The army list builder built into the SM edex does not allow the medic to take any wargear.

Really? Wow that suck, oh well that is one less grav gun in my army, but im sure 10 grav guns is still enough. and it is one less I have to try to make/get

@schadenfreude

40K has less than 100 slots to go (out of 256) and ticket sales have really picked up this month for whatever reason. We've been selling a few a day.

Get dim tickets fast!




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Also, Warmachine and Hordes has REALLY picked up now that we're 95% likely to be a Warmachine Weekend qualifier and Store War event.

Here is a preview what the LVO WM trophy will look like. There will be one for 1st-3rd for each tournament along with a BIG one for the overall champion of the weekend (most tournament wins). They will be multi-depth resin toppers on a plinth base that will hold the tournament coins. They will be colored according to place and nicely weathered!

That looks awesome, Menelker, well done!

I'm in. Looking forward to showing you colonials a thing or two

Though I'm on the fence about staying at Ballys. I was there a few years ago and it was just about the worst hotel experience I've ever had, and that includes comparing it to the 'establishments' I stayed at in Nairobi.

 The Everliving wrote:
I'm in. Looking forward to showing you colonials a thing or two

Though I'm on the fence about staying at Ballys. I was there a few years ago and it was just about the worst hotel experience I've ever had, and that includes comparing it to the 'establishments' I stayed at in Nairobi.

Come on. You would be doing Reecius a favor. Besides I need to be able to hang out with some east coast players.

Jay_Daboyz wrote:

 The Everliving wrote:
I'm in. Looking forward to showing you colonials a thing or two

Though I'm on the fence about staying at Ballys. I was there a few years ago and it was just about the worst hotel experience I've ever had, and that includes comparing it to the 'establishments' I stayed at in Nairobi.

Come on. You would be doing Reecius a favor. Besides I need to be able to hang out with some east coast players.

I'm considering attending. Hoping Tyranid will be legal. I'll come cuddle with both of you.

Psh, I'll be there, and now I'm considered east coast. Unknown, yes, but still east coast. You should do it anyways, for the continuation of the LVO!

I love to Cuddle!

I glad a lot of east coast people are coming.

Mike I was also thinking Nids also, but unlike other armies forge World does nothing for them.

Jay_Daboyz wrote:
I love to Cuddle!

I glad a lot of east coast people are coming.

Mike I was also thinking Nids also, but unlike other armies forge World does nothing for them.

You could always ally with IG like everyone else... Oh wait...

Hey guys, thanks for coming! Very exciting to see so many East Coasters! I love to tease you guys so it will be funny when I get my butt handed to me by one of you in a game! haha

Nids will be good to go, yes, Mike, so bring them if you like! I sincerely hope they have an answer to the psychic deathstar lists =) We'll see, though. Happy to have you coming, Mike!

@The Everliving

Glad to have you! And we would greatly appreciate it if you stayed at the hotel, although it is of course, your choice. You get a free drink and a raffle ticket for a fully painted army if you stay at the hotel and register the room in your name, though!

@Garner

You are a West Coaster to me, buddy!

@Jay

Glad you're coming! Da Boyz looked awesome this year! I watched the video you made and man, what a beautiful venue. We definitely want to come out next year, that looks amazing. And, someone needs to knock Pajama Pants down a peg or two!

Hey, are you going to have any cool new battlemats in play and/or for sale at the LVO?

I understand the benefit to you of staying at the hotel. I'll call them and see if the management has changed since '08. If it has I'll stay there.

I'm looking forward to the lower point environment, should be able to wrap up games quickly and hit the tables between rounds

This is going to be epic. Almost got the wifey talked into being my doubles partner should I somehow not go 5-0 on Fri/Sat.

 The Everliving wrote:
Vegas Nationals 2011 was awesome

Agreed on the awesomeness. I met the legendary Reece and played a game against Ragnar. I remember you CSM guys but did not get matched up with any of you. Kopach getting a hard time during the awards was hilarious. At least I think we are both talking about the same event...

 Janthkin wrote:
Hey, are you going to have any cool new battlemats in play and/or for sale at the LVO?

I was wondering this, too, as getting them at a Con you could avoid the hefty shipping charge. Could be win-win

If you have some with you at AdeptiCon I'd probably spring for one!

Man!!! sounds like their will be a plethora of top-notch, east coasters coming over. This is going to be a PARTY! I will need to start playing again and maybe even read some of these new Coedices I have been hearing so much about.

6th still only uses 6 sided dice correct? I'm sure you nice east landers will just help me figure things out as the game plays out.

Is the White scars Captain Biker a good stand in for Khan?

@Janthkin

We hope to! The Kickstarter is going well, so that should be possible!

@The Everliving

Thanks for staying at the hotel, it helps us out a ton!

And yeah, we run 2.5 hour rounds at 1750, we think we should have a high completion ratio. We also plan on testing out a system that let's players know what turn they should be on as we go.

@Bladewalker

That was an awesome event and a big inspiration for the LVO! Good to meet you, too and I am hardly legendary, infamous at best! haha

@RiTides

We can hook you up with your mat at the con, and refund you shipping, for 100%!!

We funded!!! so cool!

@Hotsauce

Yes!

Check out this awesome art Goatboy made for the LVO! What we are using it for though, shall remain a secret! muahaha!





Also, I was in Vegas last week briefly and snapped a pic of the hall. It's HUGE! The pic below does it no justice. I could only get a part of it in frame, it is giant! The BAO hall was 7,000sqft, this is more than double that and it will be so awesome to see it full with gaming!

But, it has carpeted floors which is great for keeping sound levels down and for ease on the old knees! The hall is ginormous, 15,000+ square feet of what will be gaming awesomeness! Also, the hall is away from the main gambling area, so it won't be crowded which will be nice.

Oh noes! That floor will swallow dice up by the bucket. Busy floor carpet designs are bad mojo for dropped dice. If I was frontline, I would be selling dice on the side...

All a part of our devious plan! Muaha!

Just kidding, we have (obviously) no control over the color of the carpet, we're just glad there's some there! Concrete can be painful to stand on all day.

Dont worry, I will bring dye for the carpet, I doupt few people use pink dice.

Looks like a great venue. Looking forward to the event!

Thanks, Nick! It is going to be a blast, we are going all out on this event!

@HotSauce

Actually 2 guys on our team use pink dice, haha!

Hey Reece - any updates on the Malifaux tournament? The placeholder page remains pretty sparse on details. (I think the wife & I are going to transition that way; trying to teach her 40k at this point is just too crazy.)

Well, just bought my plane tickets. Yeah, so pumped. Gonna take my Iron Warriors out for a spin, so Frankie doesn't drool on my models again (Also, transport for those darn things via plane just won't work, I wish my TW minicase was going to be in by then).

 Janthkin wrote:
Hey Reece - any updates on the Malifaux tournament? The placeholder page remains pretty sparse on details. (I think the wife & I are going to transition that way; trying to teach her 40k at this point is just too crazy.)

I will ask Mack to give us an update! He said they'd plug us in Wyrd's media.

@Garner

Nice! Can't wait to have you, buddy. Going to be a great event!

We got the room rate down to $79 a night! BOOM!

Book your room here: https://aws.passkey.com/g/20074284

The rate hasn't been updated on the site yet, but it will be so on MONDAY. If you already booked, you will be credited at the event for the difference! And that is for Friday and Saturday night.

We've got your backs!

i just tried to book, at it is charging the same

Garrett, read my post above, all of it, and then get back to me ;-)

Oh, Ok. The lady told me to call back monday when the rate should change

Sweet. I will add that to the update (should have done so in the first place, haha)

Well that is just if I understood her right. But we will see come monday

It's a done deal, got the executed contract in my hand today, but the site hasn't been updated yet. I was just super pumped to tell everyone that they're saving $60 chucks a night on the room!

MORE FOR THE CASINOS!!!!!

Room rates updated: https://aws.passkey.com/g/20074284

Just FYI, just so I can say how much I love you all.
Pre W/o your room thingie It cost me 422$
When I put it in with your code? 550
Now with reduced rate? 312 for four nights.
You guys may get a beer from me.

I will gladly accept said beer!

And we're happy to hook our attendees up with the best deals we can. =)

Reece, have you decided whether or not there will be rules adjustments (other than "No Escalation/Stronghold Assualt" and allies changes) for the Main 40K event? My local shop is making their monthly tournament an "LVO Prep Event", so I'd like to help them be sure their rules match what's going to be run.

I couldn't find this information on the FLG site yet, and the threads here, as last updated, say it's still an up-in-the-air thing. I'm mainly wondering about possible 2++ changes and other things discussed in your poll.

Thanks!

That's super cool your local is doing an LVO prep! Nice one, if you have any pics of the event and want to do a quick write up, send them my way and we will post them on FLG.

As for your rules questions, per our poll, we have the following addendum to our format (which you can see the changes reflected in the 40K packet rules and FAQ):

1.) We're not using Stronghold, Escalation or Data Slates for LVO (but we're open to changing that for future events)
2.) We're limting the amount of factions in a list to 2 (so, White Scars+ Ultramarines, or Tau+Eldar, or Inquisition+Space Wolves, but no Imperial Guard+Space Wolves+Inquisition for example).
3.) We did get a majority vote for and implemented the change of any type of 2+ save that is rerollable, is failed on the reroll of a 1, 2 or 3, not just a 1.

If you have any further questions, just ask.

Cheap flights to Vegas on Allegiant air right now! I have seen round trip flights on this site for under $100!

Look at smaller airports, too, not just the bigger ones.

Hey Reecius, is there anymore spots still open for the 40k Singles Championships?

Yes, there is, sir!

Tickets have been selling fast lately but we still have a good amount of room left. I highly recommend grabbing your ticket sooner than later, though.

Got my ticket last week, looking forward to my first trip to vegas.

Booked my hotel. Sweet rate.

Jea, I took it up with the fam and they seem on board with me going as long as they got stuff to do which it seems that by the social events you've planned seems they would. So yea I'll be looking into getting a ticket soon

@Thanatos & TheJugHead

See you there!

@Dezstiny

We for 100% are going to be friendly for non-gaming people coming with you! Our goals is for everyone to have fun and want to keep coming back!

Hey Reecius... my sister and fiancée is coming with us.

What's the policy for "visitors" to see what's the fuss is all about with these tournys? During a downtime, or before the day is kicked off, I'd like to give the ladies a tour.

@Whembly

You have to have a Con Badge to get into the venue. We will have people at the door to enforce that, too, FYI. We need to be able to control who comes in and out as I am sure you can imagine, Vegas can get a little chaotic without methods of control in place =)

Plus side, the con badge is only $15 and it means you get to be involved with all of the social events, too!

 Reecius wrote:
@Whembly

You have to have a Con Badge to get into the venue. We will have people at the door to enforce that, too, FYI. We need to be able to control who comes in and out as I am sure you can imagine, Vegas can get a little chaotic without methods of control in place =)

Plus side, the con badge is only $15 and it means you get to be involved with all of the social events, too!

Thanks... I can definitely swing the $15 for con badges... can we buy 'em onsite?

So who wants to be gutsy with me and stay on the haunted floors of the hotel :-)

@Whembly

Yes, sir! We'd prefer it to be bought ahead of time for record keeping but we will sell them on site.

@Hot-sizzle

The haunted floor? I'm gong to change your name to Johnny Dangerously!

Haunted floor? Which is that?

I don't know, but if I don;t see some spooky ghosts, I'm gong to be very disappointed! haha

Me too. When I go to check in, I'm going to request it.

History lesson Time. in the 80s Ballys was the MGM grand, due to poor fire regulations a fire started and those on the top floors could not leave, killing them. The land was torn down and Ballys was built. Supposedly there are ghost on the 18+ floors, you can see them fade in and out of walls, hear moaning from rooms, and apprently electrical stuff.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
History lesson Time. in the 80s Ballys was the MGM grand, due to poor fire regulations a fire started and those on the top floors could not leave, killing them. The land was torn down and Ballys was built. Supposedly there are ghost on the 18+ floors, you can see them fade in and out of walls, hear moaning from rooms, and apprently electrical stuff.

Ya... It's Vegas, so the moaning from rooms really isn't all that uncommon...

How do you explain the people running through the hall with their dresses on fire?

 OverwatchCNC wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
History lesson Time. in the 80s Ballys was the MGM grand, due to poor fire regulations a fire started and those on the top floors could not leave, killing them. The land was torn down and Ballys was built. Supposedly there are ghost on the 18+ floors, you can see them fade in and out of walls, hear moaning from rooms, and apprently electrical stuff.

Ya... It's Vegas, so the moaning from rooms really isn't all that uncommon...

Hahaha

@Hot Sizzle

Moaning and dresses on fire are all pretty much par for the course in Vegas.

I had a naked dude accidentally come in to my Girlfriend and my room one time at the Flamingo, singing about how much he loved Pizza! Haha, gotta be ready for any kind of craziness!

That isn't normal of course, but it made for a really funny story afterwords!

Lul still, Im requesting the haunted rooms......Maybe I can get an even LOWER rate

Go get em, buddy! Leave no prisoners!!!!

I am also at least 47% drunk after celebrating our KS!!

w00t!!

I stayed at Bally's a couple of days ago and it was my favorite hotel of the 4 I stayed at.

A few notes: Do not order the nachos at the Mexican restaurant if you are by yourself. It comes on a giant platter and I only got 25% in before I had to tap out.

Also they had a breakfast buffet that was ok, but it was only $12 (which is low for Vegas these days).

This may be a stupid question, but buying tickets for side events? Like lets say i get some free time and want to do the Zombie or beerhammer? Will tickets be sold there for that stuff?

@Blackmoor

Good tips, thanks!

@Hotsauce

Yes, we anticipate a lot of folks will be buying side event tickets on the fly and we will be able to accommodate that.

Thanks.

Just bought my plane ticket!!!!!1111

My wallet isn't happy about it, but I sure as hell am! See everyone down there!

I will be in vegas for this, and I want to attend the zombie mini game,

anyone know how strict the time line is? my flight wont touch down till 20 min before the min-zombie game starts, if I just want to have fun and play and dont care about winning/points do you see an issue with maybe arriving a few minutes late for the mini game?

@Hippesthippo

Awesome! See you there, buddy!

@Easysauce

You shoul dbe good to go, the Zombie Game is very laid back and "beer and Pretzels" style. You can jump in and have fun without being there from the start.

@Thread

The group rate on the rooms only lasts until January 8th! Don't wait to get those rooms.

 Reecius wrote:
@Hippesthippo

Awesome! See you there, buddy!

@Easysauce

You shoul dbe good to go, the Zombie Game is very laid back and "beer and Pretzels" style. You can jump in and have fun without being there from the start.

@Thread

The group rate on the rooms only lasts until January 8th! Don't wait to get those rooms.

so awesome to hear! thanks reccius, looking forward to this mini event, and will be hopfully heading down with a full army next year.

Awesome, we look forward to having you! The Zombie Game is a blast, you will like it. We've made over 300 Zombies for it!

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
History lesson Time. in the 80s Ballys was the MGM grand, due to poor fire regulations a fire started and those on the top floors could not leave, killing them. The land was torn down and Ballys was built. Supposedly there are ghost on the 18+ floors, you can see them fade in and out of walls, hear moaning from rooms, and apprently electrical stuff.

Here is my person encounter. I went alone on this trip so i got the room all to myself. make the long story shot. I was suppose to be there for Conquest but got cancel last min so i change some stuff around and went there for fun.

1) I smell smoke at night. is a background smell so you can't tell what kind of smoke.

2) I was watching Lock Up on msnbc and drafting in/out and saw someone ran to the window and jump off. he/she pay no attention to me.

I chat with a staff after and he said that happen but they don't talk about it . he said if I want to change room just ask the front desk. it happen so often that the front desk knows what going on and they will not ask me why. The story goes is that 18+ is haunted 23 is the most haunted. North Tower only. He got a lot of stories on what guests encounter. O btw they never rebuild it they just remodel it and put more building and stuff.

Supposedly only some people can actually see ghosts so it's not like everyone would have the same experience.

 Dozer Blades wrote:
Supposedly only some people can actually see ghosts so it's not like everyone would have the same experience.

Supposedly Ghosts are/are not real so ymmv

Also with the copious amounts of legal, and illegal, substances being used in Vegas I am not surprised people hallucinate people jumping out of windows.

 OverwatchCNC wrote:

 Dozer Blades wrote:
Supposedly only some people can actually see ghosts so it's not like everyone would have the same experience.

Supposedly Ghosts are/are not real so ymmv

Ghostbusters beg to differ.

I hope to get slimed while in Vegas and/or do battle with the Stay Puffed Marshmellow Man.

 Reecius wrote:
I hope to get slimed while in Vegas and/or do battle with the Stay Puffed Marshmellow Man.

Just don't get so wasted you forget the proper response to "Are you a god?"

SAY YES!

You say "No, but im friends with the devil"

Alright got my event tickets purchased and my room booked. Great way to start the new year; now to figure out if I want to fly or just make a road trip of it.

Awesome, see you there Panzer Leader!

@OverwatchCNC

haha, you have to answer that one right or Gozer wins!


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Also, the room rate is only valid through January 8th!

Only 2 more days on the group rate for the hotel! Don't miss out on that sweet rate!

https://aws.passkey.com/g/20074284

Las Vegas Open is a Warmachine Weekend Qualifier! http://warmachineweekend.com/invitational

@Reecius...

Do you guys have something planned for the significant others who don't play?

The chicks may wanna get together and have fun, while we pound the dice/beers.

 whembly wrote:
@Reecius...

Do you guys have something planned for the significant others who don't play?

The chicks may wanna get together and have fun, while we pound the dice/beers.

last time i check the website. LVO has shopping trip, spa, walking tour. It is Vegas so there are always Hover Dam and Canyon tour. haha, I don't work for Reecius so I can say there are also Bunny Ranch !!!. for swinging couple: Green Room just on the North of the strip is nice.

@Whembly

As Tyllon said, we have a lot of non-gamer events planned, one every day and at night, too!

Also,

The main events are filling up fast and tickets will soon be gone! Do not miss out.

We are well on the way to selling out here! Do not wait if you want to go to the LVO!

Warhammer 40K Championships: 22 tickets left
Warmachine and Hordes 3 Day Tickets: 19 tickets left
Warhammer Fantasy: 6 tickets left

It’s gonna be a good one!

- See more at: http://www.frontlinegaming.org/2014/01/08/las-vegas-open-is-approaching-sold-out/#sthash.PCxCkhsU.dpuf

40K: 13 Tickets left

Fantasy: 6 tickets left

Warmahordes: 10 Tickets left!

Im so excited nearly a month left.
Also, My cousin has given me a list of food places to vist

Finally got my tickets! See everyone there.

BTW, if I don't make it to the Finals on Sunday, I will be sorely disappointed.

Expect some awesome batreps to come!



BTW, no wife on this trip so I expect to be drunk like a skunk. Hey, if I could study for finals drunk, I bet I can sure as heck play 40K drunk....hmmm, maybe I ought to sign up for beerhammer as well....


BTW, too bad I can't do the Championships and Apoc at the same time. Otherwise, I'd probably have to try to find a way to take this bad boy along.

@Hotsauceman1

Awesome! Keno is stoked to go eat some prime rib, too!

@Jim

I expect you to make the finals!

Quick and stupid question.
Will you be bringing product? I may want to spend my Casino Winnings there

We will indeed have product there =)

@ jy2 - Good luck and best wishes for you mate ! I can't wait to read the batreps !!!

@ Reecius - Congrats for going to sell out !

: )

Thanks!

Ughhhhhhh I can't wait much longer! I haven't been this super stoked for an event since Duel Con 1 as that was my first tourney in the circuit. This is going to be of epic proportions.

Reece,

You know what you should do?

You should post a list of some of the who's-who of competitive tournament players or notable 40K internet personas who are going to be at the LVO.

 Dozer Blades wrote:
@ jy2 - Good luck and best wishes for you mate ! I can't wait to read the batreps !!!

@ Reecius - Congrats for going to sell out !

: )

Thanks man.

Can't wait to meet many of the players I just read about from the net.

Yeah, we can do that. We have a ton of top players coming.

And we are damn near out of tickets! Get them while you still can!

Damn near sold out!

Only 4 40K and 2 Fantasy spots left! Don't wait!

Reece,

I know you have stated that you would have a minimum of 2 LOS pieces for each table. On average how many pieces of non-LOS terrain do you expect to have for the LVO at each table.

Thanks.

That depends on how many we can make between now and then! Haha, but we are busting our asses right now to make as much terrain as possible. We are doing everything we can to add as many terrain pieces to each table as possible.

Looks like it's going to be a sellout for 40k! Congrats to Reece and Frontline!

Looking forward to next month.

Thanks! Yeah, it is going to be a blast! Can't wait.

You guys need help with terrain?

Always! You want to come by and make some terrain with us? If you do, FLG will buy your lunch =)

And By lunch you mean Kenos leftover table scraps right? : P
I will see when I can make it down.

Reece I want to call JY out first round!

Do it! I bet he's down!

I guess it is an official tournament Nick Rose is showing up.

Everyone knows who I want to call out. 8)

Darkwynn wrote:
Reece I want to call JY out first round!

I prefer that we play in the finals....but Sure, why not?


You think you can handle the new tyranids? Haha....actually, not sure what I'm going to bring yet.

 Reecius wrote:
Do it! I bet he's down!

Are we doing round 1 grudge matches!? My traditional grudge match opponent isn't going to be there now I am a sad Panda...

We love Grudge matches here, are you kidding?! Haha, that is Frontline Gaming style all the way, we're happy to oblige.

If anyone wants an official call out, we can have a lot of fun with it and announce it on the PA system and such! haha, that would be good fun.

@Jy2
I think that would actually be very cool if you brought out Nids to be honest. You started that huge thread about how Nids aren't all that bad, I'd love to see you back that up so that way we will actually see Nid players in RTT's. If you end up doing well that will give many motivation to bring em out and play. Also that would definitely be another testament of your generalship if you could do well with them. There is only a couple of weeks left but If you could probably get 3 matches in each week for the next coupld of weeks you should probably be able to get an idea of how to play em. I know I played my GK/SW list 2-3x a week for amonth and half straight before I settled with the list I have now and I'm lovin them.

For sure, I hops someone can bring Nids out and win with them, so far our test games are so depressing.

I would call out Goatboy or Brent , is Brent even going(?), but that would be more so I could finally get to play one of them rather than just a grudge. I have missed getting to play either of them at the events we have all attended.

Goatboy is coming but I do not think Brent is (I actually don't know his last name so I wouldn't be able to check registration).

 Dugg wrote:
Everyone knows who I want to call out. 8)

I don't know you.

 Reecius wrote:
Goatboy is coming but I do not think Brent is (I actually don't know his last name so I wouldn't be able to check registration).

Ya I was talking to Gotaboy about it over email a few weeks ago, I also don't know Brent's last name... I suppose stalking Jawaballs all those years means you have to be somewhat anonymous...


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 Blackmoor wrote:

 Dugg wrote:
Everyone knows who I want to call out. 8)

I don't know you.

I have no one to call out :(

Hotsauceman1 I call you out! If I win you have to change that avatar.

? OK. But why?

@Kimchi

Lol!

@Doug

But then upon seeing your FW models, Blackmoor would spontaneously combust in a fit of nerd rage!

@Control

Call him out! That would be fun!

Anyone wanna call out your OT nemesis whembly?

Reece,
I'm gonna call out that punk, "P.B.R." (or some such handle). I'll finish him off by the time Beer Hammer is over, the cheap bastard. He's got a friend named Tecate (isn't that a lost, retconned DA character like Asmodai?) that I'll deal with on Saturday, too.

Can you arrange those match ups?

@Whembly

I think everyone is too scurred to take that challenge! =)

@Brotherkerose

I have beef with his buddy, Natty Ice. We';; take those punks down, together!

 Reecius wrote:
@Whembly

I think everyone is too scurred to take that challenge! =)

I'm such a sweet, gently bear... I won't bite*

*too hard

@Brotherkerose

I have beef with his buddy, Natty Ice. We';; take those punks down, together!

Let's form a posse... justice is required guys!

Looks like you'll have a FULL HOUSE! Cannot wait for this!

Man, I really need to try and get a couple games in before LVO. Has anything changed in the game in the last 4-6 months?

 Dugg wrote:
Man, I really need to try and get a couple games in before LVO. Has anything changed in the game in the last 4-6 months?

O.o

(my sarcas-o-meter is pinging)

Loads man... loads.

You're right... I need to practice too.

Calling out David Fay for round 1

Is Dave going? I thought he wasn't playing anymore, just focusing on the hobby side until his kids got a bit older.

I'm calling out Cooper's brother since he threw that pizza on the ground in my parking lot.

Yeah, he sold all his templars almost a year ago. Said he was moving to warmachine. Maybe he came back? That'd be cool.

 Dude_I_Suck wrote:
Yeah, he sold all his templars almost a year ago. Said he was moving to warmachine. Maybe he came back? That'd be cool.

I know he's been painting and building stuff. He has a pretty cool airbrush set up these days.

 Kimchi Gamer wrote:
I'm calling out Cooper's brother since he threw that pizza on the ground in my parking lot.

Ill bring him so you can settle the score. I'll let him know its a bare knuckle affair. You should definitely bring a bat.

I'm going to win with Nids...

 whitedragon wrote:
I'm going to win with Nids...

You going to the fantasy shop next Tuesday?

I need to practice...

I have a 40k Champ ticket I can't use. PM me if interested and we can work something out. Hope the event is awesome guys.

EDIT: Someone has dibs on it. Have fun all.

This has probably been mentioned somewhere else in this thread, but is there going to be open gaming available?

Open gaming will be available so long as there are open tables. Saturday will be packed, Friday and Sunday should be available for open gaming and the evenings as well.

Hey guys, I am doing a favor for a friend. He bought a ticket to the 40k Championships and it turns out he can't make it.

I know there has to be people over here that want to go and play in the main event, but can't because its sold out. If you are interested in buying this ticket off my friend, PM me and we can get the guys at Frontline to transfer the ticket.

Thanks guys! And see you in Vegas!

A tip of the hat and congratulations for the selling out of your event. Congrats to Reece and the rest of his team.

@Blake

See you there!

@Inq_Malice

Thanks! We're really excited for it!

 Big Nasty Blake - LAtCS wrote:
Hey guys, I am doing a favor for a friend. He bought a ticket to the 40k Championships and it turns out he can't make it.

I know there has to be people over here that want to go and play in the main event, but can't because its sold out. If you are interested in buying this ticket off my friend, PM me and we can get the guys at Frontline to transfer the ticket.

Thanks guys! And see you in Vegas!

I'll take that ticket

I'll call out Blackmoor if he's going to duck Dugg

I expect to go out early and hit the tables. Not bringing Forgeworld.

 The Everliving wrote:
I'll call out Blackmoor if he's going to duck Dugg

I expect to go out early and hit the tables. Not bringing Forgeworld.

All someone has to do is say that they are bringing Tryanids to the LVO and a line forms with people wanting to call you out.

 Blackmoor wrote:

 The Everliving wrote:
I'll call out Blackmoor if he's going to duck Dugg

I expect to go out early and hit the tables. Not bringing Forgeworld.

All someone has to do is say that they are bringing Tryanids to the LVO and a line forms with people wanting to call you out.

Most succinct review of the codex I've seen yet

Would be quite hilarious if Tyranids win it all. They are underrated and I could see it happening.

I cant wait. SQUEEEE.
Seriously, The ride is going to be awesome with iNcontrol and pascal. Well, I might just sleep through it

I can't wait for LVO!!!!! I will be surprising EVERYONE when you see the crazy new List I'm bringing. <pinky to mouth> Muhahaha!!!

Hmm... new list eh? I'm now intrigued.

I dunno, the tyranids could pull something out I think. They just require a little more finesse than they did before.

 Dude_I_Suck wrote:
Hmm... new list eh? I'm now intrigued.

I dunno, the tyranids could pull something out I think. They just require a little more finesse than they did before.

I think their flying circus list is good, but it has a few hard counters that will ruin their day.

Cant wait for LVO! May Russ bring the pain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, so much work left to do before LVO. Anyone else feeling the build/paint crunch creaping up on them?

*unrelated topic - It's amazing how many Orks you can fit in a Fortress of Redemption. haha that's a total joke opening there.

"How many Orks can you fit in a Fortress?" ... answer....

 Dugg wrote:
Yeah, so much work left to do before LVO. Anyone else feeling the build/paint crunch creaping up on them?

Not really... I have a special friend that is letting me borrow their bugs!

 Dugg wrote:
Yeah, so much work left to do before LVO. Anyone else feeling the build/paint crunch creaping up on them?
.

No, I finished along time ago. 22 bikes is enough

I would love to see Nids win LVO! Haha, that would be awesome.

Getting PUMPED! Working our asses off here but it is going to be fantastic!

Reecius are you guys bringing TableWar stuff to sell? I am looking for more trays for my case.

It is going to be a good time!

Doug and Todd will have the TableWar goodies there, yes.

And yeah, this is gong to be super fun, everyone at the shop has been banging out terrain every day and talking about how fun it;s going to be.

 Dugg wrote:
Yeah, so much work left to do before LVO. Anyone else feeling the build/paint crunch creaping up on them?

Yeah, since I decided to bring my Chaos Sisters instead of my Iron Warriors. Not a real competitive list, but kind of fun to play with. I have 2 squads to paint still, there is a positive note: my helbrutes are already finished.

 Dugg wrote:
Yeah, so much work left to do before LVO. Anyone else feeling the build/paint crunch creaping up on them?

*unrelated topic - It's amazing how many Orks you can fit in a Fortress of Redemption. haha that's a total joke opening there.

"How many Orks can you fit in a Fortress?" ... answer....

I am attempting to get some White Scars or Nurgle Daemons done in case Frontline Gaming isn't done with my Iyanden Eldar in time for me to do the details, insignia, and basing for the LVO.

I may be burning a lot of midnight oil soon since the White Scars aren't even all built yet and the Nurgle Daemons are no longer inspiring for me to work on!

TableWar will be there. You can order online and add "LVO" in the coupon at check out and we will drop the shipping. You can pick it up at our booth when you get there.

The online inventory should be restocked by close of today as well.


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Hey everyone. Whats the word on Youngbloods showing up to LVO? Anyone bringing their kids and younger brothers/sisters to play? I ask because my 12 y/o son will be there as well. He will be playing in the Zombie game and besides that he will be hanging out looking for pick up games.

question for reece:

does it matter what model I bring for the zombie mini game? or do I just choose the one that looks the best and we build rules for it on the spot or something?

 easysauce wrote:
question for reece:

does it matter what model I bring for the zombie mini game? or do I just choose the one that looks the best and we build rules for it on the spot or something?

Glad you are coming to Vegas. For the zombie game you can bring any 28mm infantry or 40mm infantry model. The plan is to have everyone make there character at home and bring with them the filled out character sheet which will go up today. If you are unable to deck your guy out at home no big deal you can do that at the event. Excited to see how people like the game.

 white925 wrote:

 easysauce wrote:
question for reece:

does it matter what model I bring for the zombie mini game? or do I just choose the one that looks the best and we build rules for it on the spot or something?

Glad you are coming to Vegas. For the zombie game you can bring any 28mm infantry or 40mm infantry model. The plan is to have everyone make there character at home and bring with them the filled out character sheet which will go up today. If you are unable to deck your guy out at home no big deal you can do that at the event. Excited to see how people like the game.

coolio sounds awesome! i look forward to seeing the character sheet, sounds awesome

Zombie Rules updated! http://www.frontlinegaming.org/las-vegas-open/las-vegas-open-zombie-survival-game/

Quick rule question for the 40k championship at LVO : what is your policy regarding Black Legion's artifacts

Do you consider that they all replace a weapon ? Or that only weapons-like artifact replace a weapon ? Or that they never replace a weapon ? Something else ?
You probably know that the ruling on those is unclear because the supplement says nothing about that, and that a lot of people have different opinion on that matter. So in doubt, I prefer to ask prior to the event.

Short version is : can I bring my DP with Spineshiver Blade and Skull of Ker'ngar ? (it's even converted so you actually see the blade and the skull).

Just signed up for Beerhammer! Been practicing my whole damn life. #drunkenconfidence #hashtagssuck

@Reecius

How are you going to play out Grav guns during the tournament? RAW or saves allowed?

 Dezstiny wrote:
@Reecius

How are you going to play out Grav guns during the tournament? RAW or saves allowed?

What does this question mean? Aren't they AP2?

 Kimchi Gamer wrote:

 Dezstiny wrote:
@Reecius

How are you going to play out Grav guns during the tournament? RAW or saves allowed?

What does this question mean? Aren't they AP2?

More likely referring to vehicles getting cover saves against glancing and penetrating hits. Neither of which are caused by Grav weaponry.

 Kimchi Gamer wrote:

 Dezstiny wrote:
@Reecius

How are you going to play out Grav guns during the tournament? RAW or saves allowed?

What does this question mean? Aren't they AP2?

Correct, but against vehicles on a 6 a Grav weapon doesn't cause a glancing or penetrating hit, so RAW no cover saves can be taken against it as cover saves for vehicles are only taken in the event of a penetrating or glancing hit. RAI I think you get the save. Be advised I plan on bringing White Scars or Eldar so I am taking the least powerful position which could potentially hurt me, I am much more of a RAI than RAW player normally and this case isn't an exception.

LVO FAQ is here

http://www.frontlinegaming.org/community/40k-faq/

"Kairos Fateweaver’s Staff of Tomorrow does not allow him to re-roll the end of the game roll, Night Fight rolls on turns 5+, or a D6 that was originally rolled by the opponent."

Too funny I think I remember the battle report in which this happend


On a side note:

"When using the Dark Excommunication psychic power, the following sections from pages 61-69 of the Chaos Daemons codex are counted as Daemonic Gifts; Ranged Weapons, Melee Weapons, Daemonic Attributes, Icons & Instruments, Hellforged Artifacts, Daemonic Rewards, Daemonic Loci, and Daemonic Psychic Powers. Additionally, anything listed as a Daemonic Gift in a unit’s army list entry is also counted. Note that Daemonic Steeds and psychic powers generated from the main rule book are not affected by Dark Excommunication"

Oh man, I am absolutely digging this one here!

Jay_Daboyz wrote:
LVO FAQ is here

http://www.frontlinegaming.org/community/40k-faq/

That still doesn't answer the question.

"Cover and invulnerable saves may be taken against wounds cause by a weapon with the Graviton special rule."

Damaging a vehicle isn't the same as causing a wound.

Yes, but we already rules that you can take cover saves for vehicles, otherwise ignores cover wouldn't work on vehicles and unless you want to play against a meta of 2+ save cover Wave Serpents with no way to get around it, we have to assume wounds also applies to ap rolls.

So, in other words, yes, you get cover saves against it.


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Oh, and we have turned the store into a factory! LoS blocking terrain just being pumped out rapid fire!

 Reecius wrote:
Yes, but we already rules that you can take cover saves for vehicles, otherwise ignores cover wouldn't work on vehicles and unless you want to play against a meta of 2+ save cover Wave Serpents with no way to get around it, we have to assume wounds also applies to ap rolls.

So, in other words, yes, you get cover saves against it.


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Oh, and we have turned the store into a factory! LoS blocking terrain just being pumped out rapid fire!

Ok good I am glad that's cleared up then like I said I prefer the least powerful interpretation.

Hmmm... Did you take my advice and leave the beer in the mini-kegs this time!?

 OverwatchCNC wrote:
Hmmm... Did you take my advice and leave the beer in the mini-kegs this time!?

12 ounce can more or less equals a drop pod.

Mini-keg would be .... a titan of some kind? Stompa?

Yeah, right, Overwatch, " like I said I prefer the least powerful interpretation ", my foot.

I have some suggestions for beerhammer.

#1 move it to Saturday night next year. Players that go 3 and 0 on Friday night have to chose between beerhammer or playing games 4 and 5 rested and not hungover. Moving it up 1 day means 8 people still have a chance to win instead of 32.

#2 Donation beers. They go into a common pool and are randomly distributed on top of whatever swill is provided..

 Brothererekose wrote:

 OverwatchCNC wrote:
Hmmm... Did you take my advice and leave the beer in the mini-kegs this time!?

12 ounce can more or less equals a drop pod.

Mini-keg would be .... a titan of some kind? Stompa?

Yeah, right, Overwatch, " like I said I prefer the least powerful interpretation ", my foot.

Shhhhh... I only go for the most powerful interpretation when I play you.

Also I am referencing two BAOs ago when the middle of the table, on several tables, were Heineken Mini kegs painted with black and yellow chevrons to look like large industrial vats. It was great LoS blocking terrain but sadly they had no beer in them

Check out the LVO army up for raffle!

more pics!

Diggin' the plas-screen TVs on the inside of the ADL. It would figure that Fire Warriors would be watching Greater Good propaganda during a battle. Either that or Inter-Species soccer.

Man... I'm going to have to hit the gambling tables to get some fire powah to win that!

 whembly wrote:


Man... I'm going to have to hit the gambling tables to get some fire powah to win that!

It's Vegas. I plan to buy one ticket. And win.

Hmm, it's Taudar. You should include a jock strap & cup, in matching colors, to absorb the inevitable crotch-punches that accompany such an army.

Ahaha, the prices you pay. It'll be the win that keeps on giving.

Does anybody know if theres an opportunity in LV to play MTG on the Sunday ? I don't have a partner for the doubles tournament and I *think* its Born of the Gods release weekend, so if there was an opportunity to crack open a few packs I would be into that.

Two things.
Where is the Dinner for Saturday Night
Who wants to meet me at the Sterling Brunch sunday morning?

There will be open tables on Sunday as the majority of 40K players will be done, so, the tables will be open for gaming!

@hotsauceman1

I will email everyone the restaurant for dinner tomorrow!

Hey everyone, as a last head's up, we are allowing Nids to use either the Old or New book. They just have to notate on their army list which they are choosing to use.

Don't forget your Con Badges!

 Reecius wrote:
Hey everyone, as a last head's up, we are allowing Nids to use either the Old or New book. They just have to notate on their army list which they are choosing to use.

Don't forget your Con Badges!

And you're not collecting lists? Somebody out there is 100% going to switch midstream if this isn't policed.

 Reecius wrote:
Hey everyone, as a last head's up, we are allowing Nids to use either the Old or New book. They just have to notate on their army list which they are choosing to use.

Don't forget your Con Badges!

WOW! That is a terrible decision. Catering to nids and the tournament hasn't begun. Anyone want to run previous editions of their codex? I know I do.

 Reecius wrote:
Hey everyone, as a last head's up, we are allowing Nids to use either the Old or New book. They just have to notate on their army list which they are choosing to use.

Don't forget your Con Badges!

It is time to move on and forget the old book. This is a bad idea.

Also we need to see what the new book can do in a tournament setting before we really know how bad it is. It might do well, but now we have no way of knowing.

I thought that was also the point of you having the "Best of that Army" prize so even if you have a bad codex, you do the best with it and you still win something.

What is the usual Tournament approach when it comes to a Codex being released within a month of the event?

I have seen it 2 different ways. Allow only the current codex or if it was released within 30 days using the old. To allow both is absurd.

 Eldarain wrote:
What is the usual Tournament approach when it comes to a Codex being released within a month of the event?

In the past there was normally a 30 day grace period before the new codex is used. This was GWs policy and it was adopted by most GTs. In the last few years since GW has pulled out of tournaments it has been up to each TOs. These days there is usually not a grace period with new codexs. Adepticon is one of the exceptions who still sticks to the 30 days. Frontline Gaming events are normally early adopters and they generally do not have a grace period.

Never has anyone had an option of which 2 codexs to use.

I have to agree with everyone, you cant have your cake and eat it too. Allowing the old codex is just wrong and gives extra options to nid players, while others have to work within the rules.

I'm ok with this move. I think probably the attendance of Tyranid players have drastically declined with the new book coming out. Also, with only about 1 months time to go before the tournament, I don't think many tyranid players can fully build and paint the NEW army that they wanted to bring. I know I wasn't able to.

As it's only been 1 month, I think this move was necessary in order to incentivize the tyranid players to come out. Otherwise, bugs will be a dying breed in tournament play, with only the most hardcore of players breaking out their bugs.

Or would people prefer that Tyranid players drop their beloved armies and instead, pick up armies like Tau, Eldar and Necrons to the LVO?

I am for nids. I am not for people being able to play 5th and 6th edition rules.

Besides, without nids I have nothing to kill that makes an enjoyable squishing sound.

 jy2 wrote:
I'm ok with this move. I think probably the attendance of Tyranid players have drastically declined with the new book coming out. Also, with only about 1 months time to go before the tournament, I don't think many tyranid players can fully build and paint the NEW army that they wanted to bring. I know I wasn't able to.

As it's only been 1 month, I think this move was necessary in order to incentivize the tyranid players to come out. Otherwise, bugs will be a dying breed in tournament play, with only the most hardcore of players breaking out their bugs.

Or would people prefer that Tyranid players drop their beloved armies and instead, pick up armies like Tau, Eldar and Necrons to the LVO?

*Raises Hand* Then why are Lords of war and Escalation not allowed? One of the main things is that people wouldnt have time to prepare for it.

This doesn't bother me.

Just make sure that you let your opponent know before hand...

Let's have fun y'all!!!

If Nid player attendance was all of a sudden in jeopardy, then why not say "Old book only"? This move creates a huge potential for chicanery.

Here are some stats for you guys who think that the old codex is alive and kicking:

Da Boyz GT 22-Nov 120 Players 4 Tyranids 3.3% Nids
11th Co GT 11-Nov 86 Players 6 Tyranids 6.9% Nids
Feast of Blades 15-Oct 100 Players 4 Tyranids 4% Nids
Nova Open 30-Sep 223 Players 7 Tyranids 3.1% Nids

I do not think that the new codex is keeping anyone away since no one was playing it before. Also if you think the old codex can stand up to Tau and Eldar and make a difference in the standings you are wrong.

Here are the highest placing Tyranid Armies:

Da Boyz GT 59th
11th Co GT 23rd
Feast of Blades 49th
Nova Open 34th 2nd was 80th

No tyranid player even got close to the top tables so if anyone thinks that switching to to the old codex means that they can compete, you are wrong.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:

 jy2 wrote:
I'm ok with this move. I think probably the attendance of Tyranid players have drastically declined with the new book coming out. Also, with only about 1 months time to go before the tournament, I don't think many tyranid players can fully build and paint the NEW army that they wanted to bring. I know I wasn't able to.

As it's only been 1 month, I think this move was necessary in order to incentivize the tyranid players to come out. Otherwise, bugs will be a dying breed in tournament play, with only the most hardcore of players breaking out their bugs.

Or would people prefer that Tyranid players drop their beloved armies and instead, pick up armies like Tau, Eldar and Necrons to the LVO?

*Raises Hand* Then why are Lords of war and Escalation not allowed? One of the main things is that people wouldnt have time to prepare for it.

Allowing either versions of nids won't even make a splash in the tournament. But allowing Stronghold and Escalation would rock the tournament meta pretty drastically. It'll become an arms races of the have's and the have-not's. Have fun, Tau players, trying to survive against the might of Strength D. With nids, it's like changing out the hubcabs of a car. With Escalation+Strongholds, it's more like changing out the entire engine. Good luck with doing that and not alienating the majority of the players out there.

 tomjoad wrote:
If Nid player attendance was all of a sudden in jeopardy, then why not say "Old book only"? This move creates a huge potential for chicanery.

I really don't see how. The meta has changed drastically between the 2 codices. If you see more than 1 tervigon in the list, the Doom or the Swarmlord, you know its the old book. If you see multiple mawlocs, t-fexes, tyranid flyers, carnifexes and any of the new units, you know its the new book. It's very easy to differentiate army builds from the 2 editions. With the exception of dual flyrants, people are going to be running drastically different lists between the 2 editions.

As to why not say "old book only", basically the guys at Frontline put their foot in their mouth. Basically, they spoke too soon, announcing that it was only going to be the new Tyranids at the LVO before the codex actually came out. Then the codex came out and they immediately regretted it. This is their way to make amends to the Tyranid community.

I have to agree with Blackmoor here(Shocking I know)
But to give the Tyranid Players more a breath of options is wrong. You said in one of your podcasts Reece "We probably will allow the new nid codex, the players who run codexes are ontop of the rules right away. It doesnt matter for those who dont, they might get shocked 2months to a year"
But now you are saying they are not prepared?

BTW, LVO is not the only tournament that has done this. I believe TSHFT just last week (or maybe 2 weeks ago) allowed both the old and the new bugs in their tournament. Other tournaments have done this as well with codices that were just released before the tournament.

As for GW's policies, I say screw them. Why would you want to follow the policies of a company who is doing NOTHING to help out the tournament meta? As a matter of fact, GW is doing just the opposite and making it harder for TO's to run their tournaments instead. GW doesn't give 2 cents about about competitive gaming. Why the hell are people still looking towards them as a standard to follow?





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 Blackmoor wrote:
Here are some stats for you guys who think that the old codex is alive and kicking:

Da Boyz GT 22-Nov 120 Players 4 Tyranids 3.3% Nids
11th Co GT 11-Nov 86 Players 6 Tyranids 6.9% Nids
Feast of Blades 15-Oct 100 Players 4 Tyranids 4% Nids
Nova Open 30-Sep 223 Players 7 Tyranids 3.1% Nids

I do not think that the new codex is keeping anyone away since no one was playing it before. Also if you think the old codex can stand up to Tau and Eldar and make a difference in the standings you are wrong.

Here are the highest placing Tyranid Armies:

Da Boyz GT 59th
11th Co GT 23rd
Feast of Blades 49th
Nova Open 34th 2nd was 80th

No tyranid player even got close to the top tables so if anyone thinks that switching to to the old codex means that they can compete, you are wrong.

Hey! I made it to the top tables and ended up 9th with my bugs in last year's Bay Area Open!

LOL, you guys are funny.

TSHFT in Seattle just did exactly this last week and the world didn't explode.

You have to mark your list as old or new and show it to your opponent. Anyone that registers as a Nid player will be instructed this at the event just to be double sure. If you play a Nid player, just ask which book he is using. We all know the old book, some folks don't know the new book. A lot of people aren't prepared to use the new book yet, they don't have models painted.

No one is going to switch midstream as there is no reason to, the new book isn't as good as the old one. You'll see if you are playing the old or new book in the pairings too.

So once all the wet hens stop their clucking, and realize there are all of 3 Nid players at the tournament, all will be well =) Thank them for not being yet another Tau and/or Eldar player!

 jy2 wrote:

 Blackmoor wrote:
Here are some stats for you guys who think that the old codex is alive and kicking:

Da Boyz GT 22-Nov 120 Players 4 Tyranids 3.3% Nids
11th Co GT 11-Nov 86 Players 6 Tyranids 6.9% Nids
Feast of Blades 15-Oct 100 Players 4 Tyranids 4% Nids
Nova Open 30-Sep 223 Players 7 Tyranids 3.1% Nids

I do not think that the new codex is keeping anyone away since no one was playing it before. Also if you think the old codex can stand up to Tau and Eldar and make a difference in the standings you are wrong.

Here are the highest placing Tyranid Armies:

Da Boyz GT 59th
11th Co GT 23rd
Feast of Blades 49th
Nova Open 34th 2nd was 80th

No tyranid player even got close to the top tables so if anyone thinks that switching to to the old codex means that they can compete, you are wrong.

Hey! I made it to the top tables and ended up 9th with my bugs in last year's Bay Area Open!

Yeah you did!

But that was before Demons, Tau, Eldar, Space Marine codexes. I am sure that those did not have any impact on Tyranid placement.

 Blackmoor wrote:

 jy2 wrote:

 Blackmoor wrote:
Here are some stats for you guys who think that the old codex is alive and kicking:

Da Boyz GT 22-Nov 120 Players 4 Tyranids 3.3% Nids
11th Co GT 11-Nov 86 Players 6 Tyranids 6.9% Nids
Feast of Blades 15-Oct 100 Players 4 Tyranids 4% Nids
Nova Open 30-Sep 223 Players 7 Tyranids 3.1% Nids

I do not think that the new codex is keeping anyone away since no one was playing it before. Also if you think the old codex can stand up to Tau and Eldar and make a difference in the standings you are wrong.

Here are the highest placing Tyranid Armies:

Da Boyz GT 59th
11th Co GT 23rd
Feast of Blades 49th
Nova Open 34th 2nd was 80th

No tyranid player even got close to the top tables so if anyone thinks that switching to to the old codex means that they can compete, you are wrong.

Hey! I made it to the top tables and ended up 9th with my bugs in last year's Bay Area Open!

Yeah you did!

But that was before Demons, Tau, Eldar, Space Marine codexes. I am sure that those did not have any impact on Tyranid placement.

Lol. They did have the old flamer/screamer-spam daemons as well as more helturkeys than probably all the xenos codices combined!

I have a question about the location of the Saturday night dinner.

The Hash House A Go Go has 3 locations in Las Vegas (Soon to be 4). Will it be at the one in the Quad Hotel since that one is only a couple of blocks away and within walking distance?

Locations:
http://www.hashhouseagogo.com/location/

Yes, the one closest to where we will be, about a block away, thanks for clarifying that. It is the Quad Location.

Wait, there are enough Tyranid players coming to the LVO for this to matter?

Jy2 excepted of course

Jy2 isn't bringing Nids =P

The recent tournament at Warhammer World had all of ZERO new Nid players, lol.

We'd like at least some!

Plus, a number of Nid players have reached out to me and said they aren't ready to play the new book due to not being familiar with it, not having models ready, etc.

It really, really isn't a big deal. At all.

How many players plan to bring Tyranids?

Btw Nidz took fifth place at WGC last year.

 Reecius wrote:
Jy2 isn't bringing Nids =P

The recent tournament at Warhammer World had all of ZERO new Nid players, lol.

We'd like at least some!

Plus, a number of Nid players have reached out to me and said they aren't ready to play the new book due to not being familiar with it, not having models ready, etc.

It really, really isn't a big deal. At all.

I can see what you're trying to say but it might be better if you find a different way to express yourself here. Thanks

Reds8n

 OverwatchCNC wrote:
Wait, there are enough Tyranid players coming to the LVO for this to matter?

Jy2 excepted of course

Sorry, my bugs aren't ready for Prime-time yet. They're going to sit this one out.

Maybe in the next tournament.

 Dozer Blades wrote:
How many players plan to bring Tyranids?

Btw Nidz took fifth place at WGC last year.

WGC results:

1st place: Necrons
2nd place: Demons
3rd place: IG
4th place: Demons

WGC was before Tau and Eldar domination. If you go back far enough, yes Tyranids did ok.

Good point Blackmoor .

I'm bringing new nids.

Good on ya, Coop!

@Thread

Guys, the overall state of the Meta, or testing the new Nids (or any new army) isn't the point of the LVO.

The point of the LVO is to provide a fun gaming convention for the people paying money to come.

The new Nids came out at an awkward time for our event. Not everyone dives right in to a new codex the way we do. Some folks do and are excited to paly the new stuff like LaJollaGard, some don't.

I have actually had a number of veteran Nid players, like 10 years+, ready to sell their armies and move on to Warmahordes or DzC they're so bummed out about the new book.

So, in the sake of fairness and providing a FUN environment for the greatest number of people, we're letting Nid player choose to use the new or old book. I will bet money it will be such a minor deal that hardly anyone notices. I will be shocked if we even break double digit numbers for Nids.

And so what if the old books does well? It will be the last hurrah for the Ol' Bugs if so, and good on em. It'd be no different than if IG come out before Adepticon but after their cutoff date and someone with the old book wins.

Well said, Reecius.

Best of luck at your convention!

A question about the LVO/BAO Crusade mission. Since you always have 3 objectives and you place them after you choose deployment zones, doesn't that give a huge advantage to the person who wins the dice roll for table sides?

I know that you have it so that you place the objectives outside of your deployment zone, but that is meaningless. What always happens (and I mean always) is that 2 objectives get placed right on the deployment zone line right in front of the first players castle. The other player who lost the dice roll for sides only gets to place one objective on his deployment zone line. That means that one player will not have to move and they get 2 objectives, and the other player only gets one. That means that one player has to cross 24" of board just to contest that mission, and the other has to do nothing but sit there and shoot the crap out of his opponent to win.

Does that seem fair?

So, do you know who can cross the board and contest those objectives? Seer Councils and Screamer Stars, the 2 armies you want to discourage, you are encouraging.

Bravo to Reece and co for making the best calls possible in a crazy turbulent environment.

I am bummed I will not be making it ... Tony and I bandied it about for some time, but it's just coming amidst too much stuff for me (also, I didn't know about being able to play old nids till just now).

Allan - maybe not best to be carping on missions at the 11th hour ... at this point learn 'em, get ready best you can for 'em, and go kick ass and have a blast - 256'ers are a rare breed of GT, and it's exciting to have another one going on this year ...

Can't wait to see the results and outcomes!

Old Nids?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING! I need to speak to my special friend!

MVBrandt wrote:


Allan - maybe not best to be carping on missions at the 11th hour ... at this point learn 'em, get ready best you can for 'em, and go kick ass and have a blast - 256'ers are a rare breed of GT, and it's exciting to have another one going on this year ...

Carping eh?

I just learned about this problem and it has a simple solution: Place objectives before the roll for table sides.

And yes, I know what the book says to do, but that is horrible for tournaments.

@Blackmoor
Tbh that is actually what I normally do. Place objectives before choosing sides/it normally comes out even distribution of some sort as if someone does put 2 on one side and doesnt win that side well.... that was ur gamble and it didn't pay off.

On the thing of objectives, We bring our own for the Tournament correct? And for the scouring how do we mark them(I noticed 2 large bases and 3 regular bases are required for them

@Mike

Thanks, bud! I know you guys wanted to come but no worries. Maybe next year! Frankie and I will be at NOVA this year though, along with some of the crew for sure baring some act of god.

@Blackmoor

You sure are taking this seriously for someone that said they wasn't taking the event seriously, lol!

Our system is EXTENSIVELY play-tested. Like, hundreds of practice games. We find the system works very fairly due to forcing players to distribute objectives out of their deployment zones.

If you lose a game because of that, specific instance in that, specific mission, i will buy you a beer, bud!

@Kronk

Thanks!

@Hot Sizzle

Yes, you bring the objectives and you can number your Scouring Objectives as 1,2,3. We don't score them the way the book does. Just be sure you do not mark them in a way so that you can tell which is which as it could appear as if you are trying to cheat to your opponent.

I was just going to put masking tape on the bottom and writ on them.
Im so excited. This may sound stupid. but im getting on the Monorail at ballys the first thing I do to see the whole strip.

I am taking the new nids, so i can't take it to seriously

 Blackmoor wrote:
I am taking the new nids, so i can't take it to seriously

Oh oh oh, does that mean I should call you out for a round one grudge match!!

Just kidding, last time I played you round 1 at a GE Pasadena RT with my brand new fully painted Cron Airforce you beat me and kept me from taking the top spot by 5 points or some such bull

 OverwatchCNC wrote:

 Blackmoor wrote:
I am taking the new nids, so i can't take it to seriously

Oh oh oh, does that mean I should call you out for a round one grudge match!!

Just kidding, last time I played you round 1 at a GE Pasadena RT with my brand new fully painted Cron Airforce you beat me and kept me from taking the top spot by 5 points or some such bull

If you want to play a practice/Tune up game I am available.

 whitedragon wrote:
Old Nids?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING! I need to speak to my special friend!

Uh oh...

Monster bash coming?

I am taking New Nids too!! It's going to be a New Nid Party!!!

Oh boy... This is going to be an interesting tournament. I'm excited to see all the nid players though.

Guys....don't tempt me. Something's bugging me here.

@JY2 - are you BROODing over the lack of DOOM you can REAP in the new Dex?

 Dugg wrote:
I am taking New Nids too!! It's going to be a New Nid Party!!!

Good luck with your back old timer!

I also know that you are not taking them because they do not have any forge world.

Oh Blackmore you are so silly. Did my Orks have ForgeWorld (units) in them? Your memory seems to be slipping old timee Gamer. :p

My broken back will be just fine. I will be running all barrage and Flyers. I will have the smallest model count bug list there.

Don't you worry Blackmoor! I will be bringing Forgeworld models in my list. Just for you.

I normally do not have back problems, but after 5 games with the bugs this weekend it started to make it's displeasure felt.

Woo, malanthropes? I'd like to see those actually be effective...

Or... Screamer-killers?

All you oldtimers with back problems, Get out of the way and let the youngbloods through.

Re: The Hash House A Go Go

3-words: Fried Chicken Benedict

After we've purchased the Con badge to we pick it up at Bally's during registration or do we have to print something out?

Pick it up at registration.

Hey, did you guys ever post what the prizes are for these events? Not that you need more of a reason to attend than the fact that it's in Vegas but I was wondering.

I heard the prizes are free buffets. I'm good with that, I am a fat kid at heart.

Haha, no free buffets but, we have custom trophies for each of the "Best Of" awards for Fantasy, 40K and Warmahordes!

We also have custom trophies for placings, as well, as in best General, etc.

Lot's of goodies for various prizes, raffle prizes, all kinds of cool stuff!

The 40K Championships Grand Prize is legit! We are keeping it secret for now, though =)

 Reecius wrote:
Haha, no free buffets but, we have custom trophies for each of the "Best Of" awards for Fantasy, 40K and Warmahordes!

We also have custom trophies for placings, as well, as in best General, etc.

Lot's of goodies for various prizes, raffle prizes, all kinds of cool stuff!

The 40K Championships Grand Prize is legit! We are keeping it secret for now, though =)

Naked Lap Dance from Reecius and/or Frankie?

Gross... Just puked in my mouth !

Enough. Move on.

nickthewise wrote:
Re: The Hash House A Go Go

3-words: Fried Chicken Benedict

I concur with this statement! Hash House is friggin dope

No naked dances from me, lol, but I can't speak for Frankie =P

@djphranq

Yeah, I think we made the right call. MUCH cheaper, too.

Any nid player who makes the Sunday finals, with the New book, I will buy that 40ker a drink. **

And a good one, like a whiskey (Glenlivet). Not one of the stray cans of PBR that might still be floating around, nor a casino-watered down bev that gets schlepped to Blackjack tables.

Jy2 - you do drink scotch, right?
Blackmoor, you seem like a Cape Cod-vodka, kinda guy.
Cooper, what's your poison?

**
Hit me up on Saturday night, as I don't imagine you'd want Long Island Iced Teas or whiskey on ya when you're trying to win a GT

I will have a Long Island Ice Tea
ALso, I just checked the Hash House's menu. Jesus, Those sound good. I really want some of the crab.

demonator76 wrote:
I heard the prizes are free buffets. I'm good with that, I am a fat kid at heart.

I'm a fat kid at life

This is Brian Poole from the Wrecking Crew. I was in an accident and that $500 deductible is rearing it's ugly head. So I cancelled my trip to LVO since I didn't have a plane ticket yet and that was looking like $400. Anybody want to pick up my con badge and 40k Championship ticket for $70?

Edit - If you already have a con badge I will sell the ticket for $50. Please PM me if you are interested in either or both.

Here's some tips for the LVO and the 40K champs player packet if you want to print your out before coming or just look it over.

http://www.frontlinegaming.org/2014/01/29/what-you-should-bring-to-the-lvo/

Im still confused about your missions. There are a total of ten points. SO I can get this clear lets take scenario 2.
Lets say for purge the alien I kill 6 to his 3, The means I get 3 points for winning Purge the Alien, but he has more in the Objectives, meaning he got 4 pts. But I have all the other 3 bonus to his none. leaving me with 6 for the scenario. You dont count the objectives nor the total killed? Just the set 10 points?

Think of them like 2 different games being played at once. It is exactly like you said in your example, you'd get 6, he'd get 4. If you both had warlord and linebreaker, but you had first blood, you'd tie 6-6.

Um,

http://www.frontlinegaming.org/community/40k-faq/


Rerolling Saves A save of any type (invulnerable, armor, cover, etc.) that is a 2+ that can be rerolled, is failed on the second roll of a 4+ instead of a 2+.

- See more at: http://www.frontlinegaming.org/community/40k-faq/#sthash.AFIwXzn4.dpuf

Just pointing it out, sorry Reece. Like you need something else that you're going to order Frankie to go fix.

@Hot Sizzle

Dude_I_Suck explained it correctly.

@Brothererekose

Thanks, I fixed the wording. Haha, even though the math works out the same, that definitely wasn't the best way to word it. Thanks for pointing that out!

For the GT can i ally sentinels of terra, with codex space marine imperial fists?, also is there a diagram of the typical terrain layout for the tournament such as los blockers ruins ect... , I want to make sure im not playing on a firing range, and that i can hide behind some terrain.

@Fists

Yes, Marines can ally with Marines per their book.

No diagrams of terrain, sorry, we have such a wide variety of types of terrain that a diagram wouldn't do much good, honestly. And having a diagram wouldn't fix anything if it were a shooting range, anyway =P

The layout we are going for with each table is 2, large, LoS blocking pieces of terrain on each table, roughly 4 pieces of area terrain, and small pieces of varying types of terrain to fill gaps and close firing lanes.

We've been working damn near around the clock on terrain, i think folks will be very pleased when they see the tables =)

Can anyone tell me what the points for Beer Hammer is?

Vitamin X wrote:
Can anyone tell me what the points for Beer Hammer is?

http://www.frontlinegaming.org/las-vegas-open/las-vegas-open-beerhammer/

This wasn't helpful?


Oh, BTW:
I'd like to recommend a Turn 3 to Turn 4, "Seventh Inning Stretch" convention of sitting down for 5 minutes, swilling that beer. Kibbitsing about non-40k things (bitch about congress!) and then move on to Turn 4 and those objectives!

I will help him out:

Allowed Armies/Rules Judgements/Etc.:
Same armies as the Warhammer 40k Championships
- See more at: http://www.frontlinegaming.org/las-vegas-open/las-vegas-open-beerhammer/#sthash.iIMnYTLP.dpuf

So i know table layout was already asked, but I am wondering what is extra space real estate looking like? Will i have room for setting down a display board? Just asking if it is even worth me bringing my display board(standard 2' * 2'). Thanks.

demonator76 wrote:
So i know table layout was already asked, but I am wondering what is extra space real estate looking like? Will i have room for setting down a display board? Just asking if it is even worth me bringing my display board(standard 2' * 2'). Thanks.

The link above *did* provide a link to a "Pro Tip section", which is recommendations on attending tourneys (Allan's link goes to the same place as the one I provided ) . Can't find the 'Pro tip' thing now, though ...


There is a section, or there was, next to the "'Nid lists that don't suck" links that talked about the benefits and detractions of Display boards. One statement saying that with the tables being end to end, there'd be no room for display trays.

Personally, I say bring your board for the paint judging portion if your army is likely to garner a prize. Even though the DB is not on the list to score points, it should help, as I'm sure you well know.

http://www.frontlinegaming.org/las-vegas-open/las-vegas-open-warhammer-40k-championships/

Once they've scored your army, then on Saturday, I'd leave it in your hotel room or car for whichever easier transport option you have.

 Brothererekose wrote:

demonator76 wrote:
So i know table layout was already asked, but I am wondering what is extra space real estate looking like? Will i have room for setting down a display board? Just asking if it is even worth me bringing my display board(standard 2' * 2'). Thanks.

The link above *did* provide a link to a "Pro Tip section", which is recommendations on attending tourneys (Allan's link goes to the same place as the one I provided ) . Can't find it now, though ...


There is a section, or there was, next to the "'Nid lists that don't suck" links that talked about the benefits and detractions of Display boards. One statement saying that with the tables being end to end, there'd be no room for display trays.

Personally, I say bring your board for the paint judging portion of your army is likely to garner a prize. Even though the DB is not on the list to score points, it should help, as I'm sure you well know.

http://www.frontlinegaming.org/las-vegas-open/las-vegas-open-warhammer-40k-championships/

Once they've scored your army, then I'd leave it in your room or car for whichever easier transport option you have on Saturday.

Thanks. I guess i missed the tip section post.

Good luck everyone!

http://www.frontlinegaming.org/2014/01/29/what-you-should-bring-to-the-lvo/

That is the pro-tips section. There is no extra space on the tables, they are 6', butt to butt. You will have to put them under the gaming table.

Sorry you can't make it Oadius.

Almost there, getting pumped to see everyone! And really sick of making terrain t this point! lol!

I will be bringing my Magnetic carrying tray, It isnt pretty, but nothing falls off.
One more thing about Missions.
Ok, so lets say khan magically wins a Challenge against, IDK, Fateweaver. and i get 3 victory point because of the Warlord Trait, where does this apply?

READ YOUR PLAYER PACKET, HOT SIZZLE!!

lol, that question, directly, is answered in the packet! =P

All bonus points apply to the primary mission, only.

See you there, buddy!

 Reecius wrote:
http://www.frontlinegaming.org/2014/01/29/what-you-should-bring-to-the-lvo/

A subset of Murphy's Law:
When you want to provide a link to something, and you check on it, you can't find it.

 Reecius wrote:
http://www.frontlinegaming.org/2014/01/29/what-you-should-bring-to-the-lvo/
Almost there, getting pumped to see everyone! And really sick of making terrain t this point! lol!

Which means that you'll start putting in-jokes on the walls (graffiti) sticking with texture paints.

Maybe post a coulpe minutes of video showing the process? It'd give players an appreciative idea of the level of work that goes into such a big effort in terrain.
...
Huh, me-thinks that you might've already done that.

4 days of intense Studying I have to do for the classes I do have beforeand I have a test right after I come back too. But work hard play hard right?

Big shout out to Pzascal and Miho who came all the way from New Zealnd for the LVO! Great meeting you both, see you in Vegas in a few days!

Meanwhile in Europe folks are wondering how the LVO turned out...

Am I too early to be asking this?

Interested to know how any Tyranids - if present - faired.
What was the top 20 like?
Same old Tau and/or Eldar variants or any surprises we might ponder over?

The ruling on 2+ rerolled saves, how was that? Did it function as planned or did it inbalance the field in a diferent direction? Were there Daemons in the top 20 after this change?

Thanks for any replies.

Cilithan

It's this week so no results yet. Soon though...

Silly me, thought it was last weekend. I'll try some patience then...

Curious if there is anywhere we can buy super glue for us out of towners. I am pretty sure something is gonna break on the flight down.

Why not bring some?

If he just has carry-on bags, then he probably can't.

 kronk wrote:
If he just has carry-on bags, then he probably can't.

You can - put it in your liquids bag. I brought a bottle of glue to the ETC last year this way, only doing carry-on luggage. I'd recommend bagging it separately inside of your liquids bag as well, just in case of course.

The scenic table to the Warmachine events is all finished up! You can see more pics and WIP at http://privateerpressforums.com/showthread.php?112523-Tyson-s-Warmahordes-painting-blog/page6
Hope to see some of you guys there!

That is amazing!

So if anyone wants my ticket for the 40k doubles I can't do it anymore. My buddy has a funeral to go to. Also his 40k champ tourney ticket is available too.

Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh, snap!!!

Check this bad boy out! The 40K Grand Champion will have his or her name on a plaque on this trophy and have earned glory, loot and bragging rights!

Sweet trophy!!!

 Menelker wrote:
The scenic table to the Warmachine events is all finished up! You can see more pics and WIP at http://privateerpressforums.com/showthread.php?112523-Tyson-s-Warmahordes-painting-blog/page6
Hope to see some of you guys there!

WoW!!!

So nice that I just had to quote it again so that everyone could see it a 2nd time.

Yeah, Tyson (Menelker) our Warmahordes TO is an awesome artist. He does some amazing work.

So what day is everyone seeing Brittney Spears?

Why? Does she have a concert that weekend....or will she be in the LVO as well?

Another suggestion for food if you don't mind a little walking is Planet Hollywood. It is the next property over from Paris and there is a Mall with quite a few places to eat.

Maybe this has been answered elsewhere, but I can't find it; how late is registration open til on Thursday evening?

We'll be there until 8pm or so. Sorry, typo and said 11pm.

Brit Brit is playing Tyranids.

For those attending the LVO, I'm in a bit of a bind. What I want is to BORROW 4 Devastator Grav Centurions that are either painted or I can paint myself. Due to the narrow time range I have to work with, I'm looking at meeting someone in the Seattle region or at the LVO (in which case the Cents would have to be already painted).

I am going to the LVO this weekend, and I ordered these models back in December and they haven't come in yet. I would rather avoid spending ~$150 on models that I already own. Thus, I'm willing to work out whatever trade/loan would make you feel comfortable, as long as it's reasonably short of the cost of just buying the models myself.

i may be able to help with those centurions, check your PM.

Hi, quick question: when is the latest you can register for the Doubles Tournament on Sunday ? I might play with a buddy but theres also a reasonable chance I'll head out drinking after the 40k tournament and be in no shape for another 3 games of 40k on Sunday. Will we be able to register Sunday morning ? Or Saturday evening ? Is it likely this event will sell out ? Thanks!