Cheers mate, yes made it sopping wet with the glue/paste. This made it almost blend completely into the surface, then dappled matching white paint around the edges of the paper just to cover any paper edge that might otherwise be visible.
Class act, man. I've always had huge plan for terrain and it looks like I might finally have room by the end of the year. I'm definitely going to be creating quite a few pages of custom signs and posters for it. Have you had any luck with loose and/or crumpled signs? I'm pretty interested in creating different types of litter. I think dsteingass did some work on litter but I'm terrified of that huge blog, I'll tackle it at some point.
Regular printer paper works just fine, there really isn't any magic technique to it at all. Just weather as normal.
My cutting mat on my bench gets lots of glue drops, which creates a bubbly texture, I just pressed the paper against it to get an embossed effect, then tore and ripped it from there, then just streaked runs of washes. The same can be applied to any paper for as much or as little weathering as desired
Haha I noticed you'd started a new one now, I'll have to get some pace just to keep up! I'm determined to do it justice though, I managed to do Gits' Mantis blog at around 300 pages, the blog view helps since I can choose whether or not to see comments. It's the espresso shot of blog reading! I will be reading the majority of your posts though, come hell or high water. ...Just as soon as I get through Ice Angel's fluff.
Haha, okay well I might skip over some of that. Am I remembering right that you did some bottles and cans and stuff at one point? I'm thinking about sculpting some stuff like that and maybe make up a few moulds.
RSJake sculpted and casted some Nuka Cola bottles, I think he still has them for sale. He may be out of stock ATM. I made the Masters for the Nuka Cola and Sunset Sarsaparilla machines and some other fallout things, they are available through Galorn www.Rivetzone.com
Ok..after seeing Star Trek: Into Darkness..I'd like to redact my previous comment about primitive alien civilizations not building hex-based terrain. I cannot comment further without spoilers
http://www.spartangames.co.uk/ there is the main site for them. I've bought some the Dystopian Wars stuff before. Pretty good quality stuff from what I have seen.
I've bought a few of their stuff for a couple of the games they do. And I have seen plenty of blisters of some of the scenery bits they do for the games as well. Everything that I have seen has been good quality. Assuming they keep up to their own standards this new terrain will be very nice.
You could be on to something there CDK. I'm happy either way as long as they keep producing this stuff and maybe even expand on it. I'm almost certain this is the best and most detailed Infinity suitable terrain available. I'm mainly into the smaller pieces, the buildings I can take or leave. This is inspiring though:
MDF and HDF lasercut stuff...we are awash in it, hence the ho-hums in the other thread. Infinity needs alot of scatter pieces too. There aren't that many available yet, so the resin pieces Sparta is offering seem far more desirable to me than the HDF stuff. I can make big terrain pieces. High quality scatter, not so much.
I'd want to see photos of the pieces next to minis so that I may judge the scale better though.
I'm hoping to find some at GenCon, TheWarStore usually brings the full line of Spartan Stuff, last year they had all the DL stuff in a display case, even though it wasn't available yet.
Aw whiiit! I posted a huge reply here earlier but it must have failed to send or something.
As for the dropships, I didn't want to repost everything the other guy was posting immediately after he did it. Also, I'm not sure I'm that taken by them. I see the appeal though:
Thanks for the photo w/minis. Must have overlooked it on the Sparta site. Scatter stuff looks to be a fine match scale-wise for Infinity. I am guessing the minis in the photo are on 30mm bases. One rarely sees 25mm bases like that-- although they do exist.
Minis could be from the rumoured (afaik - it might have been changed to 'confirmed' - I don't play SG stuff or see it much) Firestorm:Invasion miniatures game (more futuristic version of Dystopian legions).
Aha! Casting problems! That was part of my huge and lost reply. I was wondering if ther was any evidence of this? I've just seen a tiny rumbling but no pictures or anything.
I'm glad so many people enjoy the thread! Funnily enough I just created it to coerce people into increased traffic so we could prove that we deserve our own sub forum...
Point proven.
And SG's new terrain continues to get a rough response over at news and rumours. Clearly CB just attracts more optimistic, positive people.
Maybe someone here can help me out and I think this is the right place to ask.
I have just started building up my board with a transit stop and a vending machine so far (they are painted though)
I have been reading through the Infinity books I bought and I read in one of them that on the Nomad Bakunin ship there is an entertainment town. Like Las Vegas kind of with vice, dreams, wealth, parties etc. It had a name that I cant recall at the moment and the book is no handy.
I am wanting to build my board like this with billboards, a night club, casino, plastic surgery / re-sleeving clinic, eateries and anything else that people would like to suggest here and you feel belongs in this setting.
So I would like to ask if anyone could direct me to a store that sells the type of things you would find in the bar?
Things like a jukebox, the bars themselves, little alcohol bottles and other bar nightclub stuff. I have been googling hard and yet to find some good stuff and any help would be appreciated.
I will post up pictures if you like as I complete the building over time
Necro wrote: Maybe someone here can help me out and I think this is the right place to ask.
It's as good a place as any! I'm sure between us we can help you out.
Necro wrote: I have just started building up my board with a transit stop and a vending machine so far (they are painted though)
On behalf of the internet: Pics or it didn't happen.
Necro wrote: I have been reading through the Infinity books I bought and I read in one of them that on the Nomad Bakunin ship there is an entertainment town. Like Las Vegas kind of with vice, dreams, wealth, parties etc. It had a name that I cant recall at the moment and the book is no handy.
Vaudeville is the place you are talking about. It's a really rich environment and I think it's probably the place we know most about in the universe. Las Vegas is a good comparison although I hadn't made it before, I always think of the hijacked holo bands from Caprica. You should definitely read through all three Nomad sections in the Infinity books a few times and also the extra fluff sections before the rules. These areas are packed with information and give a really clear feel for the area and why it's there.
Necro wrote: I am wanting to build my board like this with billboards, a night club, casino, plastic surgery / re-sleeving clinic, eateries and anything else that people would like to suggest here and you feel belongs in this setting.
So I would like to ask if anyone could direct me to a store that sells the type of things you would find in the bar?
Things like a jukebox, the bars themselves, little alcohol bottles and other bar nightclub stuff. I have been googling hard and yet to find some good stuff and any help would be appreciated.
Hmm, that's a tough one, especially considering Infinity aesthetics. There might be some modern styled scale modelling pieces that could be restyled but I haven't seen them. Your best bet would actually be to scratchbuild, and cast if you need lots of something. I can't really direct you to a complete source of information on those things but I recently read RSJake and dsteingass's blogs which are full of tips. If you have time to read them it'd be a good start to making your own terrain. Also Pacific's blog has amazing terrain specific to Infinity which will help.
So yeah, personally I don't think there is a source of what you need but you can probably make a lot of it and combine it with stuff from Sarissa, Warmill, MAS, Spartan, etc.
Necro wrote: I will post up pictures if you like as I complete the building over time
That's a great idea and if you do decide to scratchbuild then it'll be easier for us to help you. You can also start a blog so we can follow your progress easily and give advice if you need it.
Hmmm... I think I need to come up with a proper OP with a tonne of links. Another job added to the list!
That is a kit from BPlaser. They have some amazing stuff and I plan to build a lot of Vaudeville city using their kits. The acrylic bends and the seats are made from wood and the wood bends as well.
Between scratch building, BPlaser and Antenocitis I should be able to come up with some good stuff. Going to keep checking on this thread though as I have seen so amazing things so far.
That's a great piece mate. Just to be clear, I did believe you it's just that Dakka loves a picture!
BP look like they might be players, I'll be interested to see how they develop.
I'm going to be doing an inner city styled board eventually so I've been gathering ideas which might be useful to you, if you have any questions feel free to ask us and I'll see if I can help.
That's a fantastic little stop! Lovely curves! I wouldn't have guessed MDF at all until I saw the sign supports! Good luck with the operation! hope it isn't anything too serious.
Not sure if this has been posted already, but Dust Tactics released these neat huts a little while ago (These are comparison shots by another member on the official Infinity forums):
They run at $20 for 6 huts (I buy my stuff from Miniature Market so they're only $13 from them. Or $16 at the War Store).
Apart from that these should have been (And probably were) posted already:
http://www.toposolitario.com/workshop/ikube.html - Modular print-and-fold shipping crates! 30-40 of these and a couple of gym mats and bam: You got yourself a full-on table. Literally costs only pennies to make, too: The PDFs are free and if you don't own a color printer, your library does!
Those Dust Tactics pieces are pretty nice, a bit small imho but a couple of boxes of them could make a pretty decent start to an old fashioned barracks. They are very modern in my mind though which means I can only really see them as Ariadna terrain.
Not a fan of paper terrain and I've seen far to many paper crates at this stage but you can't argue with the results. A paper crate yard is the fastest and cheapest way to go from no terrain to a full table.
The Dusk Tactics pieces could benefit from an added strip of plasticard to raise the buildling up a couple of inches I think, but that wouldn't be hard to do.
Good idea D, that might bring the scale in. I'd also be tempted to make the doors wider and put some futuristic detail on the outside. Keypad lock on the door frame maybe.
Thanks for posting! Do you work for Maki or are you just a fan?
I have mixed feelings on this. At first I thought it was more MDF terrain and I was pretty disappointed but then I saw the delicate structures and shapes which looked like plastic so I checked out the video.
I'm pretty damn happy to see some nice plastic terrain but I'm more than a little worried about scale. The 35mm 'miniature' in the pictures is rather misleading and even at that the stuff is huge by comparison. It seems that next to Infinity miniatures this terrain is going to look like it was built for giants. I really would like to see some real scale pictures at this stage.
I would consider this stuff for 40k but the jury is out at the moment.
I was pretty excited at first when i saw the makitainer KS posted elsewhere as i thought it would be a good way to get cheap plastic containers rather than trawling e-bay and waitting for AT43 containers to come up. But unless you splurge on some of the higher pledge levels you are still looking at over $10 per container (plus the extras like stairs etc). So if i was looking for containers or table coverage i think i would probably still go for some of the mdf/ hdf terrain that is out there. But having said that the modularity of the kits does look really interesting. You can build them into some interesting layouts and even just breaking a building down into a floor and a couple of walls lets you make the most of the amount of LOF blocking terrain you can get. The other downside is that you have to wait until christmas before you get the loot! I could build a table out of the foamcore i have lying around in that time! (Hmm, theres an idea for a pledge in there somewhere )
Casey did you think they were too big or too small? I thought the dimensions seemed about right for containers and if anything maybe a bit small for buildings. Although once you combine a couple together they are probably about right for building 'modules'.
I think the stuff looks too big, honestly. I think truescale 30mm is going to look tiny next to it. I'd like to be wrong though, better scale shots will be helpful.
To be fair, every time I see it it seems a little smaller but I'm not sure yet.
The dimensions are 140mm x 70 x 70 so they will be about twice the height of a normal infinity model and probably bigger than most TAGs (although some of the newer ones might be a bit taller).
bantha_beast wrote: The dimensions are 140mm x 70 x 70 so they will be about twice the height of a normal infinity model and probably bigger than most TAGs (although some of the newer ones might be a bit taller).
I think the problem is I'm more interested in realism than gaming, these are actually pretty standard sizes.
I see your concerns and will try to explain below:
Our terrain was built to suit both 28 and 32mm scales. Doors will have different size depending on the type of building. For example the sci-fi doors are 50mm tall; Our doors are between 32mm and 38mm wide thus allowing the actual 25 or 30mm miniature to go through the door. We wanted you to be able to actually position a miniature under the door. Our terrain was built not for gaming, heights were studied to give the player the option to reach inside the building and position a miniature inside it.
A standard human is 6” tall 30mm to the top of the head, our building have an internal space of 60mm 12” that is a normal house ceiling and will allow you to place your 28mm miniatures inside it.
A door in a realistic scale would be 36 mm tall and about 12 mm wide, which would look pretty small. Although the miniatures are 30mm tall, they stand on a base which is 3mm thick, more if you use decorated bases. If you look at other scenery already in the market it is not uncommon to see a miniature taller than a door when standing next to it. Many make the doors the correct height but considerably larger to match the bases turning the door almost into a square. We wanted to do something different and more suitable to play, while keeping appealing proportions.
Thank you very much for taking the time to provide more details RJ. You have been very helpful and that has quelled any fears I had about scale. You've clearly put a lot of thought into this and I'm sure these kits will go far.
New information in mind, I think the fact that the terrain is so modular, plastic and reasonably priced has just made Infinity players terrain choice a little harder.
I would love to see some scale photographs with prototypes and miniatures from well known ranges next. Just so we can get a better feel of it on the table. Hopefully that isn't too far off.
Casey we are working on it while I type. As you may understand is not an easy task to do. But we may have a solution, I hope we can show you something by tomorrow.
I understand it is legally very difficult to do, I'm glad you are trying to find a way around it though. I'm sure all of your customers will be thankful.
I must say I am particularly impressed by your interaction with the consumer, it's always nice to have a positive impression of buisness' staff! In my experience it will make or break a small company, you are definitely going about things the right way.
Automatically Appended Next Post: So I was in a nearbye town yesterday waiting on a bus and texting a friend who recently moved away. We were talking about the weather(how very British) so I took a quick snap of the area to answer both where I was and how nice a day it was.
I was going through my camera shots later and I relaised that this rather lovely new bus station is actually very good Infinity terrain. This sort of architecture is pretty modern but for some reason in the future we decided glass is lame. I don't buy that which is why my table is going to have loads of this sort of stuff.
Here is the snap I took, sorry it's a little blurred, I took a better one but it's 90% sky:
@Casey as promissed.. this unfortunately is the max we can do sorry. But should give you an idea.
Also consider we are working on sidewalks to be added around the buildings (these will support the street lamps and advertisment signs, currently been working on), thus you should not look at the miniature on the ground for scale but the one inside the building. As you can see (at least in my opinion) the building is true scale for 28mm figures. The doors may look a bit oversized, but we had in mind a structure where you can actualy play using the inside of the building also. This will allow you to set the minature on the door step half in and half out.
Again any comments are welcome they always help us to improve. In fact a few extra pieces we have planned for next stretch goals came from ideas brought to us by some gamers comments.
Excellent RJ! Thank you for sorting out the scale pictures, it has successfully quashed my worries completely. Taking into account customer support, cost, scale, modularity, playability, aesthetics and material: I think it's safe to say that you are, in my opinion, producing the best product on the market to efficiently fill a table with quality terrain.
You've certainly moved into my top spot and although I prefer to build my own terrain I'll be considering buying yours to convert. More importantly I'll be recommending you to others!
Since you asked for ideas I had a think. Honestly I think you have pretty much everything down and I'm looking forward to the other stuff you are going to add. I see you have shutter style closed windows and blank fillers which I'm guessing are meant to be painted as windows or more wall. These are good options. I also see there are a couple of types of door. My question is, do the doors move or do they have to be glued in place? Also, the doors are sliding doors but they are very close to corners of walls, where do they slide to?
P.S. Could you send me a private message about the software you use and/or recommend? I've been out of the CAD loop for a while but I'm probably going to have to buy soon.
Casey's Law wrote: Excellent RJ! Thank you for sorting out the scale pictures, it has successfully quashed my worries completely. Taking into account customer support, cost, scale, modularity, playability, aesthetics and material: I think it's safe to say that you are, in my opinion, producing the best product on the market to efficiently fill a table with quality terrain.
You've certainly moved into my top spot and although I prefer to build my own terrain I'll be considering buying yours to convert. More importantly I'll be recommending you to others!
Since you asked for ideas I had a think. Honestly I think you have pretty much everything down and I'm looking forward to the other stuff you are going to add. I see you have shutter style closed windows and blank fillers which I'm guessing are meant to be painted as windows or more wall. These are good options. I also see there are a couple of types of door. My question is, do the doors move or do they have to be glued in place? Also, the doors are sliding doors but they are very close to corners of walls, where do they slide to?
P.S. Could you send me a private message about the software you use and/or recommend? I've been out of the CAD loop for a while but I'm probably going to have to buy soon.
Well we are 50% down the road... unfortunately seems we will not produce all we wanted on this KS. But we have triangular and octagonal sections... for what? You will see. We have parts to use the walls as barriers, we have pubblicty signs, light posts, wall lamps, barrels, low walls for dungeons, landing pads, and much more ready to toss out
As for the doors, they are attached to the wall with a thin layer, and can be easily cut out, same for the wiondow. We have a project to have them repositioonable but the mold cost is prohibitive at these level of the KS. We will see if we can fit it in.
I'm sure most of you have seen this.
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/escenorama-sci-fi-line The buildings are neat, but honestly I'm more interested in the accessories. They just added a streetlights add on, and I think they'll work great with my Secret Weapon urban streets once they get here.
Most of his work isn't suited for sci-fi though.
I'm just recently interested in the game because WH40k seemed to expensive for me to start with, and I discovered the local club that introduced me to Infinity. I'm currently just painting my first model just for the looks ^^ But since I'll need a lot of terrain this seems cool for people on a low budget like me.
I've just printed it, and I'll post pictures of it when it's ready. I can't work on it tomorrow though, it'll have to wait.
Does anyone know of any other free/cheap paper models you can build yourself?
Yeh there is a tonne of papercraft terrain, it's probably scattered through this thread as I have sadly not had time to sort out the OP. Particularly there are a fair few container types.
I agree that it's a great way for new players to fill a table quickly and for those on a tight budget. Do tell us how it goes!
Ah yes, I've found the containers by skimming through this thread already ^^ I really like the Ikubes
I just thought there'd be more advanced structures aswell =D But I'll make sure to search this thread more thoroughly
The textures are something I want to try out, just waiting for my dad to bring some foamcore from his work =D
Haven't had time to check My Threads! This stuff looks great RJ, very classy looking terrain. It actually looks a lot cleaner than a lot of the other stuff available, to my eye anyway.
Any Infinity Dakkanauts pledged to this kickstarter yet?
I'm quite happy with the price myself, particularly to get something other than MDF. I think the minimum pledge is for two terrain elements which would mean you'd have to buy something else or get both. I could be wrong though, I haven't delved too deep because kickstarter doesn't like my phone.
Hmm, yeh I think so. It seems to be much more expensive at the bottom of the line. I think it was the $75 pledge I was looking at earlier which is a nice deal. I think it was 5 pieces and 5 accessory sets.
Ever thought of playing in a full city before? Well look at this.
I hope to have the accessories completed tomorrow, to include a satellite dish, air vents, signs and more.
And with a few led and abtteries maybe you can play a night game...
Nice vid, it's a good kit for everyone in my opinion. You could not glue it or magnetise it if you need to move it around, it's in nice blocks if you want to use it for kit bashing your own terrain and it just needs those little holes filled for those who want to keep it stuck in one piece. It certainly seems that you have put a lot of thought into it!
Could you walk us through the retail prices now?
- How much is each element?
- What does that city cost in total?
- What is the approximate cost to fill 1sqft with varying terrain?
- Can you list the terrain you are or are planning to make that would suit Infinity?
- Are you planning more scatter terrain/interior terrain?
Thanks for taking the time to explain stuff to us.
The gothic window panels make me drool! What if a guy just wanted about 100 of those?
And the Dentil molding is fantastic! - They should make bank wall panels with that Dentil molding as well.
Not Infinity so-to-speak, but for other darker grimness
For me everything looks cool except those gothic windows. They would be great for 40k but for Infinity just to big of openings. I also just don't see the gothic style in my interpretation of the Infinity universe. But I like the rest of the stuff. I may have to consider picking some stuff up later after the kickstarter.
You never know in the future, old Churches may still exist There are also low gothic windows coming, a bit far from beeing done, but who knows.
Sorry for not updating, but is two of us running the show and killing our selves.
And my club stressing me with the 2 floor terrain, street on top and dungeon below.. like an underground railroad station... now they stress for a Sub station entrance AAAARGH..... after aocmment from one user...
Took me a while to be able to take a picture of the finished container I found. I also made an Ikube to see which one I prefer.
On pictures I prefered the Ikubes, but now I see they're not what I tought they were. These are not cargo containers, but more like deployable rooms, like they use in construction zones (we had some in school when I was 8).. And personally I don't like the height for that purpose. The other container is a little more complicated to put together (since it was my first time) but I think I'll manage. They are quite sturdy aswell, the edges fit nicely and support eachother.
Chaos marine for scale, couldn't use my first Haqq model since I didn't know about priming metal models, and I'm stripping my first attempt to paint it atm
My dad also brought some foamcore for me, I can also start my attempt to make buildings with the templates linked a few posts back.
Does anyone know what the height of buildings should be by the way? Should you be able to climb on to it without ladders? So that would be 3 inches, or with ladders that'd be maybe 2 short skills and about 6 inches? (with MOV being an average 6 inches?)
Thanks for coming back to give us a run down, stuff like that really adds to this tome of information!
I'm looking forward to your foamcore buildings although I can't offer much in the way of help. I'm sure someone around here can help you out though, I've seen a few guys working with foam terrain.
I also grabbed a few of the accessories packs. It looks like it will primarily only make up military/industrial complex type tables but I'm curious to try some battles where you can battle inside and out.
Yes please do post some pictures, we have been following this range quite closely. There was a fair bit of discussion a few pages back which might interest you.
Hi,yesterday I had a nice game against my friend Till. I shot some photos of my WIP terrain. The idea is to get different levels of height in very simple but good looking way. I bought a lot of MAS and Sarissa terrain and made some parts by myself...enjoy. Like I said this is VERY wip, but when I got the time I will paint the stuff more and more...
ahh...I got some of the new Spartan Interieurs, too and I´m very impressed. They are made perfect, I didn´t have to cut any mold line or anything else...ver nice. The price is okay, a box with tons of boxes and so on for about 30 €, that´s okay. Couldn´t do it myself in this high quality. I haven´t bought any of the houses, I got a lot of MAS buildings and so I don´t need to.
Looking good medusa! I'm sure it'll be astounding once it's all up to your full standards. Any chance of a picture of the contents of the €30 box beside a miniature or two? I'm really glad to hear the quality is up to scratch. Sounds like a winner.
This is what you get, bought it for 29 € in my FGS....
it´s : 4xbarrels, 6xbiohazard containers, 4xstorage crates, 5 storage containers, 2xpallets, 8xpallet arms (what does that mean in English?)
The boxes are big, perhaps a little big too big for an infantrist trooper, but I don´t care. Like I said the shapes are clean and ready to prime, nothing to argue about...
Thanks, mate! Those are really nice pieces but I'm not sure the scale works for me. They are a little big or a little small depending on how I look at them. They are still a great source of scatter terrain or for detailing a board, very cool. I hope the lab equipment type stuff is a better scale for me.
Medusa, how do you like the Sarissa terrain? I have some MAS stuff myself and for my next purchase, Sarissa is a possible contender. How would you compare the two?
Alpharius wrote: Sarissa's stuff compare quite favorably - in fact, in is right at the top, for me...
Sorry, don´t think so. I prefer MAS, I had big trouble painting the Sarissa stuff, it soaked up my primer totally and I had to do it by brush. The material is thinner than MAs. Apart from this you get some nice stuff for a rather good price.
Yeah, MDF will soak up some paint for sure. I don't think it really matters who makes it though. I'd like to get my hands on more than MAS stuff to compare though.
When I update the thread OP should I just add a list of products or what would you guys like? Should there be pictures of each product? Maybe examples of people's terrain and tutorials? I'm game for anything really...
Casey's Law wrote: When I update the thread OP should I just add a list of products or what would you guys like? Should there be pictures of each product? Maybe examples of people's terrain and tutorials? I'm game for anything really...
You got it! It might take me a couple of days but I've bumped it to the top my to do list with the begginers thread and my run down on the DPC entries.
Here´s something new...I worked on jungle terrain the last days. It was easy to do and in two evenings I got enough stuff to get half of my table filled with jungle. Next week I try to do some more (bigger trees, swamps and a crashed helicopter) to give some more details to the stuff. This is the start...made of 1€-shop plants, some styrodure and old cardboard. All stuff I got at home, so it was real cheap...that´s a thing I like (I payed about 200 € for MDF-terrain...)
Casey's Law wrote: Nice work, mate. I'm not a big fan of plastic plants like those but you've mixed them up well so it doesn't bother me so much.
Thanks. Like I said, I wanted cheap easy to build stuff. I´ll look for more plants to get more mixed up parts. I know what you mean often the plants do not fit to the table but it´s okay for some couple of hours working...
Casey's Law wrote: Nice work, mate. I'm not a big fan of plastic plants like those but you've mixed them up well so it doesn't bother me so much.
Thanks. Like I said, I wanted cheap easy to build stuff. I´ll look for more plants to get more mixed up parts. I know what you mean often the plants do not fit to the table but it´s okay for some couple of hours working...
Much more than okay, I'd say! This is a really good example to new players of how you can get together a nice table with loads of terrain on a limited budget and timescale.
Right now we're releasing our "SlideShark" range which utilizes interlocking pieces for rapid assembly without the need for glue, as well as some other neat innovations such as mechanically sliding garage doors.
Make sure to "like" our FB page for upcoming specials and near daily inventory additions, not to mention to be part of the lively discussion that drives everything we make!
In terms of honest feedback I think we really need to see your mechanical doorways and stuff. Your website doesn't seem to give much away.
Apart from that, I don't want to be negative but it's hard to sound refreshing with these products now. I'm not being nasty but I literally wouldn't know who's product that is from the picture, there are so many people producing the same stuff.
I wish you the best of luck and I hope your innovations bring something new to the market, if they do I recommend you push that angle so consumers know why they should buy from you.
Casey's Law wrote: Apart from that, I don't want to be negative but it's hard to sound refreshing with these products now. I'm not being nasty but I literally wouldn't know who's product that is from the picture, there are so many people producing the same stuff.
As someone that doesn't know much about people that produce terrain for Infinity, my first thought was, "Wow that's a nice piece from Micro Art Studios" >_<. Which kind of sucks for Shark Mounted Lasers, but there's nothing that just sort of pops for their terrain, it looks like every other laser cut terrain, which isn't a bad thing when you want a variety of stuff that matches.
Casey's Law wrote: In terms of honest feedback I think we really need to see your mechanical doorways and stuff. Your website doesn't seem to give much away.
Aye, I'm still working on getting everything off the ground- thus the reason for the lackluster website! I'm still in University, and work a few jobs to get my way through, so time is at a premium. That being said, I really encourage people to keep in the loop on our facebook page because once I start trucking, things will quickly start coming to light.
I don't want to be negative but it's hard to sound refreshing with these products now. I'm not being nasty but I literally wouldn't know who's product that is from the picture, there are so many people producing the same stuff.
Product diversity is something I'll really be striving for in the upcoming weeks, for now I just put up the plans that I know are stable and have been playtested extensively. That being said, some of our range won't stand out. My first objective when making terrain when I first started doing this for my local game group was to get terrain on the table. Right now there are few inexpensive options when it comes to terrain. We look to have a diverse range that caters to gamers who are just looking for a board that's better than tissue boxes and pringles cans, as well as the MDF elite who cite collections of numerous suppliers.
The benches and terminals and such that show up in some of the pictures?
I'm about to place an order...
Also, one thing to note about your products is that the Price Is Right - you've got some of the best looking/cost effective stuff out there for Infinity.
And Infinity needs a LOT of terrain.
But going by your location, I guess no one should be surprised about that!
The benches and terminals and such that show up in some of the pictures?
The scatter terrain is currently unavailable on the website due to a current search for sustainable packaging options for such. Taking that into account however, I'll throw in some for you to test out!
Also, one thing to note about your products is that the Price Is Right - you've got some of the best looking/cost effective stuff out there for Infinity.
And Infinity needs a LOT of terrain.
But going by your location, I guess no one should be surprised about that!
Exactly, after a certain point it's difficult for the majority of gamers to drop more than the cost of their armies range for a table to play on. I like to think of Infinity as the budget conscious wargame (you know, besides it's title as the best in general)
As for my location... yes... Colorado bears the largest Infinity community outside of Spain, and I've come to the aid on many occasions. Our dire need for more terrain is basically what got me started down this path. In fact, for the upcoming FEAST OF BLADES, I've made thirty boards worth of terrain for the GT and weekend!
No clue what you're talking about (This is what I get for hand typing my closing quote tags)
SharkMountedOne wrote:
Aye, I'm still working on getting everything off the ground- thus the reason for the lackluster website! I'm still in University, and work a few jobs to get my way through, so time is at a premium. That being said, I really encourage people to keep in the loop on our facebook page because once I start trucking, things will quickly start coming to light.
Will you have an option for stores to buy through you for larger orders at a bit of a discount to the stores (so they can sell at retail)? I think that solid priced terrain for a game that might pick up would be a benefit to both a company and a store if the price was right. But Idk how much profit margin there is on your stuff. (I honestly don't know how quickly it might catch on, we're getting demos tonight)
The benches and terminals and such that show up in some of the pictures?
The scatter terrain is currently unavailable on the website due to a current search for sustainable packaging options for such. Taking that into account however, I'll throw in some for you to test out!
Sounds like a plan - let me know how to make it happen and I'll place the order today!
Excellent responses! I really hope this goes well and I completely believe that there are going to be some really cool thongs to come from you as you expand the range.
Casey's Law wrote: Excellent responses! I really hope this goes well and I completely believe that there are going to be some really cool thongs to come from you as you expand the range.
Even cool things too!
I'm having issues looking at the pictures on your website, do you have pictures you can post in this thread (besides the 1 you've already posted?), including painted examples?
I think it´s a nice looking terrain you got there. Sadly I´m from europe, I would give it a try. I think it´s getting harder and harder to get in buisnes, there is a lot of mdf out there right now...hope you´ll be lucky.
I'm having issues looking at the pictures on your website, do you have pictures you can post in this thread (besides the 1 you've already posted?), including painted examples?
They said HTML 5 is the wave of the future... it's also the wave of bugs...
As for pictures, right now we're doing tutorials on how to prep and paint our MDF terrain, so there is nothing fully painted as of right now, but I can toss in some other photos!
Notice how our stairs are slotted to fit miniature bases (Including risers/flock ect) so when you're climbing you don't have to say your models 2" up... he will be.
Casey's Law wrote: Excellent responses! I really hope this goes well and I completely believe that there are going to be some really cool thongs to come from you as you expand the range.
Alfndrate wrote: How many kits are used in the making of that piece
Which piece are you referring? The top picture, the landscape shot consists of four kits. 1x SharkSlide L-Shaped, 2x Sharkslide Rectangular, and 1x Data Transmission tower and some benching/consoles. Which translates to a low $36.
The two story buildings are simply a L-Shaped or Square Building with a Rectangular set on top, these examples stage for $20.
Haha, I clicked "sets/specials" and was treated to the 2 story one, trying to figure everything out, like, "okay this kit that I see how many of them do I need to make what he has in those pics."
I click "store" and I see more listings, though still no pictures.
Edit: Though I have a feeling it's because of my work filter. I see everything but the flexwall on my phone.
Shark Mounted Lasers wrote: "Yes, that set comes with a ladder, I will update the website as soon as possible. I'm currently running a wedding so bear with me. That being said, if you order one, the ladder will be there."
Shark Mounted Lasers wrote: "Yes, that set comes with a ladder, I will update the website as soon as possible. I'm currently running a wedding so bear with me. That being said, if you order one, the ladder will be there."
ORDER PLACED!!!
You get me one?
I will probably hold off on Infinity terrain until I know whether or not I like the game.
I know I like the game, and I love the models so...
Even though I'll have to be Demo Leader One in my area.
Having recently purchased a house means I've got plenty of space for a sweet setup at home now though, so that's seen my buy a lot of terrain over the last year!
I'd suggest checking out Rust Forge, which is co-owned by Dakka's own Shepherd23
He does plastic injected Shipping containers
and 28mm Hesco Barriers/Bastion (Spoilered for big)
Spoiler:
Shipping might be an issue for international folks, but I'm not sure, he's fixed the international shipping issue on their site, but idk what shipping appears to be now.
Never had any problem using either army painter or even GW spray paints to prime mdf with TBH. Two light coats are preferable over one thick coat, that does make a bit of a difference.
From what I can see the definitive answer is that their is no definitive answer. Results seem to vary widely between purchases so I suggest you treat it like any hobby project, how much effort do you want to put in? If you want to get the best consistent results and you're happy to put in the effort then I say lightly seal it with PVA first. It can't hurt, quite a few folk say it helps and you know it won't react funny with paint or anything.
It's like pinning a miniature or washing resin bits, most people say it's worth doing but sometimes we skip it for an easy life. When I don't I normally wish I had done it afterwards.
I found out last week that PVA comes in some very different thicknesses which I had never thought of before. I'd go for a consistency that only just stays where you put it. You don't want pools but you definitely don't want clogs or you'll get a PVA skin. Hope that helps!
In other news! I've updated the OP with all of the links that have been given. Boring and it took for ever but it's worth it in the long run. When I next have time I'll add a catalogue but I might have to do that over a few updates. If you have time, please check that my links work in case there is a mistake somewhere in the list.
Interesting, there isn't a standard for MDF. What one manufacturer calls Mdf may differ significantly from another manufacturer.
The MDF readily available in Australia all comes out of the one factory and is equivalent to the same thickness of pine board. (Or so the manufacturer states).
To paint MDF, I simply undercoat with a cheap grey primer from the local hardware store, for about $2 a 300 gramme spraypack. Then paint it however I want I have never sealed it with watered down PVA, and I have had some terrain pieces last for almost a decade.
As proof, here is my MAS apartment primed.
No detail was obscured in any way whatsoever, all the laser-etched panel lines stay dark without ink or wash.
Brushing on PVA seems like the LAST thing I'd do, you'd get blobs and runs and thin spots, not to mention the mess it would create.
Hmm, maybe the people that have had problems in the past have had the equivalent of a bad cast on a miniature. If that is the case then you should just prime them and if you have an issue on any of it you're probably entitled to send back the bad boards for a refund. It would probably be easier just to put down a couple more layers of primer in that situation though.
However you do, please post it up in some form. I think this thread could use a final word on the subject.
I found my MAS stuff just seemed to drink white primer - I had to prime either grey or black first, then spray over with white, otherwise the "grain" of the wood just shined straight through the white.
I don't know the reason - I just know the white primer just got soaked up by the MDF and pretty much disapeared, while the grey and black primer went on well.
As I say, I use the white for priming pretty much everything else (models, sand, metal, plastic, wood etc) and have never seen that before.
-Loki- wrote:How would Army Painter spray primer work? I've got a can at home and some of the old MAS holo ads I want to prime.
Also, would I need some brush on in the same colour to go over the edges? I've noticed the edges where they're laser cut are burned black.
Looks like it will work just fine:
Bolognesus wrote:Never had any problem using either army painter or even GW spray paints to prime mdf with TBH. Two light coats are preferable over one thick coat, that does make a bit of a difference.
-Loki- wrote: How would Army Painter spray primer work? I've got a can at home and some of the old MAS holo ads I want to prime.
Also, would I need some brush on in the same colour to go over the edges? I've noticed the edges where they're laser cut are burned black.
I've used AP Primer to great effect. I believe it's the best canned spray on the market, due to it being actual primer and not just spray paint.
Spray 6" from the surface in even strokes; don't linger too long on one area as it'll get too thick. Two coats are better than one. Do not spray too far away as AP spray cans produce a finer particulate than most normal spray paints, and that smaller paint particle will dry faster in the air if it's further away than 6-8" or so and you'll get fuzzy paint.
Not really terrain, but I thought this was a fair venue for Infinity tools as well.
Considering no-one in the industry has an order-pool manager, we decided to step in with a handy tool!
Introducing the SharkStand, the new order-managing, tablet-holding, token-toting wargaming tool available only at Shark Mounted Lasers.
Not only does it hold your tablet (Of any size over 7"-We've tested the lot of them) but also has two order pool managers, a token holder for 10 of your most utilized chits (1"), and between it acts as a troop carrier between tables/sides.
When unpacked, the entire unit is under an inch thick, and easily fits in your gamebag.
That's a really nice piece of kit actually. Very useful, I've been wondering why no one was offering something like this. Btw, does the tablet holder take a rulebook?
SharkMountedOne wrote: Not really terrain, but I thought this was a fair venue for Infinity tools as well.
Considering no-one in the industry has an order-pool manager, we decided to step in with a handy tool!
Introducing the SharkStand, the new order-managing, tablet-holding, token-toting wargaming tool available only at Shark Mounted Lasers.
Not only does it hold your tablet (Of any size over 7"-We've tested the lot of them) but also has two order pool managers, a token holder for 10 of your most utilized chits (1"), and between it acts as a troop carrier between tables/sides.
When unpacked, the entire unit is under an inch thick, and easily fits in your gamebag.
That's all laser-etched wood man! I don't know the maker, but the modeller who made it put LOTS of extra special touches on it, like the glass in the windows, etc. I think the surface is a Woodland Scenics vinyl grass mat painted? I dunno.
Vinyl flooring?
I've seen a nice grey sofltly speckled 'granite' type surface - you really have to look at the surface, and on a gaming table, you should be looking at the opponents figures and terrain instead - so it might be suitable.
As a birthday present from my fiancee, I'm getting these:
With these two being ordered very soon.
I'm aiming to have a very varied board rather than just apartments, I'll be adding the waste center and medical facility from Warmill plus some more apartments. Basically I want to be able to fill out a 6x4 board pretty dense with a small suburb area with the mass transit port, a few 'corner stores' with waste disposal, and the medical facility as a good objective room.
Nice haul, Loki! Make sure to post pictures of your progress! I like the idea of a crossroads of transport links, people travelling through from all over and lots of goods lying around ready to be shipped... or stolen.
Gah! Why`d you have to point it out? It looked so good, but now I can't unsee the wonky bench! You'd slide right off the darn thing, and you can forget about setting your shopping down on it.
The problem comes from the scale the terrain is made for and the the fact that it's MDF of the same thickness as the rest of the kit (since it's all cut from the same bit of MDF).
The only way around it is either cut it from thinner MDF so it can be curved tighter or cast a resin or metal peice, which gets expensive for fixing a pretty trivial issue.
I'd much prefer stuff like this than everything being right angles, so I don't mind.
That is fair, I sort of figured it was a technical rather than design issue and it still looks quite good. Curves are the way of the iFuture (Infinity/Anime/New Trek style) anyways, comfort and practicality is for the past. Not like the bus stop benches around here are much better anyways, plenty of them don't even have backs.
Just got word they've arrived. Not bad - 3 working days shipping. Unfortunately I don't get them for another couple of weeks as they're a birthday gift.
Just my luck. I go to buy the Food Booth and ORB 2.0 building... and Warmill have closed their store until the 7th of October.
So I'm buying some Sarissa stuff instead. Looking like it'll be the Warhouse and Warhouse pod, maybe even the Commercial pod.. I'll grab the Warmill stuff later.
edit - aaand bought. Warhouse and a Commercial pod with side access. I'll post pics of all this when it'd one - I aim to get it all built and painted quick smart so my friends and I can stop going to the store to play. I think these were a better buy than the Warmill stuff right now anyway. The Food Booth and Orb 2.0 are small enough to almost be scatter terrain. These give me two huge feth off LoS blocking buildings with interiors to move through. Later on I'll add a few more apartment buildings and the Food booth and Orb 2.0.
Painting them is my sticking point. I'm still deciding a scheme.
I want to do a Bourak themed town, with Earthy colours so it reflects the town at the start of Serenity, rather than the standard 'clean gray and white' I see everywhere. So I'm thinking any pavement/bases for buildings will be sprayed a tan colour, while the buildings will be a medium brown to let the laser etched details show through (dark brown will hide them).
Hey, So I previously posted some stuff about my foray into Laser cut terrain. I originally planned to just produce designs for myself. But The friendly people at Urban Lasercraft http://urbanlasercraft.com/ liked my stuff and they now produce and sell some of my laser cut designs.
So this is a shameless plug. But I think you may still like the look of their stuff.
My stuff SiFi Stuff is here. http://store.urbanlasercraft.com/scifiterrain.html
Kit linked in this blog post has 8 feet of fencing for $33 plus shipping. The picture shows nylon tulle as the mesh for the fence itself, and you can get a LOT of tulle for cheap and build the frame/fence posts yourself out of brass or plastic rod
So I got some of my stuff today, the rest hasn't arrived yet.
The BP Laser stuff is very nice - and doesn't come on a frame! It's laser cut into the exact shapes with no cutting needed. However, they provide no instructions and there's lots of bits.
The stuff I got from BP Laser basically builds into 3 peices. The base, the building walls, and the roof. I know I can spray prime the bits fine, but would it be a good idea to build those sections before priming, or just prime it all as separate peices before building?
Are the roofs going to be removable? If they are anything like the MAS buildings i'd assemble them, except the roof, and then prime those bits separately.
Yes, the roof has little tabs to hold it in place but I want it to be removable. I also want the base removable for easier storage. So I'm thinking I should construct it into those 3 parts, and prime them like that.
Finally got around to building the apartments after doing ridiculous work hours for the last few weeks plus lots of stuff because I'm moving and getting a new house built.
Just make sure that you mask off the inside of those window edges IF you want the acrylic window panes to fit in. They are a really tight fit after painting.
I'm planning on leaving the windows out. I'm not a fan of the acrylic inserts, and I want the interiors of the buildings to be used. The windows make great cover points. Plus opens up the cinematic gameplay when someone dives headlong through a window while being shot at.
-Loki- wrote: I'm planning on leaving the windows out. I'm not a fan of the acrylic inserts, and I want the interiors of the buildings to be used. The windows make great cover points. Plus opens up the cinematic gameplay when someone dives headlong through a window while being shot at.
No... No... No... You're doing it all wrong! "Cinematic gameplay" comes from rolling a d6...
-Loki- wrote: I'm planning on leaving the windows out. I'm not a fan of the acrylic inserts, and I want the interiors of the buildings to be used. The windows make great cover points. Plus opens up the cinematic gameplay when someone dives headlong through a window while being shot at.
No... No... No... You're doing it all wrong! "Cinematic gameplay" comes from rolling a d6...
Valete,
JohnS
Those are Infinity models. They use a D20.
20 is more than 6, so it will be even more cinematic!
They're not going to be the primary central LoS blockers. I have the Sarissa Commercial Pod and Warehouse for that. The houses and transit stop, plus a few choice buildings from Warmill, are going to be outlying terrain.
Mostly it's because I'm just not a big fan of the acrylic inserts, so leaving them out keeps some internal building combat possible. It's nice and easy to lift the roof and levels off, and easy enough to blu-tac a marker where any potential models on top were.
After putting together the Sarissa Commercial Pod (and doing part of it slightly wrong, but oh well), I've noticed that aesthetically the terrain I have doesn't really match up. The BPLaser buildings are great, and so are the Sarissa buildings, but they definitely look like they're from different manufacturers. So I've decided to do two sets of terrain!
I'm going to buy some more BPLaser buildings and combined them with Warmill Street Wars buildings like the Medical Center, Food Booths and ORBs to create an urban sprawl set, and then a second set using all Sarissa Precision terrain to make an isolated outpost type set.
FWIW, I just picked up some of the Spartan stuff (Towers and Platforms) and various MAS pieces from the Spikeybits sale going on right now. These were the lowest I've seen either of those manufacturers before.
And now I'm trying not to go pick up pieces from about 10 other companies as well. Holy crap there is a lot of great stuff in this thread.
Yes we are almost spoiled for choice these days! The plus side is that it's never been easier to make a table full of cool looking terrain, although you have to be careful not to go mental and end up emptying your wallet on some of this stuff!
Please post some pics when you get to work SavageRobby, will be good to see what the Spartan stuff looks like.
I was just looking at Warmill's site - some great stuff there. But three of the kits I wanted to get (Food Shack, Bio-Vending and the Sat-Links) all gave me a pop-up message saying they were unavailable. I shot them a message, but anyone else have experience with ordering directly from Warmill?
Edit: in a burst of amazingly fast customer service, they already answered. They had to source a new supplier for acrylic and they'll be restocking the acrylic products when they get back early in January. So, not only great looking products, but excellent communication as well.
Hey, Dexter from Shark Mounted Lasers here with some previews of some really snazzy stuff in the works!
Lemme know what else you'd like to see, such as shapes or whatnot!
These are incredibly sturdy, I can stand on them with no damage! All without even having to glue them- I'm excited to start getting them out to you guys for your skirmishing pleasure.
Make sure to check out our Facebook page at www.facebook.com/sharkmountedlasers for curve by curve updates!
Looks very nice, but needs a balcony and roof kit. Railings for when your using them as balconies and a nice curved topper for that aesthetically pleasing top roof
Jefffar wrote: Looks very nice, but needs a balcony and roof kit. Railings for when your using them as balconies and a nice curved topper for that aesthetically pleasing top roof
This is a good point and correct. Looking at it now the building just stops at the top of the wall. There's no roof or balcony.
I have to agree - the INFINITY market HAS to be be bigger outside of the USA.
I sadly know this as it is nearly impossible to find a game in my area, and it looks as if I'll really only ever be able to play in ITS tournaments that I'll have to plan a roadtrip to attend!
Alpharius wrote: I have to agree - the INFINITY market HAS to be be bigger outside of the USA.
I sadly know this as it is nearly impossible to find a game in my area, and it looks as if I'll really only ever be able to play in ITS tournaments that I'll have to plan a roadtrip to attend!
I'm lucky that we have small community in my area (Metro DC), but it can be a challenge to find time. This is the main reason I own as many starters as I do so I can grow the community with some friends.
Hey guys! Sorry for the lack of replies, I've been hard at work to actually get these on the website before school starts back up!
That being said, I'll address some of the points brought up here now.
Pacific wrote:That's really surprising.. SharkMountedOne, I'm sure there would be a market for these in Europe (and Aus of course!)
You're absolutely correct! I get emails all the time from individuals seeking terrain overseas- but there is one huge problem- shipping costs!
I've scoured every option I could, but it seems every for me to actually get product out of the country is going to run at-least $80!!
That being said, I'm still looking for a good way to get it to you, it's just difficult to achieve such.
SlaveToDorkness wrote:Nice, but Dear God you need some railings on those balconies!
This comrades, is on purpose for a variety of reasons!
First of all, it allows the buildings to stack flush to one another- No longer are buildings limited to putting a smaller building on top. Any buildings can fit atop the flat surface. On top of that, it also allows buildings to span over the top of multiple buildings. In our playtests, this has really expanded the variety and "shinyness" of our tables.
Secondly, in the Colorado meta (we have the largest playerbase outside of europe) we've got tired of all the roofs providing cover! This has become a problem in some cases, because people will purposefully "camp" their miniatures atop roofs, prone. This makes it highly order intensive to actually be able to complete ITS objectives- or impossible in some cases. Of course, this is a valid tactic, and I'm not downplaying it- but what's wrong with a little variation in the table environment.
Third, as I mention above, variety!!! When you look outside your house, or go downtown, does every building have a balcony? (Most likely) Nope! Especially for more modern architecture. Why shouldn't our gaming tables reflect a more encompassing urban environment? If you're really looking for cover on roofs, you can always adorn the tops of buildings with scatter terrain, such as potters or A/C units.
Also, remember that going prone on a rooftop offers you cover from enemies firing from below!
Aye, I'm trying to get it down to around $50. The sheer magnitude of it requires a lot of cut time and materials. That being said, it's over 16", so well worth it comparatively.
Hey guys, I've been working my tail off between order fulfillment and university, but I decided it was about time for an image dump haha!
Check out some of the shiny stuff coming your way soon!
Street Tiles! (With options for sewer systems underneath!)
The train as it comes along! (Soon with full railyard including crate cranes and such)
Next building line is slowly coming together. Elevated highway can be seen in background.
Forklifts!
Crates and other plastic scatter terrain (Won't even kill your budget!) Very WIP in this picture.
And finally, some really cool work is coming together for our new line of Wargaming Stencils! WIP
Hey everyone! It's Dex from SML. Sorry for the lack of updates, it's been hectic finishing up my undergrad, but as of last sunday, that objective is complete.
That being said, there are some pretty cool updates coming down the pipes.
First of all, in case you didn't know, the roads that I posted up earlier are now available on www.sharkmountedlasers.com Ya'll should check out the website, as I just updated it this weekend. It has a much cleaner feel now, and isn't worthless on mobile.
Here's a preview of an upcoming series of buildings for our "Neo-Tokyo" set!
Uncanny, I was just designing the layout for a 4x4 Neo-tokyo board yesterday! Too bad that shipping this stuff over the pond is so blinking expensive :(
Yeah, I'm trying to figure our why shipping some flat pack MDF is so expensive for you. I've ordered flat pack MDF terrain from the UK with only a 5 quid shipping fee.
Is it just the US has insane shipping charges? I've ordered from the US for other stuff and the only thing that's cost me a lot was foam, and that's because it made a huge, bulky box.
Siygess wrote:Uncanny, I was just designing the layout for a 4x4 Neo-tokyo board yesterday! Too bad that shipping this stuff over the pond is so blinking expensive :(
The ultimate tease really hahaha. Yeah, I've spent months trying to find cheaper alternatives to get it across the pond with little luck. Potentially down the road as I expand, I might seek out a European distributor, but right now it's not economically solvent to do that.
-Loki- wrote:Yeah, I'm trying to figure our why shipping some flat pack MDF is so expensive for you. I've ordered flat pack MDF terrain from the UK with only a 5 quid shipping fee.
Is it just the US has insane shipping charges? I've ordered from the US for other stuff and the only thing that's cost me a lot was foam, and that's because it made a huge, bulky box.
As for how it's so expensive, honestly, I have no bloody clue why the United States is baned with obnoxious shipping rates. The deathknell really came a few years ago when they got rid of slow boat shipping. Now every major delivery service does airmail exclusively including USPS. After months of searching for a cheaper alternative, I just stuck with USPS and called it a day because it wasn't going any where.
On top of that, I've had some of my international posts arrive in barbaric condition with entire sections of the box ripped off and hodge podged back together again.
The U.S. is just set on being an import economy haha.
That's a shame. I was ready to drop quite a bit of money on some of this, and I know I'm not alone on this side of the pond.
Munster had a good idea above - there's plenty of terrain laser cutters around the place - UK, NZ, Australia. Ever thought about partnering with one to get your product to the rest of the world?
I've followed this thread with interest and taken much inspiration from it's pages that I will use in the future when I get around to building more terrain.
In the mean time, I realised that Infinity tables appears to have quite a lot of small scatter terrain pieces and I thought that I'd plug some boxes that I have for sale.
Carved to represent wooden boxes and cast in resin. The sprue is also carved to represent wood so that it's not wasted.
I have designed them to be made from their separate walls so that they can be modified to be broken boxes or stacked cleverly to represent more boxes than you have (by only showing the outer walls) or even filled with things (to represent ammo dumps and the like).
These are also designed to match 28mm scale. The various sizes and combinations of the finished boxes allow for a variety of "cover saves" or LoS blocking.
Box 1 (medium) - 26x25x22mm (l, w, h) when constructed.
Box 2 (small) - 18x19x23mm (l, w, h) when constructed.
Box 3 (large) - 22x22x35mm (l, w, h) when constructed.
As you receive them:
And examples of what you can do with them:
PM me if you are interested, or check my trade thread here on DD.
I also have scale toilets for sale.
Dr H, did you make those shack walls just off the sprues? Ive seen a thread around here somewhere of a guy who did it with regular sprues that he just had to cut and detail, but that looked very time consuming. Also it does look like someones dropped a nuke in those toilets.
rahxephon wrote: Dr H, did you make those shack walls just off the sprues? Ive seen a thread around here somewhere of a guy who did it with regular sprues that he just had to cut and detail, but that looked very time consuming. Also it does look like someones dropped a nuke in those toilets.
Yeah that was me. The boxes were originally sculpted the same way.
yeah, well that toilet is based on those from Fallout 3, so "nuke" is a very apt word.
Red Harvest wrote:Brilliant idea, making the sprue 'wood'.
Thanks. That came about due to my use of "normal" sprue in my model making, which ultimately led to my building the Hut almost entirely from sprue.
Many comments I had were about how nice it worked, but looked like a lot of work to do themselves. So I thought, if I was going to be selling things on my own sprue, why not make it useful to start with and there would be a lot less wastage in other people's modelling.
Now, we need to talk the Dr. into building a dropship
Maybe one day, but I have to work up to that via the rest of the bathroom, more boxes and I do plan to make a kit to build a hut similar to mine. Progress is sadly slow though.
Pacific wrote:A wooden dropship?
Very nice Dr H, a nice change to a lot of the more sci-fi focused releases.
Thanks. Whatever the setting; past, future, terrestrial or alien. Wooden boxes will always fit in. I have many potential designs for other boxes (and other things) that I will get around to eventually, just thought that I would start with something more universal first.
Anyway, to get on topic, I've been slowly making progress on some of the buildings for my Bourak table. See the progress, updated earlier this week, by clicking the red harvest banner in my sig. And feel free to leave C&C.
Not sure if I should have created a new thread, or if this suits my needs.
If not, I apologize.
Just got my big box of terrain and materials on the front door. I bought about 10 sheet of the Plastcraft. It's made from PVC, but it feels like a cushion but still durable.
Anyone make anything with these?
Plan on making a store front or small plaza with them and then start using them for my bunker flooring.
Wish the had more variety of sizes of hex patterns. Something a lot smaller and larger.
They physical quality seems like an x-acto knife will cut through them with several slight passes.
NOT quite as easily as it would through foamcore - and it WILL take the edge off the blades faster, but it cuts easily.
I've got a couple of their modular building packs. None of the rounded ones, and FLGS hasn't got the new bourak stuff yet.
Glues readily with superglue (PLASTIC glue WILL NOT WORK unless it's also a PVC adhesive) but be warned, the superglue will take pretty much immediately, so repositioning stuff after you apply glue probably isn't going to happen without damage.
It's not recommended.
PVA is best for porous things like wood or paper. I tried using pva to hold some foamcore internal walls in place in my buildings.
The glue dried fine, but as soon as I moved it, it let go. As in, I picked the building up to see if it took. If you can't pack it away for transport without it falling apart, then the bond is a fail.
You don't need a lot of superglue, either. A couple of small drops at each join will do the job.
Get over your dislike of superglue for this - or your stuff won't hold together very well. It's about the ONLY foam that won't melt from the stuff.
think I am going to score the back and use liquid nails or resin cement.
wonder if I can dip it in hot water (shower temp?) to help aid it when I need to bend it.
It bends by it self fairly easily, but I want to give it more form when I glue it.
Cutting it with a band saw leaves rough edges just like pvc pipe, unlike the plastic sheets from ever green. But should not be a problem, I plan on bevel cutting the edges. Perhaps leaving the rough edge will be more beneficial when gluing?
Should I give it a light cleaning first?
and should I give it a light sanding before priming? Will primer bond well to it? Are there primers I should avoid causing it to melt?
I undercoated mine with an etching auto primer - so apart from a light wipe over first off, it needed no cleaning (oh, PEEL off the clear plastic protective sheeting on the stuff, too. It's to stop the surface getting scuffed up in transit). No melting that I have seen. This ISN'T styrene foam. It needs SERIOUS solvents to damage it (like MEK or ACETONE/MEK cocktails used by plumbers).
You can use hot water, but it really doesn't need it. It's not like styrene in that regard (where you form the curves with hot water and plunge in cold to set them).
If using an epoxy adhesive, scuff up any areas you want the glue to hold to - epoxies love surface area - as much as superglues do.
If you cut it with a bandsaw, you need a slow speed and preferably a watercooled blade (AND a very fine toothed blade - high tpi count) and you'll still need to sand the edges back - it's a side effect of the way those saws cut. The slow speed and watercooling are to prevent it burning from the cutting process - because burning this stuff is bad).
So far all I've done is get the peices off the frame, and it has been the worst Infinity terrain experience I've gone through. This building has so many peices, little connectors and other gubbins that I cannot possibly see as being needed for the structural integrity of the building. It's just loony.
Also, some of the peices looked like they were cut all the way through, but when I tried snapping them off, some were damaged because the laser cut wasn't through entirely, and not even on the holding tabs. Like, whole lengths of a peice came away with massive amounts of wood flash.
On top of that, some very fiddly bits were placed so close to others that one bit outright broke.
This will be the first and last MAS building I buy.
I snapped a wall piece at the thin bit over the door for the MAS apartment building, trying to fit it together, but after a few moments swearing and a few minutes repairing with PVA, you'd be hard pressed to see the break. Of the terrain I've tried so far, the MAS stuff is certainly the hardest to build but does look pretty cool when done.
I just got some in the mail today in hopes making some enlarged casts of some toy cars that fit within the infinity universe (in style) but are far too small to actually use.
Guys, hoping someone can help; does anyone know which company it was that made the 'TAG hanger' ? Sure I remember seeing one a while ago, although it's possibly a figment of my imagination!
I need one that will fit a Maghariba (without it having to squeeze out sideways) so might wait to see what the Sarissa and Antenociti ones turn out like!
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Whaa!? 
