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The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/22 06:08:18


Post by: mxwllmdr


Very Cool tiles, Dave. Me likey a lot.



BTW, I'm Sigging this:


dsteingass wrote:Vik is a Cult Leader

Viktor Von Domm wrote:Cult Leader..... Hmmmmm......


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/22 06:21:38


Post by: Hmelrose


dsteingass wrote:Oh yeah! They are just kind of expensive. Whatever you do, don't go too cheap. I have heard that the neo by Iwata is the best china knock-off airbrush out there. And you can get parts at Hobby LObby. But if you go to Michaels'- do not question getting the Badger 150, the manual sucks, but it is a great General Purpose ab. The Badger renegade Krome that I ordererd is a detail ab, meant for very small lines. This must be why airbrush holders always hold 2- I guess it is pretty common for hobbyists and pros to have two abs.

Great food, great day, great pile of goodies to show for it too.

That SHE bought me. You are the first person ever to think I'm rich Vik, but with her around, I'd definitely say I'm Richer than most guys I know


Excellent advice! I'll have to check out the badger ( http://www.badgerairbrush.com/Badger_150.asp ) at Michaels as soon as possible! I might just do some shopping around online and see what I can get cheap. I've got a big air compressor in the garage, so I think that might be too much, but we shall see! Online prices seem fairly reasonable when doing a google search for Badger 150, bout $120 or less for the kit. http://www.michaels.com/ has a 25% off coupon on their website.

Michaels just has some tutorials, no prices.. and they keep sending me to a copic airbrush page, nothing about a badger..
http://www.michaels.com/on/demandware.store/Sites-Michaels-Site/default/Search-AdvancedSearch?cgid=entire&simplesearch=Search&q=badger

http://www.michaels.com/Airbrushing/products-artsupplies-airbrushing,default,sc.html

Congrats on having someone who shares your hobbies and interests with you, that is awesome! Those pics of the GW grand opening are awesome, I'll admit to being spoiled as I've been to GW stores from Houston to Los Angeles and many game stores the world over, but they're all unique and awesome!

I can't wait to see what you do with those new models! Lots of options for converting Finecast stuff, but its all very soft plastic, so be careful!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/22 09:37:08


Post by: Viktor von Domm


capn...that isg is so priceless...and mx...i feel honored!

as for the recent work dave...that is your true modus operandi! making it like you are used to...and it already looks stunning... i saw long ago a tutorial of making such tools from scratch... guess i have to look again for these...there was even one where one made a tool for cutting 45° angles in materials so in essence doing a milling look for foamboard...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/22 11:19:43


Post by: weetyskemian44


Awww it is nice that you have a lady who shares interests with you - very important. Gotta have a partner who respects the hobby. Mine spends more on his XBox360 than I do on minis anyway

I think you are right - having a hobby is so much cheaper and more fulfilling than living the corporate sponsored dream of mortgages, yearly holidays, overpriced products etc. Live cheap and buy lead! Your minis will probably be worth more in years to come but your starbucks coffee will be long digested.

As always looking forward to seeing what you can do with your materiel's!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/22 13:17:48


Post by: Gerner


dsteingass wrote:
That SHE bought me.

You are the first person ever to think I'm rich Vik, but with her around, I'd definitely say I'm Richer than most guys I know

You are defiantly have more money than I do! I'm fething jealous! D:
So much awesomeness!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/22 13:24:38


Post by: dsteingass


I know a lot of people who have had problems with Finecast- I've already built/primed a few, and have had no problems with them so far. I got lucky I suppose.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/22 13:30:50


Post by: HAZZER


Like ths scrach building!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/22 14:24:06


Post by: Capitansolstice


dsteingass wrote:HAHA That sig cracks me up capn!

I try


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/22 14:46:51


Post by: Galorn


dsteingass wrote:Thanks man! GMTA I told you this will be cool.

I didnt feel like going to bed then, so I made the double-wide and the maximum size, quad-tile. (That is your spec. yes?)

They fit well IMHO.



Perfect.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/22 16:18:12


Post by: dsteingass


Roger, proceeding with diamond-platization and rivetization then


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/22 17:36:09


Post by: madmartykmf


RIVETED...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/22 19:04:38


Post by: dsteingass


Drain



I hope the drain mesh texture casts well


Hatch


Drain, Hatch, and plain -rivets still to come


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/22 19:11:51


Post by: HAZZER


Nice stuff! Keep it up!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/22 19:39:55


Post by: Vitruvian XVII


Dont forget to fill all the little gaps, far easier to do that for one, than for every cast

They look awesome though, really cool.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/22 20:04:14


Post by: dsteingass


Don't we want the little gaps? I've never made masters for molding before, what do you mean?


A Vent.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/22 20:09:07


Post by: Vitruvian XVII


Woops sorry maybe i didnt make myself clear.

If you were gonna do this anyway then apologies!

[Thumb - .jpg]


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/22 20:16:52


Post by: dsteingass


I was intending them to look like seperate plates actually, iEach tile will be riveted around the edge. I was contemplating using a saw to widen the 45 degree cracks uniformly.

You think I should fill them? Yes, I will def fill the diamond plate bitz tho.


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I need to know before I can go any furthur.



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/22 20:37:09


Post by: Farty Wiffmas


They're looking great dstein! They should look great when painted


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/22 20:42:42


Post by: Vitruvian XVII


Oh ok, yeah i see where you are coming from

I say keep them as is, separate looks good.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/22 21:02:14


Post by: Rawson


dsteingass wrote:


Looking great here! Sorry if this is repetitive, but I missed what these are for (I got the fact that you will be casting them, I just don't know why )


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/22 21:10:50


Post by: dsteingass


Galorn is making molds for them. Why? Well, because I can

Galorn gets to use the casts commercially, and I get free molds for my madness.

Wow, the liquid green stuff really works well!




The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/22 21:12:59


Post by: Viktor von Domm


very, very good work mate... that will be a new area...fisrt there was hirst arts... now will be daves munda casts...if you stay around 15- 20 bucks ...then you will be a rich man!!!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/22 21:20:33


Post by: dsteingass


HAHAHA THanks Vik! But I'm just the design studio, Galorn is the production manager. I'm anxious to get his mold in the mail and cast some up! He builds them with the best stuff there is for mold-making.


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FRESH Rivets....



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/22 22:12:49


Post by: mxwllmdr


Galorn is very good. You have an amazing eye for what looks good, though, too Dave. I really like the snap fitting that you are using for a hatch spinner. Is there a brand name for that?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/22 22:18:21


Post by: dsteingass


THanks Max, I don't think there is a brand, it's just a sprue of them I found in the sewing section of Wal-Mart many moons ago. THe metal snaps look better, but they would cause an undercut and that's not easy to cast.


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Here, I thought that this little triangle piece could be a useful addition to the set.



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Yep, the more I look at the versatility here, the more I like it. Simply casting each of these tiles twice, gives a lot of possibilities.




The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 02:23:49


Post by: mxwllmdr


Dave, one of your shots of the Marauder made the Dakka front page a few days ago.

How do you get your stuff to show up there?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 02:25:08


Post by: dsteingass


Oh really? I have no idea


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I know my blog only shows up there if I host a pic on the gallery- they won't put most of mine up b/c I use Photobucket.

See, this one is hosted in the Gallery


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 02:36:56


Post by: Galorn


They Look AMAZING. They should mold/cast up no problem too the only one Im a little worried about is the drain. It should be fine tho, especially as it looks like you "sealed" it with liquid GS.

Nice.


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Viktor von Domm wrote:very, very good work mate... that will be a new area...fisrt there was hirst arts... now will be daves munda casts...if you stay around 15- 20 bucks ...then you will be a rich man!!!


Hmm not a bad idea... I'd be up for it. Dave you?

dsteingass wrote:HAHAHA THanks Vik! But I'm just the design studio, Galorn is the production manager. I'm anxious to get his mold in the mail and cast some up! He builds them with the best stuff there is for mold-making.


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FRESH Rivets....



Nice.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 02:53:28


Post by: dsteingass


Of course! Can you make that many molds?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 02:54:48


Post by: Galorn


dsteingass wrote:Of course! Can you make that many molds?


Easily.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 02:59:51


Post by: mxwllmdr


I would buy some.....


If I built Necro Terrain. I could possibly use some on the table I am starting in April.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 03:15:41


Post by: dsteingass


The idea is they are generic enough of multiple applications


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 03:29:41


Post by: Galorn


dsteingass wrote:The idea is they are generic enough of multiple applications


Yep.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 03:42:51


Post by: dsteingass


Whoa! Giants vs. Patriots AGAIN at the super bowl!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 03:49:42


Post by: mxwllmdr


Yeaah, how about them Ravens, Huh? 'CHOKE' 'COUGH'




What?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 03:55:05


Post by: dsteingass


Go Giants!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 05:24:58


Post by: mxwllmdr


I know it's your thread, Dave, but seriously? The Giants? Really?



Wow. I must do this at the risk of being unfriended on the Dakka's:



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 06:09:48


Post by: Rogue Wolves


hahaha nice one capn! and dave those tiles are looking mighty fine so far



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dsteingass wrote:Whoa! Giants vs. Patriots AGAIN at the super bowl!


aint that some well those giants wont be in the bowl and be cheat agains by the pats! (eagles had that)


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mxwllmdr wrote:I know it's your thread, Dave, but seriously? The Giants? Really?



Wow. I must do this at the risk of being unfriended on the Dakka's:



i have a nother picture in mind buuut since they dont have an ork with a sensered fingure i cannot..


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 09:39:29


Post by: Viktor von Domm


dave... about that new triangle piece... that is a wonderful addition... but if this ever hits a moldmaking process...i have a very stong suggestion to make... as a kind of future customer... you should at least put four of these triangled pieces in one mold...because for a structure i can see that being very useful...four would reduce the time to cast and would not overproduce stuff you might not need... or possibly one seperate mold for these even... i think there is nothing more frustrating to cast four times one piece and lots of others if you are specifically looking for to make only this... did i made myself clear?

and galrorn... that sounds very good you beeing interested in the moldmaking... i think this is something that needs expierience and then you could really all fly with the stuff!


(and i keep my gob shut for the current football discussion... i only now the basic shape of that ball, after that every thing becomes hazy...^^)


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 09:49:04


Post by: Hmelrose


At first I was:

Then I was:

And now, I'm all:

Get to work already! I like all the options presented, but second the idea of multi purpose/ multi tile molds, but also know that if you make it, then I'd be interested in it!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 11:39:59


Post by: dsteingass


Thanks guys! but My GF is from New Jersey, and huge Giants fan..nuff said?
I was born and raised a Cleveland Browns fan and I disowned them a few years ago, I'm more of a College FB fan.
So you can stick your Ravens you know where LOL

Good idea Vik, but That is the thing with the Hirst molds, you have to buy the basic tile mold, then have to buy another mold for the accessory or odd bits.



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 12:22:49


Post by: mxwllmdr


My wife is an Irish Italian, Roman Catholic from Brooklyn.


We hate the Giants......


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 12:56:08


Post by: M0rdain


Everything should undergo rivetization


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 13:24:10


Post by: nereus2


WOW! a-ma-zing!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 14:10:27


Post by: MauS


Say, would Galorn be at all interested in a couple of torsos to make molds of? I'm thinking beerbelly amongst others, but I can easily build a few more. Maybe even produce a kind of Munda goodies set? Some torsos, weapons, terrain...

Anyways, looking good on the flooring there Dave!

I think that Patriots flag would look good on a SM shoulderpad... Patriots chapter anyone



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 15:26:52


Post by: Galorn


MauS wrote:Say, would Galorn be at all interested in a couple of torsos to make molds of? I'm thinking beerbelly amongst others, but I can easily build a few more. Maybe even produce a kind of Munda goodies set? Some torsos, weapons, terrain...

Anyways, looking good on the flooring there Dave!

I think that Patriots flag would look good on a SM shoulderpad... Patriots chapter anyone



Interested yes... I'd give it a shot making the torso mold.


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mxwllmdr wrote:I know it's your thread, Dave, but seriously? The Giants? Really?



Wow. I must do this at the risk of being unfriended on the Dakka's:




Ironically I have a friend near by named "Dave" and also from NJ, who is a rabid Giants fan.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 15:30:18


Post by: mxwllmdr


I think Galorn needs to do a VERY detailed utorial on mold making. I have tried to learn this in the past and there is something that I am missing....


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 15:38:48


Post by: dsteingass


Thanks Nereus2! New user? Just quit lurking? WELCOME!

Yeah, from what I've read, making a 2-part mold is a lot more difficult than a 1-part mold. This will be a learning experience for me. I am anxious to cast my own creations mostly to see the little nuances that I need to think about when making the next masters. You have to keep the molding process in mind when making the masters, it's a different thought process, but I like that kind of cause/effect thinking personally.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 16:32:25


Post by: Viktor von Domm


today i had some chocolate mold (don´t laugh) in my hands... they had a very cobblestone feel to them... if i am not mistaken then this mold making process is in essence like making new molds for "chocolate bars"...or am i wrong here?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 16:37:58


Post by: Galorn


Viktor von Domm wrote:today i had some chocolate mold (don´t laugh) in my hands... they had a very cobblestone feel to them... if i am not mistaken then this mold making process is in essence like making new molds for "chocolate bars"...or am i wrong here?


pretty much yep.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 16:40:38


Post by: dsteingass


Pretty much the same thing Vik. It is just that usually a silicone or RTV mold allows you to cast finer details and is flexible for removing the casts. The vacu-formed plastic for chocolate molds works the same way, except if you flex the vacu-formed plastic to remove your chocoalte, you buckle and dent your mold. But yes, it is the same concept, pouring into a one-sided mold, gravity makes one side of the mold flat where the liquid levels off.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 17:41:25


Post by: HAZZER


Rivets are the only way to heaven!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 17:58:12


Post by: theunicorn


mxwllmdr wrote:I think Galorn needs to do a VERY detailed utorial on mold making. I have tried to learn this in the past and there is something that I am missing....

Check the blog in my sig. I have 3 tutorials about mold making and casting


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 18:41:11


Post by: mxwllmdr


Funny but sigs aren't showing up on my pages lately.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 19:12:08


Post by: Galorn


http://warfrog.blogspot.com/2011/11/two-part-mold-making-tutorial-resin.html Link to the relevant tutorial.

Thats actually pretty close to what I do (Legos, and all)


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 20:36:04


Post by: Viktor von Domm


actually the chocolate molds were siliconebased ones... i think i will get me the last one ...could be fun to join the recent casting situation...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 20:39:11


Post by: mxwllmdr


Yeah, I want to do silicone casting. Full molds of 3 dimensional pieces. I have so many ideas for things that I wanna do......


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 20:48:03


Post by: dsteingass


Max- are you using one of the new dumbass themes for Dakka that move crap around? Change it to classic.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 20:54:10


Post by: Viktor von Domm


actually i use the new theme and never had any probs... tho sometimes i accidentially hit the tab and i start scrolling through the themes...then i am confused... but after realizing my error everything is good again...^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 20:57:39


Post by: Vitruvian XVII


Yeah new theme for me too. Took a day to get used to but it definitely improves the site imho.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 20:58:38


Post by: mxwllmdr


I changed it. Seems to be working for me.....


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 21:02:33


Post by: dsteingass


Bah! I can find everything just fine with the classic theme! New-fangled nonsense!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 21:04:20


Post by: Vitruvian XVII


Get with the times old man...!

(obviously joking, have no idea of your age )


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 21:07:10


Post by: mxwllmdr


No, you were right, old man was accurate.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 21:21:04


Post by: Viktor von Domm


there are good things and bad ones... but since about half a year dakka is on my favorite list i can always jump again to a new subed list and this is always fresh then... for some reason tho, when i surf on my wifes laptop on dakka, dakka always throws me out... cookies and everything are allowed and i stay on as this i put after logging in in... but it seems that the explorer does some weird stuff to dakka...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 21:29:20


Post by: dsteingass


HAHA I'm 34


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 21:29:37


Post by: dangledorf2.0


This is the single greatest terrain blog on the internet...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 21:32:56


Post by: Viktor von Domm


well... never met som many middleaged farts and so many near bald ones too as here on dakka^^ gives me a warm feeling all over^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 21:36:30


Post by: Baiyuan


For the record, I'd buy a mold too. The more diversity we can add to our terrain project, the better.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 21:38:11


Post by: dsteingass


Thanks dangledorf! Just registered eh? WELCOME!

You might be going a little to far there with the compliment, but I really do appreciate it man!

I will never be old as long as I never quit playing with toys.

Thanks Baiyuan!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 21:40:23


Post by: Vitruvian XVII


dsteingass wrote:I will never be old as long as I never quit playing with toys!


Keep telling yourself that, maybe it'll come true..


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 21:47:40


Post by: dsteingass


I refuse


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 21:52:23


Post by: theunicorn


Never too old for good toys. I'll be 36 this year and the wife and I have about 1000 sqft basement dedicated to our geekdom. Speaking of which I am in Atlanta for business this week a quick google search says that not only is my favorite silicon and resin supplier here yay no shipping but also a lego store and tower games. It's gonna be a good trip.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 21:59:24


Post by: Capitansolstice


Hahahahaha^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 22:01:41


Post by: mxwllmdr


Hey get me something while your there, Uni.....


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 22:05:22


Post by: dsteingass


I have branched out to the Eurobricks forums with a quick review of my ill-gotten new LEGO TIE Fighter if anyone is interested.
http://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=65230&st=15


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 22:16:00


Post by: Capitansolstice


dsteingass wrote:I have branched out to the Eurobricks forums with a quick review of my ill-gotten new LEGO TIE Fighter if anyone is interested.
http://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=65230&st=15

coolio!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 22:17:54


Post by: Viktor von Domm


well^^ steiney LOL.... but a nice catch there... and for such a model quite the big crew too...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 22:20:43


Post by: dsteingass


I know! The 4 minifigs are rare for sets that size. LEGO will realize that people will gladly pay their price for such extras.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 22:27:54


Post by: Viktor von Domm


for me all kits had way too few minis anyway.... as i am after i built a kit makeing up new models form the big boxes i have i always like to actually play stories...battles and such things with the minis... and for these you had to have more than a few minis...

best thing currently... my oldest son begun to sort every mini... he has now three sorting boxes worth of torso, legs heads, hats and equip... and he combines these with such a nice creativity... they don´t look like accidents... more of a cool new schemes that are totally convincing... maybe i take some pics tomorrow...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 22:29:22


Post by: dsteingass


Ahh a little Vik Von Jr. converter there! He has the bug!! woot!
Tomorrow, help him start his own blog!! I'll subb


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 22:30:52


Post by: Viktor von Domm


i think he would like that... i have a lil parental talk with him on that matter^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 23:17:18


Post by: dsteingass


Raise that boy right


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/23 23:34:35


Post by: Viktor von Domm


it is my utmost goal


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/24 00:19:48


Post by: dsteingass



.....The sounds of tumblerivets in the wind


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/24 00:35:53


Post by: MauS


That desk is WAAAAAAYYYYYY too clean!!!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/24 01:02:17


Post by: Viktor von Domm


ohoh... a clean desk...that can only show us one meaning.... a new project is emerging.... wonder what that might be...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/24 01:08:49


Post by: dsteingass


I'm not sure. I am directionless atm.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/24 01:19:19


Post by: Viktor von Domm


what about my loot suggestion??? the safe? or you could get into weapon production again... you could dream up a nice tesla weapon or better still a steampunk flamer... now that is something i need later on^^ as for the tesla gun, would love to see a conversion of a lasgun to tesla...that would make my guardsmen way more steampunkier...heck i could declare those then as stormtroopers... tesla=hotshot lasgun


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/24 01:22:45


Post by: dsteingass


I will dwell on this. I am watching a show about how they are Blasting a new subway tunnel under NYC without anyone above feeling it.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/24 01:23:14


Post by: Rogue Wolves


heeeey what a good topic to force you to do your necrotunnels!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/24 01:28:15


Post by: Viktor von Domm


hmmm.... actually that might bring me into a split... wanna see you make tunnels... but also wanna see you make me pwetty guns....argh...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/24 01:29:27


Post by: mxwllmdr


I've seen that, it's really good....


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/24 01:32:31


Post by: Viktor von Domm


at dave...what do you think about this device:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MATCHSTICK-CUTTER-TWEEZERS-/190589749565?pt=UK_ToysGames_ModelKits_ModelKits_JN&hash=item2c6008c93d

do you recon it is worth a try? it is a fourth of the micro thingy...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/24 01:42:56


Post by: Rogue Wolves


o that look like a cool tool.. if you buy one i'll have to see how it works


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/24 01:44:50


Post by: MauS


How bout some tunnels with tesla turrets made of lasguns?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/24 01:46:09


Post by: Rogue Wolves


hey! i made it into a sig nice job rogue you the man!


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and now i siged myself!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/24 01:48:26


Post by: dsteingass


Well, for small stuff sure I guess. Do you think it looks kind of cheapish though?


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HAHAHA Rogue! LOL


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/24 01:50:53


Post by: Viktor von Domm


*makes a face...* yeah... kinda not really sturdy...

but came up with a new tool...how about that one?

http://www.ebay.de/itm/260904263416?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

i fear the micromakr one will kill me postage wise...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/24 01:54:52


Post by: dsteingass


That is kind of like my red foamboard cutter, great for big stuff. WHat about a simple mitre box? I use mine quite a bit. If you already have a saw, the box alone is $10
http://www.micromark.com/miter-box-and-saw-set,6751.html
or ebay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Excel-Modelers-Aluminum-Mitre-Box-w-K5-Razor-Saw-55666-/380352263774?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item588ec2f65e


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/24 01:59:32


Post by: Viktor von Domm


oh i own that one too... exactly the same one... but i am not that fond of it... i have even a vice for it to sit secure while sawing... but it is not the very best miterbox... but these can be baught quite cheap... the long cuts for PC are what makes me think...these and the angled cuts...


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i also have these rulers with the rolling blades... and a cutter for paper even... those guillotine like ones... in fact quite similar to the micromark suggestion of yours... but it is rather unprecise and not really something to cut PC with...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/24 02:09:49


Post by: dsteingass


Do you have a steel ruler with cork on the back? THat is my go-to for making long cuts with a regular knife.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/24 02:12:20


Post by: Rogue Wolves


^ i lost mine and im angry about that cause that thing was the best


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/24 02:12:37


Post by: Viktor von Domm


i onw one with a sort of rubbery underside to avoid too much sliding...... i have in fact quite a big range of tools... it sometimes lacks the talent to use them^^


anyway... bedtime ahead...in fact 3 hors overtime already... ouch this will be a short one...^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/24 02:13:28


Post by: dsteingass


I am thinking of more masters for casting..>What architectural elements would I want an endless supply of for terrain-making?

Buttresses, small or large, flying buttresses.
I was flipping through the Inquisitor rulebook on the throne and got some ideas for buttresses.

For tunnels, I would want steel pipe rings with rivets

What else....?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/24 02:14:22


Post by: Rogue Wolves


nighty night vik


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hmmm latters and doors are always usefull, although have fun casting a latter


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/24 02:17:03


Post by: dsteingass


Maybe in resin, ladders would work.. but this dental plater/permastone stuff needs to be about 1/4" thick to be sturdy enough for play methinks.


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Vik has the right idea, i'm off to bed too, long-ass monday it was.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/24 03:18:46


Post by: Galorn


dsteingass wrote:
.....The sounds of tumblerivets in the wind


That explains the PM... Heh

MauS wrote:That desk is WAAAAAAYYYYYY too clean!!!


I'm so jealous of that...

Viktor von Domm wrote:ohoh... a clean desk...that can only show us one meaning.... a new project is emerging.... wonder what that might be...


It probably involves rivets riveting rivets made of rivets... Or more burly junglemen.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/24 03:32:43


Post by: mxwllmdr


I would think that stairs are something you could do modular and make good use of in mass.


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Saw this on the main page. thought you'd like it....

http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/260126-Cars%2C%20Genestealer%20Cult%2C%20Limo%2C%20Limousine.html


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/24 08:19:29


Post by: Viktor von Domm


lol...that bus...^^

stairs...tricky but oh so needed... if done right they could be such a nice terrain piece... making a like...four steps modular staircase... that would be cool... that way you had the freedom to make long or short stairs... the whole base size issue is the only thing that makes it not so easy... after all a termy should be able to climb.... but then again...why should a metal monster like a terminator be able to climbe mere stairs for only frail humans...??^^

It probably involves rivets riveting rivets made of rivets...
lol... do i smell a believer here?^^

buttresses sounds a good idea dave...
same goes for smaller fence like walls...or for that matter fences... what about lamps?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/24 12:23:02


Post by: MauS


I'd like to see:

Arches, arched windows, vents, gratings, pillars, riveted support beams, etc...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/24 12:42:31


Post by: M0rdain


If i knew what a "Balsaleistenschneider" was i might comment but my German sucks, infact so does my French and Spanish. I barely get by with English lol.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/24 12:45:30


Post by: MauS


It cuts balsa strips


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/24 13:24:02


Post by: dsteingass


Good stuff hmel! I've seen a lot of those already. As for the pipes, they are some great ideas, and they are flat on the bottom, that means a single-sided mold was used.
However, it IS already done. Do I want to redo something that is already commercially available?

Maus- good stuff, especially the riveted beams- could match the buttresses architecturally??


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/24 13:50:39


Post by: Galorn


dsteingass wrote:Good stuff hmel! I've seen a lot of those already. As for the pipes, they are some great ideas, and they are flat on the bottom, that means a single-sided mold was used.
However, it IS already done. Do I want to redo something that is already commercially available?

Maus- good stuff, especially the riveted beams- could match the buttresses architecturally??


those pipes are Hirst arts castings (I have the mold) one of the problems I've encountered with them is unless they're resin cast I guess the flat "support beam" portion and the pipe flanges chip and or trap bubbles like a bastard.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/24 13:53:17


Post by: dsteingass


Are you allowed to sell Hirst casts as your own like the ebay person is?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/24 13:55:19


Post by: Galorn


dsteingass wrote:Are you allowed to sell Hirst casts as your own like the ebay person is?

If you have a license to do so from Bruce Hirst yes. Or you sell less than 1000$ a year, and do not represent yourself to be a biz.

Quoted from the Ebay listing
"We are officially licensed by Hirst Arts Fantasy Architecture"

"All images are property of Showcase Terrain or used with permission"


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/24 14:08:01


Post by: dsteingass


Bah, that's too unoriginal for my personal tastes


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/24 14:28:18


Post by: Hmelrose


dsteingass wrote:Bah, that's too unoriginal for my personal tastes


Haha, I tried!

Are we talking just imperial city / necromunda style terrain? You could do Chapter specific wall tiles which could double as vehicle upgrade/symbol pieces.

I suggest you start with Space wolves and make me a space wolf terrain piece, i.e. The Fang or Some Wolf Icon walls, this would be easy to do for each of the Chapters.

Or if you're just doing variations on floor tiles, how about some unique bases? You could do SW bases with raised wolf heads on them..lol, then I could paint it and dust it with snow after I mount the mini.

Wings, unique backpacks, weapons, wheels to turn a rhino into a wheeled vehicle, ones that would fit into the same area the tracks do, but don't raise the profile of the rhino too much. New turret systems or pillar mounts for unused turrets similar to the imperial guard heavy bolter turret or the aegis defense system.

But seriously. We're talking buildings, cross braces, pillars/supports, ladders, a slide, girders, beams, supports, a trash pile, a loot pile...etc..

Lots to think about!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/24 14:45:22


Post by: dsteingass


Perhaps...Although there seem to be many companies already doing chapter-specific aftermarket SM stuff, in addition to the already excellent FW stuff. Also, I am not personally interested in Marine stuff, so my motivation isn't really there. I'm more interested in creating a quasi-generic set of sci-fi terrain elements that can be infinitely arranged and adapted to any background. Once you plop a Space Wolf icon on a wall, then your market for potential buyers is instantly limited IMHO. Some of the Hirst stuff is too generic IMHO as well, or at least lacking in rivets, which we have scientifically proven here that rivets make everything better

Girders are on my mind heavily, since girder-shaped plastic is relatively expensive and not always readily available to people who want it. So you say "just rivet up some plastic I-beam and have it molded!" - well, that presents problems with the mold-making process. A one-part mold would necessitate one side being flat. To get it right, and deal with the undercuts it would need to be a 2-part mold. Anything thinner than 1/4" will be hard to cast in the currently available materials I have (permastone), however the beauty of a RTV mold is that you can also use resin in the same mold, which will have higher tensile strength and allow finer details to not only be cast, but have greater strength. It's a learning process, but one that forces me to think in new ways when thinking about design.

The diamond-plate floor tiles are a good start, depending on how the mold comes out will determine the next step in that series of architectural elements. I expect there to be nuances that I do not yet understand, but I am anxious to learn from them.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/24 14:58:59


Post by: Hmelrose


Bridges, suspension bridges, girdered bridges, elevated terrain platformed pieces...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/24 15:14:59


Post by: dsteingass


Now you're thinking!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/24 15:23:09


Post by: M0rdain


Oo yeah a nice riveted iron bridge would be cool.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/24 15:38:53


Post by: mxwllmdr


I gotta say, though, I buy from Evergreen Scale Models and i don't find the economy packs of their tubing and rod and Ibeams to be that expensive. check out the link.


I-Beams and H-beams


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Although, I find the idea of modular terrain to be very intriguingly fun and cool. Like Space hulk on a different scale and with a different atmosphere......


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/24 18:24:34


Post by: Galorn


Hmelrose wrote:
dsteingass wrote:Bah, that's too unoriginal for my personal tastes


Haha, I tried!

Are we talking just imperial city / necromunda style terrain? You could do Chapter specific wall tiles which could double as vehicle upgrade/symbol pieces.

I suggest you start with Space wolves and make me a space wolf terrain piece, i.e. The Fang or Some Wolf Icon walls, this would be easy to do for each of the Chapters.

Or if you're just doing variations on floor tiles, how about some unique bases? You could do SW bases with raised wolf heads on them..lol, then I could paint it and dust it with snow after I mount the mini.

Wings, unique backpacks, weapons, wheels to turn a rhino into a wheeled vehicle, ones that would fit into the same area the tracks do, but don't raise the profile of the rhino too much. New turret systems or pillar mounts for unused turrets similar to the imperial guard heavy bolter turret or the aegis defense system.

But seriously. We're talking buildings, cross braces, pillars/supports, ladders, a slide, girders, beams, supports, a trash pile, a loot pile...etc..

Lots to think about!


The chapter specific iconography would be a MAJOR no no as a commercial enterprise (at least until we see how the GW lawsuit Vs Chapterhouse shakes out). Sundry objective markers tho... possible. Structures similar to what elevated highways are held up by (jersey barriers, and suchlike) would also be a possibility.



mxwllmdr wrote:I gotta say, though, I buy from Evergreen Scale Models and i don't find the economy packs of their tubing and rod and Ibeams to be that expensive. check out the link.


I-Beams and H-beams


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Although, I find the idea of modular terrain to be very intriguingly fun and cool. Like Space hulk on a different scale and with a different atmosphere......


sure is


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/25 01:22:00


Post by: Rogue Wolves


hey, on redoing things already made.. i dont know about you, but if i can buy all my terrain needs from one place.. then i would be happier and i would spend more money! although im sure you can make some serious bank by doing your bulkheads (i know i'd buy some) since it is harder to come by nowadays (at least for me)


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/25 01:46:34


Post by: dangledorf2.0


It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...

I also agree with the statement that our table is too clean, it must be a murderous plot...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/25 02:18:46


Post by: dsteingass


dangledorf2.0 wrote:It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...

LMAO HAHAHAHA! LMFAO!

I am TOTALLLY sigging that!


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Buttresses?



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/25 02:27:42


Post by: Rogue Wolves


ha, i remember a long long time ago, when i was back in junior high, in european history, and we where learning about the architecture of notre dame, some kid looked at that word and pronounced it butt reasses.. ahhh those where the days, oh and if you dont sig that, than i dont know what could be more perfect!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/25 02:32:08


Post by: dsteingass


HAHAHA - I still giggle like i'm 12


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/25 02:34:12


Post by: Rogue Wolves


hmm, that seems about a year or 2 off of when that was.... any ways
i do like your butt reasses though, i think they have the proper feeling to be able to put them on a normal building, and not just a chapel (as shown in your pic)


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btw, i completely forgot who gave you that mold for your buildings.. because i want to see if i can buy one off of him


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/25 02:38:50


Post by: dsteingass


Galorn, and thanks man!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/25 03:02:05


Post by: Rogue Wolves


danke sir dave! and fyi i hope the giants lose!(and i hope that the patriots lose too) although for the sake of the plasticard... i will have to say good luck.. although having wes and gonkowski on my fantasy team sure helped out


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/25 03:34:27


Post by: Galorn


dsteingass wrote:Galorn, and thanks man!


Eh must have missed something... You're welcome.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/25 03:54:40


Post by: Rogue Wolves


hehe.. he was thanking me for the comment, and reminding me of your name!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/25 05:33:31


Post by: Galorn


Rogue Wolves wrote:hehe.. he was thanking me for the comment, and reminding me of your name!


See I knew I had missed something. He is still welcome (for helping me out by making a master that I can use in commercial endeavors) and you are awesome for pointing out what I missed. So Thanks. (I'm serious BTW not sarcastic, at least not in this comment anyway)


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/25 05:43:59


Post by: Rogue Wolves


dont worry, the way it is typed it dosent apear to be


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/25 05:57:50


Post by: Galorn


Rogue Wolves wrote:dont worry, the way it is typed it dosent apear to be


Good. I'm somewhat over tired... (been up since 8:00 am.. crap its now 12:51 am here time to go thud)


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/25 05:59:34


Post by: mxwllmdr


Yeah, it's midnight here. Better hit the hay....




soon.....



Good night.....


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/25 06:02:39


Post by: Rogue Wolves


pff lucky.. i'd rather be back on the ol' east coast.. although being here in la area has helped with jobs, so far i got to work on all of those tennis open comercials (us,french,aussie,wimboldton)


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/25 09:12:41


Post by: neil101


Aye up dst , lots of cool stuff happening in this ere part of town.
Nice work on the custom tiles and on the mold stuff, but especially on the snack machine , that is great man , weathering is really good.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/25 11:36:53


Post by: dsteingass


Thanks Neil! I'm always appreciative that you stop by!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/25 21:46:01


Post by: Viktor von Domm


at galorn... just looked up your sig...love that quote! i knew it before but is now my second faored latin quote... my favorite will for ever be: "quis custodiet ipsos custodes" who watches the watchmen...


the butresses look good tho not on that buildings segments... needs a totally differnt setting... arched windows and such things... also...goes without saying...: rivtes^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/25 22:21:23


Post by: dsteingass


Viktor von Domm wrote:
the butresses look good tho not on that buildings segments... needs a totally differnt setting... arched windows and such things... also...goes without saying...: rivtes^^


Really? hmmmm. that is not what I wanted to hear..

/scratches stubble more


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/25 22:25:45


Post by: Viktor von Domm


well... the shape of those walls remind me more of the poor made sector of my city.... this quick built massbuildings...










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and on these butresses would look like a banana on a bike.... totally cool all for them selves but not in combination...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/25 22:27:37


Post by: dsteingass


I intend the edge of the buttresses to be metal plate sections with rivets. Like in the Studio Terrain in the Inquisitor rulebook


...But now I see...it's the window shape...hmmmm


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Are they playing Tetris with those apartments?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/25 22:30:32


Post by: Viktor von Domm


oh i see....hmmm... that changes a bit my thoughts... i thought for now that you wanted to go for a more bicked up butress look.... now with the steely and riveted look.... your idea is redeemed^^


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actually it is a shopped pic i guess.... but in essence tat is how they built those crappy houses...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/25 22:33:03


Post by: dsteingass


Well, no...you are right, Galorn designed these to be ruins with a more generic look, less grimdark. These walls are perfect for 28mm Stalingrad ruins through modern era, and even into any sci-fi table.

I must modify the windows! It is my duty!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/25 22:36:09


Post by: Viktor von Domm


oh please do that.... if you could...:








that would add so much soul to the wallsections^^


but i guess that is more victorian than grim dark gothic...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/25 22:37:39


Post by: dsteingass


Ok, not pointed gothic arches? Rounder ones?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/25 22:43:12


Post by: Viktor von Domm


well.... i have to jump over my own shadow here now... for the need of your terrain...gothic... my own tastes and preferrences would be more victorian...and i don´t see a possible middle gear here^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/25 22:46:54


Post by: dsteingass


It doesn't have to be all grimdark, Industrial is pretty universal architecture style that is easily imagined too. ALthough I have to admit, Victorian Industrial has a lot of red brick, pig iron, and rivets, which are super cool IMHO


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/25 23:06:39


Post by: Viktor von Domm


hmmm... music in my ears^^ yeah...i grew up in such a part of my hometown... alll victorian /jugendstil buildings... i really loved the brickwork look....red bricks...brass and rivets and good and well treated wood.... that is such a fine look!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/25 23:10:47


Post by: mxwllmdr


I like the second one for like a high ranking persons office window.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/25 23:26:24


Post by: dsteingass


Proper pointed arches are tough to draw, but easy to cut.....

Rounded arches are easy to draw, hard to cut....

Regardless, any greeblies can be added to make the window casing look more 3D or however I want...

Perhaps I should just start a new wall master?



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/25 23:28:15


Post by: Viktor von Domm


hmmm... yes?^^ (for the new master...)

i´d go for the pointy ones.... there must be a guidance or a tut how to draw these...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/25 23:29:13


Post by: dsteingass


Yeah, but it's still tricky, it's getting three circles intersecting at the right points.

I have cut..many


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/25 23:37:48


Post by: Viktor von Domm


yup.... i tried that too... for the big red tank i tried to come up with something like that.... maybe some shaperulers/stencil could help?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/25 23:56:05


Post by: monkeytroll


dsteingass wrote:Ok, not pointed gothic arches? Rounder ones?


No, I think you missed his point Dave.

Viktor von Domm wrote:oh please do that.... if you could...:




Vik's after a window with a cat

Not enough cats keeping an eye on the human experiment in the 41st millenium...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/25 23:57:22


Post by: dsteingass


Hmm..I will remember this..I have a metal cat mini, I think..somewhere, from one of the Reaper familiar packs.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/26 00:08:46


Post by: Viktor von Domm


well.... monkey...being that thoughtful and expeirienced guy that he usually is... he got it up all wrong this time... i am not and never was and probably never will be a cat man... cats you can safely stick up your jumper for all that i care....sorry mates... but cats are no animals i want in my flat anymore... however tiny they might be....


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/26 00:15:59


Post by: monkeytroll


Not even if they're this tiny?

Hmm, seems it was a link to flickr, they don't do image links I've discovered.

Oh well, ignore this post, pretend it's a crazy cat lady



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/26 00:18:42


Post by: Viktor von Domm


that one is way too tiny...it is not to be seen at all behind? under? the big red cross...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/26 00:27:10


Post by: monkeytroll


Hmm, it looked alright when I tried the preview...


I'll try again.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/26 00:30:24


Post by: dangledorf2.0


I always imagined that the Habs were just huge apartment buildings made from pre-fab building materials. I think the gothic arches would look out of place in combination with the industrial towers you already made.

Besides, why go through all the trouble to do all that brick/stone work when those damn kids are just gunna shoot up and spraypaint over it...

... sounds like a rocking piece accually...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/26 00:32:02


Post by: dsteingass


Hmmm...good point dangledorf.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/26 00:32:09


Post by: Rogue Wolves


maybie.. just maybie.. you could buy a cat from a shelter and make a mini table (munda buildings) to put on its back, and head, and tail....


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/26 00:33:10


Post by: dsteingass


HAHA No CATS for me either


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/26 00:33:46


Post by: monkeytroll


Fully mobile feline terrain.


It's the future.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/26 00:35:33


Post by: dsteingass


The first time a cat would get hair in my wet paint, or knock over my miniatures, I'd be teaching it how to fly! NOO- I like dogs, they stay down.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/26 00:36:09


Post by: Rogue Wolves


i already have my patton in it! daaaave get to the designing, without you knowing i signed your name on a document saying you would be the one to build it!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/26 00:37:24


Post by: dangledorf2.0


Mmmm... Giant cats, covered in buildings, that are filled with people?




That might be one of the coolest things i've ever heard!!!



AND IT FLIES!?!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/26 00:37:46


Post by: dsteingass


There is the small matter of your downpayment to settle before I can begin production I'm afraid sir.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/26 00:39:47


Post by: Rogue Wolves


aannd.. BAM heres where the movie begins... now we will skip ahead to where i kidnap your precious plasticard, and those awsome brass clamps. now either you make the terrain or we replay the whole Taken movie.. but let me warn you, you are definatly not QuiGon......


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/26 00:45:39


Post by: Rogue Wolves


^my pont exactly!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/26 02:01:14


Post by: dsteingass


I am well-prepared to defend my styrene stash, Bring it!
/racks shotgun


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/26 02:55:09


Post by: shasolenzabi


dsteingass wrote:I am well-prepared to defend my styrene stash, Bring it!
/racks shotgun


Best get the gates ready and check the parapets Dave! protect that stash! No matter how many times they may tell you to "walk away"




or




Of course that will be to just get you where you would be easy pickin's and take your stash! Man the cannons!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/26 03:57:35


Post by: Rogue Wolves


i forgot to mention, that i have an army of katkommandos.. who are immune to shotgun blasts!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/26 04:04:35


Post by: Capitansolstice


I think whatever happens it will be great
As usual


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/26 04:18:01


Post by: mxwllmdr


Wow, go hard to work on a model and I miss a mega wierd convo. I need to keep the phone charged more often......


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/26 10:19:20


Post by: lone dirty dog


What the hell is all this cat stuff

I know have been ill but what the hell I return and GIANT cat walking buildings ……… I am going back to bed I think I am delusional


This is Dakka Dakka isn't it


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/26 11:10:13


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The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/26 11:31:10


Post by: lone dirty dog


Going back to building the moulds could you not produce separate window moulds to fit the space with alternative design's allowing for a more generic building mould to be produced, then varying styles or period window tiles could be added after.

Just a thought ……… also you could produce a mould of window decor so you can add over the top of the first mould to give depth and design variation.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/26 11:57:50


Post by: mxwllmdr


Well, I am not sorry to be nearly finished with the khorne warhound, but I am sorry it caused me to miss this conversation.....


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/26 13:32:07


Post by: Viktor von Domm


i like LDD ´s idea to make seperate "inlets" for the window frames... might be tricky to make them fit properly but that would be a most unique idea and would give plenty of variation ideas.... one mold for the basic wallshape...and then additional ones for different settings to match different building ideas...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/26 14:10:22


Post by: dsteingass


I think it would be much easier to just make a whole new wall master than to get casted window inserts to fit properly. It would probably take the same amount of RTV to make the mold for the inserts as it would to just mold a new wall master. I dunno. Galorn? your opinion please?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/26 14:32:10


Post by: Viktor von Domm


sounds convinicing to me too...but what do i know of such dark arts?^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/26 14:32:58


Post by: dsteingass


Hell, I don't know much either, it's all a learning process.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/26 14:34:59


Post by: Viktor von Domm


which we hope to learn form^^

cheers...vik...till later^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/26 15:01:27


Post by: mxwllmdr


Yep, looking forward to getting into the molding thing. So many ideas...... So little time......


Can't wait to see what you come up with...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/26 15:18:40


Post by: Galorn


dsteingass wrote:I think it would be much easier to just make a whole new wall master than to get casted window inserts to fit properly. It would probably take the same amount of RTV to make the mold for the inserts as it would to just mold a new wall master. I dunno. Galorn? your opinion please?


Similar amount of RTV sillicone yes.
But its also easier to make a single wall blank (like I did) and then make inserts that fit any window holes.
That's what I did for my walls anyway, and yeah getting the initial window spaces, and the inserts to be interchangeable was a little tricky. It helped that I constructed the master for my walls out of strips of a known width arranged vertically, squared to the top and bottom, with a known distance between the top and bottom that formed the window void. I then used Bondo to gap fill then I sanded everything flat. (the "pour seam" in the final panel is due to me clutzing and cracking the master and not taking the time to redo the whole process, including detailing. I was able to glue the sections back together relatively closely, but not perfectly (as you can see in the final mold) it works for that particular panel, and as such falls into the "happy accident" area of model making. the adhesive I used was Zapagap brand Cyanoacrylic (super glue) glue


mxwllmdr wrote:Yep, looking forward to getting into the molding thing. So many ideas...... So little time......


Can't wait to see what you come up with...


I'll do the same deal I did with stien... Make me some tiles/sections, I'll mold em, and send you a Mold of em (if they mold up OK) If you give me the ok to sell the mold I'll split my profits with you 50/50


The masters arrived this morning, I'll be creating the mold in a few moments actually.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/26 16:09:13


Post by: mxwllmdr


Dude, Seriously? Bet, I will get some of the bits I have in mind going IRL. Rules are stay away from IP, right?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/26 16:28:28


Post by: dsteingass


Awesome! Can you please take a WIP shot or two?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/26 16:41:03


Post by: mxwllmdr


Dave, you talking to me about WIP shots again? I suck at that...... I gotta get better at that.....


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/26 16:42:44


Post by: dsteingass


No Galon, I wanted to see his process as he pours liquid goodness over the masters


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/26 16:47:28


Post by: mxwllmdr


Oh, I thought there for a second that my inability to post WIP Pjhotos was haunting me again....


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/26 17:12:01


Post by: Galorn


mxwllmdr wrote:Dude, Seriously? Bet, I will get some of the bits I have in mind going IRL. Rules are stay away from IP, right?


yep. as much as possible. "generic" things are ok (skulls being skulls, etc)


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dsteingass wrote:Awesome! Can you please take a WIP shot or two?


absolutely.


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AS requested a WIP of the panels Dsteingrass sent me...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/26 22:12:21


Post by: dsteingass


WOOT! LEGO Molds! Do your stuff!
This is exciting!


Speaking of....
I get home from work, and look what is on the doorstep!

A Box, from AK Interactive....


Inside the box?...another box.


Inside that box.....the RIVETED, Weapons-Grade BOX!

(Insert angelic chorus sound here)



It's the Badger Renegade Krome detail airbrush!

Look at how tiny that needle is!
one tiny bend can ruin it!


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My first try, no practice!


OMG this thing actually DOES what I want it to do!
And it can make even finer lines, once I find the sweet spots on the air pressure and trigger
This one has the needle limiter, which lets me set the trigger so that it won't go past the sweet spot either.
..not to mention it actually FEELS like it belongs in your hand


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/26 22:54:01


Post by: dangledorf2.0


It'd probably look like a little person with a little can of spraypaint made a little tiny gangsign...

Ohh, and now you can make little caution stripes!!!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/26 22:58:56


Post by: Viktor von Domm


thats why there are some mighty looking protectors on either side, eh?

wow... you are now fully loaded... armed and kicking....

i read the sticker on the upper side... "priority" mail... makes your opening that much more special...as if "Q" has sent you this one^^...so what will be your first victim?^^


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needs more rivets.... that is priceless... and it would make such a nice avatar... not that i then miss your snack machine... but rivtes are rivtes.... nothing sees one better through the week...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/26 23:05:08


Post by: dsteingass


HAHAHA


This turned out looking more like the logo for the
League of Extraordinary Polka-dot wearers

But you get the idea.


Yep Vik! And it also came with a different nozzle cover also, one that does not have the protectors, for getting really close to your work. But that scares me a bit.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/26 23:09:03


Post by: mxwllmdr


Darn it, Dave, stop getting better at everything......


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/26 23:21:31


Post by: dsteingass


mxwllmdr wrote:Darn it, Dave, stop getting better at everything......


I'm not though, it is seriously the difference a quality, precision tool makes.


That's right Vik...Armed.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/26 23:23:07


Post by: Viktor von Domm


wow...cheesy L there...


yep that would scare me too... how much did you have to flog for that one... i like how it reflects the light with that chrome hide by the way...


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lol....


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/26 23:23:38


Post by: Vitruvian XVII


Be ace to see what you can do with that bad boy


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/26 23:30:23


Post by: RSJake



I am seriously jealous! Nice one! Can't wait to see what you do with it! Besides doodles of course!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/26 23:50:28


Post by: dsteingass


It was only $119- My Christmas money had burned a hole in my pocket long enough


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/26 23:52:42


Post by: RSJake


Dang! There a lot of other things I need before that happens! Maybe next Christmas!
Actually not a bad price for a quality brush though.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/26 23:57:44


Post by: Viktor von Domm


with your dollar all low... it looks like a bargain even...(just teasing...^^)

and i just like that figure of speah dave... my wife wants to sit on the money and me i want to spend it.... argh... we are truly yin and yang...^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/27 00:05:55


Post by: dsteingass


AND...It has a RIVETED CASE!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/27 00:08:34


Post by: Viktor von Domm


well...looks like said like a "Q" based weapon... sleak and rivetd case... that inspires a certain authority even unopened...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/27 00:33:13


Post by: Capitansolstice


Viktor von Domm wrote:well...looks like said like a "Q" based weapon... sleak and rivetd case... that inspires a certain authority even unopened...

I wish I had one But, I went to hobby lobby today and bought: http://lh6.googleusercontent.com/public/LVTyd-DMBV6OLtpLZScHW-6ZW2IcK5hq-5GV_WcTAFyo6_gp9TpmNNXQOPIqJ0IHcBIP3pyvAcI4dQM_p9krRI9OMEs0pROpgmxI5aJz64fv5fIsPxqW020xbrKO_R4sEOpgKWx_NgG_614_EL4U6EDxs58jcZo6T-XvPw
I have a feeling that this will be a piece of crap, but whatever.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/27 00:53:18


Post by: dsteingass


Noo Cap'n, that'll work great for nice, smooth basecoats, camoflage, and any other general purpose painting. Paasche is a great brand, don't knock it till you try it! With a bigger needle, you don't have to use as thin of paints as with a small needle.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/27 00:56:21


Post by: Capitansolstice


Awesome, that's good to hear
Its just that when I saw $35 I was like, This is too good to be true!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/27 00:58:44


Post by: dsteingass


I use an el-cheapo air compressor, it's noisy as hell, but it works. It's pressure regulator/gauge doesn't read very accurately, but you'll never need more than 20 PSI max with an AB.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/27 01:10:24


Post by: Capitansolstice


I got one at home already, I was amazed at all of the old air brush stuff I found from my dad


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/27 01:39:38


Post by: theunicorn


Rogue Wolves wrote:aannd.. BAM heres where the movie begins... now we will skip ahead to where i kidnap your precious plasticard, and those awsome brass clamps. now either you make the terrain or we replay the whole Taken movie.. but let me warn you, you are definatly not QuiGon......


http://warfrog.blogspot.com/2011/09/full-auto-shotgun-aa-12.html

This is how riveters and resin addicts protect the workshops.

That is me in the videos last year and about 50 pounds ago.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/27 02:16:17


Post by: dsteingass


@ Unicorn..>That is badass sir!

So, to FULLY test this gift from Q, I chose...

The reinforced walkway. ANd the Vallejo Air Gunship Green.



That stringy thing is about to aid in the weathering process later on




I cannot begin to convey how completely impressed and awesome feeling I am right now after using this tool. When you place your finger on the trigger and push an pull and find the sweet spot for the size of spray you want, set the limiter, and I SWEAR....A Neural link opens to your brain and it is thought-controlled. You feel like the Princeps of a Titan, the thing is wired to your will!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/27 02:39:55


Post by: Capitansolstice


Sounds like someone has the airbrush jitters


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/27 02:42:59


Post by: dsteingass


You know how hard it is to shoot a pic in digital macro with the left hand while trying not to puddle with the airbrush right hand?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/27 02:49:37


Post by: Vitruvian XVII


Haha, you'll be an ab master in no time.

Maybe its time to try zenithal either on minis or some terrain?


edit: Just realised how big this thread is getting Dude! You're gonna have to start summarising like Gits soon


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/27 03:10:43


Post by: dsteingass


Thanks Vit! We'll leave the chronicalling to later scholars, this thread is real-time, 30 pages in the middle of blabber and all


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/27 03:13:26


Post by: Vitruvian XVII


Haha, that 30pgs of blabber wasnt that bad, quite entertaining really. Plus you had all those cool munda minis in there somewhere as well


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/27 03:14:01


Post by: shasolenzabi


The bridge is coming along nicely!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/27 03:24:10


Post by: dsteingass


Thanks Shas! Your rivet-fest of tank-painting is kicking ass as well!

Vit, think of this thread as the unedited footage from a camera mounted high on the ceiling of a nuthouse activities room


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/27 03:30:19


Post by: MauS


*turns to the wall*

Who you callin Nutter ?

Looking good there with the AB. Maybe i've overread, but what do you use for airsupply? What type of compressor?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/27 03:37:04


Post by: dsteingass


Just an El-Cheapo brand noisy $60 5-gallon tank. It runs maybe once an hour, because it has a moisture trap that works at the tank level (the brass grenade pin-looking bit), and spitting water out lowers the tank pressure a bit, other than the noise, and inaccurate regulator gague, I have no complaints with it.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/27 03:42:14


Post by: MauS


Thanx

Gotta look in to getting an airbrush... My birthday is coming up next month, so i'll present that as an excuse to the missus


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/27 05:30:24


Post by: Galorn


Molds have cured. a few minor issues (bleed under in a few spots, adhesive failure upon demolding.) all relatively easily corrected. (re-glue parts that popped off when I extracted the mold, trim off bleed under then seal the master)

here are the freshly decanted molds.



Closeup of some bleed under...


On the whole very satisfactory first pour. I'll tweak a few things then make another pour tomorrow.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/27 08:31:54


Post by: lone dirty dog


Nice buy on the airbrush the fine line on that is bitching …… cant believe the level of control you have on that and no overspray must invest must invest ……. that will cut down your painting time for sure plus you have started that walk way which must be finished now

$119 a steal at that price dam you and all your toys ……. nothing better than having that parcel turn up on your doorstep like Christmas


As for the window mould I would build a basic frame (for gap size) then build detail around that so you always have the same overall size to fit the gap on the basic building section, plus you can alter other details around the window by making a detail mould brick or stone style ledges arches ect that can be stuck on to the building section as well (parts that are protruding from the building) its just an idea


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/27 08:34:23


Post by: Rogue Wolves


daaaamn thats a tiny sprey, nice find there dave. those molds look awsome galorn!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/27 08:35:33


Post by: lone dirty dog


As I remember I think it was Langley miniatures (railway miniatures) did a similar thing with some flat back factory and shop buildings, a basic design and you added what you wanted to them.

The first pours look pretty decent so far some minor faults with a little adjustment should be fine……. reminds me of my old Linka moulds now where are they


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/27 11:47:56


Post by: mxwllmdr


dsteingass wrote:You know how hard it is to shoot a pic in digital macro with the left hand while trying not to puddle with the airbrush right hand?



Use a tripod and timed exposures.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/27 13:58:17


Post by: dsteingass


Galorn the molds are looking awesome! Do you think the blank space next to the triangle piece can have another triangle piece there in the final mold? It looks to me that the bleed under the vent piece might just be able to be cleaned up with a knife? I did that with the wall mold you sent me, and the riveted window sills casted up nicely.

MAx, that's unpossible where my painting bench is unfortunately, just enough room under there for my legs/ass and the trash can for spraying cleaner, not a floor tripod, and not enough room on the bench for a tabletop tripod. I was rather impressed that I got those shots as-it-is


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/27 15:05:52


Post by: mxwllmdr


That is unacceptable, Dave. A man of your ingenuity can make something as simple as that happen. Get it together man, you have high quiality photos to snap.....


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/27 15:12:39


Post by: dsteingass


Don't try to frighten us with your sorcerer's ways, Lord mxwllmdr. Your sad devotion to that ancient religion has not helped you conjure up the stolen data tapes, or given you clairvoyance enough to find the Rebel's hidden fortress..."


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/27 15:13:46


Post by: mxwllmdr


I am not the driod you are looking for, Dave......


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The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/27 16:18:48


Post by: Galorn


dsteingass wrote:Galorn the molds are looking awesome! Do you think the blank space next to the triangle piece can have another triangle piece there in the final mold? It looks to me that the bleed under the vent piece might just be able to be cleaned up with a knife? I did that with the wall mold you sent me, and the riveted window sills casted up nicely.

MAx, that's unpossible where my painting bench is unfortunately, just enough room under there for my legs/ass and the trash can for spraying cleaner, not a floor tripod, and not enough room on the bench for a tabletop tripod. I was rather impressed that I got those shots as-it-is


That would require a little jiggering as I currently don't have a second piece to glue into the master.... I intend to add another triange in if it casts well enough.

mxwllmdr wrote:I am not the droid you are looking for, Dave......


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Name that movie quote....


First one Starwars (new Hope)

Second one... 2001 a Space Odyssey


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/27 16:35:51


Post by: mxwllmdr


YEAH! GALORN WINS TODAYS BOOBIE PRIZE:



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/27 16:56:03


Post by: Galorn


mxwllmdr wrote:YEAH! GALORN WINS TODAYS BOOBIE PRIZE:



lol



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/27 17:14:42


Post by: dsteingass


HAHA I don't want a large Farve, I want a godamn litre of Cola!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/27 17:51:54


Post by: Galorn




The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/27 19:33:42


Post by: mxwllmdr


"Oh, Hell, Give me the Goddamn soap!"


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/27 20:08:46


Post by: HAZZER


It's looking good! keep it up!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/28 15:32:51


Post by: Galorn


And exactly how Goes it?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/28 15:48:00


Post by: dsteingass


Welll, Funny you should ask

The work week was especially exhausting, so I did nada last night. But after a long winter's nap, I awoke and began to play again.
This time, touching up the black with the airbrush.
See the green overspray on the ornamental spiky bit posts and white spots where the primer didn't quite get?

Well, they clean up nicely IMHO

I also decided to try adding some shadow between the deck and side plates too



Looking back now, I probably should've used a wash or ink for this instead, since my aim needs work oops
Oh well, it'll force me to work with the green again..maybe, we shall see

Now onto masking more hazard stripes. But I think i'll try the new 6mm tape this time, and do the yellow stripes over the black, the way I am used to doing it with a brush.

How goes it with the molds?


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the 6mm tape


1st coat- I like the look of the yellow after a few coats over black


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/28 17:17:34


Post by: Galorn


dsteingass wrote:Welll, Funny you should ask

The work week was especially exhausting, so I did nada last night. But after a long winter's nap, I awoke and began to play again.
This time, touching up the black with the airbrush.
See the green overspray on the ornamental spiky bit posts and white spots where the primer didn't quite get?

Well, they clean up nicely IMHO

I also decided to try adding some shadow between the deck and side plates too



Looking back now, I probably should've used a wash or ink for this instead, since my aim needs work oops
Oh well, it'll force me to work with the green again..maybe, we shall see

Now onto masking more hazard stripes. But I think i'll try the new 6mm tape this time, and do the yellow stripes over the black, the way I am used to doing it with a brush.

How goes it with the molds?


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the 6mm tape


1st coat- I like the look of the yellow after a few coats over black


The molds came out fairly well. I have to do a modest re configure of my workspace to cast a triangle to add to the master... or otherwise come up with something. I can send you the first pull molds monday If you would like, otherwise I'tll be a little bit as I need to really get back to work on a crapton of terrain I'm building for use at Templecon.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/28 17:28:48


Post by: dsteingass


Hey man! Awesome! send away, no big deal. Next time I'll make a second master THis is exciting!


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Second coat


Patented turbo turbine super duper space age drying system working....



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This side was closest to perfect IMHO


Little bleed on this side


Overall I'd say it is more than satisfactory.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/28 18:48:03


Post by: Rawson


I like the green that you're using there, DST. It lends itself to looking old before you even weather it!

I see you learned your lesson on the overspray. Finally.

I'm glad you're enjoying your new toy

Keep up the great work!
Rawson


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/28 19:29:37


Post by: dsteingass


Ha! Thanks Rawson, the new toy allows me much more control


Still doing the metallics by hand though


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/28 20:19:51


Post by: lone dirty dog


That is looking pretty fine I like the overspray it gives that realistic look to it IMO hell you want to see the lines around here your lucky if it is a line


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/28 20:36:10


Post by: Tortured-Robot


Nice, finish everything to this standard and you'll have one fantastic looking board!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/28 21:00:16


Post by: Viktor von Domm


wow...that is what i miss out on when yesterday i had to go early to bed due to some major headaches...

boy...shaky hands...but that is adjustable by the lil screw on the backside of your neck...justa turn clockwise and the shaking will be gone...

gotta second rawsons statement to the green... looks very good and convincingly been out in the bleeding sunshine for years...

and the hazard stripes are really looking way better now with that tinier tape in use!

as for metalics done with AB... well that would make me hesitant as well... metalics are way thicker and sometimes clumpy...so no telling what might happen to your very thin needle if you used those two ingredients together...

and i missed out on the quotes party....darn...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/28 23:43:08


Post by: dsteingass


@VIk Yeah, I'm afraid th little metal flakes will clog up the little needle area. I got some more airbrush paint colors today, but didnt even find AB metallics, so I will assume that it isn't recommended. Missed you being away for a day Vik!

@Tortured, thanks man! But you know I'm not done with it yet, more to do.

@LDD THanks, I guess it didn't turn out too bad eh?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/28 23:52:16


Post by: Vitruvian XVII


Pretty sure vallejo do paints specifically for ab, including metals, Vallejo Air iirc.

Also, you can use acrylic thinners to thin metal paints. Perhaps talk to MajorTom11 or Eggroll (both ab afficionados) to get tips of how to spray metal paints. Im sure theyd be more than happy to help out.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/28 23:52:33


Post by: Viktor von Domm


wow... thanks... was very akward not being on here... and boy had i wade through some heavy pages for my backlog... that is what you get for being sick for a day... lots of stuff to read through...

i bet i would kick myself if i tried metalics with an aribrush and then get it all clogged up...better your brushwork for these still...after alll one doesn´t want to loose groundcontact because of all that airbrush induced chest swelling^^

today we went to the hobby and art shop...the one that sells the foam core...we, that is me, went for some more plastic rods and i showed young felix what is on store for the next week...showed him that overpriced chopper for referrence...he was impressed ...as was me^^... got me some tubes and also some 1x2mm sheats of PC as well as a nice and tiny L-profil rod... i think rivettos buddies will have some nice clawlike fingers...^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/28 23:54:11


Post by: monkeytroll


Looks great dstein You're really starting to get comfortable with the air-brush, this means we expect at least double the amount of product in this thread from now on


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/28 23:56:38


Post by: dsteingass


Yeah Vit, the owner of the store I bought the Vallejo Model Air paints from printed me a 3 page list of all the colors in case I wanted to order some. I'll have to take a look at it. I know they can be thinned, but I probably want to use my Badger 150 for those, larger needle.

Good stuff Vik! Can't wait to see more!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/28 23:57:25


Post by: lone dirty dog


Could do with a group photo of the terrain so far just to relive your hard work and progress ….. and to just be bloody nosey



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/29 00:34:01


Post by: dsteingass


Group photo will come soon. But not until it's done.



Trying this liquid masking stuff


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/29 00:43:27


Post by: Viktor von Domm


what is this liquide tape made of? i suppose it is some kind of latex milk? later on you can just peel it off?...interresting.... i saw someone using marmite and other stuff like salt and so on for waethering...which in essence is all a way to maks off some areas...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/29 00:45:48


Post by: dsteingass


I'm not sure what it is, but yes I assume it is a latex-type stuff too Vik. Instructions say to score it with a sharp knife and peel. We shall see

I have listened to the complete catalog of THE Creedence while painting this too.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/29 00:49:30


Post by: Viktor von Domm


that is a band i assume? never heard of them...

and i like how boldly you now go where none of us has gone before...^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/29 00:53:19


Post by: dsteingass


Creedence Clearwater Revival?? OMG, I would be glad to introduce you to a piece of Americana worth being proud of Vik!





The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/29 01:01:24


Post by: Viktor von Domm


ohoh.... pease accept my total excuse for this absolute lack of thinking before posting... now i see what i have shoveld me a big grave.... of course i know them... wasn´t born behind the moon... where can i put my face...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/29 01:02:53


Post by: dsteingass


Just watch this one! My fav!



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/29 01:03:01


Post by: Viktor von Domm


by the way...funny fact... only the first vid is working for me... isn´t that a shame...? bloddy ugly lawsuits in the motherland...


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here this one i can view too^^




The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/29 01:22:30


Post by: dsteingass


That's a good un too!

One of my new colors, Barley Grey I'd say it makes great cement color myself


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/29 01:43:49


Post by: Viktor von Domm


i that one coat over black? hmmm...quite good... a wash of blue or black and concrete is being used^^


have a good day? now...i need me some sleep now^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/29 02:13:31


Post by: dsteingass


Yep, 1 coat over the black. rest well Vik!

Precision green touchup


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/29 02:20:49


Post by: monkeytroll


Assuming the masking liquid is a latex-type like maskol, one trick is to paint something like a small sliver of tape or the end of a thick thread into the mask. You can then pull on that to start the peeling process when it's time to remove.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/29 02:34:07


Post by: dsteingass


Ahh! GOod idea monkey! Thanks man!



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Well, I suppose my readers are all old farts in bed Nevermind the 5+ hour time difference.
Cider and donut and I suppose I'll go crawl in as well.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/29 05:35:54


Post by: mxwllmdr


I'm awake, Dave, and just got home really. Late night playing M:TG at the shop...... This all looks fantastic, BTW.





The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/29 05:56:58


Post by: Rogue Wolves


hey that bridge looks great dave, nice job!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/29 10:24:17


Post by: lone dirty dog


I am awake now so get out of bed you lazy git donut and crack on lol, this is coming together nicely I like monkeytrolsl idea with the tape just a sharp blade cut and next you know detail sliced off tape would be safer by the sound of it.

Really looking forward to the group shot but guess I will just have to wait for that one, I have to say that walk way is looking dam fine nice work on the structure even looks like a kit rather than a scratch build great job…..

Cider and donut that is a strange combo


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/29 10:53:39


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Nice work on the walkway. Will it be getting some weathering?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/29 13:37:01


Post by: Viktor von Domm


i don´t want to be a jerk here...but i spotted a lil flaw on the walkway... on the left side...there is a bit of the framework bumpy...where the connection between the wall and the granny grating is... that horizontal piece of PC... just saying...

and i too think that monkeys idea is a strike of genius...

and i get the feeling that you are online 24/7... every freaking time i see you on^^ seems you are either trying to kill yourself with cider and donouts or this is the elixir of life...hmmm...needs some tests i guess...after all in my favorites comix certain accidential mixtures too gave super powers...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/29 13:47:15


Post by: dsteingass


1. I always have my Dakka window open
2. Cider and nutty cake donuts are awesome
3. Yes that plastic strip is a bit loose/warped
4. weathering will happen


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/29 13:47:57


Post by: Capitansolstice


Dsteingass's Rules to live by:
dsteingass wrote:1. I always have my Dakka window open
2. Cider and nutty cake donuts are awesome
3. Yes that plastic strip is a bit loose/warped
4. weathering will happen

Edit: Gass Not Grass


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/29 13:49:20


Post by: dsteingass


*GASS not *GRASS
LOL


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/29 13:53:36


Post by: Capitansolstice


Huh, I cant believe I've never noticed that


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/29 13:56:30


Post by: dsteingass


It;s ok, you're only the 127,986th person to ever do that


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/29 13:56:45


Post by: lone dirty dog


dsteingass wrote:*GASS not *GRASS
LOL


The sixties are over Gass is the new drug …..


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/29 13:58:58


Post by: Viktor von Domm


lol... will you do something about the loose strip or will you use it as a means to aply weathering... as we are all making no fresh from the factory pieces...any faults can always used for weathering^^ pretty clever

and me, i have always my window for dakka open as long as i am sitting in front of the pc...even when i am gaming it is still on... i switch from gae to dakka every five minutes...am i obsessed?...who could possibly say so...dedicated...more likley^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/29 14:01:19


Post by: dsteingass


I dunno. I'm really not that worried about it to tell you the truth. When you glue aluminum mesh between two sheets of plastic, it's hard to get the glue to hold both plastics very well without getting CA everywhere.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/29 14:04:34


Post by: Viktor von Domm


hmmm... i wonder...you did tell me to use the dust from sanding and sawing as a sort of cement ... maybe this methoode could used willingly? as in making a bit bigger sawdust or scrappings and fill them after soaking them in plastic glue? just a side thought....


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/29 14:21:26


Post by: dsteingass


No, it does not move, that peice is glued solid to the side panels. I'm just not going to ruin my paintjob at this point vik. That is the only camera angle where it is even visible.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/29 14:22:53


Post by: shasolenzabi


I like the walkway even more now, it is looking so perfect for Necromunda.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/29 14:29:20


Post by: Viktor von Domm


IT IS perfect !


and yep...see your point!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/29 15:07:41


Post by: monkeytroll


I'd like to say it was a genius idea I came up with on the spur of the moment, but it was how I was taught to use maskol back in the 80's Not that I ever really got on with the stuff back then, but it's certainly the way to do it without accidentally gouging a hole in your precious work - that leaves you having to repair AND repaint.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/29 15:10:22


Post by: dsteingass


Yeak, all my cutting on these bolts has done is cause me to cut/scrape the bolts, one even fell off and I had to glue. I will assume this stuf is probably better for larger areas, But i'll def use the thread idea in the future.


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so..I guess it is time to pose another action shot yes?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/29 15:12:21


Post by: monkeytroll


Yeah, I remember it being mainly used for masking aircraft canopies and the like, no way you wanted to scrape those with a blade.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/29 15:12:41


Post by: Viktor von Domm


aye! giddyup! about time!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/29 15:20:55


Post by: shasolenzabi


Action!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/29 15:38:53


Post by: dsteingass





By your command.


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I title this one "Defending the Stash"


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/29 16:09:30


Post by: madmartykmf


Looks great! Reminded me of this
[youtube] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39YUXIKrOFk&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/youtube]


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/29 16:48:43


Post by: dsteingass


My terrain reminds you of a gay disco? WTF? lol


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/29 16:57:09


Post by: mxwllmdr


dsteingass wrote:1. I always have my Dakka window open



I get an email on the blackberry everytime someone posts in a subscribed thread. SOmetimes my phone sits and dings for, like twenty minutes straight and when I get a chance to check there are forty or fifty new posts. MOst of them in one of Daves threads.... LOL


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THat looks fantastic, Dave. I really love the open air Coruscant kinda feel that is going on over there....


How far doen the City Spire would a scene like this appear?