swing bridge is perfect , and a great ideas to boot. you really are the big daddy of orkyknowats and thingymigubbins.
Nice re imagining of the polystyrene plascrete ruin..
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Post by: Gutsplitta
Very cool looking stuff! I expecially like the gear work on the swing bridge. Nice details.
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Post by: lone dirty dog
Swivel bridge work of genius and great paint work  , shacks all look great and the paint job has worked and looks amazing
The only thing missing is the squadron of grot x wing thunders
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Post by: Scarper
The shacks are great, and love what you've done with the polystyrene - so many similar pieces just look like painted packing crates, but yours is dead on. And still super jealous of all your rust. Dunno how you fit all this stuff in your boat!?
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Post by: Llamahead
He just bolts on a new bit welds on a few scrapz getz the grotz ta nik a new engin gets da laser-wieldin sharks ta giv im an hand and hey presto its big enuff agin. Although I'm not sure what the laws are on Dakka bolted onto a canal boat.
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Post by: monkeytroll
Rogue - Cheers buddy! These little shack things are very cool, loads of fun and easy to build
vik - The proceeds of all those long hours I was doing for the first couple of months this year
Cheers! The melted poly was supposed to represent weathered, crumbling plascrete, best I could do with the polystyrene back then - this was one of the first bits of 40k terrain I made  I thought about roughing it up a bit more, and maybe adding a bit of my dust-sand to the worn areas, but decided to just leave it in the end  As you say weapons of the 41st millenium may have strange effects on materials.
I class the junk in the same 'details' cateory as the bits I added to the shack - they're what bring the piece to life so to speak.
Danke!
graven - The fact that I can churn those shacks out so well, so fast, is indicative of how easy they are  I'm sure there are plenty of peeps out there who could produce dozens of these things per session
I still have a few old ones I'm happy to destroy, plus a few still sealed. I'm wondering if I recycle them all does that mean I should recycle the player too  But I'll drop you a pm if I get a mad rush on and use my stash up
Gits - Cheers bud! It was originally going to get gearing along the bottom of the revolving part, but that would have undoubtedly meant it sitting half-completed for half an eternity  Wondering what other rotating goodies need a Pringles can base now
neil - Thanks man. Does that make you the Giant Haystacks of referenced do-dads and whajamacallits?
See, neil knew it was plascrete
Guts - Thank you! It's the details that make the pieces - and with terrain it's easy to get away with a few just to make it all come together
ldd - Thanks and...thanks  Glad the paint-jobs are doing it for you - painting terrain seems so much quicker and easier (well - quicker when it comes to tiny, teeny, simple little constructions  ).
Probably be a couple of weeks till I start on the grot-bolt, exams next week so lots of revision/cramming coming up for most of the time between. But as I've mentioned it (or rather ldd did  ) I'm still undecided on how to proceed with it/them. I was toying with the idea of building it pretty much the same as the concept, with that cockpit and no pilot - more as a stand alone model. I have still to find the warboss' little snotling to check him for size - but I was also wondering what to actually build it as if it is a grot-fighta for my guys.
Deff-kopta or storm-boy seem the obvious choice, yet they both have choppas and I haven't come up with a solution I'm really happy with. Chainsaw blades on the wing-tip is the best so far, and although I like it, it's moving away from the first image I had - which is not unusual, but that initial concept build went effortlessly together and really struck a chord with me.
Hence toying with maybe a small dio, just the fighta on a runway type of thing...
Scarp - Cheers mate, I've still got my eye on your skips
Hmmm, we likes it rusty, don't we my pwecious?
Umm, with increasing difficulty  Seriously, this terrain larks great fun an' all, but I'm running out of room for mini's, let alone buildings and the like
Llama - Well, that all depends on how much dakka the law has
So, let's see if there's anything to show you then...
Hmm, not a lot, but here goes:
Current state of the next shack:
And the next:
Not decided on a canvas or metal roof for this one yet.
And a quick'n'cheerful conversion
Not all there yet, but almost - as I said, this one's quick'n'cheerful  I'll probably come back to this idea later with a nob, do some justice to the leather jacket.
And then there's this guy:
.......Who will be sitting like this:
.......In this:
Hope no-one was expecting a real orky ping-pong bat
The front will have a TIE style cockpit window, there'll be a couple of consoles in front of the driver, and a turret at the back of the 'cab'.
Hmm, yep, that's about it....
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Post by: Gitsplitta
LOL! Love that last bit!
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Post by: lone dirty dog
Loving it all everything looks great once again and those shacks are just so dam cool
Like the little conversion but needs more work  and the ork super whatever is going to be rather huge then  but so far so good
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Post by: neil101
Hah hah ha .. very good .. i see what you did their ..
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Post by: tipios
Love the detail on all the shacks.
The latest pin-pong Tie tank is gona be mega too!
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Post by: weetyskemian44
You crazy monkey. Such an ambitious vehicle. - big, lots of room for gubinz and grotz. Love the shacks - thats my kinda terrain - are those matchsticks with the phosphorus scraped off
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Post by: dsteingass
IS there no limit to your badassery sir? Automatically Appended Next Post: I absolutely love the use of the Plastruct Manway! I just picked up a bag of those myself!
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
ouch... monkey...that peg leggerd skaterboy made me actually squirm a bit...that looks really painful^^
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Post by: monkeytroll
Gits - Cheers fella!!
ldd - Thanks dog! There'll be a few little details like knee and shoulder pads, maybe a bit of tattered sleeve, but it was supposed to be a quick job  As stated I'm sure I'll come back to that concept of neil's with a nob, need to get some more practice at sculpting jackets
It's not that big, it's just a trukk
neil -
tipios - Thanks man! It's all in the details  I hope so
weety - Now see, I was thinking of this trukk as a rather simple job really  That's a kitchen roll sat on some chimmy tracks, with some 1:76 tracks under the front. Wasn't thinking it was going to be anything spectacular or huge
Of course, we've all seen that my sense of scale isn't always that good when I'm just building and not comparing
Well, they're more matchsticks before they've been dipped in phosphorus  An old bag of modelling matchsticks that I used to use for all sorts of building back when I was a teen. Still going strong - I secretly believe it's a different bag and I've forgotten buying a replacement.
A few matchsticks and some scraps of plasticard/card/junk and instant shack - cheap, quick, easy and loads of fun - just as terrain should be  Get to it girl!
dstein - Thank you sir! I believe there is, but I'm hoping it's still a long way off  Yeah, you'll have a load of fun with those
vik - Man you should have seen the bail vid
Nothing to show tonight, but my hobby time has unexpectedly popped back into existence - I haven't been registered for my exams so I'll be doing them in November now. Which means a whole week of exams then - one a day Mon-Fri. I'm not sure I did that even when I was back in school  That's not going to be fun. And just found out that my best friends, who have been a couple since we were all cadets together, are splitting up. So yeah, been an interesting day.
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Post by: weetyskemian44
I will get some matchsticks - I already have ice lolly sticks - I was going to make a big wooden ship, water tight it with wax, rigg up some sails and put it on the local model boating lake but I think I might have to swim out to it if the wind dies down.
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Post by: Scarper
Only an ork would position themselves in a giant glass dome at the front of a crawler vehicle  Looking forward to where you go with it - I vote one side gets painted red and the other black. Maybe some wood effect for the bit at the front? No reason... Automatically Appended Next Post: And sorry to hear bout the rubbish day - at least if you've got all your exams together they'll be done with: beats having them stretched out over a month!
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Post by: wazzoo2000
this is ace, i will be copying this at some point mate, nice work
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Post by: HAZZER
Loving your stuff monkey! But no ping pong bat? Nooooooo! Btw blogs been updated!
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Post by: beware...
Love all the work you're doing here!!
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Post by: Skalk Bloodaxe
Amazing work! Just spent some time catching up. Loving the Orkiness of it all, but that building really caught my attention. Always a treat to see what you have going on, looking forward to more!
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Post by: schank23
What would be really cool it a pic of all your completed models and terrain just to see the full scale of all you have completed. If I ever played you I dont think I would win. I would be to busy checking out all your conversions and be to distracted to play.
By the way. Did that unit of grots I sent to infiltrate your house ever make it? They still havn't reported back to me.
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Post by: monkeytroll
Cor, bit dusty in 'ere then innit?
Not dead, not in jail, not living on the streets, not yet...
Mixture of things kept me away - Work, Skyrim, New Vegas, Oblivion, Breaking Bad and a general loss of interest in the hobby - a short-term loss I hasten to add, I know I'm not the only one who gets them.
Pretty hectic in the next few months too, so things will move slower than usual round here till Mid-November, but hopefully a bit faster than they have the last few months.
I have exams in Nov, and by my current reckoning I have to go through 4 chapters a week till then, more as I have one weekend away, and then I get a Mon-Fri of exams. I really thought all that malarky was decades in my past
Right, I believe I have some replies to take care of:
weety - If you have lollysticks and matchsticks then you have planks and beams - get to it.
Although a boat's cool too. I've been watching some guys with their RC boats down here and thinking that a RC sub with torps and a camera would be a thing of beauty
Scarp - He tried sitting at the back first, and to be fair it made no difference what-so-ever to his driving. But he couldn't see the stuff he was blowin' up and shootin' up, so he moved to the front
Hmm, that would go nicely with the white radar sphere I was planning for the back
Cheers mate. I'd rather have them spread out as nothing (and I mean that ALMOST literally) is being retained and my one hope is to rely on cramming immediately beforehand and short-term memory. Which is a bugger over a week.
wazzoo - Cheers! Look forward to seeing what you do with it - I've yet to catch up on your blog, no doubt at your speed it was done and sealed an age ago
HAZ - Thanks. Good job I didn't show you the 'swing-ball' set then  I've no doubt it's been updated many times since. I'll catch up soon
beware... - Thank you, and welcome to the monkey-house.
Skalk - Thanks man. Those little shacks are great fun to do - you can add all sorts of haracter to the entire thing with just one or two items as it's all so compact.
I've been catching up on your terrain thread, somehow I'd missed it till now. And yes I can see the link in your sig.
schank - Good to see you again buddy.  Even if I missed you by 3 months.  Damn.
Weren't there some complete shots in that big ol' update a coupla pages back? Nothing added since then except what, maybe two of those little shacks?
No I'm fairly sure you'd win. I'd be too distracted by the fact that every time you did something I'd be going 'well, that's different to how I remember RT working', and then I'd get distracted by talking to you about the minis. TBH I think it would just be a couple of blokes randomly moving toy soldoers about making 'pew-pew' noises
Not heard anything of them yet, but having said that, the guys I had out looking for them haven't been seen in quite a while. Strange
So, I found time to start catching up on Dakka the other week, and one of the things that got my attention was the cookie terrain comp
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/467554.page
And I figured I might be able to scrape enough time and energy together to do something there, so after going out and buying some cookies I had a cup of tea and ate some.
Lovely they were.
Hmm? Oh sorry, been a while, forgot how this worked. It's some S&M you wanted wasn't it? P&M you say?
P&M, S&M what's the difference?
Adventures in cookie-land:
After all the cookies are gone (feel free to use another container if you can't manage all of them in one sitting),a liberal coat of pva and some card strips cut from the box went inside to help strengthen the plastic. Once dry it was glued down to a piece of foam board and a piece of plasticard stuck to one end where it was a bit battered.
The battery compartment from my old camera was a nice fit against one end, with further details being added from card stock and the cellophane wrapper from the cookies.
Bit of pipework and cabling is always important. Cables on the battery compartment were also from card stock, peeled a layer of and twisted it. Some model ship railings provided the rooftop supports, cable from a necklace.
Then it got some colours layed down.
And then the sponge came out to play
Some attention was directed towards the pipework.
And work continues.
Couple of weeks left, should get it done in time.
Just as long as nothing else catches my eye.
If the flyboyz are going to get orf tha grahnd then landing pads might be useful  Probably more for in their take-off pad rule to be fair, but you know.
See you occasionally....
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
ah.... how i´ve missed your snazzy updates mister...!!!
and boy... that contest sounds interesting....?
Pretty hectic LOL... i read pretty heretic... LOL... dunno what´s up with my reading skills...
and then i stumbled over...:
S&M
and i thought you are talking about certain bedtime practices
oh my... my mind is totally in the gutter these days... probably due to working with kids
as for the update... i gotta ask a question... how strudy is the connection of paint to tray? does it bond well or does it tend to flake off easily?
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Post by: monkeytroll
Oops, forgot to mention the layer of pva before painting
Otherwise yes, it'll just flake off.
And I was vik
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
lol....
ah... PVA...good idea... to tell you something... for the spitit of the thing... our family devoured (yep...that is a fitting term...as the time used for eating up the contens of that cookiepackage it took was way too small  ) a cookiepackage to get me into making some terrain on my own too... soooo i will try it out eventually on my own too^^.... fair is fair i guess... i have to do to me what i do onto others^^
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Post by: weetyskemian44
Heck monkeytroll, that was a swiftly done piece of terrain - musta been all the hobby energy stored up from months of abstinence. It looks superb and totally non-biscuit tray-ish. It is totally believable as some kind of substation/water treatment thingy.
Well that's me told anyway - I better dig out those lollypop sticks and get some matches. So many projects.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
That's nothing short of brilliant mate! Wow. The transformation from cookie tray to industrial thingie is amazing!
How did you get your piping to bend 90 degrees?
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Post by: inmygravenimage
More importantly, what kind of cookies were they?
Also, great sponge work chief!
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Post by: Baiyuan
Great work on that piece of scenery! Awesome weathering, apart from the rust on the main ribs of the... cookie packaging, that part turned out too red imo.
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Post by: Zeke 169
That generator is pretty wicked awesome, great use of misc crap laying around the house. VERY inventive.
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Post by: Big Boss Grimbad
Those cyborks and stuff are awesome, I suddenly whant to build a cybork army to
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Post by: storag
Superb generator man! I absolutely love it!
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Post by: monkeytroll
vik - Cookies aren't meant to be kept.
weety - Ahh, the old post-it-all-at-once trick I'm afraid. It was a week or so's work, it went up on the comp thread, but I wasn't sure if I'd be doing anything else so didn't show it here.
...and so little time. What happened to the life of leisure we were all supposed to be leading by now? I'm sure I was told robots would be doing all the work and I'd be able to devote all my time to toy soldiers and jet-pack racing.
Jet-packs!
Where's my fething jetpack?
Gits - Thank you! I used plastruct elbows for the bends, the tubes a little thicker than I'd like to bend myself with good results.
graven - Fudges Lemon Zest Biscuits.
Cheers!
Baiyuan - Thanks man! That's just the first layer - the dark flesh represents the primer, with the majority of the rust coming from powders in this case.
Zeke - Cheers. Use what you've got to hand, it's cheaper
Big Boss Grimbad - Thank you. Go for it, perfect opportunity for insane orky shenannigans
storag - Thanks man!
So, got distracted today.
Did a bit to the supports for the landing pad:
Not too many 'patches' on these, they're in pretty good nick. Apart from the pile of cables spilling out the side and the broken pipes
And I built a little do-dadd :
Nothing fancy, just a xmas-cracker spinning top wrapped in plasticard, with a couple of bits.
But I did continue with highlighting the chips on the generator, round to the other side now.
Whilst I was doing that I also did a bit of this:
Just need to 'furnish' it now
I also put a bit of coloured liquid on the supports:
A bit rough'n'ready still, but you get the idea. Maybe.
And most of the exchanger done:
Thanks for stopping by, I'll try and save some of the next batch of cookies
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Very impressive mate. Those are coming together nicely!
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Post by: dsteingass
Fantastic Monkey! I love the cooling tower! Your rust is, as always, phenomenal! For your generator for Vik's contest, did you find a way to use the foil wrapper at all?
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Post by: monkeytroll
Gits - Cheers bud!Like everything else of mine, they come together well right up ntil the last point, where they inevitably stall
Dave - Thanks man. To be fair, most of the rust on those was powders, quick and easy stylee
Yes I did:
The cloth hanging over the supports was part of the cellophane wrapper. Not ideal as it doesn't lie properly over the support, it's a bit too bulky for cloth, but it'll do.
The cloth's a bit better this side, but that's because it's a smaller piece The tarp on the ground is also from the cellophane
A couple of coats of pva (with a drop of washing-up liquid to break the surface tension) and it's fine for paint. I'd expect the foil type wrappers to act the same.
No distractions today
Well, except for any hobby stuff, as this was supposed to be a pure study day.
Oh and the fact that I found an old Space Marine building (First incarnation of Epic for you youngsters) that could potentially be pressed into service as some sort of maintenance gubbins:
A Zinge vent, a Leman exhaust and a few bits of plasticard, nice and simple. I know there's a few more of these lying around so if the final piece looks OK there's some more cheap terrain
Playing with the terrain (what? that's what it's for  ) and I liked the look of the truss going from the support to the generator, so I'll look into making a similar tower for connecting to various bits:
Don't want to fiddle with the genny to make the truss load-bearing (so it could take a gantry) but just like the look of it, perfect for hanging a sign off or just some chains.
Got a bit stuck with what to put in the shack, didn't want to do anything complex, so it just got some stikk-bomms and a knife.
Also realised I'd missed showing how the leather was being kept in place, so added some rivets. Badly.
I was a bit messy with the superglue - went straight from the tube instead of using a cocktail stick and got white, shiny bits of glue around the rivets.
Be careful when gluing on painted surfaces
A layer of varnish followed by a pva/devlan mix and a coat of sepia seems to have sorted it somewhat.
Not a great deal of character to this one, but then again, not every little shack in a shanty-town part of the sprawl-slum is going to be imbibed with character, so
Jack found that not all the kiosks at the fun-fair were quite so welcoming...
And finished off the exchanger tower:
And with Drilla-Killa for scale:
Just noticed the wires need a wash to dirty them down a bit.
The cool battered appearance fo the tower was a nice accident. Caught in a buiding frenzy I glued the tower down before spraying the inside, which is clearly visible through the fan. It therefore got a really heavy spray through the fan, and through the hole in the centre of the UMD it was based on The concentration of paint in the enclosed space warped the thin plastic I'd used on this and, hey presto, battered sides
And the Epic building with a lick of paint to see how it hangs together:
And for scale we let Transplant Feva chase Drilla-Killa round it Scooby-Doo style
'She turned me into a squig!'
'A squig?'
'I got better.'
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Post by: dsteingass
Dood! That thing makes a GREAT little rooftop A/C or scrubber unit!
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Post by: monkeytroll
Hence no base, so it can be placed anywhere
I may not play, but I like to think about how it works
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Post by: PDH
The weathering on the cookie packet, sorry, generator is simply stunning.
Glad to see you have been up to no good
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
those hazard stripes are just perfectly weathered!
and i never would have guessed that this folded something is the foil.... very good work!
and when i see your stuff it is really hard to imagine it is in fact not RL stuff but 28mm models!
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Post by: ruff
Excellent work.. definitely a source of inspiration..
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Post by: Briancj
You completely ruined an Epic-scale building! Those are priceless!
PRICELESS!
--B
*sobbing in the corner*
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Post by: dsteingass
heh..You know what I traded in for a Cadian Boxed Army ($250 price then) when they first came out with the Plastic Cadians?
An entire Epic 40k box set, buildings and all,plus an entire Epic Guard Armored company unpainted, a Warmaster box set, A pile of GURPS books, All of which are worth a fortune now, but in 2000-2001-ish, was not worth too much  I didn't know what I had
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Post by: Briancj
Sherman, to the WAYBAC machine!
Also, I have goodies in my thread. Lovely, lovely photographic goodies, for all of the League to share!
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Oh my gosh DS.... I remember GURPS! LOL!
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Post by: monkeytroll
PDH - Thanks man. It's a simple process, just requires a bit of patience
Always
vik - Cheers! Amazing what a bit of pva can do
ruff - Thank you! A pleasure to hear that
Brian - Sorry man  I'll try to warn you before the next one
Dave - Ahh, the special blindness brought on by the presence of Shiny!
Brian - Look very nice, but I've just skimmed the thumbnails and looked at a couple for now, don't need any extra inspiration right now
Gits - We played a bit back in the day, mainly using superhero and cowboy themes as I recall. Never really made it into our regular playlist though, can't recall why.
Not a lot to report, but decided to go the graffiti route with the support.
A few more words then another round of washes and that'll do. That and a bit of work to the pipes and the green plate, maybe a light touch of rust across the whole thing.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Most excellent.
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Post by: Vitruvian XVII
That looks fantastic Monkey! That graffiti is streets ahead!
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Post by: neil101
all good gak monky.. and we know you know your gak..
sacrilegious though .. butchering up That EPIC building.
mmm.. Epic Gak then..
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Post by: lone dirty dog
The Craze is back excellent stuff once again, still loving those shacks
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Post by: mullet_steve
Not sure about the grafitti but everything else appears as always epicaly awesome...
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Post by: monkeytroll
Gits - Well thank you.
Vit - Cheers! graffiti, streets, very good
neil - Hmmm, Monkeytroll knows gak. Not the best motto I've heard
Bah, the tiny spacemens, they no need the buildings no more.
Vindaloo earlier?
ldd - Cheers! The Craze
mullet - Thanks. Anything in particular the matter with the graff, or just the general idea?
Not a lot done, mainly due to slicing open the pad of my thumb last night. Makes it tricky to hold things  But also spent far too long mulling over new ideas.
Finished off the first support:
Not very happy with the camo'd patch, bit of a rush botch job, I'll angle that so it's not that visible under the pad
Not worth showing the bits on the cookie generator, just a few more highlights. Jut ned to finish that off, touch up the base, add the cable and then powder.
Also played about with one of the ideas for pipes between buildings.
Hanging bits of metal/armour down as makeshift barricades, blocking line of sight. I'm thinking the pipe for this should be slightly shorter, so that the plates start nearer the buildings.
And that's about the size of it....
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Post by: weetyskemian44
The weathering on your tube things is most realistic. You have a knack for dirt which I want to appropriate! I tried to emulate your shacks with the lollypop sticks, matches and cocktail sticks but I had trouble cutting the damned things. Not wanting to slice open my precious hands (I need them for work) I am leaving off the shack till I find a sharper knife. Hope your hand heals quickly! We need robots with lasers for all this cutting, it would be safer (unless the robots become self aware and decide to make tiny shacks out of our bones)
And thanks again for the link in your sig!
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Post by: Rogue Wolves
I love the character on these latest peices, And the hanging bits of metal on the pipe is genius! it looks great!, and by the way, you grafiti is a perfect variation of random, and weathered, and it looks natural (may or may not know someone in the grafiti buisness  ) I will definatly be adding these pics to my inspirational terrain folder!
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Post by: bigfish
Really like the idea of hanging metal plates acting as cover, its so simple and yet so orky. would be really fun gamewise as well. oh and your buildings are so beautifully derelict its unbelievable, how do you paint graffiti like that!!!
anyway keep up the awesome
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Post by: MrMerlin
These concrete supports look almost real, awesome attention to detail, man! Great work!
edit: oh wait I hadn't commented on here before?? Well, I love your blog, extremely creative, exalted!
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Post by: monkeytroll
weety - OK we need to organise a mind-meld which results in you gaining my dirt and me gaining your speed
Yes, sharp knife required, although the matches are a perfect size as is
I actually sliced my thumb doing the washing-up rather than any hobby-related accident
Yes, where's our robots? And our personal laser cutters?
And even more importantly, Jetpacks. Where's our fething jetpacks?
Rogue - Thank you, thank you and thank you!
I figured the hanging metal was a more interesting take on barricades. In game terms I think the pipe by itself is low enough to stop most vehicles, which is kind of interesting. At least to me
bigfish - I was thinking that the metal plates had been used by the hive-scum who were there previously, but the idea struck a chord with da boyz  I may do some little floor level bits to go with them, to prevent constant foot-sniping
Like the real thing - layer by layer
MrMerlin - Thanks man, and welcome if this is indeed your first time in the monkey-cave.
So it seems that cd/mini-disc bases are absolutely ideal for slipping into cuts across the thumb  Not in the least bit fething annoying
Current state of the supports:
One doone, one nearly done, one just started.
Finished one of the older buildings and started colouring.
Klub Grottz is under new management and having a lick of paint before the grand opening.
And what fun are shortcuts without precarious walkways to traverse?
Thank you for flying Air-Monkey. We are currently cruising at 1000ft. Please undo your seatbelts, leave your belongings where they are, and proceed to the nearest emergency exit where the stewardess will relieve you of any cash before helping you out...
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Post by: lone dirty dog
HA HAH AH HA Klub Grots Sounds like a place to avoid, I just imagined a grot pole dancer YUCK !!!!!!
However the scenery is coming on great, the walkway simple but effective especially the misshaped corrugated iron, and the pipe with hanging metal items from it, well I thought it was some kind of Ork windz chyme LOL
Gentle brezze blowing and all you can here in the distant is the tuneful sound of CRASH BANG CLANG !!!!! NICE.
Watch out for the CD'S they will get you every time
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Post by: mullet_steve
I am sorry I haven't gotten back to you sooner about the Graffiti I just don't think it's up to your usualy standard of realisum... It looks of to me but I appear to be in the minority.
It is an exceptionaly good idea and one I might try to steal for my next project but I'm going to have to practice and print out some resorce material for inspiration
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Post by: monkeytroll
ldd - What do you think those red squares are for? Grots like to keep their podiums low
Ork wind chimez  Hmm, now there's an interesting idea. There may be something in that
mullet - No worries, thanks for replying. I'm fairly happy with the graff itself, in the sense of random scrawlings rather than art, but not so happy with the actual support itself - it was a bit of a 'play around with different styles' thing, and I felt it needed something added to help detract from that, hence the grafitti. There'll be more to come, some of which will be a bit more b-boy, so hopefully there's better to come
Sometimes the lone dissenting voice is the correct one
Good luck with whatever you have brewing presently, I look forward to seeing it , and potentially any grafitti on it
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
cool.... klub grotz.... splendid concept!!! that has me hooked!
Not a lot done, mainly due to slicing open the pad of my thumb last night. Makes it tricky to hold things
ouch....
So it seems that cd/mini-disc bases are absolutely ideal for slipping into cuts across the thumb Not in the least bit fething annoying
double ouch....
and that line of sight blocking metal washing line equivalent is a totally unique idea... gives the term iron curtain a new take!
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Post by: Skalk Bloodaxe
Excellent work as always. Your terrain is really well done and it must make your table look amazing. Any chance of a 'group photo'? Would really like to see some of your completed pieces together.
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Post by: monkeytroll
vik - Cheers! It had to be a grot hangout as the pieces lent themselves to a smaller scale than orks  There'll be more to come on da klub later, that's just the basic klub
It's just a big ol' washing line for armour plates is all
Skalk - Thank you man! Well, it might make my table look amazing if I had one. I don't actually play, just somehow managed to get myself stuck on the terrain tip TBH, most of the pieces are in the usual state for my work - not quite finished  Don't worry, as they get finished I'll be taking shots of the different 'builds' I can get  I wanna show it off
So bit more done on the cookie genny, need to crack on with it after this post to get it done tomorrow.
Mind is going into overdrive with ideas at the moment, drifting off at the slightest provocation - which is oh, so useful when you're looking for a vital part and have to pick up and contemplate designs for 20 or so other parts before reaching what you were after
I almost came back from Tesco's yesterday with no food as I kept seeing things that could be turned into other things
Just about managed to hold it together by giving in to these two
Saw them on the shelf and thought that for less than a tenner each they could probably make something interesting  Was quite disappointed with Captain America's Goliath Assault Tank (bet you can't remember that  ) when I got it out of the packing, but after cutting a few bits off and playing with it it's grown on me a bit - still not as promising as it first looked, but there's material for a variety of things there.
I had a little play with it but that and Iron Man's Firestrike Assault Jet (Nope, me neither  ) are really projects for a rainy day. Oh, wait, that's pretty much any day around here isn't it?
Anyhow, had a package turn up at work today, and I thought I'd share it with you guys. 'Cause I'm nice like that
Well, two packages actually, the first had a few crackle paints I ordered after seeing neil's great work on his terrain. I'll be putting them to the test soon I think.
But the main attraction tonight is that old favourite...Zombies!!!
Scarper pointed me in the direction of the Zombiecide kickstarter a while back and I opted in.
Got my box today.
Let's see what's inside boys and girls...
So we have the game, a t-shirt, a lithograph, 6 dice and the abomination pack.
Ok, better open some of that stuff up, get a smell of new game
A slim paperback rule book, looks ok on a brief flick through. Sorry, didn't get a page count and have packed it all back up, this won't be a proper review just some quick first impressions. It'll also probably be a while before I get to play it (I intend to at least try it before deciding how to hack the mini's up  ) No doubt there will be, or already is, some real reviews posted. Also just remembered I never got a 'group shot' of all the stuff unpacked, oh well.
The book contains 10 scenarios/missions to play out - the game is for 1-6 players and supposedly takes around an hour to play. I'll get back to you on that at some distant point in the future...
Opened it back up...28 pages.
Tokens. Cop cars, shambling hordes in a disco, red cross aid points, the exit, golden bullets, blue cross sale, hearing aid recharging points, doorways, Satan and the green cross code....yep, this game seems to have covered all the bases
A stack of cards (seems to be weapons, mods, encounters and some other stuff) and some dice - these ones sans zombie-head and molotov cocktail.
Nine double-sided tiles for the board, each 25x25cm, and six character cards. The reverse of the cards has blanks for creating your own.
The zombies. 8 models (1 fatty, 2 runners, 5 walkers), 4 rows, 2 trays. Some of those are getting chopped up no matter what
With some friends for scale. A few have obvious mould lines, there's some nice detailing, faces are a bit sharper than they look in the pics, but there is a certain 'zombie-softness' to them. I'm betting Scarp's already cut some up in his head for his scavengers
The abomination. Guess he's the big bad
Our heroes:
Doug, the office worker. Phil, the cop. Amy, the goth. Josh, the hoodie. Ned, the bum. Wanda the waitress.
Roller boots and a chainsaw. She has Escher genes baby, I'm telling you
And that's the contents of the game. Looks kinda cool.
OK, let's take a peek inside the abomination pack then.
Some more cards, and some more dice - this time with those heads'n'bombs on  And one set is glow-in-the-dark . It doesn't matter if you can't see the zombie heading for you, you'll still be able to see if you wounded him.
Another abomination, and three more heroes.
That'll be Nick, the seat-of-the-pants cop-in-a-vest, El Cholo, the Mexican with machetes, and Dave, the geek with the molotovs
And there was also another trayful of zombies.
Hmm, that's a good way to order zombies I feel, by the trayful
Well, that's a bit of undead fun for you to drool over, I need to go eat, and then invent a time machine to go back to when I started typing this so that I can go paint instead
edited for an inability to count up to eight. And I'm the stock manager? Sheesh.
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Post by: Vitruvian XVII
You got yours already! No fair!
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Post by: Briancj
I played my copy, yesterday, and it was an absolute RIOT. Book scenarios are little boring, but the contents of the box lend themselves to free Internet Scenarios by the bucketload.
I am PLEASED.
--B.
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Post by: weetyskemian44
Hearing aid recharge points??? Are some of the hero's deaf?
Looks like fun
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Post by: Baiyuan
monkeytroll wrote:I may not play, but I like to think about how it works 
Awesome comment, sigworthy...
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Post by: monkeytroll
Vit - You mean I'm the one that got my gak early for a change? That's a nice sensation
Brian - After flicking through the rules it sounds fun. I'm sure I'll get a chance to have a couple of solo plays before a group session. Definite scope for plenty of expansion. I can see me converting up some survivors for a start
weety - Well, what do you know. After glancing at the rules it seems my guesses as to what the tokens represented was off a little  No golden bullets either that I could see. Those are cop cars though
With pimpmobiles on the reverse  Like a giddy scholgirl I didn't even notice that the tokens were double-sided.
The game has zombies and pimpmobiles. What else do you need to know people?
Baiyuan - What I find interesting is that I'm not trying to build a cool model of a building, I'm trying to build a cool piece of gaming terrain. I like to think how a model could use the terrain, even if the particular rule-set I'm thinking of isn't quite right
So took the cookie genny to work to try and sneak in 20mins of chipping at lunch. Which was okay.
It does seem that transporting terrain needs planning though  I had two pieces when I got to work. Bonus!! Oh wait, that's not how this game works is it? It was just one of the supports for the wire, but it did take a smal chunk of paint with it, and that's going to be a pain to cover up, and then finish it for tonight.
Hmm, it's not going to get to the state I wanted, but I'll be back later with whatever I've got.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Ok, pic dump, chatter later
Not quite to the state I wanted, it could do with a couple of washes and some drybrushing in places, and a spot of tidying...but it'll do
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Post by: inmygravenimage
Looking groovy and apocalyptic. I find it fascinating what crowd-sourcing is doing for the hobby (relic knights is just bananas) and it's always interesting to see what other ponds folk are dipping in (not skinny-dipping though, specially when there's zombies about).
Speaking of which, come the zombie apocalypse, I'm buying a boat. Wait, you already thought of that...
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Post by: Squigsquasher
Colour me subscribed!
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Post by: Llamahead
Looking brilliant. But you know what this game really needs Zombie Orks........
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Post by: monkeytroll
graven - Cheers. I think there's going to be some interesting times ahead with the crowd-sourced projects - just so long as there isn't a run of good ones at the same time  I've dropped on Dreadball and Dreamforge too so far, and the Bombshell Babes will no doubt be getting some of my hard-earnrd too.
Zombies will be an interesting change of pace - with so many it's going to be minimal conversion and 'quick' paint jobs for sure.
Melting icecaps, torrential storms, zombie apocalypse - I'm covered for it all
Squigsquasher - Will do, but be warned, I take a loooong time over my colouring  Welcome aboard, it's a bumpy and confused ride, but you can probably get by without holding on for the moment.
Llamahead - CHeer bud! I have been looking at the fat  y and the abomination for 'research' purposes
Not a lot done hobby-wise at the weekend as I was off at a hip-hop festival. All good except for the early shut-downs, luckily there were a few guys who lived close so we just skipped out after a while so we could get pretty decent kips and brekky
However I did pop over my folks to exchange birthday presents with my mum (mine was Wednesday hers was Thursday) and decided to rescue some old terrain whilst I was there.
And some assorted other bits... I'l see what I can do with these, the larger building and the round huts can certainly be used. The walls and ruin are on dodgy cardboard bases so I'l see what can be salvaged there.
And a touch on the zeds
I'm thinking I'll start with a whitish base and a wash for definition, followed with coloured washes for the majority. And I'm playing with the idea of having an item or two per mini done in paint to stand out from the rest - I'm going to use one of the trays for experimenting with the look, but I need something quick to get through the hordes  Spend a bit more time on the survivors.
Here for instance I might paint the high heels and the tie a bright red. I started hacking up the base on the male before realising that there was no way I wanted to customise all the bases
I said the first tray was for experimenting didn't I?
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Post by: Rogue Wolves
Oooo I really wanted that game.. although a bit demotivated being that I couldnt donate any money to their kickstarter and I really want the Bruce Willace, Samuel Jackson, and Chuck Norris heroes...
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Post by: adamsouza
Love what you're doing with the zombies. Eager to see how the rest turn out.
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Post by: neil101
they look rather good.. especially like the movement in them .. and those characters are a treat... now you just need the survival guide and and brown and yellow bell jet chopper..
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
those wooden thingies.... these looks very good...
and did you really just use washes for those z´s? very cool looking!
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Post by: weetyskemian44
Ahh the old nothing but washes technique. My favorite technique.
They look great by the way. Zombies are always a welcome sight - did you see the blog with the pirate zombies? That was totally superlative, it was practically awesome.
Hipityhipityhophop.
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Post by: monkeytroll
Rogue - Just after the kickstarter closed I was kicking myself for pledging as I spotted sedition wars and was thinking that the sci-fi stuff was far better suited to my sensibilities, but now I'm thinking that the zeds make a nice change. The Sam Jackson one has been pulled, looks like there'll be a Clint version taking it's place. Not sure of this, but won't the wave 2 (Clint & Chuck) minis be available to buy when they're released?
adam - Cheers. I suspect you'll be a while waiting for them all to be done - I think that's about twice as many figs as I've finished in my 2 yearss on dakka
neil - They are pretty cool, the zombie versions of the characters should be interesting. I was thinking of building a mall...
vik - They were part of an chaos encampment, used to have very crap thatched roofs and a couple more huts that seem to have been eaten by the garage monster. No great loss, but these'll be okay with a bit of corrugated iron rivetted in place.
weety - I think it's going to be mainly washes, with a few inks and a splash of paint here and there. It needs to be fast to even think about getting through them - I'll spend time on the survivors, and their zombie counterparts, plus the abomination - maybe both if one doesn't become a bit orky
Cheers! It does ring a bell, might go look for it again though.
Hiphopbodyrockbodypopdontstopbebop.
And a few more washes gone down - see it is fast, or maybe that's just the red brush I was using
Veronica and Bob, almost done.
Davey and Trent. Almost done.
Paulie and Sue. Who seems to have put on mismatched stockings. Bit to do.
And no, I doubt they'll all get names. Or at least, they won't keep their names Automatically Appended Next Post: Forgot the obligatory 'trouble at t'hive' shot:
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I had thought not but you know what clint is 100000 times better than sam.. you just made my day
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Well, that's not yet confirmed to be the replacement - rumour based on some artwork in the dlc campaign - zed with a magnum
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Not in love w/ those models but the paint job is (as always) very impressive.
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yes that paintjob is really stunning... washpainting produces some nice effects again!
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Those are coming along great!
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Skalk - Cheers bud! I quite like them, especially considering that they're from a board game, could have done with a bit more gore, but that does leave me something to do I suppose
vik - Thanks. More importantly, it's quick
Gits - Thank you sir!
So, considering all these CDs I've been utilising for bases, Figured I should really do something with the CD spindle too
And so I decided that more landing pads were in order.
There needs to be a ladder and chains on that vertical piece, possibly some more details on the main structure, and a hose attached to the refueling pump. Maybe a few tools lying around, some support for the fuel pipes and a spot of debris.
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started my current project with wash painting too... hopefully i can provide pics tomorrow...
and yes it is quick^^
and ...that fuel pump atop of that landing spindle... what are those round half spheres?
looking good as usual by the way...an intersting take at the somewhat otherwise overdone spindle usage for terrain^^ tat two storey version out of one spindle is something i haven´t yet seen
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Post by: Rogue Wolves
Oooo this one seems really cool, I could see this fitting well in any 40k city
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That little do-dad on the edge there is super cool. Where did you get the little half-orbs?
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looking great monkey.. wishing i had some plasticard rods right about now..
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there is a commandment... tho shall never run out of plasticcard rods...
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Landing pad I keep thinking star wars for some reason, love the little pump as well maybe an open tool box with the odd spanner lying around.
Great job
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vik - Yep, good start mate! Those hemispheres come from EMA http://www.ema-models.co.uk/index.php/acrylic-plastic-shapes/hemispherical-domes/clear-domes.html
Seemed like the obvious solution to me, I'm sure there's a whole bunch out there somewhere
RW - Cheers bud! Yeah, this ones not too orkified, they haven't had a chance to improve every building in the area yet
GG - Thank you, and see above
Neil - Thanks man. Yeah, guess you've been going through a bit of plastic recently
vik - or pen inners, insulated wire, straws, sprue etc
ldd - Yeah, I'm thinking fuel hose, spanner/wrench possibly a tool kit, I'll probably wait till the main part's done before deciding what exactly.
Most of the base colours down, started on some of the weathering.
Thanks for popping in, help yourself to a soggy squig on the way out...
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Nice work as usual MT!
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What you going to add the first level ? seating area maybe a squig juice machine maybe, smoking section
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hmmm.... that yellow level... i am not sold ... looks rushed... not your usual quality... it needs saying as your weathered yellow is one of the best i´ve seen here so far!!!
and thanks for the explanative link... could have known such stuff by myself...
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Post by: Scarper
As always, Monkey, your terrain is utterly amazing. I'd love to play on your table some time! That walkway support from the last page is perhaps my favourite bit of terrain from you so far - all the graffiti is so beautifully believable, and the weathering is top notch. I might borrow the hanging barricade idea too, if you don't mind
Your zombicide turned up a full week or two before mine, and I'm really glad for you that you didn't get stung on the customs - it took £20 to get mine out of the customs office, including £8 for the privilege of having them hold onto it for me! It's a fantastic game though, tells a story every time you play. Have you had a chance for a game with anyone yet?
Really like your paint job on the first few zombies - the wash painting is working out really well for you! I'm using gryphonne sepia over white for my zombie skin, but I don't have the patience or brush control to use it for all their clothes - I tend to try painting new layers too early and end up with a murky mess
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Stung by customers  I have a load of stuff from Dreamforge Kickstarter to come, I know I am going to get stung big time on that
I hate the fact they charge you for holding onto it  not like we asked them to ….
I really hate customs
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It's been soooo long I can't remember.... do you have any Deffkoptas to plant on those awesome landing pads?
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Post by: Skalk Bloodaxe
I can't remember ever seeing any of your terrain I didn't like. You are 100% every time. Really like the gubbins on your most recent work. The little details really sell the idea. What did you do to weather the top? I can see things I recognize, but a small explanation would be great.
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Gits - Thanks a lot bud, who knows, someday I may even get back to the boyz
ldd - I was planning on just a console and maybe some assorted debris. Squig juice vending machine is just asking for a conversion from one of Dave's vendors though
vik - Thanks vik, but don't worry too much, that's far from finished, that was just a base coat and some heavy washes - it's already further along, but it won't be as good as usual I'll admit. I'm just trying variations on stuff as I go along, don't want everything worn in the same manner.
Careful with that site though, even if it's a horrible task to add items to your basket, you'll find it gets pricy rather quickly, too many important bits available
Scarp - Cheers buddy! What table  Those supports are actually for the larger landing pad, need to get on the details for the pad itself now I guess. Loot away my friend, loot away
Yeah, I seem to have been among the first in the UK to get it, and I was shocked when I found everyone else was getting shafted by Customs
Not had a chance to play yet, to be honest I wasn't sure if I'd be playing or just grabbing the minis when I pledged, but It looks fun enough to play. I just know that it'll be a while till I get a chance, certainly not before November, maybe not until that celebration thing we do near the end of the year  I'll surely try a solo game or two beforehand.
Yeah washes work well for these guys, nice and fast and simple. Washes dry pretty quickly so just do a kind of semi-batch job on a few and you should be ok, it's when I start adding inks it can get messy
ldd - Yeah, I'm fairly sure I'll get stung there, possibly even three times
Arakasi - Long time no see, hope everything's good with you. How long till your modelling stuff gets to you? Da Dark Angelz are sorely missed around these parts.
Finished wise, there's Da Red Kount and Bionikopta, but neither of those works well on the pad due to their bases. Rare to see lamp-posts and ruins atop landing pads  There is however the looted landspeeder, or potentially a unit of grot-koptas. The larger pad will take a valk (for future reference  ) or the cylon-based Fighta.
And as they're the same height as the other terrain they can be used as plaza's or some such in the walkway mave, or parking places for the hover-buggy and looted wagon.
But yes, as the landing pads progress more 'koptas or other flyers may appear. Awaiting a couple of Doom Scythes and a Storm Talon for various shennanigans
Skalk - You flatter me sir  Keep it coming
I think I'd argue with 100% of the time, but thank you, I appreciate it.
Yep, always the details
Ok, so let me see, I've been messing around a bit recently without taking any notes, so hopefully nothing utterly stunning comes of it as I won't be able to replicate, but I beleive it was something like this:
Base spray of ogre flesh, over-spray of humbrol sand. Sponge/smearing with dark flesh, light sponge with black. light wash with sepia. Touch up some of the raised tread with silver. sepia wash, with random light touches of thraka and flesh. Devlan around the rim and in splotches across the pad. Vallejo light grey wash in selected areas, touch of badab around the rim. Some random patterns using a large lat brush tapped vertcally to create lines, of sepia, devlan and yellow ink. (The yellow ink is quite low-key in rl, but highly obvious in the pics - probably won't use that in this manner again).
I'll probably do another sepia wash with touches of others and a grey (I love that grey wash, excellent on bare metal) before a light bit of rust powder. After sealing there'll be some oil spills added and maybe a touch more rust.
Something like that anyway  I know I meant to use Dakka as a notepad for my various colour combos, but I seem to actually do that so little - possibly because there's these huge gaps of decent modelling time in between thos eisolated incidents of colouring in
So, what have I got for you lovely, lovely people today?
A little progress on the landing pad.
Quite pleased with how the pump is coming along. Experimented a bit with some Distress crackle paint. Mixed a bit with some crackle medium, some deep green pigment and water, roughly covered a dark flesh undercoat, then added some lighter crackle paint and drybrushed, then again with a bit more of the lighter colour. Because it was watered down and then drybrushed it didn't actually crack, but has produced a nice blistered type effect. Which if I can replicate should look interesting on something like a plague marine, no?
You'll be seeing some more experiments with crackle paints, the main thing i'm trying at the moment is getting coats thock enough to crack, but thin enough to not cover detail. There's some on a few pieces at the moment, in varying states, none of the others have worked as well as I wanted yet though
Finished off the pump room/filtration unit/multi-purpose terrain thingummy bit
May give the roof another dry-brush & wash to blend those panels a bit better, although once again, they're not as hideously visible as that in RL. Once sealed it may get another touch-up of rust - depends on how it looks .
More shambling hordes. You've all seen the movies. Once an outbreak starts, they'll keep spawning....
GS'd some sleeves on one and gave the other a serious chinese burn. Also left a mould line on completely purposefully purley for gaks and giggles.
Couple of runners, proving that zombie co-ordination is crap for hi-fives. Hair on one, sweatbands on the other, both have had arm transplants.
Prison fatty and his doxie. He's looking for an anadin.
Bonus blurry shot.
And a concept for a three-wheeler for a little diorama type thingy I'm contemplating.
Think the rear wheels need to be slimmer, even with mud-guards in place. Maybe grab another FW biker wheel, they're about right I think. Or maybe something completely different, not sure now, but I do want the tricycle arrangement.
And I suspect this next maybe a bit unexpected:
And a little bonus going out to Arakasi
Seems to have lost his dakka, gunner and console in the long aeons since he was last touched
Cheers y'all.
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Post by: inmygravenimage
Very tasty csm. Could this mean you're tempted to start playing with the arrival of the new dex?
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Unlikely
I just felt that the scheme would work well and needed to try it out. I'll possibly do a few more till I can replicate the look of that pump easily. It's kind of a variation on a very rusty theme I have in mind for spiky 'rheens, it's just that I can't recall the method I had previously  Worked realy well on bases then I forgot the method when I went to do a marine
Did almost pick up the new rule book yesterday, but got distracted by comics and paints
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
hmmm... i still have an untouched can of crackle medium in my paint box... good to see some interesting uses shown by you...
and indeed the look suits a nurgle marine to the T...
the first z´s look as if they are about to boogie^^...the rest looks like you´ve found your new niché to paint in... zombies seem to grow on you quite good
and the lil threelegged truck^^ good looking concept...tho slimmer wheels on the rear will make it look perfect... will this be for your orks? will you then add some plating as well?
and yes... visiting artshops always comes with a heavy loss of money... regardless if online or RL^^
and i am all for testing new techniques^^
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Post by: lone dirty dog
The chubby guy and his woman look like strictly come back dancing contestants lol
Stuff looking great love the landing pad, still think you need a squig juice machine mind
The three wheeler did that come with the zombie set then ?
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All good no bad, like the csm, very cool pose
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vik - I'll try and do some tests using just the medium, or the medium mixed with paint/pigment. The main isue is that the paint needs to be a certain thickness to actually crack - although as can be seen on the pump some interesting efects can occur when not quite at that level.
I managed to catch them auditioning for a Thriller video re-make  (note to self, red leather and single glove for one zed  )
The trike-truck is indeed heading back into orky territory, although I'm thinking it'll be one of a set of little diorama/display things I have in mind. The back will be getting covered over, and there will be more plates.
ldd - see audition comment above  As said, I beleive I can switch some radioactive cola for some squig-juice
No, that's a Daihitsu Midget, released by Arii - they have a couple of other three-wheelers in their catalogue which I may need to look up too. Although as their are rules for police-cars and pimp-mobiles in Zombiecide my thoughts have strayed in that direction, believe me  When I was first looking through the box I started to envisage building a town set to play in and everything
bigfish - Cheers fella, I started off trying to build a proper load-out, then thought 'feth it, this is a test-piece, build what you want - just don't make it an awesome detailed conversion in case it all goes tits-up.'
Nothing to report on at the moment, had to go in for stock-taking today, so had to skip the local IPMS show (International Plastic Model Society), which means I missed out on some inspiration and a chance to put a whole bunch of bits on my credit card
Did find this on my desk today though, it had come in yesterday I believe.
Orx trike from Mantic, I think I can use those bits. In fact, those wheels look just about right for the earlier three-wheeler - bonus!
Edited four atroshush spelin innit?
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
note to self, red leather and single glove for one zed LOL... that´s bound to be happening sooner or later, eh? lol... resistance is fultile^^
and yes... that trike looks quite good... well of course we wont see it that way ever again on your desk
so reuse those wheels... will fit like a glove methinks too^^
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Post by: Rogue Wolves
oo that is one cool bike!
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Post by: Ramos Asura
That landing pad looks awesome!! It reminds me how lacking my own terrain is xD
I like that bike, and want one for all its bits and bobs. I never run bikes but I see many uses for the kit!
The Zombies are shaping up well- Nice to see other people doing some Zombicide! I kinda like how youre naming em as ya go!
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vik - Sooner rather than later
Now what makes you think that I'd hack up a perfectly good model to make something else entirely
Rogue - Yeah, it's not bad, gonna have to check out some more of the orx range methinks.
Ramos - Thank you man!
Couple of interesting bits on it, but only 12 pieces in total - if I remember I'll try and get a bitz shot. And your guys seem to have turned green
Cheers, I doubt the naming will continue all the way through the set
So just some quick and cheerful (read shoddy and rushed) GS and wash action.
Lois and Clark, still waiting on pretty much everything. He bent his arm, lost his tie and grew some hair. That last isn't usual behaviour for zombies is it? She's shoved some badly mauled pillows up her shirt and nicked some-one else's head and arm. Rude bitch!
Billy- Jo and Mikey  Mikey needs a serious re-paint, that's horrible - time, proper lighting and concentration are required when painting kids
That's a remark aimed at kids, not about colouring young children or goats
And once Mike was on the scene it was obvious what was gonna happen.....
Keep those dancing feet attached peeps...
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i think this says it all :
i think mickey needs a repaint... as his skin isn´t quite right...
for referrence
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I can see it now... The game is going fine until.... dun dun dunnnn.... Mikey walks on with his retinue. "Yeah then the Zombies start dancing." "Theyre doing what!?" The survivors never had a chance... And you better keep up the naming! Its a weird little touch that sets em apart- I love it! And dude... Vic that bottom pic is epic. I want my own Thriller Mikey bobblehead/statue thingy!!!
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Jackson lives!!!!!
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Post by: lone dirty dog
Dam I should read all your post before taking ideas away from it
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I think you should add this super freak to your zombie hoard
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Post by: weetyskemian44
How thrilling! Theres nothing like a good pop culture reference. I feel like playing this zombie game - or maybe making one of my own. Hoards of zombies coming at ya. Shotguns blasting!
I made an aliens style game once - The player would have 3-4 heavily armed and armoured characters, they have limited but large supplies of ammo and very rapid fire guns and then the games master just throws wave after wave of aliens (genestealers painted black) and once the bullets run out you have to fight them hand to hand (acid burns all over the place). Similar deal to zombies but faster.
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weetyskemian44 wrote:How thrilling! Theres nothing like a good pop culture reference. I feel like playing this zombie game - or maybe making one of my own. Hoards of zombies coming at ya. Shotguns blasting!
I made an aliens style game once - The player would have 3-4 heavily armed and armoured characters, they have limited but large supplies of ammo and very rapid fire guns and then the games master just throws wave after wave of aliens (genestealers painted black) and once the bullets run out you have to fight them hand to hand (acid burns all over the place). Similar deal to zombies but faster.
Now thats a game I could play I get the impression it would not last long though.
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Really like the Robin Reliant looking Trakk. Very Only Fools and Horses....
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Post by: inmygravenimage
^ LOL well orks are cockney geezers, makes sense  "Rodnork you plonka!"
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Thanks for the link Monkey though it's going to hit my wallet
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Post by: Skalk Bloodaxe
100% of the time for the work I have seen. This thread is 56 pages long and you have 1,600 images in your gallery. I haven't seen everything. If you want I can dig through them and post something I didn't like.
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Post by: Scarper
Love the walkers, monkey! The runners in particular are ace - I was wondering how I was going to individualise them with their fairly fixed poses, but your little conversions and limb/head transplants work really well. Love the paintjob on the big guys head wound too - gross!
The dance line ups are pure class - keep up the great work!
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monkeytroll wrote:Arakasi - Long time no see, hope everything's good with you. How long till your modelling stuff gets to you? Da Dark Angelz are sorely missed around these parts.
Every thing's good with me - thanks. Crate arrived last Monday, and I'll be finally sorting out the hobby stuff tomorrow - as I have my first 6th Ed game to attend to. Wish Da Dark Angelz luck - or heads - either is good  I've been holding off relaunching the thread until I'm back in the swing of things - should be soon! In the meantime, thoroughly enjoying your progress!
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vik - Thriller bridge! Woot! That is a pretty cool bobble-head. I was going for the look of his skin circa 2001, think it's pretty close
Ramos - I couldn't be bothered with a re-paint so I decided I'll make another one later. And I'll try and come up with some rules for him too
Maybe a survivor version to go with the zed?
mayajid - Well, kind of
ldd - Always in a rush, never bothering to see what's ahead  And look, you missed a spot too.
But I just built one
weety - Still to play a game myself, but it does look fun, and I've only heard good things from those that have.
Space hulk without the termies then? That was always the hook to get people to play space hulk (non-gaming friends that is) - tell them it's a bit like Aliens. Always got their attention.
ldd - brief, bloody and beautiful I'd imagine
Llamahead - It is a bit isn't it?
graven - Indeed
ldd - No problem, and yes it will
Skalk - No no, that's fine  If you're searching my gallery you're not building or painting
Scarp - Cheers bud! I was debating leaving the zeds as is, but there was no way that was ever going to sit right with me, so quick and easy chops it is. Well, mostly
Arakasi - Good to hear on all counts. Luck with the game, and looking forward to seeing the further adventures of Morgrimm and his boyz. And sorry I wasn't around to get my trukk finished.
So yes, Trotta's Indapendant Traderz are setting up shop near you.
Option 1:
(Those are not the real Del da Boy and Da Plonkork, just stand-ins. Haven't decided yet whether Del will be in a suit with a jacket draped over his shoulders, or a jumper and sheepskin coat)
I'm thinking a stall, with some tables in front, the buggy to the side, the Trottas manning the stall/standing about.
Option 2:
Loading the buggy with a pile of junk that's just fallen off da bak ov a trukk.
And a few more joining the shambles.
That'll do for now, maybe more later.
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option 1, that idea is great and the car is hilariously awesome!
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Post by: inmygravenimage
What about Uncle Albork?
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Rogue - Yeah I think so too, even though the original idea back when I had it was the second option. The pile of junk was an interesting idea, but can be used in the stall scene, and the stall presents some interesting options
graven - It's a possibility, not decided for certain yet. If so, I'm thinking one of the bearded pirate heads
And messing with a big mek with KFF.
Also messing with a kan based on the same legs.
Laters...
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The diorama's a great idea reminds me of the Ork market story in the Rogue Trader Orks. I'd go with the sheepskin coat myself. The Big Mek looks rather Eldritch which I'm not sure go's with Orks. Orks always seem more earthy and brutish than lovecraftian horror. There is nothing subtle about the terror Orks produce.
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I like your "only orks and horses" idea. Ver amusin.
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Give him a file-o-fax.
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I forgot that  yes that as well
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Llama - It's been gestating for a year or so now. If you went back to the page 50 update I think I mention when the idea was formed - it's all weety's fault  I have a couple of TV themed diorama type thingies floating in the ether. I'm hoping for better progress than I've had with the Waaagh-ky Racers. I'm veering towards the sheepskin myslf, but final choice will probably be dependent on the figures I use as bases.
Well, some of the KFF kit on his back is just place-holding at the moment, I was looking for the Talos arm, and just happened to find all those gribblies in the same box (that's quite rare around these parts you know  ) so bunged 'em on. However, yes it is a bit less brutal than one might imagine, but remember that GrimSnik and Upzag have been collecting strays from across the galaxy (and outside), so there's a variety of gear about. The head will probably get swapped out too, that's not a very mekky-tekky bonce.
weety - Cheers. It's all your fault anyway
ldd - Well, let's just hope it gets finished sometime, then we can worry about whether it looks the bomb hey?  But cheers for your confidence
Suitcase noted - remind me if it's not been seen by 2015, I'll be getting close to finishing by then
weety - See previous text.
So a bunch of zeds for you. They're shabby, shambolic and stoopid. But I can't be bothered to re-paint so that's how they'll stay
There's still a few details missing on some - I'll try and point out where I remember, but these guys won't see much more attention from me, they're supposed to be quick and easy jobs, rough around the edges is perfectly acceptable to me for these. I'll probably spend a bit more time on the survivors, and the special characters, but these are basically done - already sealed so that's official
Posed with their 'siblings'.
Clark there still really needs his shoes, belt and buttons done.
Yellow-tracky could do with a wash around his massive splodgy eyeballs.
These lovely ladies still need a couple of washes. The undead really whiff, y'know?
Blue-shirt has a reflection on his face, that's not one massive eyeball - although the eyes are a bit skewed anyway
When they're this close those right hands look a bit dodgy
They're zombies. Their physical bodies are decomposing and this affects their anatomy - OK? Nothing to do with shoddy, rushed ...well, to be fair I'm not sure I can use the word 'sculpting' there  I think 'she' will stay faded like that, possibly add a number to the back of the top, and colour in her z-pod.
One guy needs shoes still, I may re-do the other guy's flouro sox, and MJ needs a complete re-paint - but he ain't gonna get it. It's recognisable at table-top distance and I'll do a better sculpt and paint later. (Maybe)
Grave-girl needs necklace, hair, collar and cuffs and a bit of work on the base. Others will do.
Arbuckle here needs his tool pouch finishing, a sepia wash over the gloves, a black wash over the boots and a few bits of previous dinners over his vest.
Look at that. More 'finished' minis than I normally do in a year
And some more playing with crackle effects.
Tim Holtz Distress crackle paint.
Patchy medium thick layer over black. Paint was stable to the touch - rubbed with fingers and lightly picked at with blade. Watered vallejo flesh ink was applied.
Medium to thick layer over previous uncracked test (using thinned paint). Chips were resistant to fingers, picked out with blade tip. Flesh ink dropped in places then whole given a water wash.
Thick layer over red oxide paste. Big flakes easy to remove with finger-tips, but brings lower layer with it. This could be because the oxide layer had been watered doen in places and may not have cured fully before I applied the crackle. Heavy wash of flesh ink, dabbed off with tissue in places.
Medium layer over red oxide paste. Stable to finger-tip and blade-tip. Heavy wash of flesh ink.
Medium layer over mahogany and unprimed plastic. Bit of scraping with a knife-tip pulled off the crackle and the brown, had to use enough pressure that normal paint would have been ruined. On the unprimed plastic it was flaking off after banging the other side.
Bear in mind that this stuff is very thick, a 'medium' layer will obscure detail of any but the most basic and large. In all cases, once a wash had been applied the paint chips were stable, I could have pulled the large ones from the thicklayer off, but they withstood a fingertip brush. They've all been sealed now and are solid, I'll try some drybrushing on a few.
Right, that little lot should buy me a few minutes....
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Post by: inmygravenimage
I have heard great things about Tim Holtz crackle paints. It seems they were not unfounded!
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Fantastic!
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Yeah, seems like good stuff. Now to experiment with getting thin layers in place for a colour match, with thicker layers for cracking, learn how to control the stuff. And I have a couple of crackle mediums to play with too. Fun!!
Thanks Gits!
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I do hope to see the Waaagh-ky Racers revisited that was a cool concept, plus I want to see Grotters trading done this year
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Ooh, now I've played with Vallejo crackle medium and thought it pointless. Look forward to your efforts!
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They'll be back ldd, can't say when, but they're resting, not retired.
Ahh, now vallejo is one of the mediums I've got, I'll make a note not to expect too much from that one then
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Post by: Bruticus
Wow that crackle looks great, that decides it then, off to ebay I go. Which colour did you use? The clear rock candy?
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
gosh... what a massive update i just missed out on... but it was nice to see it all in one go...!!!
the creckled paint shots really looked super cool! i like that effect... you said it could be peeled off? hmmm... just some testings for later use or for being sure?
and i vote for the first option with that trike car... looks more "completed"... the other option lacks a certain something...
one minor criticism here: the the big mek... with all those facy eldar antennas and stuff... i think what looks wrong here is in fact the eldar stuff... makes him look way too posh and not orky enough... better here some IG antennas then the elven ones...
oh and back to praise...the Z´s look very cool...specially on your neat terrain... looks really like a shot from that music vid of mickey
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Post by: Scarper
That crackle paint is fantastic! I've been trying to convince myself not to get any for a while, but you tipped me over the edge, and I've just gone for a bit of an eBay haul  Really like what you've done with it though - going to add a lot to your terrain!
The zombies look awesome together - great variety in the skin tone. Any chance we could get a shot of them closing in on a beleaguered survivor in some of your beautiful terrain?
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Post by: monkeytroll
Bruticus - I used Shabby Shutters for the above tests, I have some of the clear - that's up for the next set of tests I expect.
vik - A zombie update is a crowded update
Once they'd had a wash only the largest flakes could be peeled off, after a quick spritz with purity seal they're all pretty solid - withstood a drybrushing. And I discovered that rotting flesh is a close match to the shabby shutters
Yeah, I think the stall scene will be the one
The big mek will get more than just DE gubbinz - that was just what was at hand as the concept took shape
Scarp - I'd seen it before, but it was Neil's use of it that made me pop onto ebay myself.  I'm hoping it'll add some more texture to the terrain.
Cheers on the zombies - a stranded survivor shot will have to wait till I've done a survivor
Nothing else to add except a few concepts for some more spiky beakies - at this rate I may have to re-open my chaos thread  Most of these are really just for testing rust/weathering techniques - there'll be some more crackle going on a few. No set units or load-outs, they're all one-of-a-kinds - or at least that's the plan
May fiddle around with a custom pack for this guy.
Not decided on a right arm for this dude yet - I'm thinking maybe a pointing arm?
Something will happen to that bolt-pistol.
Liked the idea originally, but not convinced by it after a day.
And what good Slaaneshi marine doesn't want a pair of feth-me killer heels of doom?
'He's not da mekaniak, he's a very norty boy'
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
high heel marine... somehow makes me think of a new barbie^^
the double wielder is sub par as we´ve been spoiled with so many awesome minis from you that the normal gets average and the average gets looked at as sub par... what a dilemma...
Something will happen to that bolt-pistol. LOL..
Not decided on a right arm for this dude yet - I'm thinking maybe a pointing arm?
well... that would work... because mostly of the head and its view... but i need to point out (pun  ) that the shaft of that chainaxe is to thick...!
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Post by: neil101
I think i am in the wring blog ,...
oh await in minute.. i see a marine in high heels , yep monkeys thread alright.. ;-) reopening your chaos thread wouldn't be such a crime imo.. always had fancy for the wip carrying commissar of yours.. nice reviews on the crackle stuff btw..
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Post by: adamsouza
I don't post in this thread often enough. Been lurking and taking in your work as it progresses.
The zombies are coming along nicely. The Thriller Zombie was a nice touch.
Thank you for documenting your crackle experiments. That stuff could come in really handy when working on industrial terrain.
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Post by: Briancj
The crackle effect REALLY looks like the photos I've seen of abandoned ex-Soviet bases. It really captures that 'paint peeling off of the wall' look. Bravo!
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Post by: weetyskemian44
I love that guy's fancy legs. I bet he gets all the sailors whistling at him.
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Post by: dsteingass
Fantastic Stuff Monkey! I love the shamblers (Wargames Factory?) And the crackle effect is fantastic! I have some craft-paint variety, but it doesn't work that well! I can see myself doing that to a 4x4' sheet of hardboard to fit into my table as a Wasteland board. The cracks are perfect, because it's exactly like dry ground crackles!
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Post by: monkeytroll
vik - I'm not sure Slaanesh and Barbie is such a good mix - those dolls have no sexy bits you know
Nah, he's sub-par because he's sub-par  It was really just the combination of the Templar chained chainswords (  ) with the chained torso that caught my eye, but the pose is not great by any standard. Even though these were supposed to be quick and nasty pieces for weathering/rust experiments I still wanted something with a bit more 'je ne sais quoi'.
Well, it's a bit Imperial looking at the moment isn't it
Yeah, yeah, that was just the nearest bit of tube that was relatively close to what was required - it's not the finished deal by any means. Not that I don't appreciate the heads-up, even if it should be obvious by now that anything I post as a 'concpt' is likely to be something completely different by the time it becomes a 'reality'. And yeah, the pose does just seem to cry out for a pointy hand doesn't it?
neil - No that's Dave's thread your thinking of there...OH, I see, I thought that was 'wiring blog'  A bit of colour now and again keeps you lot on your toes I find
Not suggesting it would be a bad thing - just that it would probably be a short-lived thing judging by previous updates
And thank you for pointing out the crackle paints - it was your use of them that persuaded me to grab some. There'll be more tests with them later.
adam - No worries, I can say the same about your blog
If I can keep something like that pace up (which I won't...but..) I could even get a respectable horde up and running...or shambling, whichever. MJ had to be done really, and as I've said, I'll try a better version later.
I can see a whole load of uses for that stuff, going to be fun learning the ins and outs of it.
Brian - It does seem to be great stuff, a very handy addition to the tool kit.
weety - He does. And then he takes them back to his pad and does unspeakable things to them.
Unfortunately, not the kind of unspeakable things they were hoping for..
dstein - They're from the Zombiecide kickstarter (those things have ruined any chance of me having savings for my old age  ), but I feel a pull from some of the other companies now - and a good use for some of the non-heroic minis tha I struggle to find homes for.
Yeah, a thinnish coat will produce those fine cracks, I was also thinking that would make some good ground effects - you'll be seeing it on some bases soon no doubt. In fact, some of the zeds got a very thin coat on their bases - doesn't crack but added a bit of extra texture.
So nothing much to report at the moment. I have just started clipping sprues for the two night scythes and the stormtalon I just received, so you can probably expect me to go off on some other strange tangent shortly
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
well will you be adding shoulderpads to this not-it guy then?or disassemble him for being boring?  would serve him right haha^^ or you could built him comletly and then treat him with a dose of nailpolish remouver... let him rot...and then you have instant nurgle feel for not too much fussing around
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Post by: monkeytroll
Well I was thinking of sending him to Resyk, but after a bit of playing I reckon it'll work if I repose his arms so the swords are almost crossed in front of his body with him looking to the side rather than staring down the length of one outstretched sword. But I feel I may end up hacking at those necron flyers tomorrow night instead  We'll see....
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
SM don´t need to look what their weapon arms are doing...their spider senses tell them this...  so he is free to watch telly or read a mediocre book while chopping around aimlessly
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Post by: Skalk Bloodaxe
I thought I could not be any happier today when I found out my Imperial Sector showed up.
I was wrong.
This is going to change a lot for me. http://rangerink.com/?product=tim-holtz%C2%AE-distress-crackle-paint
You, good sir, are an amazing resource of awesomeness.
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
well... i hope to see this stuff used soon... then maybe i could get around using mine too...
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Post by: monkeytroll
vik - Well, the original idea was he was glaring down the sword at his next victim - 'You next!'. Just wasn't feeling it after a while. No aimless chopping here, he's chaosy not orkses
Skalk - I thank you sir. But it was Neil who put me onto the stuff in the first place  Shout out to Neil-boy!!
Look forward to seeing what you get up to with it.
vik - Yeah, get on it - we want to see some flaky paint stuff
So clipped the two scythes, the storm-chibi and an assorted selection of part-clipped sprues (mainly valk, chimmy and russ).
Yay! Anuva box o'bitz for da workshop.
And first out of the box we have a concept of some sort of flyer (probably a fighta I'd guess, but you can never be sure where it's going to go at this stage  )
Need to find/make some big ol' props for the ends of those wings, maybe see if I can figure out a not-too-messy way of getting the side wings to angle down slightly. Originally the top wing was going to be atop the 'spine' with it heading in it's original direction, but I decided reversing the hull worked slightly better.
Maybe more later....
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
lol... i will search for a worthy project then... any ideas?
and i am atm feeling not too sure about that necron merger flyer...we´ll see what you can litteraly cobble together on this one
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Post by: monkeytroll
Well I'd say your Viktorians need some nice dilapidated industrial terrain to fight over  Yeah, probably not to everyone's taste  I have further cunning plans below...
Decided that angling the wings down isn't a viable idea for this one. The circuit-patterned wing roots are part of the hull pieces - a lot of hacking and covering up to get the effect from there, and drooping the end section just looks broken - in a bad way  But also with that hull, angling the wings breaks the lines in a bad way too, so they'll stay straight. However...
Although I like the tri-wing look (there's a lot of three's scattered around Upzag's boyz) I thought I might play with a four-wing look:
And with an eldar cockpit:
So I kinda prefer the stubbier look of the 'talon cockpit, although I like the extra length of the vyper, and in some ways the curves fit better with the wings. I might see if I can dig out a valk cockpit and try that as another option - was toying with a bubble-type cockpit briefly, but I think not.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Agreed. And your upper wing is crooked... and I don't think the propellers are oriented in the same direction...
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
ok... the four wing flyer is now winning me over... the blades of the propellers tho needs to be scratched and bendy... i know... me being unpatient^^
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Post by: inmygravenimage
I like the four wing too, but I like the stubby, boxy cabin.
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Post by: Dr H
I like the concept. I too prefer the boxy cabin. Also, if you are going for a curvy look all over then the propellers should probably be curvy and not straight like you have there... Just a thought.
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Post by: Zeke 169
Four wings, I think I would like to see the valkyrie cockpit, give you that forward extension but still being boxy.
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Post by: monkeytroll
Thanks guys!! I think I'll be going with the four-wing stubby look, maybe just a small collar between the cockpit and main hull.
And when I get round to doing the real propellers, yes, I'll probably do more than just stick some plasticard strips in some blu-tack
Quite likely a variety of styles
I was going to say the same about the dakka too, but now I've been looking at it a while (It's been sat in front of me while I scoff pizza) I think they just need a bit of detailing and they'll be good.
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Post by: Arakasi
Ambitious. I'm not feeling it at the moment (I think it's either the props on the back or the un-Orky techno curves), but I assume we are early on in the Monkeytroll Magic, so I have high hopes
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Post by: monkeytroll
Cheers for the vote of confidence
I'm hoping the curves will fit in alongside the grot-jet:
With bonus valk for size comparison
There'll obviously be a few plates and wires added to the wings.
I was originally thinking of having the dakka on turrets coming from the wing-discs, but that doesn't work so well with the four wing look, and I prefer them in their current placement anyway. I  'm aware it would probably look more 'realistic' with jets rather than props - but that's part of why I went with props  I'll have a look about for some after-market aircraft props, I'm not decided yet on 3, 4 or many blades for them, or whether they'll all be the same.
Maybe turn one of those discs into a hatch with a grot peering out..
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Post by: Rogue Wolves
wow thats the best use of the moon fighter ever!
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Post by: Gitsplitta
You live on the water?? You lucky dog!
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
oh... sweet looking landing platform... the verdigris is looking superb...
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Post by: KingCracker
Yea, thanks to you Monkey, I found a CD case like that, and think I will turn it into some terrain along those lines. Pretty clever, and it looks awesome!
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Post by: weetyskemian44
Maybe you could have done better monkey but that is still a beaut. So very rusty and corroded. .
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Post by: monkeytroll
Gits - Yeah!  Although it's just about this time of year that it starts to feel not so lucky - having a huge heat sink a few inches under my feet doesn't work so well in the depths of winter
vik - Cheers mate!
KC - Thanks man, I'll be keeping an eye out to see what you do with the idea
weety - Cheers! I think I need to concentrate on getting a few bits and pieces finished, rather than worry about getting them perfect - not that I'll ever achieve that, but hey. I can live with terrain pieces being not quite up to scratch - at least, I tell myself I can.
And on that note, let's take a look at an old, old friend:
Not a huge amount of progress since he was last spotted - final details and a base. It's been such a while since he last appeared that he's probably fresh for some of you anyway
And apologies, but I am going to spam a bunch more pics of him in a moment, need to go through the shots taken in the lightbox first
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Post by: Gitsplitta
LOL! That's fantastic mate! Takes cyboar to a whole new level.
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Post by: monkeytroll
Gits - Thanks budy!
OK, lightbox pics of above dude, and an attempt at using GIMP to collage:
Hmm, thought I'd sorted those white spaces, oh well, next time monkey, next time
A few more oldies geting some paint, but no more will be finished tonight as it's now dark and rainy outside, so no sealing. Depending how it goes, maybe something later.
In the mean-time, a blast from the past (the real past, not this thread ) gets stripped of his old metallics to get a re-paint.
Thanks for popping in, see you soon...
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Post by: shasolenzabi
Nice nostalgia models, Love the Cy-boar with biker gunz
Oh have not seen that model in decades, the one with the wild gun! Space Pirates range from GW if I am correct as to what it came from?
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Post by: monkeytroll
Cheers shaso!
Actually from before then, that one was from '85, just known as PA Trooper - pre-dated RT. You can see the influence on the very first marines from this guy - the boots and the firearms.
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Post by: lone dirty dog
Cy-Boar is amazing mate  the paint job is just as great as well ……….. now where did I put my boars
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
cyboar looks really spiffy.... vibrant colors! and the lightbox pics are worth the hazzle...!
the scratches on the handguard, just to take one detail out of a big hat...very good looking!!!
and i am eagerly awaiting the painting of that astronaut!
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Post by: Arakasi
Bad Mooz Looted Fighta? Must do! (But you only need the one flying croissant right?)
Landing pad is looking great.
Nice to see the Cyboar again and moving along.
Keep'em coming!
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Post by: shasolenzabi
monkeytroll wrote:Cheers shaso!
Actually from before then, that one was from '85, just known as PA Trooper - pre-dated RT. You can see the influence on the very first marines from this guy - the boots and the firearms.
Ah, I think that they had kept them anyway for pirates and mercs, but yes, you can see pre-MK-1-6 Pwer armore concepts in that mini. Included are also the chain blade attachement from the old RT days of SM
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Post by: Llamahead
Really hope they put Cyboars back into the Codex as Boarboyz are one of my favourite Epic units.
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Post by: monkeytroll
ldd - Thanks mate! They run off if they get a whiff of what you're planning...
vik - Glad you think so, me too, and thanks.
That'll be my old favourite yellow again
I'm still deciding on a good scheme for him, I keep rejecting the ones I've come up with so far.
Arakasi - Only one croissant per looted moon ship, aye
Cheers, I didn't get it all to gel together as much as I'd hoped, but it'll do
Just need to check back in the blog to find what plans I had for the other riders now
I'll try!!
shaso - Yeah, I think he may have been re-issued or kept around, I have two and I'm sure I picked them up years apart. Was hoping to dig out those very same marines too, but they seem to have absconded from their expected lurking place...most perturbing....
Llama - Cyboar chemical injectipn FTW
Rummaging around earlier for the afore-mentioned marines I cam across my stash of 80's guard/mercs patiently waiting to become a rogue trader's force, when I realised how easily most of them could become Mega-City 1 cits/perps. With extensive drops of Dredd figs incoming I may have to re-look at my plans for that RT force
And another one gets a risky dose of fog-bound sealing...
I'll take beauty shots tomorrow - after I've fixed a few things I noticed on the lovely big pics
Da rokkiteer iz still in da Dok's surjary, so's I done good 'n' looted some 'sperimentul ortomatik dakka for now - didn't need much speshul modifikashuns or da like
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Post by: Gitsplitta
That's so funny!
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Post by: lone dirty dog
Scrap heap challenge springs to mind with that one  and a hint of Eco warrior
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Post by: Anvildude
You mean Junkyard Wars, right?
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
that trike is really cool looking! the flame glyph is looking very good... one of my favorite details of that model!... and you painted some of the metal plaings in green... certainly something fresh and different in a world of blue/red and yellow... i like that!
what i am feeling a bit not sold on is that cablearm on his right... too flimsy looking for an ork if i may utter my opinion here...
and where would i find the WIP pics if that thing again? i don´t recall how it looked unpainted anymore
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Post by: inmygravenimage
Looking great as always mate. It's interesting to see your approach to "clean" (non-corroded) metals. You get them crisp yet oily somehow. Care to share your methods?
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Post by: Yggdrasil
Seems lile you haven't run short of ideas with your Orks !
Love the flyer concept, but preferred the boxy cockpit too...
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Post by: neil101
Great atmosphere to the cyboar pics mate.. the chaos warrior dude is a brilliant sculpt .. has he received paint yet ?
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Post by: monkeytroll
Gits - Glad to amuse  Have to inject that odd light note now and again- contrary to popular belief it's not ALL grimdark in the 41st
ldd - Orks recycle loads, orks is green
Anvildude - Opinion amongst UpZag's mob is divided on the two - whilst most acknowledge that the Challengers are a better lot than the Warriors, they also say that the JunkYard has some interesting bitz that they never see in the ScrapHeap
vik - Cheers! The flames were an idea Arakasi mentioned for another build - I ignored his advice there but used it here instead
Agreed on the cable arm - one of the 'small details' I realised I hadn't finished was the fact that he was supposed to have three mekka-dendrits coming out of that socket
*Activate enthusiastic voice operations mode* Well, by nipping back to the handy index/guide just a few pages back (that's page 50 folks  ) I can see that you need to go all the way back to pages 10-12 to see the genesis of this wonder of the roadways.
*Activate depressed voice operations mode* And whilst your there, you may very well notice what state both this vehicular conveyance and the afore-mooted mechanical boar hybrid were left in at that time. Armed with said knowledge you will no doubt find it astounding to see how little was actually needed to progress from then to here....
graven - Thanks bud! Certainly...err, which bit in particular?  Most of the cleaner metals go something like this:
Darkened boltgun or mithril, black wash, drybrush with mithril, devlan wash, drybrush with mithril.
Sometimes there's a few more washes, sometimes I'll use liquitex iridiscent silver to get a bit more 'shiny' in there, variations on this basically. If you have a piece in mind I'll try and recall the specific recipe for that.
And I'll try and note more paints down when on those odd occasions when I do use them  That is one of the handy things about these blogs after all, much harder to lose than one of the fifteen hundred notebooks that have previously been used for noting colour combos.
Yggs - Never run short of ideas, just the time to get them all out  Nice to see you back around.
Yeah, it'll be keeping the boxy cockpit, the valk's far too long for this version, so it'll stay as is. Currently, it's sitting on the 'shelf' at the back of the desk, I'm just letting it stay there, in my line of sight, for a while before getting to work on it.
neil - Thank you, but you can hardly call my static shots atmospheric after all your terrain pics mate  No colours on any of the afore-seen pieces to date I'm afraid.
Oh, except for a little bit of work on Da Judj, he's almost done - spurred on by the thought of all the mega-city goodness to come
So, not a lot happening in the workshop at the moment, but a few things have crept in around the revising...
Firstly, I ain't gonna be using many of the old Dredd figures with the new:
Maybe I'll have a whole gang of juve jimps  (As an aside, you can see here that Cilit Bang is not as effective as fairy Power Spray in the stripping department  )
I spotted this before grabbing shed loads of old minis off ebay to bulk out incoming goodies (as if they need it - or I need more figures to work on  ). I had grabbed various figures and bits to build up gangs and citizens though, and all the old GW guys I had earmaked are going to need to find new projects now though
But hey, citizens and muties are all shapes and sizes, especially in MC-1, so I'll still use the guys I was building up as citizens:
Yeah, not the best quality stuff, but they'll do for cits I reckon - trying not to spend huge swathes of time converting stuff up for this, keep it basic (mainly  )
Whilst trawling ebay for, well, basically for pretty much anything shiny really, I did find these:
Very nice, Anderson, Chief Judge McGrude and I think Giant - although looking again, I'm not sure that's what the badge reads - guess I'll wait till it's painted up to find out  Forgotten where the seller said they were from now, think it might have been Wargames Foundry
They scale a lot better:
Oops, colour. How'd that get there?
Ok, I admit it, I've made a start on a few JD things...
Not too far off actually - and yes I know the riot judges respirator should be red - not sure if the shield's plain yellow or not though?
OK, so some colours, as I said I would, and judges are probably a sensible thing to keep similar
Uniform- Vallejo black with about 4:5 flouro blue added. Reckon I'll not highlight, just gloss varnish - maybe a blue wash first.
Yellow - Tau sept ochre, drybrush with a mix of golden yellow and vallejo pale yellow, vallejo sepia wash, another drybrush, then add more pale yellow for another drybrush and a final of just pale yellow.
Green - Vallejo lime green with about 1:4 intermediate green, drybrush with pale yellow added to mix, thraka wash, drybrush, add pale yellow for another drybrush, catch the tips with a bit more yellow added. (Not the green I was going to go for, I was going to start with gretchin green, but then realised I was very low on that, and didn't want to start now and then have to figure out a similar mix when I do more judges)
Blood red.
Helmet is black, again I'm thinking of just glossing the helmets.
Think the visor will be light blue, darken the body of the lawgiver & add the light, add the boot knives - guess I should have done the handles/guard yellow. That's about it, then decide on how the basing's going to work.
A citizen shows off his new kneepads.
Horrible messy looking base colours so far, but it shows the bright colours I'm going for with the majority of cits and perps. Probably going to go for black-lining on a fair-bit of these guys, think it'll add to the comic-book feel. May end up as devlan-lining or similar, we'll see.
And a slightly larger citizen grabs his synth-burger.
He easily loses a few pounds with those vertical stripes
Will it be a smiley, a logo or just plain yellow? Who knows?
And a lovely family pic to finish
Ahhhh!
Here a friendly don from the ape gang models for Tom Baker's new collection.
That's about it till next time...
edited for the first spelling mistake...
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Post by: neil101
Now thats what i call britcit goodness.. Judges juves and bellywheels .. great stuff mate.
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Post by: monkeytroll
There'll be more to come. I'm working on ideas for terrain and vehicles too - obviously something new and shiny sets the ADD off big-time  I see a good use of Infinity style terrain here, holo-displays, walkways, vendor units and the like.
I've been re-reading the JD case-files for inspiration, and so now my head is bursting with tangents to go off on
I was asked about size compared to SM, so a few bonus pics on that subject:
So that's a metal DA, most of a metal squat, a new judge courtesy of mongoose, and a plastic SM; all against the lovely backdrop of an old-skool rhino.
And that be a plastic ork, that same judgey-wudgey, and a metal cadian - this time they're posing against a prototype lawmaster..err I mean a marine bike.
And just out of interest, let's see how the orang-utan stacks up to an old GW paranoia guard and a plastic marine.
Be seeing you...
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Post by: inmygravenimage
Wow. You are the law. I came across a pack of arbites the other day and considered doing them as straight mc-1 judges. Love the classic figs, especially the fatty - although I feel a watermelon motif would've been more flattering  that squat looks perfect in there, btw. Wasn't there a futsie on a trike way back in the day?
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Post by: lone dirty dog
I would first like to congratulate you on answering all your admirers feedback  not many would take the time out of their day to answer all.
I cant believe you are about to embark on yet another project  although it is amazing how much a movie can inspire
I would like to recommend Puppetwars bike for an alternative conversion worthy Law Master, especially if you want an old Skool feel to it
Now what has happened to the Only Ghouls and worthless scene
The squat looks great so far you really must finish him
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Post by: weetyskemian44
Is that squat smoking a three sheeter? Hes a perp! Judge dred will arrest him fo sure.
Glad to see you exploring unusual alleyways of the hobby.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
That squat looks like he's holdin' it in... right before the big exhale! LOL!
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Post by: Dr H
Probably paranoid that the Judge right behind him will notice something strange about him... just...act...normal...
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Dr H wrote:Probably paranoid that the Judge right behind him will notice something strange about him... just...act...normal...
LMAO  do another one holding a bong …...
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Post by: dsteingass
LOL@ Three Sheeter
If you though the Hobbit leaf was good, wait till you try some of that Dwarven shiit!
Quite the motley crew you have there Monkey!
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graven - Always a temptation with the arbites - I was actually expecting the mongoose minis to be slightly smaller than GW, going to be harder to incorporate all the old-skool hive gangers and imp army dudes into gangs of mega-city now.
I'm more pleased with the fatty than I thought - swapped out a box of them for an ape gang on bikes as I didn't think the sculpts looked all that. Grabbed a single just to bulk out the citizenship and now I've handled one I have to say I'll be getting some more.
Yeah, after putting the squat in that pic I thought he might make it into a cursed earth biker gang. Can't remember the futsie, but for some reason I never got big into the old JD figs, probably 'cause we only played the rpg occasionally, and didn't use figs - I was still focusing my minis on what I played with at that time. However, there will be futsies in my set for sure.
ldd - Well, if peeps go to the effort of visiting and leaving comments, it would be rude not to acknowledge them.  Plus it makes it more likely they'll comment again.
Boredom sets in whenever the current total of ongoing projects drops into double figures.  No need for inspiration from the movie (although it is very cool, Urban is Dredd! High hopes they'll make the planned trilogy now) I just got caught up big-time in the kickstarter and the thought of those masses of mega-city goodies has me hyped right up! Although some of that was also due to me realising what a wealth of old-skool minis I had that could be used for this - there was a big drop in excitement when I noticed the scale issue, although that passed - there's plenty more goodness for those guys.
The mongoose lawmaster looks pretty cool - I'll wait till I have my gruby mitts on that before making any plans for more - obviously SM bikes as a base are always in the back of the mind due to the numbers of them floating around, but bikes are for later (having said that, I expect the lawmaster in the next week or so)
Don't worry about Del da Boy and Rodnork, they'll still be about - and if you were expecting to see much progress by now you've not been paying attention to how this blog works
Hah, that paint is humbrol enamels from over 20 years ago  He was part of a planned diorama based around a 40k bike meet - a beer tent/stage, several bikes of different races parked about, and a drag race between a black vincent and an ork kustom. Who knows, that may re-surface at some point in the misty future, don't hold your breath though.
He's actually been brought up to the table several times in the past for planning purposes - normally around a rogue trader's retinue - no doubt he'll see the light of day at some point - possibly into a mutie gang as mentioned above.
weety - Nah, that's just a single skinner - he's only a wee chappie right?
Well, things should take on some interesting turns from around christmas and well into the new year with the various Dredd, dreamforge, dreadball and bombshell stuff I pledged for - anyone would think I'm running out of stuff to work on. Some of that stuff was got with an eye on the conversion potential obviously, but I reckon there'll be a few more intriquing tangents for me to explore next year - I'm getting drawn to the idea of individual pieces and dioramas again, which was a main focus of mine way back when. Hopefully the byways I take will be of interest to some
Gits - *inhales 'Well man, you know, it's purely medicine...medicati...med..medi...medicinal man. Purely medicinal, it's for pain relied..I've lost an arm if you hadn't noticed dude. Just for pain relief.' Exhales 'Woooooooooooooo'
Dr H - Nah. he ain't the paranoid type, he's ice-cool. But that's because he does believe he's invisible and the judge can't see him
ldd - That's more likely to appear on a dio...Boing however  Hmm, a dwarf in a boing ball - You know, the outstretched pose of a bike rider might just work for that, time to hunt the clear balls down me-thinks!
dstein - Yeah, the dwarf bikers know their stuff, but then some of the elf hydroponic set-ups are out of this world
So minor catch-up.
Current state of the citizens:
Paint looks horrible at this stage, but you know, it's colour, and that's not often seen 'round these here parts.
Any ideas for sign slogans? I need to re-read some of the fatty stories for ideas myself.
Got a robodoc on the go:
Decided I wanted the same tentacular arms as the comic version rather than the multi-jointed ones that come with the mini.
I may have to do another running amok
Simple arm move on a Klegg:
Need to add some detailing to the shoulder armour, maybe something on the sleeve too, the Kleggs as drawm by Bolland were pretty clean and basic like these guys, then McMahon's versions were a bit more techy which I'm aiming for.
Also thinking about a Judge Grampus, might be a fun little thing.
And of course, the klegghounds:
Well, first I need to lose the tail as klegghounds don't have tails. At least, not in any of the stories I've just been re-reading. Was thinking of other options too (another time to wish I still had all my lizardman minis), I quite like the body I used for the squighound - I think I have one more somewhere. IIRC it's an old slaan warhound, so I'm pretty much stuck with just the one I have if I go that route - not going to be that easy to pick one up. I'll have to check out some more options before making a decision on the hounds I think.
And a bit of terrain:
It was some sort of dessert container - something lemony I think, but can't recall just what at the moment, been saving it for years, never quite found a 40k use for it, but odd shapes abound in the mega-cities.
Oh yeah, and started off another chaos dude:
Used to be one of my gene-marines - a squad of 'hybrid marines' (ie, old RTB01 marines with a 'nid place just glued in place of a head or arm  ) that were led by the very old Marneus Calgar on throne figure, except I'd replaced his head with that of a genestealer. Most were broken up completely - I think this guy's head was too firmly superglued to come off when they originally got purged.
Give him an old ork arm and a set of tracks, he's good to go again - I'm hoping his backpack will be a bit interesting - just changed my mind with where I was going with it and am awaiting the results.
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Post by: lone dirty dog
The bright colours makes them look like they have just jumped out the comic itself  which I have to say I LOVE
I cant believe the amount stuff you hoard especially when you think you live on a boat  well it all looks pretty dam cool and I love the fact you pick out old stuff and rework it.
Once again did not see what I was expecting to but enjoyed what I did immensely, I think it is almost time to revisit the dastardly muttley project again
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Post by: Dr H
monkeytroll wrote:
Hah, that paint is humbrol enamels from over 20 years ago
Dr H - Nah. he ain't the paranoid type, he's ice-cool. But that's because he does believe he's invisible and the judge can't see him
Any ideas for sign slogans? I need to re-read some of the fatty stories for ideas myself.
Yay, big up the Humbrol enamels
Oh, I see, of course he's invisible... lol
I've just had a flick through my few 2000AD comics, which even included a fatty story. But could I find a single slogan or sign, could I  !
Although, I did get a couple of ideas. "I am not a sheep" or something obvious about food / grub, or "love the belli-wheel".
The other thing; I came across a Dredd story ( http://www.comicvine.com/2000ad-prog-893/37-126118/) with robot judges which were much taller than Dredd et al. I thought that, with a bit of GS, you could turn those old "too tall" Dredd figures into robot judges.
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Post by: shasolenzabi
Ah, the nostalgia.
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Post by: weetyskemian44
I vote for a smiley face. Is the fatty riding some kind of mobility scooter? Can we get a low shot of him if you have a mo?
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Post by: lone dirty dog
It is a stomach support so in a sense yes it is.
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Post by: weetyskemian44
Stomach support - lol I know a few customers in my shop who need one of them. We are a magnet for comfort eaters. It has totally put me off snack food.
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Post by: monkeytroll
ldd - Well, that was part of the plan
It's not hoarding  Oh no siree. No, you see, what it actually is...... well it's err... it's like this you see...now...umm..what it is, is, it's hoarding. Yep, it's hoarding all right
You're still expecting to see continuity in the work shown here  I'll leave it to vik to pull up a Spanish Inquisition hit, I know he has a stash ready to hand
Dr H - And those very same paints would still be usable if I dug 'em out of my folk's garage  That's proppa old-skool
Yeah, he's probably not be completely honest when he claims it's just for pain relief
I re-read Case File 6 last night - that had the League of Fatties storyline in  So now I definitely want more fatties so I can put together a League gang  And I'd forgotten about their food troughs too, have to work in some of them. (See ldd - it's just the whole mega-city thing that gets me excited  )
Was that the mechanismo? Mongoose are releasing those too. But my issue was the other way round, it's the old GW minis that are tiny - a whole gang of juve jimps is the only use I'll get out of those here. Hmm, unless it involved a diorama using forced perspective...think I still have some 15mm judges somewhere too....
shaso - Indeed
weety - I'm thinking so too, but I'll wait till the rest is finished before yay or nay time. Bugger, forgot the belly-wheel shot - I'll grab one with the next bunch.
ldd - Belly-wheel lad, belly-wheel!
weety - Hopefully they're not close to a tonne yet though
Bits and bobs done, a couple of which I might show you if you're lucky. Ohh, you're unlucky, I'll show you some other stuff then...
There's a huge variety of transport available in MC-1, including the ever popular retro-styled hovercar.
Should have left it all blue, the silver sides are rough as after many coats, didn't take well at all to the blue below. Messy, very messy, I'll get the details done, add a wash or two and some highlights and call it a day for this I think. And yes, I went for the easy option of blacking out the windows. I didn't want to spend a load of time creating interior detail on this, plus...there's magnets behind four of the windows which will take guns to turn it into a mob blitzer wagon if needed
And hooked dudey here up to his back-pack
He was going to get a shiny, swirly, floating ball, but then I decided to cover it in oxide paste and crackle paint
Still needs abit of work, and starting to put together a base for him.
Couple of the cits are pretty much there, I'll wait till they're done before posting as they're so close as is.
Err, yeah, reckon that's about it...
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Post by: lone dirty dog
Is that car one of these by any chance  strange because blue and silver were the 2 colours I was thinking of using for one of mine.
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Post by: inmygravenimage
As long as you have graffiti that says "Chopper lives!" I'll be happy! How about a Munce burger add? Or reference other random Sci-fi: "Spoo: the other blue meat" or "Slurm: it's highly addictive!"?
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Post by: Dr H
monkeytroll wrote:
Dr H - And those very same paints would still be usable if I dug 'em out of my folk's garage  That's proppa old-skool
That is unless the lid isn't quite on right...
Yeah, he's probably not be completely honest when he claims it's just for pain relief
I re-read Case File 6 last night - that had the League of Fatties storyline in  So now I definitely want more fatties so I can put together a League gang  And I'd forgotten about their food troughs too, have to work in some of them. (See ldd - it's just the whole mega-city thing that gets me excited  )
Was that the mechanismo? Mongoose are releasing those too. But my issue was the other way round, it's the old GW minis that are tiny - a whole gang of juve jimps is the only use I'll get out of those here. Hmm, unless it involved a diorama using forced perspective...think I still have some 15mm judges somewhere too....
Good luck with the fatties. I was reading "Requiem of a heavy weight" about an eating contest.
Yes it appears it was Mechanismo ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanismo), I only had one of the later sorylines "Conspiracy of Silence".
I see, not much room for tiny judges
Forced perspective could be fun though.
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Post by: inmygravenimage
If you want JD stuff (or, anything random and obscure) have a look at the auctions just posted on ebay by ewarnerlib. It's the wife of a friend who recently died from cancer, and they are selling of an enormous amount of stuff that the big fella horded over the years. Worth a look.
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Post by: monkeytroll
ldd - Indeed they are, couldn't resist when you showed 'em, but honestly thought they'd be sitting around for a few years before I found a home for them  It would have been better if I'd gone for the original premise of bright red, but no, I had to go the metallic route didn't I?
graven - There's Chopper graff on the 40k terrain - of course it'll be featured in MC-1! Especially as Chopper was one of my lawbreaker choices in the KS Well as it happens a Munce burger ad is damn close, but that may get re-done later. Randomn sci-fi references? Well, although that is the preserve of my cyborks, I reckon you'll be seeing something of that ilk
Spoo?  Had to look that one up, never caught much of B5
Dr H - Well there is that, but then again the humbrol lids were more likely to close properly than certain GW pots
So after my head imploded under the strain of revision I did a bit of work on the cits (as always, pics show that I dodn't do quite enough, but c'est la vie)
First off, let's get that bellywheel shot for weety:
Otto Sump's Flabbon...for that fuller figure.
Couple of average joes:
So, yellow jacket needs his armband sorting out, but they'll just about past muster otherwise. Bit sloppy and the highlights aren't showing wel but what can you do? Apart from spend more time and concentration on the job that is.
I wanted that to be a little heli-pad on his shoulder - knew I wouldn't pull it off with white on grey though, so went with a micropen instead - still not great.
And an average Jill:
And Mrs Thatcher has temporarily misplaced her hand-bag, I'll have to replace that.
Sloppy around the feet and base - why is none of this visible till I've taken pics?
And Cyril Smith to go with Maggie?
Again, sloppy in places, I'll need to clean up the back and the shoes. And yes, there's a whopping great mould line across his back. And I haven't black-lined his shoes.
There's a bit more shading on the top and trousers in RL - you may notice the shots aren't taken in a usual spot, due to lighting issues. I was relatively happy with the flesh, as it's not often I'm away from green skin  Needs to be a lot smoother yet, and for charactr work would need a lot more layers, but hey, these guys are basically nothing but 'scenery' for a game I don't play. They can be a bit rough round the edges
I do think a fatty would make an excellent figure to paint to a high standard though, maybe later.
That's all from me...
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Post by: Dr H
Otto Sump's Flabbon. lol
Looking good so far.
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Post by: dsteingass
Wow Monkey! These are all great! The MARX car is fantastic!! Excellent color choice!
You've really been inspired!!
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Post by: lone dirty dog
The Max Car colour is spot on and for the JD universe works well maybe a little wash or two might help though, love the citizens paint jobs they really jump out at you its like reading a comic.
Fatty is great and looks amazing (ok mould line naughty) but great scheme and the flesh has turned out well mate
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Post by: weetyskemian44
This will be fun to see. Mega city is such a satirical place.
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Post by: inmygravenimage
Love the Munce sign!
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Post by: monkeytroll
Dr H - Cheers! That was almost the sign, but I figured that needed some extra bling - like those spiky special offer stickers
dstein - Thanks bud! The silver turned out to be a nightmare going over the blue, still a bit patchy if you look hard - just as well this wasn't planned on being a showpiece  I need to re-stock on quarter-circle rods so I can do a decent job on the undersides of the next versions. That just got some plasticard, a chariot base and some offcuts from a tube.
What can I say, MC-1 is an inspiring place
ldd - Yeah, yeah, it's not done just yet - I had planned to do a little more on it before calling it done - might even try highlighting the blue if I can mix up some suitable metallics  Different project - different paint style  I was aiming for more of a comic-book feel than the grimdark, hopefully I'll be a bit more focused on the minis for actual forces and will have neater black-lining for a start.
Yeah, mould line was very naughty, as were the improperly sanded lugs on his trousers and top - no focus at all when I was doing these - at least I had the sense to stick with civs for now
weety - I think it's safe to assume there'll be some satirical touches here and there  And I'm hoping it'll be fun too.
graven - Thank you, another possibility I considered was 'Fatties Unite' which I thought might be amusing as he's the only one I have at present
So, just returned from the first of three exams this week - might possibly have just scraped through, but I'm doubtful - had to stay pretty focused on all the UAT stuff at work for the last 6-7 months, and tbh I was struggling before then. It's been over 20 years since any formal education, and self-study was never my forte anyway. And I certainly can't get away with no studying and just turn up to the exams like I could with GCSE's
Having thought about it and discussed with my boss, I'm going to skip tomorrow's exam in lieu of further evision for Wednesday's. That way there's a very faint chance I might get somewhere with the third one, rather than wasting the rest of the day failing to learn enough for tomorrow and sitting in the exam room twiddling my thumbs for 3 hours, and then repeating the next day
So unlikely to see an update till later in the week, although I may well be floating around other peep's blogs depending on how fried my wee head gets
edit: And no love OR hate for the chaos guy with the floating corruption? Gets ignored in favour of some sloppy citizens?
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Post by: neil101
Hey Monkey,
good luck with the rest of the exams mate. at least your grammar will be fine.
Really enjoying these 2000ad dudes , so much potential with the concept , will we be seeing the ABC warriors , zenith or button man making an appearance . we will at least need a tharg style editorial to go with ;-)
the chaos dude puts me in mind of your cyborks , the crackle ball is great.
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Post by: Llamahead
Good luck with the study I've recently had to write my first essay since university. So I know how tough it is to get back in.
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Post by: monkeytroll
neil - Cheers dude - unfortunately they don't care about my grammar, just my ability to waffle on about political, legal, socio-cultural factors and how they impact purchasing, or what articles 12-15 of the Sales of Goods Act 1979 consist of - you know, good stuff like that
You'll certainly be seeing the ABC Warriors - I have 2 packs of those in the package, one lot for conversions  Rogue will also make an appearance, along with a Souther and a dirty Nort
And no idea when, but they have shown a green of Nemesis which is awesome - I'll definitely be picking up a copy of him when he's released - maybe time to start re-thinking that Inquisition idea I had using Torquemeda and the Terminators
I suspect all the JD stuff will be heading to a new thread soon, clear this space for more green-skin goodness. But not tonight
I'm now thinking that I might do a couple of similar types, with various styles of balls - swirly, sparky etc. On the other hand that might get a bit boring - I'll just keep the concepts in mind for now.
Llama - Cheers, but I think it'll take more than luck to get me through these
OK, my bad, I wasn't going to post, but a work colleague helpfully bought home the post that was accumulating on my desk - including a supply drop or two.
Various bits from ebay - I think they might be headed towards MC-1
Some Anvil goodies - headed to a variety of places
Gorilla gangster for the Ape Gang
And a Lawmaster - the first bit of kit from my KS pledge
Plus a few Dark Future books - Route 666 and Comeback tour from the original series, and a couple of newer ones.
OK, I've eaten, I've updated...I should probably try and get another few hours of revision in......
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Post by: dsteingass
I really dig the bike! Can't wait to see it monkified.
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Post by: Llamahead
Whos the bloke with the umbrella from?
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Post by: lone dirty dog
EM-4 Miniatures I believe.
Good luck with the exams
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Post by: neil101
I second the lawmaster being awesome !
I find it quite fitting that a gorilla in a suit is owned by a monkey on a boat.
btw the title of the thread made me lol
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Post by: monkeytroll
dstein - Probably won't be getting much monkification - I may do a bit to some of the lawmasters to represent some of the different atists versions, but that's about it for the majority. Obviously there'll be a few getting shunted to realities not containing MC-1, and no doubt they will get a bit of 'attention'
Most of the JD stuff will be staying as JD stuff though - too cool to not do so
Llama - No idea I'm afraid - came from ebay - my invoice says 'Scavengers-Gentleman,stunbrella,bowlerhat'.
ldd - Sounds plausible, know they do some post-apocalyptic stuff - the tab just has a 'G' on it. And cheers, hope it worked.
neil - Be more awesome once I have a pool of them
That made me chuckle
OK, so exams done for now - might have just scraped the first, skipped the second in order to get more revision time on the third.
Which didn't help much - can't believe I did get anywhere with that. So re-takes next May, which will be loads of fun as the syllabus changes at the end of the year - no idea how that's going to get dealt with.
Anyway...
OK, first things first, any DCM's checking in need to go check out graven's Secret Santa Style thread:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/488373.page
If you're a DCM and reading this thread, that's going to be of interest
Now that my head is unfrazzling slightly just going to take stock of where I am, and what's going on.
Apologies if this is boring for all, it's more a set of notes for myself I think.
Big new interest is JD, huge piles of stuff gradually heading my way for that- I'll get a new blog started to cover that, maybe later tonight.
Fair bit of Dreadball incoming too - some of that is earmaked for the cyborks, some may head to MC-1, some will lay around awaiting the call to whatever bizarre project needs it.
Dreamforge - Infantry coming in hopefully before Christmas, that'll probably sit on the backburner for a bit. Leviathan and APC to hit next year sometime - more than likely going to be looted by Upzag and da boyz.
Lots of gribbly things due next year from the Aien Assimilation Host too - a few infantry, a few for pure model purposes and then the rest for....? 'Nids, nurgly stuff, not sure yet, and probably won't be till after I've had it a while
And some other stuff that's pretty much just for the fun of the models.
And of more direct interest to this thread...
Cyborks:
Terrain - about 15 pieces in various stages of progress - most pip, a few still wip.
PIP - trukk, fighta, skorcha, buggies & hoverbuggy, looted wagon, bike, cyboar, couple of deffkoptas, couple of grotkoptas, 3-4 ardboyz, 6 nobz, 18 boyz, 3 tankbustas, 4 or 5 Orkus Mekanikus, 5 or so meks, 6-7 assorted types of grotz (tekkies, orderlies and grotz) and Dok GrimSnik.
Quite a few of whom have been PIP since the first couple of pages
WIP - fighta, junka, couple of buggies, at least one bike, 3 cyboars, grotkopta, 6-7 boyz, 3 nobz, 4-5 meks, 3-4 miscellaneous, and Upzag.
(Hard to get precise numbers without do a lot of delving - I'm also aware there's probably several more pieces hidden in boxes that I can't see with a quick scan - in fact, I know there's at least 8 more PIP in one of those boxes)
There's also the slorks, Trottaz Indapendant Traderz and Dik Dastardork in various states (we'll pass over Dik's compatriots for now as I doubt there'll be a chance to get back to them in'13)
Plus spotted long-forgotten pieces I was working on for Gits, WhaleMusic and Waaagh Dakka  Sorry guys, my bad - those are LONG overdue
Then there's all the stuff still desperate to get out of my head and into the realms of plastic.
And all the non-greenskin projects - couple of marine forces, couple of guard forces(at least) plus associated groups like Inquisitors and Rogue Traders,nids and various chaos forces including mutants, slaaneshi beastmen, the Hell Legion & assorted marines.
Plus zombies and a variety of one-off choas bits.
Hmm, not much to do then, good job I've got all those other goodies on the way.
At the moment weekend is free, so hopefully I'll get focused on something I've already mentioned We'll see where the old ADD takes us hey?
Speaking of which, KingCracker mentioned an idea similar to this as a spawn in reference to some banter
Which led me to this:
Who doesn't need a floating mass of tentacles?
Lost control of the poses a bit as without thinking, I put it by a heater to aid curing.
Whereas I should have put it in the fridge
All the tentacles drooped and stuck together as the heat softened the putty - luckily I noticed after a few minutes and was able to salvage a fair bit - but originally there were only two tentacles that came into contact with each other. Sigh.
I'll try and pay attention when I do the lower half.
OK, you can wake up now, I've finished waffling on...
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Post by: Dr H
Who doesn't need a floating mass of tentacles?
^ Oh yes, got to get me one of those. Next time I'm playing with putty...
How did you do the detail on the tentacles?
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Tentacle mass is top notch mt! Needs paint!
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Post by: monkeytroll
Dr H - that's courtesy of the tube tool from Masque Miniatures - I believe there may be more details inbetween pages 35 and 37  There's also an American company called GSI that does a tentacle maker - and I think that one has a nifty little feature that may make it a bit easier to use - I'll be ordering one shortly to find out.
Gits - Cheers! What doesn't in this blog? But first, it needs to finish curing and I need to add tentacles to the lower half of the body
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Post by: Dr H
I thought it might be one of those. I'm currently experimenting with a comb...
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Post by: Gitsplitta
There's a body??
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Post by: inmygravenimage
Shhh...! It'll hear you!
Keep the jd stuff on here eh mate? I get awful confused with these folk with multiple blogs*cough*gitsplitta*cough*
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Post by: Gitsplitta
*sigh* You think it's hard to keep up with them... try authoring them.
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Post by: monkeytroll
I always thought you just ran them through your hair. How many different ways can you do that
Gits - Well there's a blob of putty there so I could attach the tentacles to something  It will be just a ball of squirmy things when done though.
graven - Not sure if it's got ears? It can certainly sense you, not sure if it's technically hearing though.
OK, so I always felt if you had a lot of different style projects it was better to seperate them somewhat - I don't expect many peeps with no interest in orks regularly keep an eye on this one for instance - and there is a lot of JD stuff incoming - I went Council of Judge level on my pledge, which was something like 20 starter boxes, a whole bunch of special characters and a couple of pat-wagons, along with the bits I've picked up, plus there'll be the conversions and terrain - It'll get awful cramped in here
What's the general consensus out there folks? I kinda prefer the seperate blog idea myself, as I think that generates more interest in each project, but what do you lot think?
I know a lot of you like a mixture of stuff, but not everyone does, and if you're coming here for orky goodness and constantly seeing CSM and Judges are you going to let it drift out of your perception?
I also think it makes it easier to find stuff - and as I am experimenting with different styles for several of my projects it kind of keeps them seperate in my head, if that makes any sense (probably about as much as anything in here does  )
I know it seems like I'm pushing for discrete threads here, and to an extent I am, but I am interested to hear other's views on this point....
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Post by: Awesomesauce
Gitsplitta wrote:There's a body??
monkeytroll wrote:
Gits - Well there's a blob of putty there so I could attach the tentacles to something  It will be just a ball of squirmy things when done though.
I can only picture a pair of incredible hulk legs with this ball of tentacles for a top, running through terrain like it's nobodies business
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Post by: Briancj
*ahem*
I DO NOT NEED A FLOATING MASS OF TENTACLES. GOOD LORD I AM NOT GETTING ANY SLEEP TONIGHT, YOU MASSIVE JERK.
Augh.
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Post by: Arakasi
Will check that out momentarily... monkeytroll wrote:And of more direct interest to this thread... PIP - trukk, fighta, skorcha, buggies & hoverbuggy, looted wagon, bike, cyboar, couple of deffkoptas, couple of grotkoptas, 3-4 ardboyz, 6 nobz, 18 boyz, 3 tankbustas, 4 or 5 Orkus Mekanikus, 5 or so meks, 6-7 assorted types of grotz (tekkies, orderlies and grotz) and Dok GrimSnik. Quite a few of whom have been PIP since the first couple of pages  ...
Plus spotted long-forgotten pieces I was working on for Gits, WhaleMusic and Waaagh Dakka  Sorry guys, my bad - those are LONG overdue 
Ah, I know this feeling  At least I'm not alone... monkeytroll wrote:OK, so I always felt if you had a lot of different style projects it was better to seperate them somewhat - I don't expect many peeps with no interest in orks regularly keep an eye on this one for instance...
I know it seems like I'm pushing for discrete threads here, and to an extent I am, but I am interested to hear other's views on this point....
I have no issue with separate blogs for separate projects - in fact - I think I agree with you. I usually follow threads for a given topic and/or a given author, so worst case I end up following multiple blogs of a single person - a small price to pay IMHO
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Post by: weetyskemian44
I keep reading lawmaster as lawn-master, and picturing judge dred mowing the lawn on one of those mini tractors. "This grass was loitering! Immediate execution by beheading!!!"
If you are going to do separate threads please remind us all several times and post a link in big bold letters so we don't accidentally miss everything. Not too sharp these days.
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Post by: lone dirty dog
weetyskemian44 wrote:I keep reading lawmaster as lawn-master, and picturing judge dred mowing the lawn on one of those mini tractors. "This grass was loitering! Immediate execution by beheading!!!"
If you are going to do separate threads please remind us all several times and post a link in big bold letters so we don't accidentally miss everything. Not too sharp these days.
I am the lawn ……….
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Post by: dsteingass
LOL, that's a bicycle LDD LOL
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Post by: weetyskemian44
But he is standing on a lawn...
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Post by: dsteingass
..And he has a codpiece
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Post by: weetyskemian44
Quite a big codpiece!
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Post by: Anvildude
There's really no point to small codpieces, is there?
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Post by: monkeytroll
Awesome - That was a tempting idea for a pic, but I couldn't get the support out, so no go this time...
Brian - Sorry about that old bean, I thought it was rather cute myself. All it wants is a cuddle...
Arakasi - Good man.
And that means I'm not alone either, good
I see both sides, but when the projects are quite extended I prefer the split blogs. Having said that, there's a couple of chaosy bits below - but I think they're reaching a suitable mass to move back to their proper home after this...
weety - Well I believe I mentioned something a ways back about wanting to give Da Judj a companion on a bike - I think we have a potential winner right there
Don't worry, updates and new threads will always be mentioned here, this is most definitely the main blog
ldd - Good lord, I think he's been smoking the grass, rather than cutting it
dstein - But what a bicycle
weety - He is...
dstein - He does...
weety - Why thank you, but that's not a...Oh, that fella, sorry
Anvil -True dat.
Okey dokey, pig in a pokey..
There will be some greenskin goodness over the weekend - I don't know what yet, but I will ensure there is progress on something - or I start something new, or....
In the mean time I have a base for the chaos dude with the floaty ball pack....
So something like that, I'm feeling a rusty, grimy thing going on with the base - but that's probably no surprise
And warning, incoming tentacles:
Primed and ready for colour - not decided yet on whether to go down the wash route, or actual paint...or indeed a colour scheme.
And thinking it might go on a base with a few tentacles reaching up towards it from whatever chaotic area it's floating over....
Back later....
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Post by: KingCracker
Thats just fething creepy looking
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Post by: Briancj
It needs to go on a base made to look like an open mouth, with a giant tongue reaching up to lick it.
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Post by: Scarper
I would be so excited if you brought back your other threads - absolutely loved the mutants in the chaos one.
That tentacle mass is disturbing, Monkey - can almost see it writhing. Ace job! Hope there's some gloss in the paintscheme plan...
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Post by: weetyskemian44
Mutants!!! There is nothing finer in life than an army of mutants.
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Post by: monkeytroll
KC - Excellent
ldd - I can imagine he tried to build an iso-cube for you
Cheers, I do like multi-level bases.
No pink on this one, but there's a bit of purple and a bit of fleshy
Brian - Excellent idea - I enjoyed this one so much I plan to do some more, and the tongue is going to hit one of them  Need to work on my GS-fu to pull off a good mouth though...
Scarp - Well, there'll be mutants in Dredd too  I feel there's enough going on to warrant re-opening the lost and damned thread, probably tomorrow
Good to hear!  Plenty of gloss
weety - Unless perhaps it was an army of cyborgs  Or perhaps two armies of mutants.  Or an army of cyborg mutants.  Or two armies of cyborg mutants fightin' and stuff! Yeaaaaahhhh!!!
Nevertheless, a fine sentiment
So, snuck in a little detailing on the klegg
And re-attached his arm after he made a break for it whilst being transported for priming. Unfortunately jetpack was out of fuel.
And on to da Boyz:
Early PIP, so looks bloody horrible, but look, it's progress, and it's an ork
Going for denim dungarees, much lighter and faded than the base blue.
He had some red on when I started, but still, more progress.
And finished up detailing a couple of other loiterers who were hanging around da surjary.
And just noticed I didn't round off the lenses
Been in da surjary so long dat da Dok used his bitz on some ovah gits innit?
But he's better off for it. Originally planned as a shoota I hadn't liked the couple of options I tried for his gun hand, and then realised that just having one arm is no reason not to have a choppa and a slugga - the can go on the same arm  I'll admit the choppa in this case is perhaps a little small - but considering what else is going on with some of these guys I'm not that bothered.
Punk head from Kromlech, gun hand from Anvil, ammo from Zinge
Both have been primed, along with the big mek based on the AOBR warboss, he just needed some minor filling and detailing.
Tentiball has been finished, I'll get some shots in the light box tomorrow, and post 'em in the chaos thread, but here's a quick preview for the faithful...
Too blue in the pics, there's more purple in there which will hopefully show in the beauty shots..
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Post by: Rogue Wolves
I'm liking the duel pistol wielding ork a lot! And this tenticle beastie is great
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Post full-a-awesome!
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Post by: Ramos Asura
Ohhh Youve been super busy since I last popped in here.
Im really liking the turbine on the shoota boy. I many try to replicate that on my fightas (if I figure out where I packed em! >< )
The tenti-ball looks awesomely chaotic, and the base is almost exactly what I imagined when I saw the WIP earlier!
On a side note, hows the Zinge ammo in holding its shape? Do you need to heat it? How stable is the shape?
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Post by: Awesomesauce
Tentaball looks awesome. Very chaos-ey. And love da boy with the turbine haha. How did you do those wheels for him? The rims are very nicely detailed.
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Post by: Yggdrasil
Wow, floating spawn looks great !!
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Post by: lone dirty dog
HA AH AHA HA HA SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE  Orks are great although the lenses do need rounding of  The thruster arm is hilarious  what body is connected to the two gun wielding red ork
The bionic arm on dungers is great and the head looks techy as well, last but no way least the tentacle is awesome never thought of that much colour
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Post by: Dr H
Liking the poses and the krazy konversions.
And the tentiball looks good.
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Post by: inmygravenimage
Tentaball is amazeballs! You need to do more csm, my gnarly breeder of monsters!
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
i totally like the tentacle ball... the sculpt and the posing is awesome and creepy at the same time... where it goes a bit down hill tho is due to the painting... reminds me of a can of worms... and not in a good way... too bright too... sadly... but the flying base was again a good choice!
the rest of your most recent updates... wow... very good looking and way too much to comment on individually for me now
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