I go away for a week with work and look at how much discussion has happened in the world of Grim. Loving all those different workspaces. Would love to have one of my very own instead of inhabiting our dining table and having to put up with my wife nagging about paint everywhere....
Heh, yeah, I've got a decent set-up in this house (finally) if I can just get it all cleaned up and organized. I used to keep my computer desk in a closet, and then it's been in the livingroom of various places we've lived (bedroom is pointless as then how can I use it while wife is sleeping), finally in it's own office.
Hopefully there will be some more update action going on. I've figured out what kind of markers I'm gonna use for battle systems (sharpies, really light ones), and I've still got some brush on glue so I'll be moving forward with that as I go. I think I'll assemble all of the walls and then line them up and divide them in half for making my ships.
Gonna do a bit more of that tonight and then get to bed so I'm not too tired tomorrow. This weekend hopefully I can take pictures of well.. anything
How did you get the purplish markings on those green infinity aliens? I'm wanting to rip that look off for a big slug-thing I found on my painting desk.
The skin is a 3:1 mix of lust pink and demon skin (minitaire paints), which is painted on all of the skin. Then that's either blotched or striped or otherwise broken up, kind of like camo almost, by a 1:1 mix of pestilence flesh and snow white (still minitaire). Last is the little dots, in ecchymose (darkish purple).
Of course it's one of mine, so the whole thing is dipped in Tudor stain. A couple of washes of black/brown or even green would do the same job though.
Got most/all of the wall bits popped out for my stronghold set. I've still got 6 more sheets of walls from the clean/infested add-ons I got. Supergluing weak contact points before trying to use them is definitely superior, as long as you test-fit them before doing so. Gonna get all of my walls and such popped out and assembled and then array them to see how many I get for each ship.
Having played it, it really does feel like a totally different game to your standard 40k match. To sum it up, here's a few things it includes:
Unique missions/force setups
More brutal reaction fire rules balanced by more dangerous consequences for losing an assault
Rules for fighting in vacuums
Rules for the ship coming under fire, parts blowing up ect
Rules that disguise enemy units until you get los to them (think Infinity TO camo but on a squad basis)
Zone Mortalis huh, I've heard of it. I'm not going to have a 2x2' section of board though. I think Infinity may work alright, the ships would be big enough to have more dudes, but if we assume that the crew has gone to ground and it's only soldiers on the prowl...
Which edition of 40k does that link apply to? The last one or has it been updated (in which case I don't have the matching rule set ).
@Paradigm I meant that the amount of battle systems I have to make up my two ships would only be something like 2x2' total with a few areas of extra height, so I dunno if that's enough to play the ZM game upon. Would be packed pretty close for Infinity but tighter areas and lots of broken LoS may make up for it.
Well everything is going to be divided into rooms in sections of 4", so 4x4" cubes, or 4x8" rooms, or 8x12" sections, you get the idea.
Kind of like this but in 3d at 28mm scale:
With all of my walls split in half and two ships with different designs. For boarding actions I may have them side-by-side docked and maybe with a breach as well.
So with all of the compartments, hackable doors, tons and tons of crates and stuff jutting out from the walls... should make up for the close quarters. Shotguns would be king.
Looks like some kind of boardgame? Nah that's the default ship for that FTL: Faster than Light game.
Since they're what I said I'm doing next... primed 10 more Mars Attacks minis, total of 11 ready now. Gonna get cracking on those when the urge to paint arises.
Here you can see the results of my penning the stasis/clone/whatever chamber.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Yeah, I don't think I was going to order them either, the dead figures, but I'm glad I have a set. Should be fun to create atmosphere, especially in conjunction with BS.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Painting begins! I think I remember how I painted my martian grunt before. Can't be sure it was this troll hide before I get another one dipped though. Seems a bit lighter and more blue... but nothing else I have comes close and I know I didn't mix a color for the armor. We shall see...
Cheers for the pictures of the dead figures, have not seen them anywhere else. You are right about the possible use of the Enforcer as an alternate pose, he looks a bit narcissistic like he is kissing his bicep. The battle systems stuff looks good, but looks like a fair bit of work too.
I see the dead enforcer (aside from the obvious use) as potentially useful in a diorama or just any time you'd want an enforcer traversing a limited access alley, or up a ladder, or similar. Maybe trying to hug cover literally
The BS stuff just takes a bit more patience and a softer touch than I'm used to, is all. I've been punching things out and organizing them like a madman tonight, but I've still got multiple sheets to go.
I've included my latest musings about organizing the stuff into two ships in a spoiler below. Just my sketch-equivalent note-taking, like to keep notepad handy and make notes as I go. Works great for any mixed paint recipes, and I used to do it to figure out 40k armies, like a what to buy list and such. Feel free to skip it and await results though, not terribly insightful
Spoiler:
BS scifi terrain wall count: 19 assembled 20 more walls 11 more doors
So looks like 40 walls from the base set, nice and even cool...
14 total doors, kind of an odd number but oh well. Maybe this round number came from my add-on choices...
16 infested walls including 4 doors 8 clean walls including 2 doors
So a grand total of 64 wall tiles, and 20 of them as doors.
I've also got two hangar bay doors.
Two double doorways that go with the mixed room/ barraks sheets.
There are 9 8x8 floor sections, and 4 4x4 floor sections, interesting that this comes out to one more floor section, and beneficial too since that makes even flooring for both ships. Well by volume. One ship will have to take the 9th main section and the other will want all four of the 4x4's...
2 window walls
4x airlocks (walls)
2x plasma cells (walls)
One single solitary docking bay.
Contents of one bunker set....
So I said 64 wall tiles but now it looks ilke I've found 8 more from the windows, airlocks, and cells. Sooo... 72 total walls and wall-like objects. No.. wait. Two double doorways. 74 total walls. And then two hangar doorways.
74 total walls. 10 8x8" floor sections (including the smaller 4x4" sections). 2 hangar doorways. one docking bay one medicenter one elevator two barracks contents 4x room items 2x reactor with central thingabob 1x turbine
Pretty even here, but not 100% I'm also unsure of the exact amount of clips, fascias for going up to double height walls, and so forth.
37 walls per ship. Only enough medicenters, docking bays, elevators, and certain other things I'm forgetting for one ship each.
There are more infested than clean walls, but that doesn't necessitate an imbalance in size.
The gist of this and my thought process to this point is that I'm probably going to have to assemble the docking bay (which only one ship can have at all) first because it's large and part-intensive. I'll have to build this, and design the first ship around it. I may decide that the second ship gets two hangar doors since the other has a much better facility for that etc.
37 walls which are 4" each... nearly 12 feet of walls per ship? Holy moley... Every interior subdivision reduces the outer perimeter, as does height, of which some will be necessary... there simply won't be enough floor clips to handle all of the walls being flat, a certain number will necessarily be used for elevation.
Oooh bunker set came with 2 more double doorways, so 76 wall bits Total of 56 exterior bits in the bunker set, but may not be able to use every last piece pending design of the ships. If I intend to cover my ships with exterior bunker walls I only get 23x4" worth of outer perimeter. That's not so bad, I was kind of figuring that my ships were never going to exceed 1x2" which gives me upwards of a whole foot to play with for each.
I've got enough flooring for 320 square inches of interior... 8x8" per tile, 5 tiles per ship.
Going to have to recheck all of my math these ships are sounding bigger than I had anticipated.
Oh so ok 23x4" outer perimeter right? And I have 38 interior tiles by now... That means I'll have 15 raised wall tiles per ship. The tricky part is how do you handle raised tiles within the ship having an outside via the bunker? Because if you try to bunker the top, the amount of coverage drops and fast. Wait DERP!!!
Wow, kind of stupid here...
The 23x4 is the outer perimeter I can cover but... My earlier assumption included no interior divisions at all... It will probably be likely that I can afford at least several sections of the ship to be 2 bunker walls tall because I won't have as many tiles to cover...
Honestly this is more planning than I'm good at. I may just have to halve the stuff, build one ship the hard way, and then do the other
So I started to make a synopsis of the spoilered text but I ended up doubling it. I think it's going to boil down to halving my parts and building one ship the hard way with trial and error, then having a somewhat easier time with the second
I got one martian done today. I was going to have five done and start work on the soldiers but it was my cousin's birthday and I missed going to the last fairly local gathering, so we went to that. Gonna go dip that martian before turning in, I need to verify that his colors post-dip match up with the initial alien menace.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Confirming that the martian dip is a success. The armor is a touch lighter, but that was probably one too many layers, or perhaps a lighter application of the dip. Serviceable and effectively the same thing. Mass production is given the green-light. Hopefully US soldiers follow suit tomorrow.
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Yay martian finished and sealed.
I may try to figure out the US soldier scheme first, but those next 4 martians are as good as done when I get around to them.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Here's my current test/scheme for my US marines/army/whatever for Mars Attacks! I want them to blend in with my corporation troopers, kind of like a local branch or perhaps even grunts since they're using lower tech solid projectile weapons instead of directed energy weapons like the regular corp troops.
This is a re-work of the scheme, basically the same colors but with shortcuts taken. The corporation marines took comparatively *forever* to paint, this guy was less than an hour. He is still freshly dipped in the photo, and needs to be sealed.
What does everyone think about the quality of the white? This was kind of a test for other projects as well, does the dipped white look *good enough*, or does it need some work over the top? I've had decent luck with a couple of Infinity models and leaving their white alone for the dip, but that has tended to be curvier/armored parts, and not folds of cloth. Should I go back over the dipped surface with more white? Of course then I'd have to add darker recesses too. What do you think?
Automatically Appended Next Post: Well hell... I'm actually productive and update-friendly over a weekend and Dakka's silly auto-append policy crampacks it all into one post... Le sigh.
Got my 4 remaining prepped martians finished! Just need to be dipped and sealed, woot! I've got 4 army guys and phil left... then I dunno. I'll either clean and prep the Icestorm basic infantry, or better yet... I'll get out my samurai and ninjas for the diorama as time is running out for that!
Looks good. Those Marines and Soldiers blend pretty well. I've been thinking of picking up a squad for some local defence/cop NPCs in Infinity, could I trouble you for side by side shot with anything Infinity?
I think you can turn off the Auto-append in profile settings.
There you go Paradigm, I think everything matches up pretty well. I need to get some DZ rebs assembled and see how they match up with the corporation marines and Infinity models too. Lots of crossover potential.
Automatically Appended Next Post: That's alright, I'm used to it :(
Seems like I've seen other people post one right after the other, I know it resets after midnight or so.
Yeah, those so seem to all work. At the insanely cheap price I might just have to grab a set of MA Soldiers. I can see the Rebs humans working as Bakunin Moderators or something.
I was thinking they may make decent Ghulam according to the older ghulam sculpts, the new ones look a lot more like the hafza. I was thinking corp marines would be good stand-ins for the hafza though, so maybe the US soldiers (still don't remember if army or marines, maybe army?) would be the ghulam in that scenario.
Wonder how a strider stacks up to T.A.G.s, kind of bet he's bigger by a bit, since he's sized such that the arms fit *inside* the cockpit :p
Grim you picked up icestorm are the infinity minis in that bigger than the others? I heard that the new sculpts of old mins are noticeably taller and the rev healer is some kind of giant.
Very jealous of the Battle Systems terrain - wanted to pledge but didn't have the cash at the time as went all in on AvP (which we're still waiting for :( )
It looked like a really smart match with AVP, hopefully it hits retail when you can pick some up to complete the pair And being on the same side of the pond should help with retail shipping costs too!
Grim you picked up icestorm are the infinity minis in that bigger than the others? I heard that the new sculpts of old mins are noticeably taller and the rev healer is some kind of giant.
Forgive the butting in, but, not at all. The Mobile Brigada is big. The other Heavy Infantry units are big, but the rest fit into scale well enough. Nothing is out of place big. The new stuff may be larger than the minis they are replacing though.
Exterior including some preexisting terrain and the bunker walls add-on set:
That first gen will squeeze his way in eventually, but there may not be any survivors left!
The boys have flipped a v-console and have crowded in the barracks room with some artillery, but will it be enough?
Another V-console has been employed to bar the door but the thing is already out of it's setting, that hell hound is hell bent on getting in!
Wait until you see the whites of their... WHY AREN'T YOU SHOOTING ALREADY!
And some over-head shots:
Automatically Appended Next Post: Once you get past some of the minor annoyances it's really pretty fun to work with, and really neat to use for set-ups and likely fun in games.
I question the point of my L-shaped building though. With the same amount of wall usage you can increase the size of the interior by 33%, just need another floor tile. And then you get a more spacious interior for the puttage of more neat stuff.
We'll see where I go from here.
P.S. the martians are dipped and ready to be sealed, so pics tomorrow.
Its more of a pain to work with than I had figured, but its still pretty nice.
I like it for 'living' or temporary displays or gaming areas. I can do one set up and do some games or shoot a series of photos with a story or what have you, and then tear it down and build and entirely different layout.
Very nice setup there. Am I correct in thinking each square on the floor is an inch by an inch? Because that would mean using this stuff in Deadzone would be simple enough, 3x3 squares equals a cube.
@Paradigm, well they're UK based so I think it was 25mm, but yeah an inch You also don't have to use the floors if you don't want. For playability, you could probably just dump the walls onto a DZ mat, though the floor tiles help sell the interior nature of the buildings.
@Cam thanks I really need to organize the front page with a table with links to the best photo dumps. Everything here is also in the gallery so trawling that may be easier than digging through the posts in some ways.
Gonna go seal the Martians after breakfast is done. I got a bit more work on the soldiers yesterday but they're still in the early stages.
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I'll do some more scenic shots with better focus when there is time! Gonna do the rest of the marines I have ready (4) and Phil, then it's time for the diorama!
Yeah I would assume space constraints are the primary reason for it in the world at large. In terms of stretching cardboard, boxes are superior so we'll see!
I'll still do the human soldiers from mars attacks as these guys haven't been primed yet, but the diorama has to have my focus for now if it's going to get done.
A lot of stuff I've missed here since I last looked in this thread.
The Battle System, or whatever the cardstock terrain is called looks really nice. Are you able to actually disassemble it all again, or did it need to be assembled with glue?
I'm very curious to see how you will do your Oniwaban. Are you going to go witch stock colors on him, or do your own thing?
I see you got the corpses too. Are you going to base them, or leave them off the bases and just use them as set decorations?
Yeah you can take everything apart and reassemble the battle systems terrain, it's probably the strongest aspect of it. There's a bit more prep than I was expecting (almost every individual piece has at least one slot that needs to be very carefully trimmed down to the point that it will fit, but not too big, but just one slot not all of them), but once that's over you can just slide everything apart and it's a bit easier than popping out battlezone clips. Some of the pieces I've glued to reinforce where they connect to eachother, but none of the separate components need be permanently attached.
The corpses probably won't get bases, doesn't seem like they really need them for any of their potential purposes. Too bad it would be prohibitively expensive to buy enough dead figures for each fallen member of a strike team
I'm gonna try to do a sketch of my diorama and if it comes out i'll share it, but the gist is that the Oniwaban will be camped in a building behind a door that Mushashi is facing, with the sniper up on another building waiting to shoot him. The idea for the oniwaban is to have him in a dark room with just a little bit of OSL lighting, still working out the details of how and where. The other ninja is gonna hopefuly be painted like her TO camo is blending her into the background. Mushashi will get a normal paint job, but as good of one as I can muster, preferably blended by hand such that dip has no effect.
Wow, that battle systems stuff looks great. Looks like you've been busy lately, Grim.
I'm liking the way the Martians look. I've been thinking about picking up the game since its on Miniature Market for 50$. Your figures may have tipped the scales!
Wow fifty bucks already? That's a steal, not much over a dollar per mini and that's forgetting the terrain and neat rules
Automatically Appended Next Post: Well good news and bad news...
I managed to get my 3 diorama models primed.
My Sotar is now broken due to over tightening one of the bits in an attempt to make it more air-tight and foil the sputtering issue it was giving me while priming those models.
I bought it for 70something, I've seen them as low as 60somethin on amazon. Right now? They're almost 200 bucks.
I'm going to see if I can get a screw-out or what have you to extract the broken piece from the main body of the gun, but even then I'm not optimistic. Even if they sell just the largest nozzle housing alone (and they very most likely sell it in a kit), the gun supposedly MSRP's around 400 dollars and all of it's parts are exorbitantly priced because of this. I'll be out at least 30 bucks to replace it.
Of course if I don't do that, I'll have to be without a airbrush all winter. I could try to troubleshoot/repair my old china-iwata-supercheap-knockoff, but it would only be good enough to do buildings and undercoats. But since it gets difficult to rattlecan prime in the winter... might be a road I explore.
Yep lowest I can find it is for $27 free shipping and there's no picture. part number looks probably right but meh, never used the company before.
/rant
Guess I'll focus on what I have primed for now, though I'll have to sort something out if I wanna finish the diorama, dunno that I can get myself to paint buildings without my airbrush.
@Shas, lol yep, should be fun to paint
Automatically Appended Next Post: Well went straight to badger and followed links on their site and found a somewhat more reputable parts-haver. Still 27 dollars, haven't checked on shipping as I'm not willing to spend the money just yet. Will have to buckle down and do it sooner or later though.
I'm gonna paint her such that she looks like whatever is behind her. Not sure what that'll be yet, either a billboard or the wall of a building. To suggest her TO camo is active and she's about to take a surprise shot.
I managed to dig out my old airbrush and get it working. It's pretty blunt and imprecise, but it'll do for basecoats and maybe stencil work on larger pieces. I'm hoping to get by on this brush until the winter sales season hits and the SOTAR 20/20 hopefully goes on sale again like it did last year (or was it two years ago.. or maybe both?). I'd rather spend 60-90 on a new gun and use the old one to have all kinds of spare parts, rather than spending 30 bucks to replace one part now (and on the chance that wouldn't fix the gun too...).
I've got 4 mars attacks human soldiers about ready for dip, will try to dip tonight and seal them tomorrow. Pics when they're sealed. This has cleared the way to the Infinity minis for my diorama.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Soldiers dipped, ready to go, may take a picture but you only get so much mileage out of the glossy sheen before they get dusted.
Really gotta get to work on the display base portion of the samurai diorama, both ninjas are going to be painted according to the terrain so...
Grimdork, have you played the Earth Defense Force games before? Your humans are reminding me an aweful lot of those guys. They look like they should be striding through a ruined city, surrounded by dead bugs chanting "EDF!"
Deadzone. I got them from the survey for the second wave kickstarter shipment. I dunno why they wouldn't keep the molds around and sell them, but as of right now I don't think they're up on the Mantic website yet.
As always your progress is insane, how is it you can keep up such a pace? Between the demands of work, wife and Wasteland 2 I just can't seem to get any hobby time in at the moment.
The mars attacks stuff paints up really quickly. And the battle systems stuff goes up in no time. Honestly I wish I would get more done but FFT keeps being easier to do Sometimes I can paint and mind the child at the same time, sometimes I'm a bit of a climbing apparatus and feel like I shouldn't have any sharp things or easily lost when dropped items on hand
If I ever tried to paint something difficult that involved a lot of layering or blending, it'd take me forever. I'm all smoke and mirrors man, tricks and shortcuts
Cross-posted from the diorama blog, feel free to guide me along on this one
After some quick mock-ups I think I may have to go with something more like this.
The oniwaban needs to be left and mushashi needs to be right, it's the way they're sculpted, you're kind of looking at both of their backs if I flip them. Also, 3 buildings is almost too much, makes it hard to see everything.
Now what, though? How to paint the oniwaban on the ground. I could do something similar to the camo effect on my malignos?
Kind of grey-scale the 'hidden' portion maybe like it's cycling out of camo, with a bit of a blue tint and bright blue/white lines where the camo has already dropped. I can't really paint him like the environment because it'll be open behind him. I guess I could to imply a building behind him but that may not be obvious enough to sell it.
Also will need to mount the sniper at a downward angle or she'll look stupid. Still planning on painting her like a billboard behind her.
And some fun shots of a 4x4 table set up 'just because'
Phew, there we go. Just a bit of a skirmish between corporation forces and assaulting Shadow Knights and their temporary Forge Father Allies. Does this herald a triumphant return of the dark grey space marines, or was I just letting them out of their cage for a day? I really need to finish painting the partially finished terrain and get some more pieces built.
Seriously considering just plowing forward with my space marines, forgetting about tall-scale and chaos conversion possibilities, there's a chance this winter I could go make contact with that game group an hour south and play occasionally if I've got a force... not sure it would pan out though, I never stick to armies long enough to finish them.
I am really sorry I have no idea whats going on, but it looks amazing. JK. Does look great though, very atmospheric. Your terrain looks awesome, and the models look brilliant.
I need to get some more scatter terrain sorted out, and finish painting the buildings. I also need to get at least one 4-5'x1-2' board/sheet with a city background printed on it so the board shots aren't just floating in space (or worse yet, my garage ).
Gonna distract myself with some Mini Ninjas and then look into working on the diorama setting.
Is terrain density important in those games? I know we always struggle in Necromunda to get the right balance of density as terrain is hugely important to how the scenarios play out. Your board looks awesome even without scatter terrain.
Balance is important for deadzone, too little terrain and shooty armies really pull ahead, too much and they never get the chance to shoot at stuff rushing them. Infinity likes a lot.
I really need to make that immersive backer thing, should make photos way cooler, and I need a lot of work on the buildings, they're boring without adds and bits and bobs.
Got a few more pictures I"ll add but it sounds like the kid is chucking stuff in the o ther room so bbl =/
@Shas -- Yes, signs and door/room numbers, names of the places and so on. I could cram a lot more models in, only used about half of the corporation available but they didn't have enough opposition without just fighting 'all of my other models', the SK-FF alliance is tenuous at best without throwing in another faction
I'll crosspost the other thread here in a bit once the photos are there. Here's a question for you guys, which would you like to see tonight?
Drag out all of my Marines for inventory/display/pileofshame
or
Build the Mototronica Infinity operation Icestorm Paper terrain
or
Attempt to clean and at least partially build a deadzone strider
???
I'll have to start doing one of those soon if it's going to happen, perhaps priority will go to the first answer by six (about an hour)? or the only answer? Or I'll just pick at random More than one answer by six and I'll go with the majority, or roll off
I've been quiet too long, loving the minis, especially the aliens from infinity. Honestly I haven't even looked much into the infinity range and I never saw those before, very cool and excellent work on them. I'm also really blown away by the clear bases, I know I've commented about them a few times, but every time I see your models on them in action it just looks awesome. I was always put off by based models when they were on a display board of different styles, like a snowy base on a volcanic board , not a nuclear winter.
Where do you order the bases from, especially for infinity as I have operation: Icestorm and the N3 rulebook on order. I think the clear bases will be the route I take. Also what sizes are most common for infinity, I'm guessing 25mm, but do I need 30's, 40's, 50's and 60's as well? Sorry for the noob question. You have me jumping in both feet first on the Infinity game.
Diorama thread update with pictures of finalized layout:
Spoiler:
Here's more:
Gonna go with this, proceeding to glue everything into place. The building will get a texture and the ground will too, will probably add a fence post for the mesh fence, and I'll be creating new barrels for the dio since I"m giving it away.
This should be fun, I can put the mesh pattern on the TO camo effect, should look cool if I manage it
Will probably make the set's barrels taller so he won't have the option to just hop them
She's gonna need some bit of scenery to help achieve that angle.
@Theo, thanks for the kind words
You're in the 'States so I suggest Litko. I think it was $15 for 100 bases. Clear acrylic. My brain is getting soft and I can't remember if they're 1mm or 1.5 anymore (thick), but the thinner option that they offer.
Infinity uses mostly 25mm bases, and some extra large models are on 40s. Most tags and some of the bigger remotes just got switched to 55mm bases which Litko didn't regularly offer the last time I checked. However, they have some kind of base-maker page where you can custom order them by size and thickness so you can totally get 55mm bases that way, gonna have to order some for myself since my trio of nomad remotes got bumped up to them.
Automatically Appended Next Post: We shall have to try to play some time, I jumped in pretty blind myself and saturated my model count by blowing a lot of amazon store credit (would never spend money that wasn't 'free' on infinity on amazon, terrible prices) and icestorm. Humorously, the Shasvastii didn't even come about until after Gencon (me owning them, I mean), I've got a bunch of angry Nomads and some Haqqislam dudes sitting around fuming wishing they had paint too.
May be kind of late for pics of that if it is confirmed, there are a lot of bits to track down Of course then mr. Souza may have multiple larger piles, it's a lot for me ok
Automatically Appended Next Post: Alright it looks like Mr. Souza has claimed the price of directing my next action, space marine pile of shame incoming as possible.
Looks like I'm bit late, but I would like to see the O:I terrain built, if possible with some shots of how it goes together, as I haven't seen any like that yet.
I want to see what others consider a marine pile o shame, so I can laugh and bust out mine . All my metal marines have been boxed up for over a decade now, and would make most current players swoon just for shear numbers.
I started a litko order last night but was put off so badly by their shipping price that I deleted it before placing. Was ordering 100 of the 25mm and 10 of the 40mm came to about $20.00, shipping was another $7.00(ouch), and just didn't pull the trigger. Maybe after I stop at MM today I'll order it, especially if I don't buy anything there and just pick up an order I placed yesterday.
Yeah it helps to order a lot from them at once, it's kind of like the Warstore to me, I've been working through that same initial 200 base order for months though.
My marine pile o shame won't really be that impressive to others, but it was assembled from ebay and elsewhere in just over a year or two so it's considerable for it's brevity in accumulation and still makes me sad because the potential is there for a nice army but I'm just having trouble getting anywhere with it.
I'll do that and the terrain soonish, both are easier than painting on the diorama, didn't get a chance last night though.
Ok sorry was taking pictures and didn't want to post before they were ready.
@Carlos, those roofs are cool, I may have to do something like that sometime. I'm thinking of pretty simple/functional adobe/clay/mud structures, like the settlers/advance team got sent without enough habtainers to make their outpost and had to make due with reinforced natural materials. Probably a flat roof with something else slanted like an awning o... ooh yeah awning maybe? Or something.
Pics in post and commentary to follow, uploading and then typing:
Automatically Appended Next Post: Blurry photo of all of the minis, bits on other side of table.
Bikes and jump packs, only 4 jump packs for the whole army though wtf do you do with that?
Terminators, a few picked over guardsmen, two imperial tanks (only got them because of the marine project so they belong here), characters, baseless 10 man tac squad.
2 tactical squads, front squad is technically sternguard/veterans conversion. 1-2 more 10 man tactical squads and 10 stern/vets in bits/pieces containers.
25 terminators, 5 custom DA sprue/chaos bits, 5 aobr, 3x DV sets
Bad photo, this looks like he was gunning to be Belial.
More dreads than you can legitimately field (w/o 7th shenanigans or a motf)
3 complete pods, some extra bits, 8 total rhino hulls, a couple will need scratchbuilt fixes to stand in for a few missing parts/treads, the dwarfs also commandeered one rhino.
3 speeders, 1 storm,
scouts, 5 more from the storm, a few more metal bits possibly not shown
custom motf/techmarine+junky scratchbuilt TFC
Storm talon, valkyrie, the wings are somewhere.
Big container has 10 marines ready to build, there's a baggie of 10 robed plastic marines, most of those baggies have lots of guns and other what-nots, quite a few magnetized arms and guns floating around. There's a bag with 5-10 marines worth of space wolf conversion bits.
Lots of bits and bobs, accessories in the top right, lots of arms in the lower portions, many guns. Can make a devastator squad or two probably.
So I guess it's less of a marines pile o' shame and more of a 'check out my space marines collection' dump, but I thought I would lose too many parts if I just blobbed them in a big pile. I could be persuaded I guess, if you feel I have wronged you somehow
I could do a big DA army, or death wing/dualwing, or well both... Some of the dudes have textbook templar markings which makes them good as imperial fists or BTs or another offshoot... Plenty of vehicles to do heavy that, or enough infantry to go mostly without.
I just hate the scale of them. I want to tall-scale the entire lot, like my techpriest dude. It's not super involved but it's a lot of work to do for an entire army.
Automatically Appended Next Post: @Carlos, I'll do the Infinity backlog sometime, but I think it may be easier to do that if I clean and assemble all of them (since I've been painting them on their slottas and then grinding those off) as a couple of bits bins of white metal isn't very revealing.
Alright I went ahead and assembled my Infinity Operation Icestorm terrain pack, I think its called the Mototronica Scenery pack and you can preorder it now. I think miniature market wants maybe $11.19? Seriously considering another set! It was so deliciously easy to do, and me being a complete and total papercraft n00b consider the weight of those words I think most people will assemble it between 10-20 minutes, I may have taken half an hour because I had a tiny visitor on and off and was taking pictures, and I took extra time on the first building 'cause papercraft n00b.
All Everything! It's pretty terrifying to me being a n00b at paper terrain, that marine below feels the same way!
Preeeety easy, right?
Holy gak this is like playing an MMO for the firs time and being 1/4 the way to cap in the first five minutes!
The stages of the bending, my paper container version of the ape-apeman-man picture
Empty metal thingie that should weigh more than most models that have any right being perched atop a cargo container, old metal 40k dreadnought may be slightly heavier but this should still be fine
Looks really sharp and crisp. It's a good art style and if you let your eyes unfocus a bit you don't really notice the flatness.
And the roof even has some more 3D built-in, this is quite nice as most of my other terrain lacks a convenient railing/guard to give roof-goers cover.
As promised, the standard infinity boxed set box fits snugly inside each of the 4 buildings (2 of each type) and makes them way way more solid.
Next to some battle systems scifi modular terrain for a contrast in material/surface sheen.
More of the same.
Partially folded building.
This particular fold is the trickiest one for me, especially the first time, just carefully look at the instructions for a moment and it should be a snap though!
When you push the roof down you're liable to miss the tab, simply flip the building over until you can see the tab, pop it, and slide the other tab back down.
Like this!
Building ready for infinity box set cardboard box to help strengthen it.
Test fit, totally the right size, how neat
Most of my boxen got stuck here.
It's really easy to sort out though, just pull the side out a bit till you can see the above, and push the box down away from the roof-tab so it can settle into place, may have to do it for both sides.
Here's the whole thing! Pretty neat The mat has some ugly creases from being folded forever in the box, some heavy books might help here over time.
Totally battle-ready in minutes!
And what kind of GrimDork Hobby time would it be without random cross-system model incursions!
Crate-thing secure, Command, recommend we nuke the site from orbit, just to be safe...
Thanks for stopping by! Really need to get back to my diorama
I've seen the set from my brothers copy of Icestorm. Really nice stuff for carboard terrain. He glued the shipping containers to heavier guage carboard though, to give them a touch more weight. On the standard card they slide around to easily.
Also, I think of all the 40k vehicles, a Drop Pod looks the least out of place on an Infinity board.
For your diorama my suggestion would be to leave the TO camo off the oni since he's in the foreground and supposed to be dueling with the samurai. Maybe put the TO camo on the sniper kinda like she's revealing herself as shes firing. To me the mockup looks like a billboard behind her. If you can get her to camouflage with the sin behind her that'd be pretty awesome . Just my suggestion. Looking forward to it!
@Loki Yeah, if I use the cargo thingies much I'll probably add something to them. For taking dynamic photos, they'll probably be ok as is for now. Drop pod is a really slick design, it's chunky enough to match the other 40k stuff, but still believable in other settings.
@Cam whoops, and nobody's paying me for this service! If I dumb down/simplify the way I was doing the grey scheme, I could probably have enough done to play with in a reasonable time... but I'd have to want to play 40k. And for that I'd need a nearby opponent who is also in the place of mostly just wanting a fun game sometimes.
@Para, yeah I'm champing at the bit to paint my icestorm dudes, just got a lot in the queue vying for attention, especially with the diorama.
@Ckig, I've got some custom cases I showed a year or two ago lol, I can take another picture. A lot of them are just sitting out places, one reason I didn't mind piling them up was so I could work on condensing their storage.
You may be right about the ninja on the ground, maybe put some TO down by his feet with the trademark blue jagged lines separating those from the rest of him, which would be painted normally. He got caught and wanted the energy for offense. The sniper will be in front of a billboard and I'm hoping to duplicate it on her. Maybe a Logo for ''Space Pepsi'', maybe a couple of contrasting colors with another stripe between them, and then yeah she could have part of her head and gun phased out to take the shot.
@AOV yes it is, my secret eBay shame, I'm just glad I stopped when I did or it could be twice as big! A lot of that stuff was got for half price or better, the rhinos need some hatches made, but I think I got them for less than 20 bucks a piece from the warstore deal, one marine squad was only 10 bucks, got a lot of extra torsos cheap to spruce up a bunch of cheap aobr sets. I think the DV terminators and bikes were somewhere between 11-15 dollars per set. If I had been spending on stuff like that instead of deadzone, mars attacks, and so on... I'd have twice that pile easily! Frightening!
I could technically include my corp marines in with the GW stuff, since they originally got bought to be guardsmen
Hey btw, if any of you seasoned 40kers has any insight as to what I could do with those marines in terms of a playable army, feel free to spill it
So many pictures I can hardly keep up. The Icestorm stuff looks great, really easy way of adding cool looking terrain very quickly (it was quick wasn't it?)
In regards to the pile of shame, damn. I see probably three of my 2,000 Point armies sitting there. Any chance of a charity donation to the cause?
Yeah the icestorm stuff is probably 10-20 minutes to set up pending the person's experience with papercraft. Turbo easy and quite fast.
I think the last time I did points I came up with 3 1500 point armies and maybe some extra stuff, but I could have miscalculated and or not used enough overprice heroes I'm not sure what I'm gonna do with them, either gonna finish an army or try to hawk them to fuel the other systems. I wish I were in a place I could hand stuff out
Man. I have a feeling I could readily crank out a large number of those marines in pretty short order if I just give in and paint them.
But every time I compare them to enforcers I just get sad about them lol. Too short, tall-scaling would make them look awesome, but then they'll probably never get done.
What think you guys? Try to tall scale a 5-10 man rhino squad and see how it works or find a good replacement for the original grey color I'm bound to run out of, and just get them all done in a hurry?
Say, what do you guys think would happen if I used the same woodstain dipping method I always do on a model that's had some kind of weathering compound. I'm vaguely considering using some charcoal and or other pencil work (maybe oil pencils or something, colored pencils probably won't draw properly) would do if it got dipped. I guess I could always apply them after the dip an then top coat them too, though they'd be safer under the stain (if it didn't melt them).
Automatically Appended Next Post: So either I got better at airbrushing or the old brush is a lot better than I had been giving it credit for... It was a lot easier to use and do smaller spots with than I remember, by far.
Suffice it to say I've got 10 marines base-coated in a suitably similar grey to the old color (updated to a minitaire color) and one other thing for kicks.
I dunno, having a few heroic scaled guys isn't so bad. Are there a y metals GW figs in there? Paint a few of them up just for the occasional change of pace.
Well I just want them to look *more* heroic by being the right height, everything else is either ok or forgivable. Oh well, I just primed ten of them so I guess I'm going to ignore how it bothers me
Seems like a healthy way to deal with something amirite?
I'm sure when I get to painting my bones 2 order I'll have all kinds of tall and shorts, I just expect more out of speesh mahreens I guess.
I had a lot of jump packs and other assault marine-ish bits I got in a large ebay bits hoard, a really nice deal overall, but I traded them off for my decommissioned chaos land raider. I think I like the dark angles most of the non-nilla marine chapters, though space wolves call to me on occasion. Blood angels don't really do it for me for whatever reason.
I'm torn, I just added paint to those models but now I wanna make them taller. The old metal dark angels bodies would be hard to do, but I guess if I space out the torso a bit and some greestuff as an extended robe... Could end up giving them mantic plague-like supertorsos if i'm not careful though!
Wow, and I thought my painting backlog was massive.
Other than that, after getting Operation: Icestorm the other day, I do love the Moto.tronica terrain since it is easy to set up and not much to get it prepped.
Yeah and while I think packing it down and traveling with it will eventually wear it out, it would still be super easy to do and you could fit a full sized table and 1-2 full Infinity forces into a really compact carrying case for demos and playing games on short notice.
When I feel like spending some hobby money again I may get another set for just such a purpose. Even if it wears out it's pretty cheap to replace. A nearly full sized board (two packs) for what it costs to get a single building from most places. OFC... it's only two levels and would get bland eventually... but still.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Blurry desk photo is blurry... but they're just base coated anyway.
I figure I'll do these then break them off of their current bases and put them onto clear acrylics. If I can stand old metal dark angel marines on half-thick bases in terms of height, then I can handle anything else in my collection.
Interested to see where you go with the Marines. Are you going for the same dark grey scheme you used before, or something else?
On the subject of Marine scaling, I think part of the issue is that Guardsmen, at least GW ones, are much too big and chunky, hence why I only own 1 GW infantry model in my 3k+ army Using stuff like the old Warzone plastics, or even GW Eldar or Sisters, they actually scale about right, I think. I'm firmly in the 'SM are the right size, the rest are too big' camp, all things considered.
And if you like the Icestorm terrain, check out this stuff (you may have seen it before, it gets posted a lot down in the Infinity forums) :http://www.toposolitario.com/workshop/ikube.html
Works on the same 'no glue, just fold' principle, is free to download, easily stackable (both for gaming and storage) and actually has a whole load of designs, 5 each for 6 colours.
For now I intend to continue the Shadow Knights scheme I devised back when, yeah.
The mantic human soldiers are too tall as well. I get that marines are gw's model for 28mm scaling, but then things that aren't marines shouldn't have ever gotten past 25mm. They may be right for their setting but they size a little down for the rest of my collection. However, in the mixed multiverse, they don't have to be 8ft tall super humans, or even humans. So I'm gonna paint and clear acrylic base my shortest d00ds and see how I like them!
The ikube stuff is neat though I don't so much like papercraft for it's own sake as I was impressed by the quality of the icestorm stuff. However, if I go forward with getting another batch of Mototronica scenery, I may invest some time into the ikube thingies too so thanks for sharing
So excited for O:I , too bad mine is back ordered and waiting on Corvus Beli to get a shipment of dice . Il probably wind up with the N3 books before icestorm . The mototronica set looks cool, I'll pick a second one up once I get o:i. If you want dark angel shoulder pads I have enough of the ravenwing pads for your pile of shame......multiple times over .
goods join our bright white metal shiny future. I'm using text to speech this could be disastrous. So far so good I haven't gotten to play infinity yet, but it seems pretty awesome is.I seem to have a wordit is too cold to use my fingers this morning what the heck?
did you had a big collection of Dark Angels in the past?I'm currently using some but can place had I kind of like them although they break the scene of it black Tim McGraw Wow. Black Templar there we go.
GrimDork wrote: goods join our bright white metal shiny future. I'm using text to speech this could be disastrous. So far so good I haven't gotten to play infinity yet, but it seems pretty awesome is.I seem to have a wordit is too cold to use my fingers this morning what the heck?
did you had a big collection of Dark Angels in the past?I'm currently using some but can place had I kind of like them although they break the scene of it black Tim McGraw Wow. Black Templar there we go.
Wow, I think that's the most unintentionally hilarious post I've ever seen on here, you just won the award for most Nonsensical post of the year!
@Ruglud: Don't give in! Once you turn to the Infinity side, there's no going back! You'll forever looking down on other minis as 'heroic scale rubbish' and you'll find your wallet empties itself far faster than you thought was possible! You might as well set up a direct debit to your Infinity retailer of choice!
In all seriousness, though, do take a look. If you're a gamer you'll fall for the rules, if you're a painter then you're just in for a treat!
GrimDork wrote: goods join our bright white metal shiny future. I'm using text to speech this could be disastrous. So far so good I haven't gotten to play infinity yet, but it seems pretty awesome is.I seem to have a wordit is too cold to use my fingers this morning what the heck?
did you had a big collection of Dark Angels in the past?I'm currently using some but can place had I kind of like them although they break the scene of it black Tim McGraw Wow. Black Templar there we go.
My thoughts are that marines are too short for 7ft super soldiers. (My thoughts on the scale question is the the ##mm should be to the eyes for a average human sized figure)
At 28mm scale about 5mm is a foot. So marines need to be about 35mm tall IMHO (to be in scale), but at least a head taller than a nomal.
Thanks. Forgot how fun it was to fire both barrels so to speak. Wish I would eat something dry heaves are painful lol.
A not insignificant part of their deficiency is stance, they have super low wide stances like some karate styles. If you reposition their legs straighter you only need to add a couple of mm thick bits of card usually.
GrimDork wrote: Have a big DA collection in the past?
I've got two units running in BT shoulder pads which breaks the theme but they still look cool.
This is stomach flu no real headache or weakness beyond not eating much.
No DA army, but I was building my own space marine chapter (all 1000 plus support staff and vehicles). I wanted more than just a painted emblem or decal and saw the ravenwing pads were cheap. Everyone was buying the ravenwing boxes for the bikes and speakers not to mention the assault cannons, and dumping the pads. So I made some real money for a while parting out those boxes. Even bought 40-50 of the accessory sprue in one shot for $3.00 each ($120) and sold the parts I didn't want off the sprue for close to ($400), got to keep all the pads, and other stuff. Before I knew it I have over 1300 of the pads with the winged swords. The Theophony (my marine chapter) were ready to be unified, then GW got gay with the pricing and well a little more than half a chapter is in my pile of shame .
Just be glad it's you and not the little one who's sick, that's the worst.
Yeah hoping she doesn't get it, I can handle being sick I hate watching her or her mom with something.
Wow so you've got half a chapter but don't wanna continue since its all expensive? I could see that. I bought a few of those speeders myself. I've considered buying stuff and selling it by part but it always seems like too much risk or lack of return, or too much work.
I've taken some shortcuts/changed methods a bit. Highlights on the black are drybrushed instead of painstakingly lined in, they aren't as sharp, but they also take much less time and I think it still works.
I think the colors are really similar, which is cool since the only paint I used on this guy that was the same as the others was the GW metal.
He's really short. I can probably handle it.
I need to strictly impose a no-tripod, no-photos policy...
This is the bothersome thing about space marines, he'd be taller than the other two humans if he weren't in such a wide stance, but at a glance it's hard to notice it.
Camera doesn't show the blue lenses, probably implies I need to pick some different colors to make them stand out better at a distance.
Forgot how to paint light things from a black undercoat since I've been doing white so long... should have done layers of lightening browns up to the paper color instead of brute force multiple layers over the black. Next time. Script is messy, I rushed it. I'll do script and eyes and stuff on a per-batch basis in the future. Color of the wax is acceptable.
I think I'll be happy with this level of quality, it's not much, but it'll work for tabletop and I'll actually paint the models this way, the edge-highlighting of the black parts (especially the backpacks) was killing me before.
I'll probably go back and apply the chips/scratches on a per-unit basis. I may also wait to do them until I have several units collected as I'd rather have more models done than less with neat battle damage (at least in the case of marines). If I do a big batch of 20-40 models, I can grab 5 at a time from different units and apply the same pattern/technique to that group also, saving time, and not being obvious at all once they're split back into their main units.
Mini-progress on the diorama:
A couple of layers of the plaster cloth stuff over the wire mesh. The building has a crooked look, but I don't think I really mind. I need to plan and arrange for anything that's going to be set in, like the door and any windows or advertising boards, before I apply the outer layer of plaster stuff. I may also attach a railing of some kind to the roof as I want those in my eventual board. Slow going, I may have to deploy this gift late.
Yep! And I can even say I didn't spend a lot of time or effort to make him that way so I don't feel bad when I compare them to sombody's recent infinity exploits
He's not short he's just turning into one of the watchers in the dark .
Yeah when the cheap boxed army bundles go from $100 up to $125 each it really was the end of it. Plus not as many takers for the things I didn't need, and GW just killing everyone's interest in the game did it for me. Plus the silliness with black library switching to hardbacks and tpb formats and the stories of Horus heresy getting weaker
Haha, yeah I'm not really big on GW lately either, but for some reason I felt like painting the marines a bit. Seems like a drag to sell them and a lot of effort besides.
Looks good bud. I think basing is not helping with the hieght issue, If you rebase them all they will look fine. Marines are small really though.
GW silly prices are a big stopping point. Mind you, If you sell them for a reasonably cheap price you will still be in profit with the rate they have increased in price over the last couple years. I look occasionally at the GW site, think the last time was when orks got a revamp the other day, well I could not believe seeing nice big armies complete for sale, but the price is just rediculous. £1000 plus in one hit, who does that?
Anyways, nice looking model, and quick means you can get them done. Dio looking like a good start too. Nice textures going on, are they finsh textures or will be covered?
Yeah this quick paint up still hasn't convinced me that I wanna keep them... just so wishy washy on the subject. I kind of doubt I could get myself to spend another 70-100 bucks in the new rules so keeping the army is very much both a fallacy along the lines of keeping a terrible old car running cause its your terrible old car (keep investing into something bad to spare your former investment, due to its perceived value... the way you might stick to wow cause you have leveled dudes instead of a new game...) and a slippery slope that will tempt me down a dark road of occasional regrettable painting and eBay bits binges...
I should sell the hell right out of them.
You more experienced eBayers... should I do it down to the singular itty bitz, or should I divide them into some certain arrangements like 'DA army deal' and 'ridiculous marine bits hoard' and the like? I'll have more time than money this winter...
Automatically Appended Next Post: I'll put some plaster/whatever its called on the building and a sand/rock mix on the ground. Not too thick on the building, I kind of like how its is now but too many holes.
A tip for your eye lenses Grim- bit of ceramite white or equivalent in the lens with your fine detail brush, then apply guilliman blue glaze with a standard size brush. Should make it really pop. Then you can dab a bit of varnish in there to give it that glassy sheen.
^I was kind of thinking that myself, will help me to better determine if I'm making money with them or not, and may be a sweet spot for shipping, maybe.
I gotta get rid of them though, I swear Its like GW is an abusive significant other, I keep going back even though I know it's stupid
Oh well maybe if I sell all of 'her' stuff I won't have any memories left to help me be weak!
Automatically Appended Next Post: The smart money will be to wait around 'till eBay gives me another one of those 'x free auction postings' promotions again.
Automatically Appended Next Post: @AoV thanks, I've tried different things over the years, these I just did really quick kind of as an afterthought, usually save details like that to do a bunch of at a time. I'll keep that one in my back pocket though, as it sounds both easy and effective and there are lots of lenses over my various ranges.
I have done a bit of selling and a lot of buying on eBay and I always tend to target the stuff that has the least amount of useless stuff for my needs.
So I would recommend selling as a previous poster said in usable units of 10, special and heavy weapon if you have them. That way you offer a usable unit without a heap of stuff a buyer may not want.
In regards to "bits" I would break them up into different categories. As in a weapons bundle, a back pack bundle etc. etc. Then the buyer can target exactly what they want.
Ebay isn't likely to make you rich, but can get you a nice little bit of spending money.
Most of this stuff was salvaged from eBay anyway so it didn't cost a fortune. Making anything will let me turn around and reinvest into the hobby and with less of a guilty conscience since the money will have come from the hobby and room will have been made.
I could probably even one-up similar auctions by including a couple of heavy/special options per 10 man squad, got quite a few extra bits laying around..
I've taken some shortcuts/changed methods a bit. Highlights on the black are drybrushed instead of painstakingly lined in, they aren't as sharp, but they also take much less time and I think it still works.
I think the colors are really similar, which is cool since the only paint I used on this guy that was the same as the others was the GW metal.
He's really short. I can probably handle it.
Grimdork, have you considered using a color other than black to stand in for it? I've been using Vallejo's German Grey for my blacks. Slap some Nuln Oil over it and it works great!
Only some of them have robes. And the armor is typically grey, it's just the off color on the shoulder pads, elbow pads, gun casings... ok there *is* a lot of black but it's less than half of the model when it's a normal marine. The robed dudes are not the best example of the scheme, however, point made and he probably is too dark.
I think I'd do the robes up in a tanish color maybe. Carlos is right, there's not a lot of contrast there which makes the whole thing kind of blend together.
For the height issue, have you tried mixing in Terminator parts? Using Termie arms and legs with regular marine torsos and heads might solve the sizing issue.
That's one way to do it, you can add plasticard to the waist and legs too but it kind of doesn't work for the old metal ones.
I'm actually getting increasingly fond of the idea of packing them up into sets and selling them off. I got excited when I had them all out in neat little rows but after painting this dude I dunno I just don't really seem to care too much.
My gaming group and I have been buying up armies on Ebay lately. As a trend Space Marines seem to the ones that sell the cheapest in large lots.
I suspect paint has much to do with it. Space Marines tend to be that army everyone starts with and did their paint job while they were still learning.
Yeah and I'm not really in the mood to strip my minis before I try to sell them either...
If things look too bleak I'll keep them and let them gather dust, I'm just that spiteful
I think I'll keep most of the vehicles and dreads and stuff anyway, they'll make great terrain if nothing else, and certainly some of them can be repurposed for my remaining interests. I just need to get the bulk of my infantry and whatnot moved out or the urge to make an army out of them will remain.
Maybe even if eBay prospects are especially bleak I'll just dump them all into one big bits bin and occasionally draw parts out to make the 'coolest most badass tall-scaled space marine ever' every so often.
GrimDork wrote: Only some of them have robes. And the armor is typically grey, it's just the off color on the shoulder pads, elbow pads, gun casings... ok there *is* a lot of black but it's less than half of the model when it's a normal marine. The robed dudes are not the best example of the scheme, however, point made and he probably is too dark.
How about throwing some red in there for the inner lining of the robes? (The bits that show I mean)
Ah yes, Enforcers have the height we all feel the SM need to be at, but the SM still are wider and bulkier than Enforcers. Hence the way one may joke that SM are Sontarans at times.
Ultramarines!
Automatically Appended Next Post: They are even blue shaded
I think painting the eyes a brighter colour could bring in some nice contrast too. The dark blue on black can be hard to see. I kinda like the black colour scheme though
I like black too, though it may be that I need to do lighter robes, if I keep them going. I keep getting evil chaos urges.
@ToT You are welcome to try if you ever get bored Though as above, I may just chop them all up and make them evil chaos robot/zombie space marines But then I'd probably need flying hell turkeys to actually play, but that's ok cause I generally don't get to
@Barzam Camo robes may drive me nuts What about dark red if we're still considering them as space marines and not evil robot/zombie/mutant/chaos super-men/monsters. Not too dark, just not bright.
I've had Op:I since gencon, I'm just really slow at getting around to stuff =/
Still doing the samurai/ninja stuff, maybe I'll get some paint down this weekend. Still really need to finish the display board too.
Hate being this quiet, it's the lull before the winter storm of progress I tells ya! So far the only hobbying this week was me picking up another fancier pill-sorter thing. I'm thinking it's going to become some kind of space/future train, maybe I'll get a picture later.
I like the black robes too. But I agree that some element of contrast is needed. Maybe you could use some sharp edge highlights on the armor and leave the robes matt black?
Well the armor is grey, maybe I just took bad pictures
I guess I've got to figure out what to do with the robes eventually as I'm liable to pool all of my dark angels specific stuff together for it's own force and either sell the rest or devote it to chaos conversions
Automatically Appended Next Post: It hasn't been a bad weekend, but it's been a bad weekend for progress on my projects
Man you guys have latched onto this space marine thing and really run with it
I really just broke them out on a whim to show my large-scale plastic shame and then got nostalgic and painted one
Honestly though, if I do any tall-scaling it will probably be on the chaos conversions as I already have painted nilla marines and a lot of difficult-to-alter robed marines that wouldn't be going that way. The nillas would then be normal sized and the chaos would get evil extensions, only an evil space soldier would heighten...
If I were to do it on the 'nillas though I probably would go something close to VS's efforts, the extender in the waist seems prudent and I think you have to adjust the legs to get them 'just right'. I don't like the terminator legs approach as much. Also I think I would enjoy festooning the models with pouches and such which I think is also in-line with how he does his marines.
The chaos dudes would just get fun mutations to cover my tall-scaling work, which may be both easier and more fun at the same time.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Another pill sorter because reasons! I'm thinking it could be some kind of space/future train, or some kind of.. Idunno... now that I have it in hand I'm trying to come up with something. Suggestions?
While painting on my samurai diorama minis I spared 10-20 minutes to get Phil battle-ready, I think he's good to go for dip: Shoulda picked a different color for the glasses, he looks almost like he's got a bandit/superhero mask...
Here's mushashi and the oniwaban in progress:
I kind of picked the 'wrong' color to blend towards, and didn't do a great job at that. I should have picked a more neutral blue than the teal but I dunno it kind of works.
I'm thinking of doing dark red armor, something in the old scab red line of thinking, but maybe a little more brown red. Brick red maybe? I dunno we'll see. Shiny black is also an option, thoughts? Still planning on a pattern on the cloth in white, may or may not stick to the triangle/lines thing.
Ran into a snag on this dude. None of my inks or glazes are an appropriate red color to get the metallic red I wanted. What about doing the bright red with black in the recesses? Obviously it would need highlighted and stuff but just as a general idea? I'm thinking to keep the armor around the red as white, and the pants will probably be black. The sword will probably be black with white along the edge like a Bleach soul reaper sword.
Hmm. Yeah, that didn't turn out as I'd expected it to, either. Okay, an alternate of doing metallic colors that I'd used back when I tried customizing action figures, is to use Tamiya clear paints. They've got a lot of colors available, including a clear red. Basically, repaint your guy with your most highly reflective silver, then go over that with the clear red. you'll wind up with a very glossy, yet metallic red.
Pill box is a great idea! Looks like a train transporting prisoners in each little cell. Or it could be a bunch of escape pods on a spaceship or something.
Yeah I'm kind of wondering about a dropship for the pillbox too. Like flip it over and attach it to the underside of a ship? The doors open at kind of an odd angle but you could still have troops deploy from them...
I could brutalize my IG valkyrie to make it fit the pillbox instead of it's own cargo area, then maybe work some giant fan/engines to the ends of the wings (think starcraft2 air to ground ships... banshees maybe?) to suggest higher VTOL capability?
Train would totally work too.
Initial thoughts along the line of drop ship:
Ships for parts if necessary!
Onto the diorama colors...
D'oh, maybe I should use blood for the blood god for the arms. I didn't want them to look gory but if I can do a clean job of it, I've heard it likened to tamiya clear red before... Red too clashy on the samurai? Perhaps black will be the way to go. Gonna try the silver+BftBG thing here in a minute.
I think you need a new cockpit as that looks like super scifi with a model T glued to the front. I like the idea, but I think a more techy look is definitely needed. What I envision, at least for infinity, would be a clear dome cockpit where there are two pilot seats, one on top of the other with the top one actually being further forward. Top guy is the pilot and bottom guy is copilot/drop chief/weapons officer. But it's your baby so run it your way .
What store did you get those pill boxes from? Might have to snag some for a similar idea.
I found that one in a Ross Dress for Less. I tend to hang on to packaging but my wife tends to throw it away quickly, so I don't think I can get you the brand name unfortunately. If I see another one i'll let you know what to look for. It was maybe six bucks which in equivalent sized plastic terms isn't too bad at all for what it may one day become. I mean it's like two rhinos so equivalent hobby value may be over fifty bucks right so it was a steal, right?
I dunno about the cockpit, it probably does need to look more high-tech, just not sure my skills are up to the task. Would make it just that much cooler if it were totally scratchbuilt though.
Nice idea on the drop ship, hadn't thought of that. I can see it working like the Chittaurai ships in The Avengers, basically catapulting the guys out the sides on ropes to either latch onto a surface or drop to the ground.
Your money logic makes me wonder if you worked for Enron . "So this being six dollars but roughly the same size as a bar of gold means that our valuation of it on the books is $10,000. And since it looks similar to GW product we'll make a shell company under us named GWL(GW lite) that we will say is worth tem million dollars . That's how the Emperah did it....honestly"
I'm sure right now there's some cheap toys at Walmart and target that would have a good vibe for the drop ship front. I haven't gone through their $10 toy aisle lately.....might have to make a run today.
Yeah I may have to go too. Haven't bought Madame Toddlerington any little nicknacks in a bit so it can do double duty.
And hey, I gotta justify my hobby budget somehow right
Also..
Are we getting to be on closer to the same page now, Barzam?
I think I could come to like the arm as it is now. It won't be a shiny (or blood-looking) once it get's flat-coated, I shouldn't think. May go back in and touch up the black lines once it's nice and dry too so they stand out.
Lucky me he already had muscle-shaped robot-arms or I'd have been in for a struggle painting wise!
Bftbg is more opaque than the Tamiya clear paints, but the result you got looks about thr same. I have both bftbg and the Tamiya clear red at home. I'll see if I can try doing a couple test runs after work with both to see how similar the results are.
That does look pretty cool. I was wondering about a spherical under-cockpit thing with a gun mounted centrally, we could say it was held in place with magnets or some other scifi-tech... he could twist around whichever direction to clear the area around the deploying troops, and maybe have the drop controls while he was at it. Would still need one on the top/front too though.
I think with the red deciphered the Ninja should go pretty quick now. Still have to figure some things for Mushashi and need to do the billboard before I can paint the sniper.
Huh... looks like I need to watch the chronicles of riddick...
Damnit Monkeytroll I was just about settled on the drop ship but now that you mention underslung mag-lev train.... I could try to find a couple more pillboxes to make a proper train, I think a 3 car train with supporting 'rails running from one side to the next with a station somewhere on the board would make a great centerpiece for a 2x2' deadzone board/infinity board section. I'd still need a front and maybe some propulsion bits on the back end but damnit all that's starting to sound cool...
Like the whole train runs on magnets, obviously that's how they move it around but the doors are also hermetically sealed and locked in place with magnetism. As long as the rails are powered the doors are held down with super-magnets so you can't open it. It becomes a posh and secure mode of public transit as well as doubling as a secure transport system for small high-value cargo shipments and their security detail....
Yeah I'm kind of hoping that wasn't just some clearance item. I was gonna check this evening but they're probably about to close. Supposed to rain tomorrow, perhaps then.
If I can get more, the train idea is somewhat more appealing since it could lead to a board design, whereas the dropship would just be an element.
Okay, so here's a pic I took of Blood For The Blood God vs. Tamiya Clear Red. This is not that good of a pic as I was kind of rushing. BFTBG is on the right side, Clear Red on the left. BFTB goes on weird, as I'm sure you already know. It's very thin on the raised surfaces, but pools in the recesses, almost like it's providing its own wash or something. The clear red provides a much more even color, but it's pretty thick. I think though, that you may actually have made the right choice in using BFTBG since it does pool in the recesses which will add some definition to the Oniwaban's arms.
How do both of the paints go being painted over another color? If you laid down a white or black (or any color really) would they work well or do you really need to just be kept neutral?
I'll fill in with commentary and some of my favorite shots in this post as I get the chance... Madame Toddlerington is being a stinker so it may take a bit.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Giant Stompy Robot is giant, no joke - true story
I mean he can freaking bat low-flying aircraft out of the sky without reaching!
US soldiers shrunk by the GSR's shrink ray, these look like fun to have around
GIANT MUTANT ANT! I've got 3 'ants' and 2 'spiders'. I thought I had signed up for six but I guess this is the correct number. I'll go over my notes later to verify lol, I can be happy with 5 but if I ordered six I'll call it in.
Dead figures! These should be great for atmospheric scenes. I kind of wish there were two dead martians instead of two US troopers, but I got two sets so it's kind of whatever.
Blaine! Exuding badassery and generally not giving a crap.
Exquisite crashed saucer by antennocitis workshop, almost wish I had gotten another one, totally worth $15.
Bonus clear plastic Science Division using his "masters of science" ability to phase out. You could buy a set and I kind of wish that I had... but funds were running tight at that point.
Martian Dredd! I am the Law, prepare to be Judged!
Enough wrecked and stalled cars to choke a fair sized freeway
I'll probably do more later, but these were my highlights for now!
I wish I'd gotten those Antenociti crashed cars. At the time I just didn't have the extra cash for them though. They look really nice. I had no clue that the casualties would actually end up being plastic. I'd figured they'd be metal like with Deadzone. Had I known, I probably would've purchased some of them, too.
Ahh man - really wish I'd gone in for this one... Giant Stompy Robot, crashed saucer, wrecked cars - all awesome... My favourite though - Martian Dredd... Get him painted
I was kind of surprised that everything in my box was the correct material too Well the Mantic $5 car was resin instead of BGPlastic, but that's a good thing IMO.
I remember some people saying they were gonna use Martians as TAU and the GSR as riptides... I haven't seen a riptide in person but this dude just about has to be as tall. Having them in hand, I still say that the saucers are too small for people trying to use them as Necron flyers, but ehh, still happy to have them.
Gonna have 5 flying saucers after bones 2 shows up
Automatically Appended Next Post: @Ruglud I may prioritize Martian Dredd, he does look pretty awesome
That reminds me that I need to preview the intact building set, forgot it probably hasn't been seen yet. That will probably have to come after work, we'll see.
Just enough time to throw up the unit cards from the DZ humans and martian decks I think. May be in the gallery if not here!
Automatically Appended Next Post: So yeah 11 photos of the cards in the same gallery, here's a couple: (ps click and zoom into the images to actually read the text )
Falco is made of glass but he is ridiculously shooty!
A lot of the Heroes of Greenville get a pretty big drop in power when they enter the Deadzone, much less likely to be clubbing martians to death now, aren't we buddy?
Well... no I mean he still hits pretty well but he'll get deathrayed out of the gate
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Automatically Appended Next Post: I find these little dudes amusing to no end, the bug thing makes me giggle. The same poses as the bigger dudes makes them cute too. Pretty good detail for the size.. what maybe 10mm?
My thoughts? Did not back this, am kind of regretting it now. Will certainly be getting a GSR or two, as well as saucers. Will also have to try and pick up Blaine on ebay, it puts the Deadzone one to shame.
I also do not see what the complaints about the vac formed helmets have been, look more than adequate to me.
I agree on the shrunken soldiers too, brilliant bit of fun from Mantic there.
Gonna dump a photo of an intact building in a moment, though it won't look cool until there is paint IMO.
Automatically Appended Next Post: I interpreted these pieces are glass windows and doors, so a nice store front. Not sure if they'd look better painted up like glass or with some print-outs of the inside of a shopping center maybe?
Neat flipside of the tiles gives you something rough that isn't brick, great for the roof though you could technically use it for the walls too, perhaps stucco or some other material?
I love the little decorative connectors, hopefully they make a batch for deadzone next time they handle that.
Also happy the accessory set came with those fence sections, they're neat!
Automatically Appended Next Post: Also, sedition wars is 22 dollars on miniature market. That's just plain stupid cheap wtf. I guess I probably won't get it though, still have most of the first box in my bits bins awaiting purpose. Crazy deal though.
I actually have... not done that. I will have to try it and get back to you!
Automatically Appended Next Post: Very quickly clipping walls from both sets together with mars attacks connector thingies they seem to work just fine. I'll have to get back to you yet in terms of tolerances for thickness and if a mixed square building would properly meet up and so on. Just tacking a couple of panels/bits together so far seems very doable though and I assume the other thing would work.
The MA tiles may be a bit thicker, like fortifications thicker than normal wall tiles, but maybe not as pronounced. Seem fairly compatible I'll try some more builds later.
Automatically Appended Next Post: @Carlos yes! They come with the giant stompy robot and are caused by his shrink ray. If he gets someone in game with it they get replaced by the tiny soldier (or just a token) and are then worth victory points if he can collect them
Tiny guys.......or REALLY BIG BUGS! Paint them up and no one will really know
Finally figured out the Martian language. They got to earth after a long time in space stuck in those environmental suits after stopping at the Martian equivalent of Taco Bell or White Castles. I'd be saying Ack Ack Ack ack too .
GrimDork wrote: I actually have... not done that. I will have to try it and get back to you!
Automatically Appended Next Post: Very quickly clipping walls from both sets together with mars attacks connector thingies they seem to work just fine. I'll have to get back to you yet in terms of tolerances for thickness and if a mixed square building would properly meet up and so on. Just tacking a couple of panels/bits together so far seems very doable though and I assume the other thing would work.
The MA tiles may be a bit thicker, like fortifications thicker than normal wall tiles, but maybe not as pronounced. Seem fairly compatible I'll try some more builds later.
Automatically Appended Next Post: @Carlos yes! They come with the giant stompy robot and are caused by his shrink ray. If he gets someone in game with it they get replaced by the tiny soldier (or just a token) and are then worth victory points if he can collect them
That's pretty damn cool. What are they roughly 15mm?
Indeed! I'm very pleased with my Mars Attacks! goodies
I've gone ahead and assembled the trucks, I'll probably work out little magnets to swap out the light bars and machineguns, though I do kind of plan to theme the trucks up a bit regardless of keeping them modular. I want one to match my corporation/human troopers, one I'm going to do a bit more like my Dad's work truck (though it doesn't actually have a machine gun OR light bars ), and the other maybe as a tow truck for fun. I figure all could be commandeered by the military and or survivors in a pinch.
I really like these kits. Super duper easy to assemble, lots of pegs and slots and such so you can't line things up improperly. Getting the wheels on there can be a bit finicky but what can you do? I know some folks have complained that the wheels won't roll once assembled, but I figure models are more or less meant to be static once finished (sans articulated/magnetized bits, those are too fun to ignore!) and don't mind. I think these remind me a bit more of a Tamiya or other tank model kit than a GW kit, but they assemble quick and easy. They seem to be a good scale and I'm glad to have them.
Now just to figure out how to paint the bloody windows =/
I think the saucer is basically good to go out of the bag, just have to put the weapons in, which likely means magnet mounts. With options for 3 pilots I'll probably work out a way to hold the dome down with bluetack that's hopefully hidden.
Yeah, its not quite one of everything, I never get the shirts and stuff, but its most of it, and a few things with spares
Wow magnetizing with ball bearings...
I need to get some ball bearings STAT.
Hmm they used 3/16 for the shoulder but I think I use 3mm/1.5mm which is more like the 1/8 they use for the neck. It's a terminator though. Wonder... I bet 1/8 would be fine to match with 3mm and especially for enforcers who are smaller of shoulder than marines... Might have to put in an order!
Ooh I've also seen a hairspray rust method that doesn't use salt for the chipping, just water. Color me intrigued
My brain read that video title screen as "Magnet your mini balls".
I am impressed with the BSR/Truck and saucer but have seen some close up shots of the Mars Attacks minis that make me dubious as to the materials suitability for anything but board game miniatures.
As an aside how easy would it be to remove the windows on the truck and then replace them with some sort of perspex?
Well the front and two sides are all separate pieces so probably not terribly hard? There wouldn't be any seats or consoles or other interior features though.
What don't you like about the minis up close? A few of the human heroes have soft features but the martians, tiger corps and bounty hunters, and most of the rest of it is pretty solid. Up there with restic at the least if not as fine as resin or CB infinity quality metals.
Also.. had to order those bearings, gonna have to use them on the HP enforcers probably. And maybe space marines if I go that route.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Magnetized the big stompy robot and saucer, pilot's magnet was still drying:
Just standard flat/disk magnets, one in each shoulder and in the torso. He can turn side to side and move his shoulders all the way around. The elbows just have a bit of blue-tack in them to allow poseability for the various arm attachments.
Smaller magnet under the pilot's area, same for the saucer.
Saucer has two more on the underside for the gun options.
May not magnetize all saucers as there are only two options and the world-war book has a reduced points option to take one of each. Plus magnets are neat but meh, easier to lose pieces.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Got in a game of Mars Attacks! Copying the text from the other thread:
I had a buddy stop by today and we played a game of Mars Attacks! It was really fun. The pace was quicker than deadzone with fewer actions to choose from and less counters and things to track. Things were going pretty well until we drew a total of maybe 8 event cards between us over a couple of rounds... There were civilians running scared all over the table, flaming cattle trampling human soldiers, giant robot launched cars crushing poor unsuspecting martian grunts, more than one giant bug hunting for lunch...
After the dust cleared I was down to two grunts against five human soldiers, tied with 2 victory points to go. I activated a freeze ray support card to stun a human soldier and ordered one of my grunts to go club him like a baby seal, and snagged two VPs for the melee kill for a win.
All in all a very chaotic and comical game, definitely going to try to share this with as many people as possible and I can't wait to get through all of the extra scenarios in the upcoming supplements.
Sounds like a fun game. I must admit I kind of dismissed it as I'm not familliar with the comics/movies/whatever it's based on, but if it plays like a faster Deadzone I may have to look into the rules at least.
@Grim I think it was a picture of the Martian Dredd that put me off, but then again the red plastic does seem to either be less detailed than the biege or perhaps just does not photograph well.
Weird choice to have a coloured plastic flying stem on the saucer. Still looks great though. Do the saucer and BSR come already assembled?
I think the red photographs poorly. I haven't painted any of the red plastic martians yet, once I do i'll see about a side-by-side with the other colors.
I think the silver stem is because that's what color the rest of the martian plastic vehicles came in, probably cost more/too much to go with a clear one. My guess.
Saucer is done except for pilot, guns, antennae(which i consider highly optional) and it's not on the flying base obviously.
Robot comes as a torso, waist/hips, 2 legs, 2 shoulders, 4 weapon pieces. Legs, torso, possibly parts of the arms came in two pieces but have been assembled for you.
Since I haven't got anything else cool to share here until I get the diorama done, here's a potentially finished Oniwaban:
In situ.
What do you guys think? Solid enough to leave it there or should I change some stuff? The green parts were last minute additions as the model seems a tad bland and it just doesn't seem like infinity without some glowy little lights.
Should I dip it? I'm leaning towards 'no' since I don't need the extra protection.
PS the birthday is today so deadline FAILED. I was operating under false assumptions of the date I'll just have to bust it out and IOU today lol.
Looks good, the only thing I'm not sure about is the white, almost looks like you missed those bits, but I think once you et the base done so you can't tell it was primed white, that will go away. I think the glow may be a little strong, but that's largely preference.
Hmm yeah, well he is getting glued straight to the scenic base which will be some kind of tan/orange sand, so hopefully that will dispel the not-done-ness you are seeing.
The glows may be a little harsh. Especially since it's a day scene. Not to hard to tone them down though.
The glowing on his chest and forehead seem a little too bright, but otherwise I think he turned out really nice. I like the contrast between the white and the red. If I ever get an Oniwaban, I may have to steal this scheme since it looks really good. Much better than the usual green/black scheme people use.
Thanks I kind of want to get some JSA models for my own after doing this, I think that scheme may work for some of their units.
I may tone down the glows a bit, should be pretty simple at this point.
It's about time to get back to painting flowers on Mushashi's clothes. May put up an image later as I'm not sure what to do with the lightest parts of the robe... either change color from white or give them a black outline but that may be more than my brush control can handle.
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So... I'm trying here, my free hand abilities are pretty lame, it looks the best on the back right, though the front is where you'll see it from the front of the diorama. Seeing the picture I probably need to go back and hit some of the lines and dots again to make them more solid. It's far from perfect, but I may go with it for now.
Gotta do the armor next, and the face. I dunno why they had to have a mold line on the face... I'm gonna have to make it look like a scar or something.
I have or had the smallest micron they seem to make
0.20 mm line width. I'm not sure it would draw that small, the lines are almost as small as I can do with a brush.
Maybe I should have done black dots and then put white inside them.
Like the pants, not sure if it's a trick of the light or you purposefully doing it(can't read everything right now to see), but the lower part looks like it's slightly darker, like the fabric is wet from running through puddles .
It was me trying to be subtle and blend the clothes from really light blue at the arms down to dark blue at the hem, can't really tell at all with the sleeves and it only kind of works from the back, it's a lot less effective from the front which will probably be the primary viewing angle. Still glad I tried it, gonna keep working on stuff as I go.
I won't go back and fix it, I like it somewhat, and I'll just try to do better next time. Going back and correcting stuff is what leads to hang ups and gives me too much time to lose my resolve and end up accidentally shelving projects.
GrimDork wrote: I found that one in a Ross Dress for Less. I tend to hang on to packaging but my wife tends to throw it away quickly, so I don't think I can get you the brand name unfortunately. If I see another one i'll let you know what to look for. It was maybe six bucks which in equivalent sized plastic terms isn't too bad at all for what it may one day become. I mean it's like two rhinos so equivalent hobby value may be over fifty bucks right so it was a steal, right?
I dunno about the cockpit, it probably does need to look more high-tech, just not sure my skills are up to the task. Would make it just that much cooler if it were totally scratchbuilt though.
^Huh. I may have to see if they've got any 1/48 Hinds at hobby lobby, could totally see getting one at 40% off Could use the rest for my tank graveyard board (still planning on doing it eventually).
It's interesting, the Hind looks almost just like the Valkyrie except the angles are a bit smoother and there's glass that bubbles out instead of flat panes. I guess that's what it takes to help the space/future look though, huh?
So still chugging away on that diorama, mushashi is getting closer, oniwaban is sealed, the terrain is probably ready to be painted and I know what I'm planning to do for that. Just gotta get some productive time lined up.
Then I'm thinking.. *Giant Stompy Robot *n marauders where n=as many as I can stand before moving on *Helga and 3 Bakunin Nomads since they're already primed. *More Mars Attacks! *Maybe Icestorm gets started...
And all Infinity things are subject to being done singly and interspersed with simpler models from other lines for sanity and quality's sake
Plus I may just change my mind at any time
This winter, depending on what kind of time I have and or job I end up with... I still want to finish at least one of: 2x2' tank graveyard board, 2x2' desert outpost board; And then try to do all of: Mars Attacks main game box, strike team for all 8 deadzone factions (meaning all 6 DZ factions, and maybe painting a few extra mars attacks models to round out their teams), and of course before winter is over I'll have gotten Bones2 as well as my hard plastic deadzone stuff and even some of DBX probably.
We'll just see what of that I can do, but it's an outline right?
Well. I'm not gonna slave myself to the list. The list itself is really a kind of 'whatever the hell i want' so it'll be subject to change... I've just kind of put things in the priority of what I want to paint first and such
Those pants look great. I was wondering how it would turn out from looking at the artwork you posted. I think you've translated it to the mini quite well!
Archer wrote: Have you thought about using a very fine artline or similar pen to draw the outline of the flowers on?
Like these bad boys. I swear, they are a godsend for those small details.
They should help with the black outlining.
How do you get those to seal? I tried using them once on a dreadnought scroll (this guy) and then using varnish, but it just lifted the ink up, so I had to clean the scroll off, repaint, and then use a brush to write the script instead.
This winter, depending on what kind of time I have and or job I end up with... I still want to finish at least one of: 2x2' tank graveyard board, 2x2' desert outpost board;
I want to see your Tank graveyard start up. My own has lagged out completely at this stage. I haven't done any hobby stuff at all for that matter in about 5 weeks now, aside from finishing the heads on 4 figures. Inspire me!
The flowers on that guy look fine. They're supposed to be impressions of flowers rather than "realistic" flowers anyway, and they do give that impression (or maybe of stars as well) Plus Infinity figures are so fine anyway that in actual size it'll look a lot nicer than blown up to 500%.
For the pens... Just give them a good while to dry. I've not had that problem, I just use rattle-can spray sealers, Krylon makes a clear coat that I'm coming to swear by for it's lack of frosting up and suave <5 price tag.
I got a 2 dollar marker pen that said it was something like 0.05 mm or something but I'm preeeety sure it's not drawing lines 1/4 as thick as my old micron, probably pseudofaux advertising.
Thanks for the kind words about the flowers, I like them from a respectable distance, I just wish the ones on the front were on par with those on the back.
I'm currently torn between the tank graveyard and the desert base board. I'm not sure I have the technique down for the desert board's buildings yet though... and mauling/weathering tanks is just plain fun. Plus if I sabotage all of my space marine vehicles, well then there's much less drive to want to do anything with those so that may be a plus
Speaking of... things... I looked for a Hind at hobby lobby but all they had were apache's and other older helicopters that just didn't 'fit the bill. And some of the jets were high-tech but they weren't the right shape either. I did spot a 1/48th scale b-29 superfortress and 50 bucks hit with a 40% off coupon is a 30 dollar kit that promises to adequately cover a 2x2' board pretty much all by itself. Other than possibly Mars Attacks! though, I'm not sure what excuse I could use for deadzone or Infinity models fighting over such a thing. Does kind of make me want to look around and see if any of the good space/scifi shows put out any 1/48 or so space ships that I could destroy to make a board
I need to source some affordable 1x1' or 12"x12" boards (I'm not picky ) that are nice and uniform. I want to do either board in 1-foot square sections, so obviously 4 per board, so you can have a default set-up, and then readily rotate tiles to create variety. Plus it would allow a 5th tiles to be made for further variety if I got bored some time :p I think I'd be ok with something fairly thin, I was originally thinking of using insulation board of the 1" variety but if I found some relatively affordable and uniform bits of nice plywood or other board of the appropriate size, I'd probably use those instead to save me botching the cuts.
I second Para for the GSR, I am very interested to see where you take that one. But also Icestorm must be staring you in the face as well. But I totally get wanting to do other miniatures between single Infinity models, they just look so detailed and true 28-30mm in scale.
Decided to get out the airbrush today during my daughter's nap. I've been wanting to try some T-shirt designs to see if it would be feasible to make some personalized shirts for friends/family for the holidays. I had extra air and decided to get the big stompy robot and a saucer primed just because. I should have done the diorama scenery, but I've still got to add the back side (just a flat piece, probably stick the title and date etc back there).
I'm taking a snack break now... I may go back and hit the big stompy with some white and then work on something vaguely OSL-ish for a couple of the details, the heat ray, maybe the freeze ray, there's a big thing on the chest that's just asking to be glowy too.
I also think the master chief head is a proof of concept that I can find a picture (especially if it's already in stencil form ), get a paper stencil made, and get that onto a shirt. I just need to get letters sorted (should be easy, just have to research the trick for getting them nice and even) and I can make shirts for everyone
As to painting batches of Infinity.. yeah I just can't see myself doing it. I painted 3 shasvastii at the same time while I was busting those guys out, and that's probably my max. And I only did that because the skin had some mixing and several short steps that was conducive to it. Nomads may stick to solo. I like to have at least one extra model prepped when I'm painting though, so I've got something to do while things are drying on the primary piece. Mars attacks minis are kind of great for this, I tossed maybe 15-20 minutes at Phil while I was painting my ninja and now they're both done, it's a good synergy.
He will be distantly related to my weaponized big mech MVP. Black with some grey highlights. I'll take a photo later to see what you guys think about peeling some of the undercoat back for super easy chip weathering, I'm kind of torn. He's gonna get dinged up the second he lands, but it's fun to paint 'shiny new' things too.
I don't think I actually took any pictures, but I can if you'd like, when you need them. I half considered giant magnets and bearings for the waist and shoulders but meh, not really worth it IMO, I almost glued everything but the forearms but I'm kind of glad I did do the shoulders and waist.
I'm gonna be keeping all of my Mars Attacks! stuff simple and efficient, there's a lot of it to paint and the effort is really just meant to enhance the visual appeal of the board game, not win me any awards
Theophony wrote: Your money logic makes me wonder if you worked for Enron . "So this being six dollars but roughly the same size as a bar of gold means that our valuation of it on the books is $10,000. And since it looks similar to GW product we'll make a shell company under us named GWL(GW lite) that we will say is worth tem million dollars . That's how the Emperah did it....honestly"
I'm sure right now there's some cheap toys at Walmart and target that would have a good vibe for the drop ship front. I haven't gone through their $10 toy aisle lately.....might have to make a run today.
There are some amazing toy jets these days. The Imaginex (?) series has some for Wonder Woman and Batman that are very large for about $14 at Target. Or you can get a chibi chinook at the dollar store and cut away the parts you don't want.
@Bob, cool thanks, that's two more things to investigate
I was gonna do the lighting on the GSR so I could highlight it today and get it done pretty soon. Didn't get there but I doubt airbrushing those couple of parts would ruin my paint job, so I guess I may do that anyway. Still need to finish the terrain piece of my diorama and paint those guys too, but I need good quality painting time, highlighting the GSR should be pretty easy to do while watching the kiddo.
Going really simple for the main color of big stompy. So far I've put a drybrush of coal and badger fur down. Should I hit it one more time with a lighter grey? On the legs, torso is there just to show the unaltered undercoat.
Didn't get much else done this weekend, my wife and daughter are both fighting off some kind of colds so meh. Probably gonna strive to finish that T-shirt, and then either finish big stompy or back to the dio.
The game's martians are a bit different as they follow the comics/cards and the movie is it's own IP that took things a bit differently. Such as the green/red skeletonificating death rays.
Also also...
Between cold weather changing the rhythm of everyone's day, deciding neverwinter nights is still fun to play (tiny gnome leveling dragon disciple to eventually become half dragon and all awesome is very amusing ), and some other things... really slow moving over here.
Finally...
If you like mass battle fantasy wargames, don't miss out on Kings of War 2.0 on kickstarter now. Not advertising, just like to circulate cool stuff. I'll probably get the book. Maybe some demons since I don't have any of those from any other system and it's hard to argue with hard plastic kits.
GrimDork wrote: Now just to figure out how to paint the bloody windows =/
I'm going to keep it simple on mine and just paint them black to represent tinted/bulletproof glass.
The blue OSL style for glass doesn't look quite right to me, I'm planning on clipping off the glass bits on my ruins and then maybe make some clear broken glass from blister packs.
Terrain will take a bit of work to get right I think, the connector holes look fine with Deadzone, but they stand out a bit on the brick buildings. Might properly base and add rubble to the ruins and putty in the connector holes.
Really happy with my Mars Attacks too, it is great to just be able to take complete models straight out of the packaging and get started, opening up the box actually felt fun rather than the feeling of adding yet more to the mountain of assembled restic I already own.
Yeah mars attacks is great, from the ready-to-play main game box to the awesome add-ons. The intact buildings aren't bad but I think the ruins are a bit more successful. Good call on the glass for the trucks I may go with that.
If KoWKS runs like all their other kickstarters I expect it to follow the same recipe. Start with deals that are okay, but resistable. Three weeks later they've added enough free loot to make the KS super sweet.
TBH I'm in for $1 right now, but I give it 2 weeks before the Forces of the Abyss Army is over a 100 models and I'm upping my pledge to get the Rulebooks and Forces of the Abyss Mega Starter Army
That's probably where I will be. Pending funds snnd pledge manager duration etc. I already have a fair few skaven, some dwarfs and undead, and some smurfs, if had someone to play KoW with I could provide armies f both of us easy lol.
Automatically Appended Next Post: I think I'm in agreement with the assessment that black may work out better, implying tinted glass or some such. What they've done doesn't look bad so much but.. it doesn't look quite.. right? either. At least to me.
Probably black with maybe a white dot/line somewhere.
Not sure I haven't looked yet. I should get on that.
Automatically Appended Next Post: We'll call this approach 'classic black'.
Automatically Appended Next Post: This looks like a similar effort to what mantic has done but blended by hand i'd say, and I think I like it quite a bit more.
I will probably *attempt* the taxi version. The flames of war one is cool but it slaves the vehicles to a particular board type just like non-clear bases do. It looks cool, especially on the right board (blue sky, green grass/field/etc) but might grate a bit on a city fight board. Personal taste there.
I'll probably back down to the rulebook. Unless someone wants to get me an army for xmas
Automatically Appended Next Post: I think I'm in agreement with the assessment that black may work out better, implying tinted glass or some such. What they've done doesn't look bad so much but.. it doesn't look quite.. right? either. At least to me.
It looks like your 1980's video game character is supposed to shoot the windows first. I have to agree that black would look better. Maybe glossy black.
Glossy black is probably what will happen. The taxicab does look pretty nice though, it's a good compromise but a lot harder to do by the looks of it.
Stupid kings of war 2.0 kickstarter... now I'm making multibases for my fantasy armies just because =/
I did get the back put onto the diorama piece though, and the next step of the multibases is in common with what needs to happen to the dio.
I also got all of the stencils cut out for my nephew's shirt, but I determined that the 'hour in the dryer on hot' isn't gonna work to heatset my paint. At least not on the sample. Ironing seemed like a better idea anyway.
If I go bananas and start multibasing all of my fantasy armies with occasional touchups... should I post them here or make a third blog for fantasy stuff?
Automatically Appended Next Post: I think I'm in agreement with the assessment that black may work out better, implying tinted glass or some such. What they've done doesn't look bad so much but.. it doesn't look quite.. right? either. At least to me.
To me this looks like it needs little fish painted on the windows, looks more like an aquarium than anything else, so another vote for black.
Sounds like I should go with black from what everyone says, works for me
@ckig, nothing fancy just figured out how to get a new post to show up after one of my own posts. In case I were to come up with some kind of awesome update for you guys and then it just got appended to the end of this response and went missed for a day or two.
Short answer: Not really, torn between trying to sell and shelving them in case of future projects.
Long answer:
I have lots of ideas but I'm not sure when/if they will come to fruition. I'm planning on using most/all of my imperial vehicles to make a neat 2x2' deadzone board. I think rhinos would be really neat with the doors down (and the insides of the side panels cut out so you could run through them) where short models could run in by a ramp and out the other side without getting shot, now have 5-8 rhinos like that, a few other tanks possibly piled into large scrap heaps... A crane and such.
That's only if I don't actually make some kind of army out of the marines. I could technically leave the rhinos unattached to the board and make some kind of zombie/rusty/decaying marine force to go with the tanks I guess.
I suppose the main issue is that I don't have anyone local to play the game with and an hour drive to get to a gamestore significantly cuts into the amount of time I'd have to play, and it would be once in a blue moon. IF I could find people to play.
So I'm not keen on getting the new book for a bunch of if's and maybe's.
That leaves the marines mostly as a painting project, and I just dunno. They're so comparatively short...
But it would take forever to tall-scale them.
Could tall-scale when I chaos them up, but not sure that I'm overly fussed about having a chaos army either.
I might make an enforcer strike team out of tall-scaled marines, though I have a *bunch* of deadzone models that already fill that purpose.
If I found a place to play locally or at least a couple of times a month... I could end up busting out an army in a hurry for that purpose.
There are more ideas but yeah basically I can't decide what to do with them. If I steal their tanks for my tank graveyard, then I'm pretty unlikely to do anything else with them. Well sell them, to someone who already has tanks
Automatically Appended Next Post: Also trying to think of which 40k army the Martians most closely represent as I'd just about rather field those than my current choices of 40k armies, should the ability to play arise.
The guy that runs that monthly library game-day thing may have suggested that he had some 40k armies laying about. So it *is* possible I could find a game locally occasionally.
Could *almost* see the martians as eldar, big stompy wraithknights, flying saucer vypers, martians as guardians, marines as the one above that, science division as... something? Or even dark eldar with flying saucer venoms, big stompy... well nothing (sadface), martians for warriors, science division for wracks maybe?... bugs would fit for a beast master but wouldn't have anything to go with them.
Dunno.
40k for me is very much in limbo on a number of fronts
I like the idea of Martians as Eldar...as for the pile of shame maybe just hide it in a box somewhere! But really I think you could paint it up quickly, you just have a problem that many of us do...just too many miniatures and too many game systems.
Everyone tall scales their minis, break the trend and short scale them. Somewhere in the emperors design the genes for midgets had to crop up, be the leader in the trend .
@AoV I think ToT explains best why I might not just jump into painting them, so much to do
A humorous idea has popped up though... What if I took my marines and just kitted them out, geared them to their receding hair lines (teeth is far too mundane, we need higher!) and made a list out of that? Like I'm talking stupid amounts of upgrades primarily because it would look cool Choosing whichever chapter rules would let me best craft things such as: Dual-wielding power weapon honorguard/death company/whatever, dual-wield plasma pistols just because. I could tall scale them because the individual cost would be so high you couldn't take too many Maybe I could even go back to Ultras and do Fistius Calgar and take THREE units of honor guard for lewls Poses as dynamic as possible, using my choicest bits to maximum effect. Whatever is left over could then be done away with in one way or another.
Not quite Angry Marines levels of ridiculousness... but approaching it I'm cool with taking scouts for troops, I don't mind if they're shorter than the other marines.
Thoughts? Which marine codices or chapters could best represent this? Terminators are cool too but I'd like those that can be as loaded down as possible with gubbins.
@Theophany that's when I just bust out the forge fathers to count as space marines If they're going to be honest-to-goodness marines... they need to be imposing
Ok well I've heard Necrons, Tau, and Eldar, but what about supporting facts and thoughts?
The best one for that would be the Space Wolves, especially if you run the formation with the supplement that gives 1-6 Elites and buffs them to WS5. Wolf Guard Termies and PAWG can get insanely expensive... As in, 1500 points= under 20 models expensive!
Nah I think Carcharodons Astra would be best (plus y'know you've already started painting em grey..)
Tyberos, the Red Wake. Chapter Master of the Carcharodons Astra (and yes, this is a real model made by ForgeWorld lol) Can use these bad boys as chainfists, lightning claws or power fists IIRC
Haha, I don't think I wanna get any FW or extra supplements, I'm pretty sure generic ultras can get retardedly expensive. I do have some space wolf bits though so maybe an allied contingent
Of course 4/5th of my terminators already have DA markings...
Oh yeah AoV I did get herders for my martians, just not sure what else I could add in besides bugs for the clawed beasts (which you can only get one of per batch)
You also don't have to use the floors if you don't want. For playability, you could probably just dump the walls onto a DZ mat, though the floor tiles help sell the interior nature of the buildings.
not a nuclear winter.
, too bad mine is back ordered and waiting on Corvus Beli to get a shipment of dice 
. The mototronica set looks cool, I'll pick a second one up once I get o:i. If you want dark angel shoulder pads I have enough of the ravenwing pads for your pile of shame......multiple times over 
.......totally lost me with your post.....and I'm dyslexic so reading yoda comes natural 
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. That's how the Emperah did it....honestly"
