I picked up some of the trade paperbacks (right term I'm looking for?)
It was like right around when Atom Eve was hefty and her and Invincible moved into his mom's house (after she was taken off Earth by his father). I've ready pretty much everything from that point. I couldn't find anything earlier so I'm okay with not knowing what has happened up to that point. I'm liking where the story is at now, though I am missing the regular invincible we all know and love.
I can't wait till tomorrow when I go pick up my pull... Based on what I saw earlier in this thread, I should have Batman #13 waiting for me, as well as a few others...
Picked up Batman #13, Ultimate Comics Spiderman, Ultimate Comics Iron Man (idk if this is something lasting), Invincible Iron Man part 5 and 6 of the current story arc...
I missed out on Uncanny Avengers, but I added it to my pull for next month... Haven't gotten a chance to read them yet, been cleaning up my room..
You gotta be careful, it's not Ultimate Iron Man, its Ultimate Comics Iron Man, in the same vein of Ultimate Comics the Ultimates, Spider Man (Miles Morales), etc..
The first issue did not have similar pieces as the Ultimates Tony which is a little weird, since they're in the same universe. Also it has the a cover similar to an comic cover I've seen before.
I managed to read Batman #13 last night, and let me tell you. That issue got dark at several points. And the entire time, I was reading it in Mark Hamill's voice (ala good joker voice).
I know, I understand... the only reason why it's still important to make that distinction is that there is still an Ultimate Spider-man still in circulation, starting Peter Parker.
Saw the first episode of Arrow yesterday. You know, for a tv show about Oliver Queen that isn't the first 3 minutes of Justice League Unlimited is was pretty good. And he calls his sister Speedy.
The first Batman & Robin TPB was great. I never thought we would get such a great dynamic from Bruce and Damien after I had so much time with Dick as Batman.
Anyone else reading Haunt? The first 3 TPBs were nice, but the 4th had a new team and a radical shift in tone and seeting which I'm not sure I like.
I read the first 12 issues of Haunt. I couldn't get into it for some reason. Did you pick it up because of MacFarlane? Haven't seen you express much interest in Kirkman before. I suggest Invincible much more over Haunt. What's happened since #12?
My brother picked it up because of McFarlane. It was cool most of the time, though the violence level was a bit ridiculous.
McFarlane and Kirkman are now both off the book. This has happened since then:
Spoiler:
Daniel is hunted by some sort of radical church, armed with holy magic and high tech. Seems a bit manga-ish to me. And then there's this new guy who's some sort of 70s secret agent ghostbuster. No bad ideas really, but it doesn't mash very well with the established world of Haunt.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Punisher MAX: Frank was weird. Apart from the fact that Steve Dillon still can only draw one face he uses on every character, I really didn't like the story.
Spoiler:
I can live with the concept that Frank was a very violent guy before his family was killed, but in this comic we learn that he was completly distant and couldn't bring himself to love them. His home is compared to a prison. It's just such an extreme new take on his backstory.
Well, I finally broke down and started picking up IDW's TMNT classic collection. I never read them before so this is something of a long-in-coming treat. I'm really enjoying them so far. Although they have a very intimate tone, I find myself wanting more depth and characterization. I can really see how this was fertile ground for a franchise that is still going strong.
There's a bit of a drag in the first half of the 2nd volume, but I really enjoyed the old stuff. The action is great and I love that every isse seems to have at least 3 splash pages.
So this past weekend, we ended up at one of the relatively local shops, I got to thinking that I wanted to get some Joker comics, but being unsure of which series bring out the darkest, most twisted Joker, I ended up getting another comic.
I think it was a pretty sweet pickup, I got the Metal Gear Solid Omnibus.
For those who collect them, what are some of the darkest, most twisted and sick Joker series that I should look at?
A lot of critics seem to agree with that sentiment. I've often wondered what the fuss is about. I never got into Vertigo titles, not even Sandman. But I feel like I'm missing something despite my lack of interest.
Vertigo and Image is almost all I read now. Never really liked DC and Marvel took a dump in my mind. And I also am not speaking from current issues. Im still playing catch up from being poor in college the last couple years. Finished a re read of Fables last month. Vertigo again but I love those books.
Manchu wrote: A lot of critics seem to agree with that sentiment. I've often wondered what the fuss is about. I never got into Vertigo titles, not even Sandman. But I feel like I'm missing something despite my lack of interest.
Story over continuity and capes, pretty much. If you want a monthly
sock em' up, Marvel/DC are just fine, but Preacher is what got me started
reading Garth Ennis, and Transmetropolitan got me reading Warren
Ellis.
The first Sandman storyline tries to exist in a world of capes. It gets much better
after that.
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DutchKillsRambo wrote: I highly recommend it. Its weird and horrifying and vile and those are all reasons I love it.
Haha, man, I just remember the heart and the betrayal, but now that you mention
the vileness it all comes back. Thanks, now I got images in my head.
Considering I havent checked out Marvel in over a year is there anything good that Ive missed? I was never a big flagship line fan besides X men, which I read New X-men up to about 150 and I love the original run of Exiles. One of the best Marvel series in recent time in my opinion.
KamikazeCanuck wrote: That's because back in the day it was made up of lame-wads like Ant-Man and Wasp.
New Avengers is all the A-Listers like Spider-Man and Wolverine now.
Where's that "Not sure if serious" pic again...?
I cant stand having spider-man and wolverine on the avengers!
And the whole Uncanny Avengers thing?
Let's get the two most over exposed groups and over overexpose them!
Well I don't know what's up with Uncanny Avengers because I haven't even finished AvX yet and the aforementioned rock accommodations but yes I like the way the Avengers are now compared to before. Yes those two guys are over exposed by I like reading about their adventures on a team like the Avengers. The Avengers brand has completely replaced X-Men as their top selling titles so I think most people agree with my sentiment. I'm pretty sure you're just being contradictory again anyway Alpharius.
Im with you Alpharius. I love both Snikt! and Spidey. But Ive read WAY too much of them. I cant remember that last time I was excited for a Wolverine comic since the original run of Origins. I like seeing some lesser known but still cool characters, psylocke, havok, etc. Thats why I loved exiles so much. So much opportunity in that book.
Avengers has those folks too but I'll always be a bigger fan of Spider-Man than Mockingbird. On the hand I've become a fan of characters I'd never really read before like Luke Cage, Ms. Marvel and, I never thought I'd see the day, Hawkeye.
It's starting heavy, and looks like it'll continue.
Freakin' A...
Spoiler:
It's DEADSHOT!
Automatically Appended Next Post: Oh hell yes.
He had his little wrist guns.
Can someone answer me something, as I'm blanking...but did he tattoo the name of his victims on his body or are they giving him a bit of Zsaaz into this interpretation of the character?
Automatically Appended Next Post: Annnnnnnnnnnnnnd episode 3 wraps with a pretty damn good bit.
Preview for next week has a mention of someone "catching the 3:15 train to Bludhaven", which made me do a bit of a fanboy cheer.
Picked up the first issue of Uncanny Avengers... Pretty good start to the series, I'm not quite sold on Avengers and X-Men cavorting, but we'll see..
Also picked up Locke and Key: Clockworks, the 5th collection of the series... My parents met Joe Hill (Stephen King's son) at a book signing or high school idk... I was at college, and bought the first three collections.. I've picked up 4 and now 5 since then, it's a good series... will collect till the end lol.
Well that is definitely on my to watch list now then. Especially after the let down that was American Horror Story.
But still I've got an extra 5 burning a hole in monthly pocket. What can you guys recommend me? And Im looking for superhero stuff. Historically I go marvel for that but Ive been disappointed in the past few years. And I already read Spawn so.
Is it to much to ask for 5 issues I should try and go from there?
After a few dissapointing issues, Batman reached the Court of Owls plotline I heard so much about. And so far, it's pretty awesome. I just love it when Damien takes a dump on the other Robins.
Edit: My mistake. The German Batman series started with Detective Comics, nut now switched to Batman.
Anung Un Rama wrote: After a few dissapointing issues, Batman reached the Court of Owls plotline I heard so much about. And so far, it's pretty awesome. I just love it when Damien takes a dump on the other Robins.
You're talking just plain Batman right (Not Batman Inc, Batman & Robin, Detective Comics Batman, etc..)? DC New #52? Because the Court of Owls was the first 11 issues of that series. I hopped on board with issue 12, and I'm waiting for issues 7, 8, 9, 10, and 11 to be released as a trade paperback or hard cover collection like issues 1 through 6 were...
This last comment brings up an interesting question for me. What medium of comic book do you guys prefer? I mean of course, hardback, trade paper, omnibus, and standard serial release.
I agree that Carnage is pure 90s. In fact, Carnage is probably "distilled 90s." But I love the character. He's so fething creepy. He's scarier than Venom because he has absolutely zero anti-hero potential. That said, I'm still waiting for an event, miniseries, etc., that can serve as an entry point into the spider-books.
You may be given that opportunity soon with the impending release of SUPERIOR SPIDER-MAN - or somesuch?
Basically, there's going to be a big 'game changer' (yeah, another one of those) with ASM #700, which will be so awesome that it will necessitate the rebooting of the franchise back to another #1 issue.
And SPIDER-MAN might not actually be 'Peter Parker' at this point.
Also, they should just space Carnage already!
Or it may still be him, only with a radically changes world view?
I'll probably pick up the first few different Marvel Now issues to get a feel for the line as a whole, but in the end I'll probably just stick with Iron Man and Uncanny Avengers... We'll see..
As to the question of preferred comic way to read comics, for me... it all depends on when I get into it, what's available, etc...
There are 4 series that I read where I came in at odd points.
Batman (came in at #12). To get caught up, I bought the hard back collection of the Court of Owls story arc. This was the first 6 comics, instead of finding 7 through 11, I'm waiting until the next collection comes out. But #s 12, 0, and 13 (the three most recent releases) are all in your standard comic book form, and will continue until I decide to stop.
Ultimate Comics Spider Man (came in at like #11 or 12). I bought the first three in a hard back collection, managed to buy 4, 7, 8, 9, 10 in the store, and 5&6 through ebay... Since then, I've bought everything else in serial release.
Invincible started off in the middle of the series with a trade paperback, and from there I bought everything I could from the end of that paperback to current, and then I proceeded to get standard serial release.
Locke & Key will only ever be collected in a hardback, because that's how the series came to me, and I'm a bit of a stickler, also I feel that L&K lends itself more towards reading like 6 issues at once rather than reading the serial release. Though this does remind me, if someone has a Locke & Key 2 or 3 in hard cover, I'm looking for one of those in hardcover. I have it in trade paperback, but would like my collection to be as uniform as possible lol...
Alfndrate wrote:You're talking just plain Batman right (Not Batman Inc, Batman & Robin, Detective Comics Batman, etc..)? DC New #52? Because the Court of Owls was the first 11 issues of that series. I hopped on board with issue 12, and I'm waiting for issues 7, 8, 9, 10, and 11 to be released as a trade paperback or hard cover collection like issues 1 through 6 were...
Yes. It's quite confusing. DC and Marvel are both published by the German publisher Panini. They usually put two American issues in one book, sometimes combining two stories. In the German edition of Superman we get Action Comics and Supergirl, while Justice League is paired with Teen Titans. Wonder Woman, Catwoman, Batgirl, Batwoman, Aquamanand others are released in TPBs right from the start. Batman & Robin is also published as a trade. Then there are two monthly Batman books. Batman: The Dark Knight contains one issue of TDK and Nightwing (which I found to be surprisingly boring so far) while the one only called Batman started out with Detective Comics for the first 4 books but now switched to the American Batman issues, starting with the Court of the Owls. Which is awesome, so far.
Ensis Ferrae wrote:This last comment brings up an interesting question for me. What medium of comic book do you guys prefer? I mean of course, hardback, trade paper, omnibus, and standard serial release.
Definetly trades. It's much for fun to read then single issues and hardcovers are usually too pricy. And as I said above, there's the problem with two stories coming in one standard release, one of which you might not be interested in. My brother and I are now quitting Superman, because we're not interested in Supergirl.
Alpharius wrote:Now we're back in the Microverse with, of all things, SCARLET SPIDER and VENOM, and CARNAGE is along for the ride too.
I like the new Venom, happy that Kaine is back and look forward to the crossover.
Alpharius wrote:Also, they should just space Carnage already!
I think they did that. Isn't that what he's coming back from right now?
Automatically Appended Next Post: I'm curious about Superior Spider-Man. After the abyssmal BND stories Slott redeemed himself in my eyes with Spider-Island. Worried about the rumours that it's no longer Peter under the mask. Considering what Marvel is trying to do with the relaunch, it doesn't sound like a very good idea. Haven't heard of Stegman until now either. My favourite Spidey artists are Ramos and Romita Jr.
So people are saying Avengers is worth checking out? Is New X-Men still around and/or good still?
I like it. New Avengers is Marvel's "main title" for lack of a better term. It's where everything happens but you could argue that's a bad thing too because of all the mega events. I don't think New X-Men is around anymore...
Manchu wrote: I agree that Carnage is pure 90s. In fact, Carnage is probably "distilled 90s." But I love the character. He's so fething creepy. He's scarier than Venom because he has absolutely zero anti-hero potential. That said, I'm still waiting for an event, miniseries, etc., that can serve as an entry point into the spider-books.
I'm a proud owner of the 3-part original appearence of Carnage. (I think it's ASM #360-363). That's one of my favorite Spidey stories. It's also a complete story because Carnage dies in the end. Obviously he came back somehow and now we're getting diminishing returns with him.
You didn't think his tenure at the FF was a good jumping on point?
Seems a odd call tbh, although I never really got into the 2099 stuff.
I am still enjoying my (two years behind?) UK based Spidey catch up comic. We're almost at the end of the Spider Island story arc, and I am tempted to pic up Scarlett Spider now I know its Kaine, I like him as a character.
Okay, so I have a theory regarding Batman #13 and the "Death of the Family" storyline, specifically about the Joker. I don't go on comic forums much, so this is all mine. If I'm right, the kudos can come right here. If I'm wildly wrong, the tomatoes get thrown right here.
Spoiler:
Observations:
1) We never see the Joker's face. We expect to see some kind of scarred monstrosity, but his face is hidden in every panel.
2) The first person the Joker goes after is Jim Gordon, or at least the people around Jim. He also seems to know some personal info (habit of hiding cigs hidden under the bed) that even the Joker shouldn't know about.
3) Both Batman and Harley indicate there's something different about the Joker, both with his actions and personality.
Thoughts:
1) Snyder may be saving a scarry face for a big reveal. But what if the Joker isn't a scarry mess at all but something different? Could he have already had surgery to look like someone else? Or is he not scarred at all?
2) Things seem to point to someone close to Gordon...closer than the Joker.
3) This could be another Joker reinvention attributed to his "supersanity" as Grant Morrison theorized. But what if the difference is because he's someone else?
Crazy theory:
This isn't the Joker at all but another person who is either trying to frame the Joker or has developed multiple personality disorder, one of which is "the Joker."
Wild guess:
It's James Gordon, Jr. JGJ is a murderer and psychopath, obviously knows the Gordon family and its history well, and has tried to frame the Joker for his actions before in a story written by Snyder. The obvious question is whether Snyder would go there again so soon after the Black Mirror storyline. It's also possible that JGJ is a red herring of sorts.
Spoilers ahead, so doing the patented Kanspoilerblock. How you guys doing? I hope everyone's doing great!
Spoiler:
Tonight saw "Deathstroke the Terminator" introduced! And explored a bit more about the crazy Asian chap on the island. Turns out, he was a Chinese General who was left for dead on the island. Very interesting dynamic developing between Diggle and Oliver now as well. Less of a "Hero/Sidekick" and more like proper partners.
Been doing well, looking at the latest Previews, wondering if there was anything I want, and looking forward to March when I can get the second half of the Court of Owls.
Can someone who's read the first 11 issues of Batman tell me if issue #7 of Batman was a special issue, and not related to the Court of Owls? I'm only asking because the first hardcover book I have only goes from issues 1 to 6, and then the second book only covers issues 8 to 11 or so.
Nah, it was about the Court. My guess is that it will come bound with the Night of the Owls cross-over collection. Batman 7 is probably the prologue to issue 8 of the other Bat-titles, which all had Owls-related stories that month.
No, what I am saying is that you should look for an upcoming paperback collection of issue 8 of the Bat-titles, possibly leading with Batman 7.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Actually nevermind, for most titles it was issue 9.
Automatically Appended Next Post: And indeed, Batman 7 will not be in that collection:
Batman: The Night of the Owls HC Writers: Scott Snyder, James Tynion IV, Tony S. Daniel, Judd Winick, Peter J. Tomasi, Duane Swierczynski, Gail Simone, Scott Lobdell, Kyle Higgins, Justin Gray and Jimmy Palmiotti
Artists: Jason Fabok, Tony S. Daniel, Joel Gomez, Sandu Florea, David Finch, Richard Friend, Marcos To, Ryan Winn, Patrick Gleason, Mick Gray, Travel Foreman, Jeff Huet, Ardian Syaf, Vicente Sifuentes, Kenneth Rocafort, Guillem March, Eddy Barrows, Ruy Jose, Eber Ferreira and Moritat
Collects: BATMAN ANNUAL #1, DETECTIVE COMICS #9, BATMAN: THE DARK KNIGHT #9, BATWING #9, BATMAN AND ROBIN #9, RED HOOD AND THE OUTLAWS #9, BIRDS OF PREY #9, BATGIRL #9 and ALL-STAR WESTERN #9
$29.99 US, 360 pg
The book you listed is the "Night of Owls" hard cover, I'm looking for the second half of the Batman Court of Owls storyline, which is apparently The City of Owls.
I have the Annual already (I believe) as well as issues 11 and 12... So I have everything just after the CoO arc finishes up.
My (incorrect) theory was that Batman 7 may be in a Night of the Owls collection. What I noted was that amazon lists "Batman Vol. 2" as collecting the annual when DC says it's only Batman 8-12.
Dick is indeed Nightwing. (That's not a spoiler, btw.) And you are on the right track ... sort of! Muahahaha! I'll be glad to hear what you think when you read the issue.
That's pretty up to date for me. Did you hear? Xavier's dead!! Killed by crazy Cyclops!
Actually I just found that out. I don't read X-Men, so when I picked up my copy of Uncanny Avengers, they kinda revealed that for me :(
I'm trying to think... Cap is going to give up the presidency once the country stops being in shambles right? I just don't see him being a normal president. It's almost as if he SHOULD be simply acting president, very similar to how the Romans would suspend power to 1 man during times of war.
Well it was worth the exchange by Carol Danvers and Cap over comm-link(paraphrased);
Danvers: With all due respect sir get you ass back to Washington now!
Cap: Carol I have full confidence in you to run the country while I'm away
Danvers: I'm The Chief of Staff. That's not even my Job! What was that? Are you punching someone? Are you punching someone right now?!
Cap: Err, I gotta go!
Bought Carnage U.S.A. just because it had Venom in it. I really like Flash Thompson Venom (Flashnom?) and look forward to his team-up with Kaine.
Got some questions for you American readers, since German releases are so much behind (AvX is just starting).
How's War of the Green Lanters? I saw all 3 trades at the local store today and I'm still interested in reading something Lantern related, that doesn't star Hal Jordan. While we're at it: How's the Guardian series? You know, the one with Kyle (my favourite Lantern) leading the rainbow brigade.
Alfndrate wrote: I don't read the normal captain america comics, just Ultimate Comics: The Ultimates, is he president there too?
No, I think that would be too radical for the main universe. It's only Ultimate Captain America that is President Captain America the Ultimate...or something like that.
Perhaps getting ready for the jump over to Marvel Now? I can't read the story due to work block.
Last Friday I picked up All-New X-Men #1, Action Comics #14, Batman #14, Wolverine Max #1 (does anyone know anything about this?), Ultimate Comics - The Ultimates, Iron Man #1 (the new Marvel Now).
Only read Action Comics so far, not a bad issue this month, I'm curious to see what Superman does.
Has anyone been reading the New 52 Batwoman comics? If so, would you recommend it? Is the Hydrology trade paperback the one I want as a starting point?
Wow. That is incredibly lame. A body switch with the villian? Really? I mean... really?! How is that the next great thing everbody will talk about. And then he dies? Yeah, right. Like they're killing their most reconizable character for the 3rd time in 6 years.
Edit: I just thought about this a bit more and read another article on it. Does that mean that Doc Ock actually is the Superior Spider-Man and not Miguel O'Hara? Well... I'm still not interested. I like Otto as a villian, but I don't see any interesting developments in this story. Also a great way to scare of new readers.
AlexHolker wrote: Has anyone been reading the New 52 Batwoman comics? If so, would you recommend it? Is the Hydrology trade paperback the one I want as a starting point?
Batwoman is an alright book. If you like the character, then you'll like the book. IIRC, Batwoman continued on straight from its pre-New 52 issues so you'll actually want to start with Elegy before going on to Hydrology and To Drown the World.
I haven't read Spider-Man since the 90s, but my prediction is that this is something that could have worked, but won't.
Spoiler:
The core idea is a sound one - if you've got the right hero and the right villain, letting the villain decisively, finally win in this manner is a fine one. I only have a passing knowledge of Doctor Octopus but he could well be such a villain, and as for Spider-Man... better, perhaps, to put him out of his misery rather than keep him in eternal stasis as "that guy who sold his marriage to the devil". But again, I haven't been keeping up with the character so it's possible that Marvel managed to get him past that.
But if nothing else, the timing sucks. Doing this the same time Avengers Arena is going to start killing off favourite C-list young heroes for sport is not a good thing, and who knows what else Marvel's going to turn upside-down for their Marvel NOW! imprint. If you're going to do this to one of your capstone characters I think your other comics need to be lighter fare, unless you're deliberately trying to tell your audience that comics aren't fun.
Manchu wrote: Batwoman is an alright book. If you like the character, then you'll like the book. IIRC, Batwoman continued on straight from its pre-New 52 issues so you'll actually want to start with Elegy before going on to Hydrology and To Drown the World.
Thanks. I've only ever read a single Batman comic before, but I'd heard that this was one of the good things to come out of the New 52. Other comics I've read and enjoyed are Ultimates (before Loeb), Exiles and Runaways from Marvel, and Secret Six from DC.
I like it... I never liked Joker as a joke of a villain... Though to be fair, Cyporiean and Miskatonicalum were telling me last night that it wasn't as dark as the Killing Joke...
KamikazeCanuck wrote:I don't get what this Spider-Man "hooplah" is about. It's just a storyline. Everything will be back to normal in a few months.
At first I was like, you haven't been reading comics very long, have you?
But then, I was like, but that comment means he has been...
Then I realized, it is just that crazy ol' Kontrarian Kanuk again!
I honestly don't what you're going on about Alpharius. The author of the link provided by res8n made it seem like this is some apocalyptic Spider-Man event like Brand New Day. I think it's just a storyline though. How is that crazy contrarian? Unfortunately, Unwarrentedly Dismissive Alpharius isn't alliterative.
I thought about picking up a Batwoman comic a few months ago just because it was super good cover art. I think she was perched on a ledge with a heavy rain coming down. Will wait until Harley makes an appearance though.
KamikazeCanuck wrote: I honestly don't what you're going on about Alpharius. The author of the link provided by res8n made it seem like this is some apocalyptic Spider-Man event like Brand New Day. I think it's just a storyline though.
Spoiler:
That's what I was thinking. There's no way Doctor Octopus will stay being Spider-Man.
Well if it's a money grab, it's making me wonder about it... I'm heading down to the game store near my work, and I contemplated picked up the latest spiderman tonight...
It is just another stupid false-shocking crap storyline that in the end is a cynical money grab.
Though they've certainly stuck with the craptacular Mephisto Did It for a while now...
First of all you were also throwing out the "WTF Marvel" as if they've done something egregious here. Why is it cynical? It's just a storyline. Spider-Man is going to have to deal with some conflict and then overcome it. That's what he usually does. Marvel's job is to write stories that people may want to read and make money in the process.
Alfndrate wrote: Well if it's a money grab, it's making me wonder about it... I'm heading down to the game store near my work, and I contemplated picked up the latest spiderman tonight...
It's this kind of thing that makes me not interested in comics.
I understand why they do things the way they do, but it makes me not
interested in following the storylines. Stuff happens that don't have
lasting changes? Ah well.
And they have to be careful. They have a movie fanbase who may or
may not be into the twists they put into different storylines.
Alfndrate wrote: Well if it's a money grab, it's making me wonder about it... I'm heading down to the game store near my work, and I contemplated picked up the latest spiderman tonight...
It's this kind of thing that makes me not interested in comics.
I understand why they do things the way they do, but it makes me not interested in following the storylines. Stuff happens that don't have lasting changes? Ah well.
Exactly. That's why I'm pretty unexcited about this. In the end I bet it will go down like an extended Chameleon story.
In fact, when it's all said and done I bet it will have less effect than when Ulitmate Chameleon tried to screw up Ultimate Spider-man's life. As least that one resulted in J. Jonah Jameson permanetly knowing Spider-Man's identity.
Alfndrate wrote: Well if it's a money grab, it's making me wonder about it... I'm heading down to the game store near my work, and I contemplated picked up the latest spiderman tonight...
It's this kind of thing that makes me not interested in comics.
I understand why they do things the way they do, but it makes me not interested in following the storylines. Stuff happens that don't have lasting changes? Ah well.
Exactly. That's why I'm pretty unexcited about this. In the end I bet it will go down like an extended Chameleon story.
In fact, when it's all said and done I bet it will have less effect than when Ulitmate Chameleon tried to screw up Ultimate Spider-man's life. As least that one resulted in J. Jonah Jameson permanetly knowing Spider-Man's identity.
And then Peter died.
Spoiler:
I really hate body switch/evil doppelganger stories, because they always play out the exact same way, with the villian in the heroes body framing himsef for a crime and alianating his friends, who should all really know better at this point.
Anung Un Rama wrote: I really hate body switch/evil doppelganger stories, because they always play out the exact same way, with the villian in the heroes body framing himsef for a crime and alianating his friends, who should all really know better at this point.
That is clearly not the case here. Doctor Octopus isn't trying to frame Peter Parker, he's trying to kill Peter Parker. Framing Spider-Man for a crime would be stupid because Doctor Octopus has no intention of giving Peter Parker his body back - he'd only be framing himself.
That is clearly not the case here. Doctor Octopus isn't trying to frame Peter Parker, he's trying to kill Peter Parker. Framing Spider-Man for a crime would be stupid because Doctor Octopus has no intention of giving Peter Parker his body back - he'd only be framing himself.
Spoiler:
Because villians who pull the 'ol switcheroo always plan to give the body back once they're done, right?
That is clearly not the case here. Doctor Octopus isn't trying to frame Peter Parker, he's trying to kill Peter Parker. Framing Spider-Man for a crime would be stupid because Doctor Octopus has no intention of giving Peter Parker his body back - he'd only be framing himself.
Spoiler:
Because villians who pull the 'ol switcheroo always plan to give the body back once they're done, right?
Spoiler:
There ARE good examples of switcheroos. The one that
comes to mind is collegehumor's Street Fighter, the Later years.
I've really been enjoying Batwoman, although Batgirl, Batman and Robin, Birds of Prey and Nightwing have been my fave four titles in all.
In general I've been really enjoying the DCNU, added a couple of titles to my pulls list since It began, Supergirl, Batman and Robin both from issue 10 (got all the back orders/graphic novel to cover the missing ones) and I've preordered Justice League of America and Katana.
Not really been able to pick out a marvel line at the mo, but I have been picking up the UK 'catch up' Spiderman series, which just finished Spider Island.
The Doc Ock thing seems odd, but I'd need to read it to make a judgement
Read Amazing Spiderman 698, not too sold on that storyline, though it might be interesting to read once it's all said and done.
Wolverine Max #2, very meh series, not sure if I'll read the next three issues
All New X-Men #2, wtf Beast, wtf?! It's pretty good so far, I'm interested to see if the young x-men in the series are going to step into leadership roles, or if it's going to be the arc and then they go bye bye
Captain America #1 pretty good story, who knew that Cap was 90 years old.
Iron Man #2, Really looking forward to Tony take on this Camelot group, though he blew up extremis, so idk where the series will go from here lol
Read Avengers + X-Men 1 and 2 (had to pick up 1 to 2 more comics so I could get my frequent reader card stamped so my next trip is 10 dollars less ) I didn't realize they were short stories, I thought it was an overarching series... will probably not pick up any more lol.
Ultimate Comics: Spiderman, we get to see the battle against Hydra from a different view, and we get to see our little Miles Morales in action as he acts like a real soldier. This has quickly become my like favorite series. Also some interesting development on his Dad.
Uncanny Avengers #2 - Oh man, this is heating up . Rogue doing her thing sugah, Scarlet Witch, Captain America, Wolverine talking it out.
Anyone reading Uncanny X-Force? The only hero I recognize is Colossus and Cable...
What, even more than when Loeb started just killing everyone in Ultimatum
Those weren't exactly happy times either but I'd say yes. There worst(some think best) thing ever to happen to mutantkind has happened: there's a cure.
They've somehow managed to make Kitty Pryde the coolest X-Man and that's no mean feat.
KamikazeCanuck wrote: Anybody reading any Before Watchmen? I am, it's pretty good so far.
I've got them all saved to read in one sitting.
Well behind with my reading, but got my annual leave to use up so have a nice long xmas break coming up to catch up.
Hell, as it's the time of year for miracles I might even glue and/or paint some minis too !
That was my plan too but I was becoming concerned the giant pile of comics would crush me so gave in and started reading. Now I realize DC is actually very late on publishing most of the #4s. Damn you DC!
Automatically Appended Next Post: @Alfndrate: Ya what is Beast doing? Way to screw up the whole space-time continuum! I have a feeling something will happen that will erase the memories of the 60s X-Men before they get sent back.
I obviously need to look around Dakka more than just Infinity because I didn't know there was a comics thread.
I've been a comic fan for around 30 years now. I even used to work in the industry for a short lived comic magazine in the 90's called Hero Illustrated. I was the price guide editor for a time until they decided to ditch the price guide part. It was fun while it lasted.
When I was a kid I was into Marvel but then I got into DC and never looked back. Especially with my favorite comic the Legion of Super-Heroes. It is currently the ONLY comic I get. Along with Legion related titles like Legion Lost which is going to be cancelled in two more issues. I believe Legion was the first Teenage Super-Hero team starting back in 1958.
I'm still into other comics but I don't buy if I can. I get TPB from the library or wait for Christmas and Birthday.
I did however, at the Black Friday sale my local comics store had, get a bunch of the Batman Beyond Unlimited. It's based on the Batman Beyond cartoon but includes the future Superman and Justice League. So far it's really good. If I come into money I may start getting Thor too.
This is about half of the Legion team. It doesn't normally have Superman in it.
it was a pretty good mag. It was one of the few that showed what was then alternative comics to the main stream. Not as much as we wanted but oh well. I don't't count Image and Valiant as Indie back then.
I got to go to the San Diego con a few times with them. I almost got into a fight with a guy I shared a cab with who was from Wizard magazine. Wizard did NOT like competition. Hero couldn't compete with the already established Wizard anyway. I think they are still going too.
I purchased my first issue of Wizard the month after the last issue of Hero was released. Wizard was okay and I wish it was still around but only because I wish something like Wizard was still around. I especially loved the fanart that those mags printed. But how can a printed periodical compete with deviantART? Or the blogosphere? It's really too bad because I think that format offered something that the internet doesn't, although I don't quite know what it is as of posting this. I still get my G-Fan fanzine and it's a much better treat than Google search results.
It was definately that new fangled internet that killed the magazine star. Although I hadn't bought a Wizard for many years before its demise I did enjoy them when I was younger. As for what's missing I don't know but that magazine was often hilarious to read. It seemed like everyone was having fun making it. So perhaps its that intangible "personality" that's missing.
KamikazeCanuck wrote: It was definately that new fangled internet that killed the magazine star. Although I hadn't bought a Wizard for many years before its demise I did enjoy them when I was younger. As for what's missing I don't know but that magazine was often hilarious to read. It seemed like everyone was having fun making it. So perhaps its that intangible "personality" that's missing.
Agreed!
Certain sections definitely seemed that way.
It maybe got a bit too corporate towards the end, whatever that exactly means, but it was still a fun ride for a while.
I know working for Hero was fun! It was my first job out of college. I was working on my favorite thing. Comics! Of course being in the industry kinda ruined it for me too. I once had dinner with Rob Liefeld and could not understand how he got so popular. Seemed like a nice but big chip on his shoulder back then. Nicest guy in comics was Mike Allred. The creator/artist of Madman.
Wow, really did not like the begging of the age of Bendisless Avengers. Felt like dropping this title for the first time ever. I know there's a lot of Hickman FF fans here though, perhaps you guys will like it.
Was that the one with like all the side kicks being told they were too young to be a part of the justice league? I think I caught the first two episodes...
Sad for Gail Simone; happy for Batgirl ... tentatively. I never bought this comic because of Gail Simone. I always bought it and continue to buy it for Barbara Gordan as Batgirl.
The idea of Scott Lobdell writing Batgirl in the breach sounds awesome to me -- and not just because it would "break the internet." The internet is among the worst things to ever happen to comics.
Kanluwen wrote: I watched "Young Justice", but it suddenly vanished off the air.
From what I've heard it had to because DC lost the rights to at least two characters that were in the rest of the episodes. Static Shock, Icon and Rocket were owned by MIlestone, so the whole of DC Nation had to stop. There's talk that they are changing animation to fix it. Instead of Static the character might be Black Lightning instead.
But that might just be conspiracy nut thing too. DC says it was because of some 20th Anniversary thing.
It's a fantastic show with a good deep story for all ages I think. Though really young might get bored with it. My 6yo son loves the action but gets bored with the rest.
Kanluwen wrote: I watched "Young Justice", but it suddenly vanished off the air.
From what I've heard it had to because DC lost the rights to at least two characters that were in the rest of the episodes. Static Shock, Icon and Rocket were owned by MIlestone, so the whole of DC Nation had to stop. There's talk that they are changing animation to fix it. Instead of Static the character might be Black Lightning instead.
That would explain why I never heard about Icon and Rocket before. But didn't Static have his own (short-lived) book when the new 52 started? The old show was fun, I bet he would totally kick butt in Young Justice. I'm also crossing fingers that he'll show up in Injustice.
On the show itself: In my opinion, it's the best animated show since The Last Airbender and the best superhero cartoon since Batman TAS.
I read a terrible X-files/Planetary wannabe called Hoax Hunters.
Ugh.
In other news, Manhattan Projects is still kicking and awesome. Death
Buddhist fueled teleportation? Yes, please.
I'm sad because Spaceman is over. I really want to read it over
to see the whole Carter/Orson relationship. I'm also sad that the
Boys is over, but the panel with the Truth in it was classic.
Kanluwen wrote: I watched "Young Justice", but it suddenly vanished off the air.
From what I've heard it had to because DC lost the rights to at least two characters that were in the rest of the episodes. Static Shock, Icon and Rocket were owned by MIlestone, so the whole of DC Nation had to stop. There's talk that they are changing animation to fix it. Instead of Static the character might be Black Lightning instead.
That would explain why I never heard about Icon and Rocket before. But didn't Static have his own (short-lived) book when the new 52 started? The old show was fun, I bet he would totally kick butt in Young Justice. I'm also crossing fingers that he'll show up in Injustice.
On the show itself: In my opinion, it's the best animated show since The Last Airbender and the best superhero cartoon since Batman TAS.
It's got better character designs than in the comics too. There's been really quick shots of Hawkman and Guy Gardner that look WAY better than in the comics.
So far they have also had one reference to Legion of Super-Heroes, my fav comics, with the planet Rimbor being used. The home of Ultraboy in the future.
So, I bought my first ever comic at the start of november (Deadpool #1) and enjoyed it thoroughly, but having heard that many comics drop in quality after the first issue, went into the second with a teensy bit of trepidation.
I shouldn't have. #2 is just as funny, if not funnier in places than the first issue, and well worth getting. If the rest are this good then I may have to branch out into other series!
I knew Tommy Merlyn's father was going to fight GA at some point when they showed him fencing in a previous episode. I think most assume THE Merlyn would be Tommy though. That was a nice twist.
How about the suggestion of the name Green Arrow! That was fun.
I got my one of two comics yesterday. Legion Lost, and it sucks :( It's going to be cancelled with the next issue so I'm just getting it to complete it. The writer has obviously not read old Legion stories and doesn't know the characters.
DC Nation comes to Cartoon Network on January 5th!
Warner Bros. Animation’s DC Nation programming block comes soaring back, bringing action from the pages of DC Comics to the television screens of comic book fans of all ages. Green Lantern: The Animated Series goes retro-futuristic when it starts the block with the episode “Steam Lantern.” After being blasted by the Anti-Monitor, Hal finds himself in a steampunk world. Young Justice: Invasion answers lingering questions from the past season with “Before the Dawn,” when Blue Beetle, Miss Martian and the team go on a covert mission to rescue some of their own, uncovering shocking secrets and devastating truths. In between episodes, fans will enjoy all-new DC animated shorts starring some of their favorite DC Comics characters.
Green Lantern: The Animated Series will start up at 10 ET that Saturday with Young Justice: Invasion following at 10:30.
Finally! Why is it that my favourite cartoons always get such ridicouus long delays?
I recently read a rumor that Young Justice had to be put on hold because DC lost the rights to Static Shock and they had to alter the show accordingly. Do you guys know something about that? He appeared in the new 52 Teen Titans but I think his own book got canceled.
Batman #15, Action Comics #15, Ultimates, New X-Men, Iron Man 3 and 4, and a few others... Cable and X-Force #1 was interesting... I'm not sure if I'm going to keep reading that one... The last cable stuff I read, he went crazy and needed Deadpool's help.
Watched episode 5 and 6 of Arrow. It's nice to have a new live action superhero tv show, but sometimes I wish they wouldn't be so afraid of using more material from the comics. Deathstroke looks really cool, but what exactly does this version of the Royal Flush Gang have in common with the comic version? They're not even calling them by name. Throw us a bone now and then. Ans is there any supporting character who's not a villian actually from the comics?
Great to have YJ back soon! The thing about DC loosing the rights to Static and others was a rumor. But it's not confirmed if true or not. DC said they did it on purpose. If it was they went about it wrong I think.
Arrow has been great but I'm getting kinda sick of the adult "teen angst". CW over-does that a bit I think. I'm kinda sad that they have said there will never be any super powers in the the show. So no Black Canary Cry.
I geeked out on Saturday. I went to a small comic show near me and bought a bunch of Legion of Super-Heroes Heroclix. I didn't realize they did the Legion! They were pretty cheap too. A bunch for $1, $2, and two of them for $5. Never played the game and probably wont. I just wanted the figures. But now I'm thinking it would be pretty cool to play. So anyone here play Heroclix?
So, I picked up Deadpool #3, Thunderbolts #1-2, and was roped into getting Amazing Spider-Man #700, and I'd recommend all of them. (I didn't get them all at once, it was over the course of a couple of weeks)
Deadpool is getting wierder, but in a good way, with some quite odd moments (odder than they were already).
Thunderbolts is getting more active after being fairly talky in #1, and has some decent action scenes, though it did seem a teensy bit short.
Amazing Spider-Man #700 was brilliant, it established how it'd gotten to that situation well, and had quite an interesting new dynamic (new as far as I can tell anyway), followed by an ending that surprised me. (then a couple of quite cool mini comics), the £6/$8 price tag did put me off slightly though.
All in all, I'm spending far too much time and money on comics, but enjoying them, so I don't think I'll stop at this point
What's the Thunderbolts roster these days? I've read some of their comics from the old days (and think MACH-1 and Songbird are great), but nothing since then.
CDK wrote: Does anyone here get Digital comics? If so what do you think of it?
I hate to admit it but I'm thinking of going over to the dark side of digital comics. It's just so hard to find some back issues and then they cost more. Not to mention I have to wait over a month for some TPBs from my local store.
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AlexHolker wrote: What's the Thunderbolts roster these days? I've read some of their comics from the old days (and think MACH-1 and Songbird are great), but nothing since then.
Totally different now: Red Hulk, Punisher, Deadpool, Venom (Flash Thompson), Elektra and a few more to come.
Alfndrate wrote: Is the Red Hulk the type of hulk to go faster or be angry(ier) all the time?
40K Ork + Marvel Comics Joke = Not funny.
And no, he isn't any faster...
But is he angrier? You didn't answer that Alph...
Also, who's to say that what I said wasn't funny? I found it humorous, or else I wouldn't have posted it And instead of belittling me and my obvious lack of comic knowledge Anung answered my question quite well, I didn't know who the Red Hulk was... I still don't think you can create a comic series after someone that gets angry and breaks things.
Picked up a few of the Marvel now #1 issues, and the current Red She-hulk. Not too bad, might carry on getting Thunderbolts, enjoyed that one in particular, uncanny Avengers #1 was pretty good as well.
Alfndrate wrote: Is the Red Hulk the type of hulk to go faster or be angry(ier) all the time?
40K Ork + Marvel Comics Joke = Not funny.
And no, he isn't any faster...
But is he angrier? You didn't answer that Alph...
Also, who's to say that what I said wasn't funny? I found it humorous, or else I wouldn't have posted it And instead of belittling me and my obvious lack of comic knowledge Anung answered my question quite well, I didn't know who the Red Hulk was... I still don't think you can create a comic series after someone that gets angry and breaks things.
1) Huh? The Hulk...
2) Ha! A startling lack of a sense of humor on display, right there!
That right there? That's why I'm putting you back on ignore. You antagonize me at least once a week. I believe the website's rules are to be polite? Idk what I did to you for you to poke and prod with comments like "Back to the Wyrd thread with you!" which is off topic to the thread at hand, and also under handed, but it's pointless and does nothing but serve your ego. Thanks for making me feeling like a contributing member of the website. If you have an issue with me, I have no problem taking this to PMs or having another moderator or higher up help us out, but I'm through putting up with the gak you serve to me on a silver platter.
Anyway, read ASM #700 and I have to admit, I am SHOCKED with how it ended, can't believe they went the direction they did with it, and cannot see any way possible to... well...
Red Hulk goes faster. That took me a sec but funny. Anyway, he's not angrier because he retains his personality when he transforms. He's a smarter, calmer Hulk.
I have bought some Classic Ghost Rider(1970s). I fething hate him, he is so fricking whiny about it and the villain in the first colelction is a bit of a joke. It is pathetic compared to the new Ghost Rider where he to battle Lucifer.
Anyway, read ASM #700 and I have to admit, I am SHOCKED with how it ended, can't believe they went the direction they did with it, and cannot see any way possible to... well...
This.
I mean, I saw from the title of another thread in OT how it ended, but I didn't see it going in this particular direction.
I'm also not really sure how I feel about it, what with the fact that Doc Ock is kind of really evil.
Anyway, read ASM #700 and I have to admit, I am SHOCKED with how it ended, can't believe they went the direction they did with it, and cannot see any way possible to... well...
This.
I mean, I saw from the title of another thread in OT how it ended, but I didn't see it going in this particular direction.
I'm also not really sure how I feel about it, what with the fact that Doc Ock is kind of really evil.
I like Doc Ock as a Spidey villian, but more from a visual standpoint than from a story perspective. The movie had a good point, but he never struck me as a moraly complex villian.
Anyway, read ASM #700 and I have to admit, I am SHOCKED with how it ended, can't believe they went the direction they did with it, and cannot see any way possible to... well...
This.
I mean, I saw from the title of another thread in OT how it ended, but I didn't see it going in this particular direction.
I'm also not really sure how I feel about it, what with the fact that Doc Ock is kind of really evil.
I like Doc Ock as a Spidey villian, but more from a visual standpoint than from a story perspective. The movie had a good point, but he never struck me as a moraly complex villian.
My point about him being evil was more to do with the ending of Amazing Spider-Man #700 than to do with the complexity of the character.
*Do not read if you don't want to be spoiled as to the ending*
Spoiler:
Seriously, don't.
Spoiler:
The series ends with Doc Ock having swapped minds with Peter Parker, with his original body being minutes away from death, and so Peter Parker spends the issue trying to get his body back, but ends up forcing his own morality into Doc Ock's mind, so he's now convinced to carry on Spider-Man's legacy, with Parker's mind and Doc Ock's body being dead.
This makes me curious for a couple of reasons:
A) Doc Ock used to be really evil, and only a page or so before his change of heart, attacked Parker's family members, so I find it difficult to believe that he could suddenly become a pillar of goodness so quickly
B) I can't see any way for Parker's consciousness to be resurrected, as even if someone works out that his body has a new mind in, there isn't really a conceivable way of resurrecting a specific mind, then putting it back into a body.
So yeah, that's my 2 cents on the matter from my fairly limited viewpoint of the marvel universe.
Anyway, read ASM #700 and I have to admit, I am SHOCKED with how it ended, can't believe they went the direction they did with it, and cannot see any way possible to... well...
This.
I mean, I saw from the title of another thread in OT how it ended, but I didn't see it going in this particular direction.
I'm also not really sure how I feel about it, what with the fact that Doc Ock is kind of really evil.
I like Doc Ock as a Spidey villian, but more from a visual standpoint than from a story perspective. The movie had a good point, but he never struck me as a moraly complex villian.
My point about him being evil was more to do with the ending of Amazing Spider-Man #700 than to do with the complexity of the character.
*Do not read if you don't want to be spoiled as to the ending*
Spoiler:
Seriously, don't.
Spoiler:
The series ends with Doc Ock having swapped minds with Peter Parker, with his original body being minutes away from death, and so Peter Parker spends the issue trying to get his body back, but ends up forcing his own morality into Doc Ock's mind, so he's now convinced to carry on Spider-Man's legacy, with Parker's mind and Doc Ock's body being dead.
This makes me curious for a couple of reasons:
A) Doc Ock used to be really evil, and only a page or so before his change of heart, attacked Parker's family members, so I find it difficult to believe that he could suddenly become a pillar of goodness so quickly
B) I can't see any way for Parker's consciousness to be resurrected, as even if someone works out that his body has a new mind in, there isn't really a conceivable way of resurrecting a specific mind, then putting it back into a body.
So yeah, that's my 2 cents on the matter from my fairly limited viewpoint of the marvel universe.
WTH? So is the next issue #1 because now it's Doc Ock?
Like I said earlier, the next issue is probably the jump to Marvel Now.
Some have started over with issue numbering, others have stayed the same. I believe this one is starting over with #1 because it's no longer the Amazing Spider-Man, it's now the Superior Spider-Man.
Anyway, read ASM #700 and I have to admit, I am SHOCKED with how it ended, can't believe they went the direction they did with it, and cannot see any way possible to... well...
This.
I mean, I saw from the title of another thread in OT how it ended, but I didn't see it going in this particular direction.
I'm also not really sure how I feel about it, what with the fact that Doc Ock is kind of really evil.
I like Doc Ock as a Spidey villian, but more from a visual standpoint than from a story perspective. The movie had a good point, but he never struck me as a moraly complex villian.
My point about him being evil was more to do with the ending of Amazing Spider-Man #700 than to do with the complexity of the character.
*Do not read if you don't want to be spoiled as to the ending*
Spoiler:
Seriously, don't.
Spoiler:
The series ends with Doc Ock having swapped minds with Peter Parker, with his original body being minutes away from death, and so Peter Parker spends the issue trying to get his body back, but ends up forcing his own morality into Doc Ock's mind, so he's now convinced to carry on Spider-Man's legacy, with Parker's mind and Doc Ock's body being dead.
This makes me curious for a couple of reasons:
A) Doc Ock used to be really evil, and only a page or so before his change of heart, attacked Parker's family members, so I find it difficult to believe that he could suddenly become a pillar of goodness so quickly
B) I can't see any way for Parker's consciousness to be resurrected, as even if someone works out that his body has a new mind in, there isn't really a conceivable way of resurrecting a specific mind, then putting it back into a body.
So yeah, that's my 2 cents on the matter from my fairly limited viewpoint of the marvel universe.
WTH? So is the next issue #1 because now it's Doc Ock?
Issue #700 was the final issue of The Amazing Spider-Man, which will be rebooted in January as The Superior Spider-Man, with Superior referring to the fact that Peter Parker is now a genius due to him having Doc Ock's mind.
Alfndrate wrote: Like I said earlier, the next issue is probably the jump to Marvel Now.
Some have started over with issue numbering, others have stayed the same. I believe this one is starting over with #1 because it's no longer the Amazing Spider-Man, it's now the Superior Spider-Man.
We'll have to see
Waiting is over, we've already seen - it is Doc Ock as "Peter" and Spider-Man.
For how long is anyone's guess, but I'll say... about a year, if that.
Alfndrate wrote: Like I said earlier, the next issue is probably the jump to Marvel Now.
Some have started over with issue numbering, others have stayed the same. I believe this one is starting over with #1 because it's no longer the Amazing Spider-Man, it's now the Superior Spider-Man.
We'll have to see
Waiting is over, we've already seen - it is Doc Ock as "Peter" and Spider-Man.
For how long is anyone's guess, but I'll say... about a year, if that.
That's the thing, I can't see them staying this way forever, because it just seems a bit off, but I also can't see any way of concievably resurrecting Parker's conciousness.
Alfndrate wrote: Like I said earlier, the next issue is probably the jump to Marvel Now.
Some have started over with issue numbering, others have stayed the same. I believe this one is starting over with #1 because it's no longer the Amazing Spider-Man, it's now the Superior Spider-Man.
We'll have to see
That's the thing, I can't see them staying this way forever, because it just seems a bit off, but I also can't see any way of concievably resurrecting Parker's conciousness.
I don't see this being a long term thing either, but I'm not in the comics marketing business... Though someone did post the cover image of SSM #1 several pages ago, it showed a change in Spidey's costume, namely the removal of the blue and the addition of black.
Please excuse my inexperience with this sort of thing, but I keep on seeing people talk about getting their comics in/from "trades".
What does that mean? Is it just trading comics with people? or Trade shows? or some wierd obscure terminology that most people won't know?
Goliath wrote: Please excuse my inexperience with this sort of thing, but I keep on seeing people talk about getting their comics in/from "trades".
What does that mean? Is it just trading comics with people? or Trade shows? or some wierd obscure terminology that most people won't know?
I assume they refer to trade paperbacks: compilations of 6-10 issues in a single book.
Any of you read Black Summer written by Warren Ellis and
drawn by Juan Jose Ryp?
I'm re-reading it, and it's the kind of work that you wish had been
more than a self-contained story, but you understand why it isn't.
Basically an enhanced vigilante kills the president and his former
teammates try to take him down. However, they are being hunted
as well. They reveal the enhancement process in a series of
flashbacks that shows you how the Seven Guns was put together.
Howard A Treesong wrote:Has anyone else been following the Star Trek Doctor Who crossover? It's just finished with the 8th issue.
I read the first TPB and was quite dissapointed. The art looks like a water color painting and doesn't fit the atmosphere of either setting. The story takes way too long to get going and even when the Doctor reaches the Enterprise, it's not as fun as it should be.
It seems like Marvel's AR stuff is improving. I stoped using it when it just seemed to be showing me the pencils underneath but now it seems to have taken the place of those old-timey footnotes that said things like "See FF #217 -Helpful Bob".
All-New X-Men has been a page turner for me. Cyclops has truly changed, he has fully gone into The Magneto school of thought but can't admit it. Having the original X-Men around shows him and the readers that. We've seen lots of young superhero startup groups stories and Ultimate style rebooting stories but I haven't read something like this. It's like combo of the two. They've managed to keep all their continuity yet have a young fresh team but not of new no-name characters.
Meanwhile, also digging my Walking Dead and Invincible as usual.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Ya, so of course right after I post how Marvel AR is pretty good now the time I use it Diamond Dallas Page tries to sell me Yoga.
What....the.....Feth?!?!?!?
Talk about a mixed bag...
Anung Un Rama wrote: X-Men sounds interesting. Can I assume that one can just jump into the new series, since it's a re-launch?
Well I would say it's the fallout of AvX both emotionally and storyline wise. That shows his downward spiral. However that's a bunch of comics so you could just click:
Spoiler:
Cyclops goes mad with power from The Phoenix Force and kills Xavier. That's the super short story, he's been getting darker for years before that.
KamikazeCanuck wrote: Well I would say it's the fallout of AvX both emotionally and storyline wise. That shows his downward spiral. However that's a bunch of comics so you could just click:
Spoiler:
Cyclops goes mad with power from The Phoenix Force and kills Xavier. That's the super short story, he's been getting darker for years before that.
Spoiler:
I heard that he kills Xavier, but still... this is weird. I mean, Cyclops becoming evil? I just don't see it. He's Cyclops for crying out loud! He's supposed to be the boy scout. The one who always keeps his head on straight. What if Leonardo or Goliath suddenly turned like that.
KamikazeCanuck wrote: Well I would say it's the fallout of AvX both emotionally and storyline wise. That shows his downward spiral. However that's a bunch of comics so you could just click:
Spoiler:
Cyclops goes mad with power from The Phoenix Force and kills Xavier. That's the super short story, he's been getting darker for years before that.
Spoiler:
I heard that he kills Xavier, but still... this is weird. I mean, Cyclops becoming evil? I just don't see it. He's Cyclops for crying out loud! He's supposed to be the boy scout. The one who always keeps his head on straight. What if Leonardo or Goliath suddenly turned like that.
It's not so black and white, which is why I think I like it. There's a lot of names you could call Cyclops but simply evil is an oversimplification. Nonetheless he's become very unxavier like yet still thinks he's an X-Man.
KamikazeCanuck wrote: Well I would say it's the fallout of AvX both emotionally and storyline wise. That shows his downward spiral. However that's a bunch of comics so you could just click:
Spoiler:
Cyclops goes mad with power from The Phoenix Force and kills Xavier. That's the super short story, he's been getting darker for years before that.
Spoiler:
I heard that he kills Xavier, but still... this is weird. I mean, Cyclops becoming evil? I just don't see it. He's Cyclops for crying out loud! He's supposed to be the boy scout. The one who always keeps his head on straight. What if Leonardo or Goliath suddenly turned like that.
Cyclops started getting darker back in Ages of Apocalypse (not to be confused with Age of Apocalypse) where Apocalypse gathered 'the twelve' with the intent to possess Nate Grey. Cyclops saved him, and became Apocalypse's host body. Cyclops' heroism clashed with Apocalypse's mind and both characters were temporarily lost and amnesiac, until Jean and Cable hunted him down and forcibly separated Apocalypse from Cyclops. Cyclops, however, retained a small piece of Apocalypse's personality, and that is what gave him his darker side. Also, Xavier was a clone. Who cares? The Shi'Ar cloned him once, they can do it again.
I think Cyclops began to go downhill when he cheated on Jean Grey with Emma Frosst. That's when I began to dislike him. He'd go on to make many questionable decisions afterwards and no doubt having Emma in his ear (well head) had something to do with that.
KamikazeCanuck wrote: I think Cyclops began to go downhill when he cheated on Jean Grey with Emma Frosst. That's when I began to dislike him. He'd go on to make many questionable decisions afterwards and no doubt having Emma in his ear (well head) had something to do with that.
This also happened post-possession by Apocalypse. It's arguable how much is/was his fault, Apocalypse's influence, and Emma Frost's manipulation. Personally, I raise an eyebrow to him tossing aside the woman who risked her life to bring him back from the living death he was in, plus redheads are hotter than blondes...but it's also hard to keep going back to bed with a reanimated corpse. Maybe that caught up to him?
Just read two more issues of Court of Owls and it's still amazing. I think this might be my favourite Batman story since Hush. The way Batman is almost beaten and then gets a second wind and beats the crap out of Talon, smashing him through marble walls through sheer force of will. Wonderful.
I'm totally buying a trade version once my brother and I are done with the story in the regular series.
Picked up Superior Spider-Man #1 and Thunderbolts #3.
I have to say that while I was sort of okay with the large amount of talking in thunderbolts #1&2, #3 sucks.
It's half advertising, and the only action scene lasts 2 panels, with the rest of it being exposition. They introduce a long standing character for no reason other than to make it so that the actual villain has a famous name, and you definitely know that it's a famous name, then kill of the character with him having said "muuhhh". I'm very tempted to stop buying it.
Superior Spider-Man on the other hand was very enjoyable, it added a new angle to the Spider-Man character, surprisingly it has more blood than thunderbolts, (that says more about how slow thunderbolts is than Spider-Man) and has some amusing villains.
Also to those who were predicting that Parker would return sooner or later (quite a big spoiler here, seriously don't read it if you don't like spoilers)
Spoiler:
theres some wierd force ghost stuff with Parker stopping Octavius killing at the end, and Parker vowing to return. So there's that.
Hey Manchu can you recommend me some Dredd comics?
I just watched the AWESOME new movie and have the urge to give the series another chance. I read a few a long time ago but was really turned off by the art so I never really gave it a fair go. I think the artwork has changed from what I read and considering your avatars I'm guessing your knowledgeable so I'd like to try again.
On Topic I just finished "Supergod" by Warren Ellis. Quality stuff IMO. Recommended if you're not burned out on the anti-hero genre, but appreciate a send-up.
Then again Transmetropolitan is my 2nd favorite comic ever so I am biased.
IDW is currently printing Judge Dredd comics and collections in the USA.
Their first hardcover retrospective is a collection of Brian Bolland's work -- some good stuff in here and an excellent format. I had been buying the American reprint of the complete case files before 2000AD cut its deal with IDW, otherwise I'd he all over this.
If you want current JD stories otherwise, you'll need to find copies of 2000AD or Judge Dredd Megazine, which some US comic shops offer or can get for you. A direct sub is not very affordable. I had the Meg to my door for a year and honestly didn't enjoy it much. The magazine-style of both books somehow puts me off, which I'm sure will get British eyes around here rolling. The biggest problem was I didn't think the stories were very strong and the art was kind of flat save for one Judge Anderson story, which looked like something out of mid-90s Heavy Metal (minus bare titties).
They said his name as Virgil but he's not Static yet. But it does look like there was no problem with the license as some put out. I'm happy about that. I'm really curious as to any new characters that may be created too. I'm betting on the one kid becoming Apache Chief!
The whole Batman family of titles is really starting to slip and suffer with the DEATH OF THE FAMILY crossover.
This group of books was previously quite strong, with DETECTIVE and BATMAN AND ROBIN leading the way - and with BATMAN AND ROBIN really surprising me in terms of how good it was and how much I liked it! Especially as I was not a huge fan of Damien to begin with.
Now, with the 'return' of the Joker feeling so forced, all the books are starting to slip in terms of overall quality.
THE DARK KNIGHT was, not surprisingly, already the stinker of the bunch.
Part of the problem may be down to DC's Reboot that Wasn't a Reboot - yet.. it was?
Part of the problem may be down to DC's Reboot that Wasn't a Reboot - yet.. it was?
Indeed, especially the Batman books. When Batman #1 cameout he's already got 3 Robins....that doesn't seem like a restart to me. So what's the advantage? You get to redo old storylines! Excellent!
Just read the first issue of the Injustice prequel comic. Got me even more hyped for the game.
In the process, I installed the DC App on the family iPad and now I have to really hold back to not immediatly buy the Batman Beyond comics that haven't been released as trade yet.
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Oh Gork. Please tell me I can't read IDWs TMNT stuff digitally.
Manchu wrote: Anung Un Rama, Batman Beyond TPBs are being released in April.
Thanks Manchu. Amazon.uk says May. I guess I could wait that long.
Has anyone read IDW's Infestation 2. I was dissapointed by their first event, but I kinda want to read Infestation 2, because it has the Ninja Turtles in it.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Oh, and Justice League: Beyond is also finally getting a TPB release. With art from Dustin Nguyen. I love that guy!
Anung Un Rama wrote: Just read the first issue of the Injustice prequel comic. Got me even more hyped for the game.
In the process, I installed the DC App on the family iPad and now I have to really hold back to not immediatly buy the Batman Beyond comics that haven't been released as trade yet.
...
Oh Gork. Please tell me I can't read IDWs TMNT stuff digitally.
When my comics store had a sale a few months ago. All new, but not that weeks new comics, were half off. I already had Batman Beyond 1 so I picked up 2-8. It's a fantastic book. I mainly like the Justice League though.
"Arrow" has begun its second half of the first season tonight, in a big way. I was veeeerry surprised at it. Spoiler ahead and as such I'm doing my Kanblock (patent pending).
Spoiler:
The villain tonight is not one I'd really think of as part of the Green Arrow's Rogue Gallery. It was the Firefly! They even had a little bit of a "tribute" to the character, in the form of a split second shot of the villain's hand...which has a tattoo in the shape of Garfield Lynn's most recent iteration of the Firefly helmet.
Loving it!
Edit:
Spoiler:
The killer just got named, Garfield Lynn. Firefighter who was a member of "The Fireflies", a ladder company. Died in a fire...or did he?
I just finished the last Legion Lost. It ended at #16. Unfortunately I think the whole series was not well thought out and did more to make existing Legion fans angry. I also think it was affected by a Marvel effect. They had brought in a Marvel writer to do it about half way and I don't think it worked at all. I just don't want that Marvel writing style in my DC. I love DC characters for a reason. You can tell in this issue too that it wasn't known it was going to be cancelled because it's ends abruptly as if it's expecting another issue. Hopefully the characters will soon make it back to the future to be in regular Legion book again.
On topic I've just started reading the whole Exiles series. Much underrated for Marvel in my opinion. Really love the issue where the entire West Coast of America is overrun by a mutant strain of Doc Connor's Lizardman virus. Really cool series overall.
DutchKillsRambo wrote: On topic I've just started reading the whole Exiles series. Much underrated for Marvel in my opinion. Really love the issue where the entire West Coast of America is overrun by a mutant strain of Doc Connor's Lizardman virus. Really cool series overall.
It is. And it's one of those series that draws from the entire imprint without requiring specific foreknowledge, so not being familiar with the backstory isn't a deal breaker.
Manchu wrote: I tried reading it and ... couldn't get interested.
I'm vaguely sad to see Blue Beetle go. Grifter ... well, I never liked Wildstorm. Too Marvel.
Exactly. I only read it because if has some of my favorite Legion characters. I didn't know about BB. I could care less about any Wildstorm character. I never thought they fit with DC.
Bought a big TPB of Frankenstein, Agent of SHADE today. I really enjoyed Frankencastle, so I'm looking forward to this one.
Now that I have access to the DC App, I'm tempted to try out a few comics that don't get a German release. Would you recommend Birds of Prey or Batwing?
What made you like Batwing more than Birds of Prey?
Obviously, I disagree. Batwing is grotesque. I acknowledge that some can find that pleasant. I know I like grotesque things in other circumstances, for example.
But it seems to me that, at least since Frank Miller, the Bat-books have been escalating in terms of brutality according to the misplaced sentiment that this characteristic earns them legitimacy. Chris Nolan's films are the most famous example but even he was just following the comics.
Gotham, as portrayed since the 1980s, doesn't make sense in a nation that also contains Metropolis. Despite the efforts of Batman and Wayne Enterprises, the conditions are (when convenient to the story line, which is often) basically third-world. The No Man's Land storyline (1999), involving the United States disowning Gotham, simply took note of this development. Of course, that storyline had a major influence on Nolan's Dark Knight Rises.
You can see why Grant Morrison, when re-inventing the Batmen of All Nations concept vis-a-vis Batman, Inc., would pick the Congo as the home of his "Batman of Africa." (And note, there was no Batman of Africa in the '50s.) Judd Winick, whose trade is dramatizing reality (see MTV's Real World), is right at home working with plot elements like child soldiers.
You'll recall that Winnick also wrote the Red Hood arc, which is a "first-world" fantasy vision of child soldier PTSD. It's a great story and I really enjoyed it. But there's something distasteful about working through such concepts in a more literalized way with superheroes. The child soldiers of the Third World are, after all, not the wards of eccentric billionaires ... but, of course, as soon as I type that, I realize I've given myself an example of the kind of repugnant irony that drove me away from Batwing. (To be fair, I guess men like Jospeh Kony aren't nearly as wealthy as Bruce Wayne.)
That's not to say that any irony is intended. Batwing is a very earnest title. It's been praised as "gritty" and "real." I've heard some readers claim that its setting lends "urgency." I just don't see it. Or rather, I see the attempt but i don't think it's comes out to anything "important" -- just more escalation.
The current Death of the Family arc has given us a number of issues with die-cut covers of the Joker's peeled-off face. This is actually a new height of depravity in the Bat-titles -- that's the most important reason they did it -- but it's hard to tell. It's just not much of a shock, which is frankly troubling. The pages of Batwing were the same for me.
Nolan's version of the Joker is kind of the personification of this escalation. I find myself wanting to ask him, "why so serious?"
Birds of Prey just wouldn't click with me. I like Black Canary in every animated incarnation (especially the recent one from Young Justice) but here she felt a bit lame. The artwork wasn't that impressive either. And apart from her, there weren't any characters in it I enjoy. Barbs doesn't count... anymore.
I have to mention that this is the first time I read something with Batwing in it. What I like about him is in fact, the setting. There were no child soldiers in the first issue, but I see your problem with it. When I really think about what I find appealing about this character, I come to the conclusion, that I like the idea of putting a larger-than-life superhero in a place which really is that bad in real life. You and me, we can't do anything about warlords and mass murder in Africa, but there is something cathartic about seeing a superhero take on these problems. Grotesque, probably, but also enjoyable on a certain level.
Intermission: I really hope I'm not stepping on any toes here. I'm afraid I might know enough about the character or the real world situation "down there", but I enjoy this kind of conversation about the medium. Anyway....
I just checked Batwings wikia page. Didn't know he was a child soldier. If they talk about it in the first issue I must've missed it. Is it really that bad, that the author works with these issues? On a similar note, you might take offense on Django Unchained, which does something similar. You take a very real and dark fact from history, but give it a positive spin by adding a hero who gets to defeat the bad guys. Oversimplified (is that a real word?) sure, but again, for me this is a reason to enjoy the story.
One might also argue that Damian's origin is much more unrealistic, but yet no less disturbing. A 10 year old born and raised to kill. And kill he does.
Death of the Family just started for you, but it'll take some time till I get my turn with it. I'm reading the monthly series in German. I saw some of the Joker covers but apart from those I never felt the regular Batman stories threatened to drift off intro Miller-brutality.
And how is Nolan's Joker worse than the one from Alan Moore?
Anung Un Rama wrote: Is it really that bad, that the author works with these issues?
Nah, it's not "bad." I just don't like it. Big difference.
I'm kind of exhausted by the escalation I mentioned. It's not really too big of a deal and it doesn't prevent me from buying basically every Bat-title except Batwing every month. There is one issue nagging at me: I don't have kids and I'm not a prudish guy but it pains me to realize if I did have kids I wouldn't in good conscience be able to hand them any issue of any of the current Batman titles. That seems a shame.
Anung Un Rama wrote: One might also argue that Damian's origin is much more unrealistic, but yet no less disturbing. A 10 year old born and raised to kill. And kill he does.
Of course, there can be no mistaking Damien for anything possible in the real world. That's why he belongs to the World of Superheroes.
Anung Un Rama wrote: And how is Nolan's Joker worse than the one from Alan Moore?
It's not really a matter of better or worse. Like I said, Nolan was just following the way comics have gone since the 80s. Comic books have traditionaly been "ahead of" movies, although that seems to be less the case now than before.
Anung Un Rama wrote: You take a very real and dark fact from history, but give it a positive spin by adding a hero who gets to defeat the bad guys.
I understand why people like these "righteous revenge" type fantasies but they're rarely to my taste.
DutchKillsRambo wrote: On topic I've just started reading the whole Exiles series. Much underrated for Marvel in my opinion. Really love the issue where the entire West Coast of America is overrun by a mutant strain of Doc Connor's Lizardman virus. Really cool series overall.
I'm gonna do you a favor here-stop before Claremont starts in on it. Exiles is a great series, but once he starts, he begins removing characters and kicking them off the team and replacing them with characters he created. The earlier the Exiles, the better. I've read through the whole thing, and I agree-it is seriously cool. Just that Claremont does a bad job here-I like some of his work, but not on this.
DutchKillsRambo wrote: On topic I've just started reading the whole Exiles series. Much underrated for Marvel in my opinion. Really love the issue where the entire West Coast of America is overrun by a mutant strain of Doc Connor's Lizardman virus. Really cool series overall.
I'm gonna do you a favor here-stop before Claremont starts in on it. Exiles is a great series, but once he starts, he begins removing characters and kicking them off the team and replacing them with characters he created. The earlier the Exiles, the better. I've read through the whole thing, and I agree-it is seriously cool. Just that Claremont does a bad job here-I like some of his work, but not on this.
I'm rereading so I'm fully aware the end wasn't as good as the beginning. Its actually one the few series I own from issue one through 87(?) I think, so almost the entirety. I still think it stands out highly for Marvel when you compare it other series of the same time period (Fantomex I'm looking at you). Not the best surely, but overall really, really fun I think. And to me thats what Marvel should be about. When I want serious I look for Vertigo or Image, mostly.
Nolan's films are pretty tame compared to the comics actually. They're just PG-13. The comics would R. But even when I was a kid they were pretty brutal too, although I'm sure they have escalated as well.
I think a cities like Gotham and Metropolis could exist in the same country. In fact that kind of disparity exists just within cities irl.
KamikazeCanuck wrote: But even when I was a kid they were pretty brutal too, although I'm sure they have escalated as welll.
That's exactly the problem with this escalation -- it does not seem to matter.
I'm no censor. If violence or sexuality is significant to the meaning of the story, then by all means print it. But if it serves no purpose, it becomes merely depraved. What do I mean by "no purpose"?
Interestingly, even as the Bat-titles have become more savage, the sales have not really increased and have actually steadily decreased.* Now, I'm not saying that the decline in comics sales is caused by the escalation. What I am saying is the escalation is doing nothing to prevent the decline in sales. It seems to me that the escalation is at this point a vain attempt to merely "keep up" with the market. And in fact, comics sold much better before Moore and Miller and others kicked off, unwittingly or otherwise, this escalation. I realize that sales don't necessarily match up to quality but I don't think the escalation has really delivered better stories, either. Grant Morrison, for example, has to my mind demonstrated that the wacky stories of the Silver Age are in their own way just as good as any of the grimmer fair created since.
Going back to Anung Un Rama's question, what makes Nolan's Joker worse than Moore's? Again, nothing. Moore's Joker sticks with us because it was very shocking at the time compared to other Batman titles. Similarly, Nolan's Joker stands out as shocking compared to Burton's Joker. But Nolan's Joker isn't shocking at all compared to Moore's Joker -- because Nolan was just following in Moore's footsteps. This is an example of how the escalation doesn't matter. Twenty five years ago, the Joker shot Babs in the spine and gak got serious. Today, the Joker has his face cut off and we barely react. It doesn't stand out. It's just more of the same. Turning it "up to eleven" doesn't matter because we're already deaf.
In this era, more of this kind of "grittiness" is not going to stand out. Cranking it up even further is just getting into bad taste. How are we going to shock them? Have the Joker sodomize a puppy or something? At what point do we say, "that's just unnecessary." It's not just boring; it's also stupid and gross. I don't need to declare that we have reached that point or that we're getting close to it. Just the fact that we're on that path is what repulses me.
What is really shocking today -- and I mean shocking in the sense of meaningful entertainment here, not just cranking it up -- is Adam West's Batman. That comes out of left field for people like me, who grew up in the shadow of the Watchmen and The Dark Knight Returns. To my mind, the camp wholesomeness of that show is delightfully entertaining. Yeah, it's dated but that point of view generally is what's interesting. So it's really no surprise that what got me back into comics is Grant Morrison's run on Batman because he was drawing from the Silver Age but doing stories that weren't just relics of times long past. He was doing stories for now that were inspired by something before The Dark Knight Returns and Batman Year One. It's fresh.
At the same time, Morrison's books aren't devoid of this escalation (they even sometimes get close to what I'd call flat out bad taste) and they certainly don't lack sex and violence. Just to go back to the earlier point, I'm not advocating censorship. Let's just have brutality in comic books have a meaningful purpose.
* Proof that this is complex situation: the reverse is true of the movies.
I agree about the escalation, that just seems to be the way of things. As for the correlation to declining sales I'm not so sure. Sales peaked around Spawn's heyday and that was a gratuitously violent comic. Generally, sex and violence sell, even if we've become more and more desensitized.
They ran the Adam West Batman series when I was kid; didn't like them then, still don't now. I don't begrudge anyone for enjoying it, but I just never liked the aesthetic, even as a child. In the end, though, it was still Batman and it was on TV so I watched it anyway.
I'm looking at a big list of upcoming Marvel comics and was wondering how this gets rationalised as one continuity with so many people writing it. Just using Wolverine as an example, we find the following:
Age of Ultron #6 - Wolverine goes on a quest.
Wolverine & The X-Men #27 - Wolverine continues his quest.
Wolverine #2 - Wolverine is tracking someone.
Savage Wolverine #4 - Wolverine is doing something in the Savage Lands.
Ultimate Comics Wolverine #3 - We learn about Wolverine's past (some more).
Wolverine & The X-Men #27 - Wolverine's half-brother defeats Wolverine.
Astonishing X-Men #61 - Wolverine says goodbye to someone important.
Wolverine MAX #6 - Wolverine heads to LA after doing something with Sabretooth.
Now, he can't do all of these things, and what happens in Wolverine & The X-Men #27 seems to directly impact All-New X-Men #10, Uncanny X-Men #4 and Uncanny X-Men #5.
So how do they track all of these? Let's assume that the one that says "Ultimate" is from the Ultimates universe (what do I know?) that still leaves 7 Wolvie story-lines, some of which tie into the Age of Ultron and others that... don't? Or do they?
Wolverine is the example. TVTropes even calls this "Wolverine Publicity".
The Ultimate (now Ultimate Comics) and MAX imprints are both outside of the mainstream continuity, but the others tend to just be handwaved with jokes, if mentioned at all.
There is a New character created in YJ! Not in the comics as far as I know.
Spoiler:
A Martian-Reach-Beetle. "Green Beetle". Looks pretty cool so far. Combines the powers of a Martian with Blue Beetle. Could be good. I thought it was a Green Lantern at first.
So far the second half of the season is fantastic. I'm happy with all the added characters and love when they have members of the JL show up. Especially Captain Marvel (Shazam). I love how he really wants to be a part of the YJ team. I would love it if he somehow was able to make himself look younger to become Captain Marvel Jr.!
Young Justice really is the best superhero related thing on tv since Batman TAS. I can't handle the cliffhangers. The other Team. What happend to Aqualad. It's killing me.
Anung Un Rama wrote: Young Justice really is the best superhero related thing on tv since Batman TAS. I can't handle the cliffhangers. The other Team. What happend to Aqualad. It's killing me.
Give Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes a go. The show loosely follows the Avengers comics from beginning (modernized) through the Civil War and Secret Invasion story lines, and has humor and great character interaction-it shows the stories well, but alters the story just enough so that it's original for anyone who has read all the comics. The show really plays on the correct character personalities and truly shows the Avengers as they are. I highly recommend it-I think it's nearly on par with Batman: TAS.
Oh Lord help me but I'm starting to really want to read this:
Brian Wood wrote:When I was approached for this job, I took a couple of minutes to think about what Star Wars meant to me, in order to determine if I had anything to bring to the table. I saw Star Wars in the theater; an odd decision for my mother, who tended to err on the side of caution when exposing her five-year-old to the mass media. I, of course, got a bunch of Star Wars toys, collected full sets of playing cards, and reenacted Hoth battle scenes in the snowy woods of Vermont. I was hooked, like everyone was. I realized that for the last 35 years of my life, Star Wars has been there in the background of my mind, in deep storage, waiting for something.
So I said yes to the job, thinking that if I were ever to write a Star Wars comic, this would be it, one set in the original trilogy using these characters I knew, dealing with continuity I was comfortable with, and would have the simple and iconic title of Star Wars. My original pitch document tapped into that deep storage, bringing up phrases like “the Kuat Drive Yards” and “Lancer-class frigates” and the knowledge that X-wings were built by Incom and TIEs by Sienar and that R5 astromech droids are the ones with the flowerpot heads and the bad attitudes. I didn’t know I knew all that, but I did, and I relaxed into the job.
The story I’m writing sits in the narrative space between A New Hope and The Empire Strikes Back. It actually starts days after the end of Hope, with a homeless and rather diminished Rebel fleet searching for a world upon which to establish a new base. The Empire, also wounded from Yavin, is doing whatever they can to keep the Rebels on the defensive. One Imperial officer, a new character called Bircher, seems to have a line on the Rebels’ plans and is making a habit of deploying squadrons of TIEs right where the Rebels drop out of light speed. Leia is tasked with creating a “stealth squadron” to figure out who’s selling them out to the Empire, and why.
This is a series heavy on space battles and snubfighter dogfights. A series that gets into the emotional states of our post-Tatooine, post-Alderaan, post-Yavin characters who have lost so much yet press on in their fight for freedom. Leia, especially, a very young woman with the burden of responsibility as the figurehead of the Rebellion, finds a lot of catharsis behind the stick of an X-wing.
From Yavin to Coruscant to Tatooine to Endor, from the hangars of the Devastator and the command decks of the massive Executor, this is the Star Wars I know best, the one that I’ve known for virtually my entire life. It’s a rare honor to receive a job like this, and this fan is giving it all he’s got.
Does anyone have a copy of Batman #15 they'd be willing to part with? My local shop sold my pull copy because it had apparently been 3 weeks when I told them I wasn't going to be in the store for a few weeks, and to please hold everything I'd buy it upon my return last Friday.
Sadly I missed Action Comics and Batman #15, though I'm more concerned about Bats than Super
Air time is like agricultural real estate. It's not enough that you want to spend time on the farm. It's also got to grow something. With cartoons, this means merchandising and especially toy sales. Did you ever see Ninjago? The series ran for two years ... and not because it was such a great show.
That just burns me, that they would do that. It's one of Cartoon Networks top shows but it doesn't matter because of toy sales! Sarcasm: Don't blame the boring toys, it must be the TV show.
Just heard about it hours ago and it makes me quite angry. Young Justice is brilliant and I would gladly buy it on DVD, (heck, I'd buy it on blu-ray) but it didn't get a release outside of the states.
Would I buy the toys? That really depends on the quality. There's also a really nice looking Nightwing figure from the Arkham City line.
If I had to read comics, it would be back to my back copies of the Punisher from the 80s and 90s. 
